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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
op (no name)
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i SEE enough to know what bots or characters are about.

i\'m using new tactics now with bots and what i SEE now is much more than before

San Francisco library system is banned so i\'m not sure i\'ll bother continually getting new proxy servers

constant games with our attempt to get a used computer. magically they cost almost as much as some new computers...those we see advertised on CL

games continued being played but we\'re not playing anymore.

new tactics have begun and very enlightening to observe bots in action.
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since i have time at a free place to internet i'm taking advantage.

i go to park here everyday and i observe the character bullshit. children paraded in such a fashion as to make it known to my companion and i. contrived shit ad nauseum. the bots are such bad actors it is so fake their conversations that it isn't believable in the least.

yesterday i talked to those i'm living with. artificial synchronicities galore. young guy 25 who is professional but i saw the set up yesterday. he was sitting at home and offered me wine. i politely refused. i played along. his attempts with pathetic at best and i ended up walking away not bothering even with social pleasantries.

woman who "owns" house and son come in. she goes on about shadow aspects and letting go and surrendering...more contrived nonsense and another attempt to manipulate me...

there seem to be more bots here...most of the population...always talking loud around us with their dumb scripting designed somehow to influence us to no avail...

i cannot stand listening to the bots anymore...tactics i've used lately have shown this force behind every character...they'd have to be 1) virtual 2) alien/archons or 3) scripted characters by some force

it's almost as if they know what is going on because, like i said, everything is very contrived and transparent. it's almost as if the force is simplistic and mechanical and not very bright in how it scripts...

we get no responses from CL ads for old computers...only bots that want over $100 for computers that are 10+ years old...at this point we don't care if we get another computer...i have no attachment to it..but my companion is bored

i still feel nothing...neither positive or negative...my companion bitches and i just observe...event and character games and i feel nothing...it's just so stupid all of it
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it's almost as if they know what is going on because, like i said, everything is very contrived and transparent.
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maybe on some level they do know what's going on, but they're just not aware of it at a conscious level

and/or maybe because you can SEE what they don't, you end up projecting your level of awareness onto them, giving them more credit than they deserve
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bots say the darndest things

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perhaps

maybe on some level they do know what's going on, but they're just not aware of it at a conscious level

and/or maybe because you can SEE what they don't, you end up projecting your level of awareness onto them, giving them more credit than they deserve
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it's almost as if they know what is going on because, like i said, everything is very contrived and transparent.
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maybe on some level they do know what's going on, but they're just not aware of it at a conscious level

and/or maybe because you can SEE what they don't, you end up projecting your level of awareness onto them, giving them more credit than they deserve
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i have access again to a computer terminal for free...

what you say has much validity as well as EnyeL's stuff regarding a Creator/Demiurge/Force that scripts the body, mind and soul which is NOT our True State and that my Spirit part is fighting to take over from this Creator/Demiurge/Force

that would explain why we're getting games when trying to buy an old labtop as well as trying to get other things.

perhaps the Spirit part is trying to separate me further from any attachments (however small)..including internet..

my companion and i don't get excited by anything anymore...i brought him to Lombard Street and to the Telegraph Tower (Coit Tower?) in San Francisco which is a tourist spot and he wasn't really thrilled with it

we seem to derive pleasure only briefly from certain limited foods and coffee...

for the rest my companion is bored...i'm neither here nor there with any of it...neither sad or happy...neither positive or negative...neither here or there..

i bolded your post because it is perhaps as valuable as EnyeL's posting

perhaps indeed there is a Creator of this world that uses my Spirit part to feed this false world and that scripts the False Self/Body/Mind/Soul

perhaps i am like Mr Murdoch in Dark City who is gaining ability at taking over the scripting from this Force.

i continue taking transit around San Francisco everyday and walking around observing...i sit in parks and observe also and really our only short-term semi-pleasure is eating what few foods we can swallow...
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like you said before OP, it can almost seem as if the bots have free will, and if you asked them they'd be sure they did have it and laugh at the thought that they might not (perhaps out of fear or it being too alien a concept), as they don't see the scripting, but when you do see the scripting you realize the bots must have no idea what is driving them and why they act and speak as they do
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
The Mind controls the illusion.

[link to hypnoticstatekemilasmatrix.wordpress.com]
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07/24/2013 03:43 AM
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I'm a bit late to this thread.

The answer is that YOU control the illusion, your goal is to live your highest joy. You get closer to this joy by dropping the baggage that doesn't belong to you. Lighten up to become enlightened.

Listen to Bashar for more info.
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I'm a bit late to this thread.

The answer is that YOU control the illusion, your goal is to live your highest joy. You get closer to this joy by dropping the baggage that doesn't belong to you. Lighten up to become enlightened.

