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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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I know a thing or two about performing.
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all bots know a thing or two about performing..thing is they aren't good at it
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vague is the word for that response.

in other words it leaves you in the fog...meaning intentional scripting that doesn't provide any answer

nope...there is a "force" scripting this world and scripting characters/bots and the characters/bots are knowingly or unknowlingly(most likely) participating

it isn't a chaos world. everything is carefully scripted and orchestrated everyday. highly contrived and transparent scripting and very bad acting.
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OP, You're a clever little program.

On one hand you write an ancient belief that the world is illusion and desire to end it or leave it.

On the other hand you feed it endlessly with your
super-egoic dogma about it all.

The thing about your particular droid program is that it loops a person into the super-ego; which is far more godly than the regular ole run-of-the-mill garden variety ego. Then you think you're special because of it or The pied piper or some other such nonsense which keeps your illusory conflict propelled and in motion and action as you playing the part of the savior. lol

No matter what you say about the world illusion you always end up back feeding it with you as the super-ego.
When things are going good for you you're in charge.
When things are not going good for you there's an evil being in charge.
It's a pretty obvious pattern to recognize unless you're invested in your program as you are.
Keeping it alive is what you're about.
The interesting thing is your program keeps getting people to watch and feed into it while trying to persuade the reader and you as the writer that *you* are doing something about it.

I resisted the niggling inducements from you to get me to respond for sometime and this morning your little program, the droid you are, tempted me again to respond to feed it. It was a very clear bait and hook through the entanglement telephone line of communication.

Today I decided to play into your tempting little "feeding of the droid program" that you are, but not without first letting you know that I know.

You're perhaps more into the super-ego and mixed up more now than you were last year as I briefly skimmed through your babble.

You want to create with zero limitations in a world you have deemed as 'not real'. wow. Then when it looks like it isn't going your way you want out by a certain date unless you can create as you wish. Then you'll stay.
Then you claim that you don't need to create anything.
The patterns you present are obvious to anyone who uses a whit of sense. Back and forth it goes.

LGBT droids are one of the most programmed groups. You yourself noticed that whilst staying in San Fran right? You just don't like to factor yourself into that little program.
Correction: sometimes you recognize you're a program for a milisecond and then you're off doing the bait and switch trick endlessly trying to lure people to feed your variation of the little programs whilst claiming to be out of the program or wanting out of this program.

As for your gnosticism venture latest program to trap people on this board and lure them in with yet another distraction program I will give a few pieces of info for you:

1) if there is a 'real' god then it isn't omnipotent because their teachings claim it is powerless against this demiurge in this realm. So much for omnipotence. You never seem to catch these little flaws. Why? because you're a bait droid program. The lure is there but the goal is to keep it fed whilst saying you don't want to feed it.
Oh, I was onto your droid program early on.

2)The varying gnostic beliefs baits and lures into a program which traps the anger emotion and claims that anger is the best. Not only is it best it's crucial. It is a release program for anger so it stays locked in. That's a recognizable program trick which is repeated over and over in various ways. Recognize,then let it release and sanction it and lock it in. You don't notice that it's a loop as you're super-ego is so busy getting somewhere very, very important with some very very speshul and important truths.(tm). People either use love as a motivation or anger; but in this case anger is the program motivator of choice to keep it all locked in place whilst thinking you're doing something speshul to over come it.

Of course those trapped in the belief don't get it that emotion is all ego and you're particular expertise in it would be classified as super-ego. These droid types don't get that anger is an emotional root of fear which is a flip side of the emotional coin of love.
It's all emotion.
then what to do with your emotion?
Instead you liken your emotional anger as something extraordinary rather than seeing it as part of the program. Ergo your embraced anger feeds the program and in your case you like to feed it to others wholesale.
It doesn't matter if it's love or hate as long as the program stays in tact right? Right!
Got it!
Understand?