Listen to Bashar for more info.
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Or realize, that there are no goals. There is only what you enjoy doing without getting emotionally involved. Or reacting to your thoughts and considerations(ego).

So I guess that this is but another way of saying, live out your dreams and joys. However, without the emotions, you might find that what you enjoy changes.

Your way of putting it, just reads as a has to guide. :)
For an interesting twist on life, try reading this:

[link to illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com]
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games games games

we get alot of games with the cell phone. people call. we call back and they never return calls. if we turn on the cell to wait for call the Force turns our phone off

yesterday SMS message from somebody sent to us 6 hours later regarding computer. i attempted to send SMS and \"IT\" kept turning off our phone. then we called the person and they said the computer was sold.

today we took MUNI. we looked on screen and it said Muni \"M\" was coming next. we looked again and it disappeared and \"L\" suddenly was coming.

eventually we saw the MUNI \"M\"..we are certain of it...we got on and the surroundings looked strange...we were on MUNI \"K\"...the fucker Force scripted it changing from \"M\" to \"K\"

we had to get off and wait to get on again...well guess what..we had to wait 1/2 hour for MUNI \"K\" inbound...it is supposed to come every 10 minutes during rush hour

force played other games with characters at home and now it\'s busy here with characters in library

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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07/24/2013 12:46 PM
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The unspeakable.
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And what is that pray tell.
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Don't know.
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The archons
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it appears that many bots do KNOW what is going on...whether that is the case is a ???
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whose mind?

EnyeL\'s stuff seems most accurate. this Force imposes its own mind, body, soul and EGOic character role on you and you think its your own until you get like me and real eyes it isn\'t your True State

my head is empty of thoughts yet i get things scripted that appear synchronicities of things from the past or things i\'ve said or things i\'ve noticed but the key is they are ARTIFICIAL synchronicities and very contrived and transparent...

i thought nothing of being fucked with thru my cell phone yet all the games turning my cell phone off or other games

i thought nothing of MUNI games but yet suddenly it started today...

sorry but i\'m not buying into it being my creation

i believe i\'m capable though of taking over scripting from this Force
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Canada ,

i heard Bashar shit years ago and bought it hook, line and sinker UNTIL i woke up.

you are at a \"level\" where you cannot truly SEE what is going on.

once you truly SEE you real eyes that there is a FORCE scripting this world

the \"i create my reality\" stuff is pumped for a reason. what a perfect setup getting people to believe they create their realities...then they can endlessly blame themselves and be as the dog chasing its tail
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I'm a bit late to this thread.

The answer is that YOU control the illusion, your goal is to live your highest joy. You get closer to this joy by dropping the baggage that doesn't belong to you. Lighten up to become enlightened.

Listen to Bashar for more info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1382984


Or realize, that there are no goals. There is only what you enjoy doing without getting emotionally involved. Or reacting to your thoughts and considerations(ego).

So I guess that this is but another way of saying, live out your dreams and joys. However, without the emotions, you might find that what you enjoy changes.

Your way of putting it, just reads as a has to guide. :)
 Quoting: Shy Chap? Pot!


i have access to free computer again so i'll finish responding to posts.

yeah..once you're out of EGOic character role the emotional attachments mostly go bye bye so the idea of dreams and joys doesn't really apply anymore.

you're just sort of operating in this world not really feeling part of this world so words like joy or happy or sad don't apply

the Bashar stuff is for those buying into the belief bullshit....it fits right in there with the new age bulltinkle
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The unspeakable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373871


And what is that pray tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209

Don't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373871


The archons
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this is plausible. i was in the park today and some park worker told some mexican guy selling some deserts that he couldn't be in the children's park. the mexican worker said in Spanish that the woman "lacked a soul" lol

now my companion said maybe that was intended for me to hear (most likely) but perhaps the Mexican notices that some people are lacking something or have changed into something else

what comes to mind is "Invasion of Body Snatchers" movie from 1970s.

i give most credence to Enyel's stuff regarding a Demiurge/Creator that scripts the EGOic character role/body/mind/soul superimposed over the "Spirit Essence"...i might word it differently but Enyel's ideas are closest to my experience.

perhaps GLP banning EnyeL's link and the copy/paste i posted of EnyeL's was just a reverse psychology maneuver to get me going in that direction..who knows?

in my experience EnyeL's stuff resonates the most though can fit in with the idea of unformed thoughtforms called Archons.
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more games...blah blah blah

the Force tries to step up sophistication by using bots that are upgraded but i can SEE thru all of it anyways

my companion and i don't wanna buy a $300 computer new but we want one for under $60 that is used

everything on CL that is old is being sold for $100 or over which is laughable for old computers

even those that are reasonable who call we end up having the phone turn off and other games when we try to call or leave phone on...just like Adjustment Bureau movie

today the stuff with the MUNI was super weird and really obvious...