Super-ego is a type of program with a very specific set of traits characteristic to the droids who employ it. I've seen it many times and it always presents the same way, which way is the exact way in which you present. There are some variations in other super-ego droids but anyone familair with spotting them can see the familiarities present at the root. Super-ego is an enticing thing that's evident by reading or being around those who employ it.

Your acquired matrix book which you like to push onto others is a very skilled program, but if you're adept at seeing through programs you would have known that, right? RIGHT!

1) at first glance it appears that the answers are there in your well loved matrix book. If you look deeper you will notice that it loops the reader back into feeding into it. Quite a little program! Clever little program. The use of such words like "illusion" or trying to overcome it make for a clever little distraction to hook a person away from seeing it for what it is....but if you're quite adept at seeing through programs then you'll notice it right away, right? Right!

2) The reader is caught up in the necessary program of fighting the matrix program through countering it using contrasting observations. Why is this necessary? If you know all about recognizing programs then you'll know that it's necessary because the procedure and process ignites the mind aspect to keep feeding the program. This book does this while making the droid think or believe or feel that they're doing something aware to stop the program.

That book could be summed up in one page -----
Don't feed the program. But then again, if it did droids like you who are here to keep the program going while claiming to not want it - or claiming to get rid of it - wouldn't want to do that. You easily give yourself away with so many tells... you loop back and forth and then you want to create with zero limitation and then you want to go if it's not achieved.
You're babble and yackity yack posts prove as much.

But of course the latest book you're pedalling doesn't stop it at all does it. It shows all kinds of examples to get the mind excitable and engaged by thinking you're taking action AGAINST the program but droids don't recognize that by following this you're really feeding the very program you wish to get out of. It's a quicksand and then you notice you still can't get out even though you imagine you hold all these fabulous truths(tm).

Years ago I saw a similar version of this on the now defunct yahoo board for Nisagardatta.
Oh the ancient philosophies, beliefs and debates that were continuously wielded around there.....
-- it is illusion
-- we are one not separate we are one
etc, etc, ad nauseum
round and round it went on the merry-go-round
or for some it became an un-merry-go-round.
The details ignite the inner awareness of one whilst fighting it at the same time and it simultaneously ignites the super-ego which then propells (or programs) the droid into believing and thinking that their something super-speshul.
This endless eternal thread is the Same shit different toilet.
The Nis board isn't there any more.
I'd had enough of that feeding frenzy.
That's why this thread is here, to bait and switch and lure people to keep it all going and fed, yum, yum, yum. Gobble gobble gobble gobble. Some gobble it up hungry for their next program feast, or their next savior replacement.
I know.
I will not feed your droid program anymore.
This is the last time I will bring your bs program to your attention as in doing so is feeding you with your much needed yum yums.
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You made the person in Florida's life seem so long & Crazy. Really??? I think the person is loved among family & friends. Are you sure you are not the wordy one? Some comments are concise and to the point, but your comment is verbose.

I would love to go to Fiji. When?
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lol
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You can’t work your way through the script, all you can do is work the script away from you
 Quoting: onex 8731682


How do you work the script away from you?
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View the script inclose and artificial synchronicity (FORCEDspontaneity)prominently features right in front of you as a running script

The (Force behind) the script monitors you all the time

When you monitor (it) all the time, that creates space so that (it) seems as though (the Force behind) the script, has to FORC E a staged script onto you to keep you in its stageworld

Distance from the script is related to your awareness of (it)

The person next to you doesn't have that space because their focus is un-developed...

...You can see this for yourself when you look at the characters/kundalinic shells (as they are) not as they 'impress' onto your programming

...They will say something that feels more sophisticated than the look in their eyes could manage (on its own) (if this was a real world)

...Characters/Kundalinic shells don't have experience that isn't scripted and they don't seem to have experienced scripting

Even the ones who feel 'experienced' can't read the script; so you are left with what appears to be another form of new recruit, in the script, without 'them' knowing it or 'being' interested in it

An unreal situation when you look at it

The only other choice seams to be to not look (so the Force uses artificial synchronicity to catch you unawares. The more you are aware of the artificial synchronicity the more forced it seams to be, to make its impression on your world

...Sometimes when you turn around to reply to a scripted kundalinic shell it is as if someone has turned the light out....Not to 'bright' where 'they' are at...You can have an IQ of 180 and 'have' that look

The 'script' is 'dimly-lit' even on a bright day

Are you surrounded by new recruits or are the 'characters' intentionally scripted by the 'F
orce' to appear that way, whilst bringing the intentionality of their 'own' experience' to the 'role'...?
 Quoting: onex 8731682


nice post onex!
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TESTICLES
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low riders lol
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Oh, I forgot to mention

From the matrix book you pedal:
exerpt: For one who lives in Florida (like Truman), Fiji is the archetype of the other side of the globe, meaning that one should "learn" with their characters (!) how to develop one's spirit, how to perfect this or that, how to be "rational" and perform a series of actions in the Stage World so as to "achieve" one's "goal", and "deserve" and "gain" his or her beloved one. So there he/she is, on the other side of the globe waiting for you, and all you have to do is going there. Of course along all the way they'll try to "judge" and "evaluate" every little act of yours and every little thought that passes your mind. And you'll stay mesmerized under their linguistic prison and thought control like a puppet... All these alleged "learnings" are already inserted in your pigeon-holes that you'll access later on.


Truman Burbank did exactly what he should have done : he didn't go to Fiji. He just left the set. And there she was, Sylvia, outside the set, waiting for him.


Following this reasoning, if your beloved one is present in your routine wearing a kundalinic shell to treat your vampirism and if you intend to leave your linguistic prison and at the same time share wonderful moments with him or her, all you have to do is not-doing. In other words, behave in your routine exactly as if he/she wouldn't approach you at all, unless he or she specifically tells you inside your heart to do this or that. This sophisticated maneuver can help breaking your expectations about your beloved one's approach and also the tensions created by their ongoing speculation and brainwashing.


THEY probably will then try everything they can to "scan" your routine and apparently "close" all the imaginable doors of opportunities your beloved one could potentially use inside your routine to approach you. Using a variety of speculations, that you may want to label "OPPORTUNITY CLONING" or "ROUTINE SCANNING", they may try to convince your brain that THEY control the character of your beloved one, that THEY control your life and his/hers, that THEY control the destiny of the couple.


And therefore convincing your brain that you're the one that must take the initiative to approach your beloved one in the Matrix reality.


After all - they'd say -, you must "deserve" his or her shell. You must "learn" how to "take" that "meat" for you (see the something-to-learn approach for more details) and you must "prove" them that you're capable of doing this in the Stage World, otherwise they'll label you a " disabled person".


Consequently, you must do a rational effort so as to "achieve" or "reach" your "goal", which is "eating" that piece of "meat". You must have your "merit" so as their characters can "reward" you, "allowing" you to "delight" yourself in such "pleasure". That is, provided that you first make your auric payment - of course. After all, "there is no free lunch", as they like to say.


Do you see how far the distorted and demented logic of their speculators can take you ?
/end exerpt.

Op you don't notice that your yackity yack fits into the above category? You don't notice it's all a feed to loop you? You keep feeding with your yack and your beliefs pedalled keep looping you around like a little puppy being led by a leash. Then the program is fed and you read things that say you shouldn't do this or that, yet you do them as your super-ego can't help it, aye yaye yaye.
And I am feeding you yum yums.
I will stop that.

The super-ego always likes to brag. Can't resist, by saying things like, "I'm so wonderful, I do this or that because I'm so wonderful. Look how excelled and superior I am, I don't get sick, I am so transcended already."
You are addicted to winning and excelling like you never get sick and oh how incredible you are.
Or the flipside of that coin is the one who was sick so long but oh how wonderful they are because they conquered it. or other such egoic stuff. It's all a loop that feeds the program you claim you are getting rid of. Then you say you have no ego. It's quite a clever tricky little program you feed and are fed.