my companion also got offered a translation job today for $600

it's intentional scripting by this Force to make us chase something..

thing is i know if we would buy a computer for $300 then suddenly the translation job would go...the person would say they found somebody else or some other bullshit...those are the games that are played

now we're smarter and don't allow the manipulation. in other words we aren't buying into the bullshit

a used computer for under $60 can come to us...and fuck the $600 translation job...it's all strategic bullshit designed to get us chasing something or caring about money blah blah blah

mr. force is gonna need to get more sophisticated if it thinks it's gonna fool me with its bulltinkle

strange though at "level" i'm operating at most bots/characters seem like retards in the sense that they're so simplistic to both my companion and i...it's almost as if we left this world for 3 decades and were dumped back here....something happened while we were gone...when did people get so stupid?
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I can not say you are wrong OP, I have a philosophy. Allow the things that happen to you in life pass through like the breeze through the trees.

Don't fight it and look for the open doors.

If you can do that I believe you will see the path to a moderate amount of happiness...... However have no doubt, it is clear to me that suffering is a given..... happiness is not. Part of our task is to suffer with character and to not inflict suffering on others.

Also...... Do whatever you must to relieve yourself of guilt, for this above all things will you carry into the next life. Have absolutely no doubt that there is persistence after we pass from this physicality.
One Truth.... many realities
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Where I live is kundalinic shell's homeland what with the beach and the nightlife clubland bullshit

The kundalinic shell's have plenty to say, across the street, as you passing on the street, wherever

Which is about what it's about because most of them haven't anything to say, if they were saying it (if this was a real world)

But it's not them saying it, it's the greater Force bullshit coming through them

At best you'd call it a script, but if you attempt to break out the script the charcters just reinforce 'this is for the greater good' greater force bullshit vibe

The forced smiles and steely expressions wouldn't look good if this was a real world
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I can not say you are wrong OP, I have a philosophy. Allow the things that happen to you in life pass through like the breeze through the trees.

Don't fight it and look for the open doors.

If you can do that I believe you will see the path to a moderate amount of happiness...... However have no doubt, it is clear to me that suffering is a given..... happiness is not. Part of our task is to suffer with character and to not inflict suffering on others.

Also...... Do whatever you must to relieve yourself of guilt, for this above all things will you carry into the next life. Have absolutely no doubt that there is persistence after we pass from this physicality.
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happiness and suffering are words for characters or bots

the place i'm at now i cannot be happy or suffer. i feel nothing about any of it. neither here or there. neither this or that. it's all the same to me really.

guilt is for characters or bots. i feel no such thing.

i don't believe in next life or reincarnation or soul. i believe that is a lie of this Force/Demiurge

i don't fight it. i turn my back on its bullshit world.
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Where I live is kundalinic shell's homeland what with the beach and the nightlife clubland bullshit

The kundalinic shell's have plenty to say, across the street, as you passing on the street, wherever

Which is about what it's about because most of them haven't anything to say, if they were saying it (if this was a real world)

But it's not them saying it, it's the greater Force bullshit coming through them

At best you'd call it a script, but if you attempt to break out the script the charcters just reinforce 'this is for the greater good' greater force bullshit vibe

The forced smiles and steely expressions wouldn't look good if this was a real world
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yep

i know the shit that comes out of their mouths is the Force

lady yesterday on bus slowly comes in with her walker...talks loud about her limitations...blah blah blah...all intended to make us think we're vulnerable and limited.

i know i cannot get sick anymore. i'm not this body. it's all contrived bullshit from the moronic force who is beyond stupid

same with all the other dumb scripting..like i said the bots/characters all seem like retards or it's as though we left this world for 30 years and came back and now WTF?

everything is about talking loud around us or parading handicap or children or dogs or other bullshit in front of us

my companion wants to isolate in our room. i don't need to isolate because they have no affect on me. just more stupid b.s.

like i said the Force is simplistic and mechanical and the character scripting is bad "B movie".
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we get repeated scripting constantly. these people we know on John's Island SC keep calling us. they say they'll send us money and ask for our address. each time we give them our address they don't send anything. i've blocked them now on my cell phone

this is our existence in this world of turds. just endless games and bullshit ad nauseum. it doesn't affect us yet this dumb Force keeps repeating it

the people that say they'll send us money were like cartoon characters. she used to work for Jimmy Carter and she has a voice like Marge Simpson's smoking sisters. her husband is this funny looking buy from Brooklyn who is always going on about money and looks like he belongs on All In The Family with Archie Bunker. they are like these characters...virtual...

last time i saw her she said "tomorrow i'm going to the Moon"...