You convince and bait some who want to conquor and be the victor too and the loop and program continues as you feed it.
 Quoting: WeAreDreamDancers


commodo translatione lol
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vague is the word for that response.

in other words it leaves you in the fog...meaning intentional scripting that doesn't provide any answer

nope...there is a "force" scripting this world and scripting characters/bots and the characters/bots are knowingly or unknowlingly(most likely) participating

it isn't a chaos world. everything is carefully scripted and orchestrated everyday. highly contrived and transparent scripting and very bad acting.
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OP, You're a clever little program.

On one hand you write an ancient belief that the world is illusion and desire to end it or leave it.

On the other hand you feed it endlessly with your
super-egoic dogma about it all.

The thing about your particular droid program is that it loops a person into the super-ego; which is far more godly than the regular ole run-of-the-mill garden variety ego. Then you think you're special because of it or The pied piper or some other such nonsense which keeps your illusory conflict propelled and in motion and action as you playing the part of the savior. lol

No matter what you say about the world illusion you always end up back feeding it with you as the super-ego.
When things are going good for you you're in charge.
When things are not going good for you there's an evil being in charge.
It's a pretty obvious pattern to recognize unless you're invested in your program as you are.
Keeping it alive is what you're about.
The interesting thing is your program keeps getting people to watch and feed into it while trying to persuade the reader and you as the writer that *you* are doing something about it.

I resisted the niggling inducements from you to get me to respond for sometime and this morning your little program, the droid you are, tempted me again to respond to feed it. It was a very clear bait and hook through the entanglement telephone line of communication.

Today I decided to play into your tempting little "feeding of the droid program" that you are, but not without first letting you know that I know.

You're perhaps more into the super-ego and mixed up more now than you were last year as I briefly skimmed through your babble.

You want to create with zero limitations in a world you have deemed as 'not real'. wow. Then when it looks like it isn't going your way you want out by a certain date unless you can create as you wish. Then you'll stay.
Then you claim that you don't need to create anything.
The patterns you present are obvious to anyone who uses a whit of sense. Back and forth it goes.

LGBT droids are one of the most programmed groups. You yourself noticed that whilst staying in San Fran right? You just don't like to factor yourself into that little program.
Correction: sometimes you recognize you're a program for a milisecond and then you're off doing the bait and switch trick endlessly trying to lure people to feed your variation of the little programs whilst claiming to be out of the program or wanting out of this program.

As for your gnosticism venture latest program to trap people on this board and lure them in with yet another distraction program I will give a few pieces of info for you:

1) if there is a 'real' god then it isn't omnipotent because their teachings claim it is powerless against this demiurge in this realm. So much for omnipotence. You never seem to catch these little flaws. Why? because you're a bait droid program. The lure is there but the goal is to keep it fed whilst saying you don't want to feed it.
Oh, I was onto your droid program early on.

2)The varying gnostic beliefs baits and lures into a program which traps the anger emotion and claims that anger is the best. Not only is it best it's crucial. It is a release program for anger so it stays locked in. That's a recognizable program trick which is repeated over and over in various ways. Recognize,then let it release and sanction it and lock it in. You don't notice that it's a loop as you're super-ego is so busy getting somewhere very, very important with some very very speshul and important truths.(tm). People either use love as a motivation or anger; but in this case anger is the program motivator of choice to keep it all locked in place whilst thinking you're doing something speshul to over come it.

Of course those trapped in the belief don't get it that emotion is all ego and you're particular expertise in it would be classified as super-ego. These droid types don't get that anger is an emotional root of fear which is a flip side of the emotional coin of love.
It's all emotion.
then what to do with your emotion?
Instead you liken your emotional anger as something extraordinary rather than seeing it as part of the program. Ergo your embraced anger feeds the program and in your case you like to feed it to others wholesale.
It doesn't matter if it's love or hate as long as the program stays in tact right? Right!
Got it!
Understand?

Super-ego is a type of program with a very specific set of traits characteristic to the droids who employ it. I've seen it many times and it always presents the same way, which way is the exact way in which you present. There are some variations in other super-ego droids but anyone familair with spotting them can see the familiarities present at the root. Super-ego is an enticing thing that's evident by reading or being around those who employ it.

Your acquired matrix book which you like to push onto others is a very skilled program, but if you're adept at seeing through programs you would have known that, right? RIGHT!

1) at first glance it appears that the answers are there in your well loved matrix book. If you look deeper you will notice that it loops the reader back into feeding into it. Quite a little program! Clever little program. The use of such words like "illusion" or trying to overcome it make for a clever little distraction to hook a person away from seeing it for what it is....but if you're quite adept at seeing through programs then you'll notice it right away, right? Right!

2) The reader is caught up in the necessary program of fighting the matrix program through countering it using contrasting observations. Why is this necessary? If you know all about recognizing programs then you'll know that it's necessary because the procedure and process ignites the mind aspect to keep feeding the program. This book does this while making the droid think or believe or feel that they're doing something aware to stop the program.

That book could be summed up in one page -----
Don't feed the program. But then again, if it did droids like you who are here to keep the program going while claiming to not want it - or claiming to get rid of it - wouldn't want to do that. You easily give yourself away with so many tells... you loop back and forth and then you want to create with zero limitation and then you want to go if it's not achieved.
You're babble and yackity yack posts prove as much.

But of course the latest book you're pedalling doesn't stop it at all does it. It shows all kinds of examples to get the mind excitable and engaged by thinking you're taking action AGAINST the program but droids don't recognize that by following this you're really feeding the very program you wish to get out of. It's a quicksand and then you notice you still can't get out even though you imagine you hold all these fabulous truths(tm).

Years ago I saw a similar version of this on the now defunct yahoo board for Nisagardatta.
Oh the ancient philosophies, beliefs and debates that were continuously wielded around there.....
-- it is illusion
-- we are one not separate we are one
etc, etc, ad nauseum
round and round it went on the merry-go-round
or for some it became an un-merry-go-round.
The details ignite the inner awareness of one whilst fighting it at the same time and it simultaneously ignites the super-ego which then propells (or programs) the droid into believing and thinking that their something super-speshul.
This endless eternal thread is the Same shit different toilet.
The Nis board isn't there any more.
I'd had enough of that feeding frenzy.
That's why this thread is here, to bait and switch and lure people to keep it all going and fed, yum, yum, yum. Gobble gobble gobble gobble. Some gobble it up hungry for their next program feast, or their next savior replacement.
I know.
I will not feed your droid program anymore.
This is the last time I will bring your bs program to your attention as in doing so is feeding you with your much needed yum yums.
 Quoting: WeAreDreamDancers


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You can’t work your way through the script, all you can do is work the script away from you
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How do you work the script away from you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24774081


View the script inclose and artificial synchronicity (FORCEDspontaneity)prominently features right in front of you as a running script

The (Force behind) the script monitors you all the time

When you monitor (it) all the time, that creates space so that (it) seems as though (the Force behind) the script, has to FORC E a staged script onto you to keep you in its stageworld

Distance from the script is related to your awareness of (it)

The person next to you doesn't have that space because their focus is un-developed...

...You can see this for yourself when you look at the characters/kundalinic shells (as they are) not as they 'impress' onto your programming

...They will say something that feels more sophisticated than the look in their eyes could manage (on its own) (if this was a real world)

...Characters/Kundalinic shells don't have experience that isn't scripted and they don't seem to have experienced scripting

Even the ones who feel 'experienced' can't read the script; so you are left with what appears to be another form of new recruit, in the script, without 'them' knowing it or 'being' interested in it

An unreal situation when you look at it

The only other choice seams to be to not look (so the Force uses artificial synchronicity to catch you unawares. The more you are aware of the artificial synchronicity the more forced it seams to be, to make its impression on your world