that's our weird existence

it was time to cut their arses off...i've allowed enough bullshit from them and other characters

what i'm doing now is just playing games with characters and acting myself....meaning i'm feeding them FALSE information to fuck with this Force. let's see where this goes
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more games...blah blah blah

the Force tries to step up sophistication by using bots that are upgraded but i can SEE thru all of it anyways

my companion and i don't wanna buy a $300 computer new but we want one for under $60 that is used

everything on CL that is old is being sold for $100 or over which is laughable for old computers

even those that are reasonable who call we end up having the phone turn off and other games when we try to call or leave phone on...just like Adjustment Bureau movie

today the stuff with the MUNI was super weird and really obvious...

my companion also got offered a translation job today for $600

it's intentional scripting by this Force to make us chase something..

thing is i know if we would buy a computer for $300 then suddenly the translation job would go...the person would say they found somebody else or some other bullshit...those are the games that are played

now we're smarter and don't allow the manipulation. in other words we aren't buying into the bullshit

a used computer for under $60 can come to us...and fuck the $600 translation job...it's all strategic bullshit designed to get us chasing something or caring about money blah blah blah

mr. force is gonna need to get more sophisticated if it thinks it's gonna fool me with its bulltinkle

strange though at "level" i'm operating at most bots/characters seem like retards in the sense that they're so simplistic to both my companion and i...it's almost as if we left this world for 3 decades and were dumped back here....something happened while we were gone...when did people get so stupid?
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how about i send u a laptop for free? its old but works ,has nobody offered any help yet? btw have u used or abused any drugs in your life? dont lie!
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we get repeated scripting constantly. these people we know on John's Island SC keep calling us. they say they'll send us money and ask for our address. each time we give them our address they don't send anything. i've blocked them now on my cell phone

this is our existence in this world of turds. just endless games and bullshit ad nauseum. it doesn't affect us yet this dumb Force keeps repeating it

the people that say they'll send us money were like cartoon characters. she used to work for Jimmy Carter and she has a voice like Marge Simpson's smoking sisters. her husband is this funny looking buy from Brooklyn who is always going on about money and looks like he belongs on All In The Family with Archie Bunker. they are like these characters...virtual...

last time i saw her she said "tomorrow i'm going to the Moon"...

that's our weird existence

it was time to cut their arses off...i've allowed enough bullshit from them and other characters

what i'm doing now is just playing games with characters and acting myself....meaning i'm feeding them FALSE information to fuck with this Force. let's see where this goes
 Quoting: OP (Retard Force) 633624

and no im not a bot lol i see wat ur sayin kinda...we would call them "props" when we were stoned mayb it is all an illusion ... wat i dont get is why u keep posting..just go sumwhere were u can fish and live off land avoid the bots and meditate or watever
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last time i saw her she said "tomorrow i'm going to the Moon"...
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my experience has nothing to do with drugs.

i have no attachments to anything in this world including nature anymore.

i\'m in the city \'cause only \"pleasure\" are some foods (at best)
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interesting words in that song!
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to the man from ireland who offered to send me a labtop

not sure how much longer i\'ll be at current address

plus knowing this force i\'m leery of any scripting

i also wanted to say if you don\'t have a frame of reference for something and you are a character or bot you will look for it somehow to fit into your \"little box\" we call \"EGOic beLIEfs\"

so bots who have no frame of reference for something will place it into their \"little box\" be it mental illness or a medical problem or drug use blah blah blah

it\'s easier to poo poo something you have no frame of reference for than to \"upset the apple cart\" by actually considering certain things

those like myself \"upset the apple cart\" because we don\'t \"tow the party line\" and somehow Truly Wake Up to what is going on

as far as why do i post on here? \'cause it is something i choose to do. it\'s as simple as that

i hitchhiked for about a month and slept rough in a small tent with no sleeping bag...in parks..in wilderness...depending on where i ended up...so..been there..done that...
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to the man from ireland who offered to send me a labtop

not sure how much longer i\'ll be at current address

plus knowing this force i\'m leery of any scripting

i also wanted to say if you don\'t have a frame of reference for something and you are a character or bot you will look for it somehow to fit into your \"little box\" we call \"EGOic beLIEfs\"

so bots who have no frame of reference for something will place it into their \"little box\" be it mental illness or a medical problem or drug use blah blah blah

it\'s easier to poo poo something you have no frame of reference for than to \"upset the apple cart\" by actually considering certain things

those like myself \"upset the apple cart\" because we don\'t \"tow the party line\" and somehow Truly Wake Up to what is going on

as far as why do i post on here? \'cause it is something i choose to do. it\'s as simple as that

i hitchhiked for about a month and slept rough in a small tent with no sleeping bag...in parks..in wilderness...depending on where i ended up...so..been there..done that...
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well u made ur pint that its scripted im just not seein why u continue to post as your point is made,, recently i talked about this girl with my friend about i hadnt seen her in ages....low and behold like 2-3days later i see her in line at the store i was in.... stuff like that has happened more than once

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