...Sometimes when you turn around to reply to a scripted kundalinic shell it is as if someone has turned the light out....Not to 'bright' where 'they' are at...You can have an IQ of 180 and 'have' that look

The 'script' is 'dimly-lit' even on a bright day

Are you surrounded by new recruits or are the 'characters' intentionally scripted by the 'F
orce' to appear that way, whilst bringing the intentionality of their 'own' experience' to the 'role'...?
 Quoting: onex 8731682


i'm repeating onex's post 'cause it wasn't b^3
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I know a thing or two about performing.
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all bots know a thing or two about performing..thing is they aren't good at it
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The only performance that makes it, that makes it all the way, is the one that achieves madness. Am I right? Eh?
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I know a thing or two about performing.
 Quoting: Chas 44431599


all bots know a thing or two about performing..thing is they aren't good at it
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The only performance that makes it, that makes it all the way, is the one that achieves madness. Am I right? Eh?
 Quoting: Turner 44483852


depends on your definition of madness

foolish behaviour would be considered anything outside the collective hive mind mentality or programming...in that case madness

but as Eckhart Tolle said "the nature of EGO is insanity"...meaning that the collective population of bots in EGOic character role is insanity (i don't subscribe to most of Tolle's bullshit btw)

we observe the bots everyday...the walking dead...get up..poop/shower....transit to work....8 hours of repetitive task...transit back from work...eat....TV....bed...wash, rinse, repeat....

they say they're alive and living but they're really the "walking dead" as i said at 17 years old

really i feel more ALIVE than the bots/characters around me...but i cannot find any "real people" like me...even my companion is scripted to a large degree

today on the subway another dull conversation between a mother with another mother about her child...such fake scripting in this bourgeois city....most bots are bourgeois programmed which is why Oprah Winfrey was so popular...plastic fantastic..just like Truman Show

the "beast" or "force" has scripted the lady we live with to give me "spiritual" books regarding chakras and all sorts of new age nonsense...lots of b^3 (bleh bleh bleh)

then we have the vegan boy downstairs so he can educate me about how animals are really humans just like us..."oh really" i said as i swallow my angus beef

then we have the landlady's son who has a surrogate relationship with his mother and is fat and uses too much toilet paper...he is intellectually scripted and lies in bed most of the day..

oh yeah...not to forget the guy we met from new york where we internet...he is there to reinforce the faggot scripting...he tells us we should get married with DOMA...i care nothing of the nonsense but he keeps repeating his scripting..b^3
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A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.


No matter what you say or do can fit the "Matrix" theory.
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Illusion can present itself in many ways. People form feelings and thoughts that are not based on Truth all the time. This is what I call reality.

Your senses feed you input about the world around you and your brain formulates a composite interpretation, obviously there are other factors involved, but that's beyond the scope of my response.

It forms an interestingly enjoyable sandbox for philosophy and conception, however it can never assure that the resulting dissertations will reflect any Truth.

I am forced to admit that most people really just enjoy playing games.
One Truth.... many realities
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Who or what controls my balls?
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A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.
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'prophesy' is after-event 'scripting'......after the event......

All other prophesy doesn't exist (it's not in the 'script')

The 'script' is never 'predicted' to 'unscript'

'prophesy' is predictable in the false parameters of the 'script' but it never 'creates' the 'script'

The 'prophesizer' is fed the 'script' (in the 'loop' of feeding the 'script')

No matter what you say or do can fit the "Matrix" theory.
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There is no 'free-will' in the 'script'

Everything fits because everything is 'scripted'
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A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.


No matter what you say or do can fit the "Matrix" theory.
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in my case the patterns started before i watched any of the movies 'cause i didn't have internet at home initially years ago.

the movies such as Matrix are metaphor/allegory for what people like myself go thru. the agents taking over people in the Matrix movie mean something different to a character/bot like you versus somebody operating from "Father" mind like myself

same as Truman Show. bots would view it as a movie about media intrusion in people's lives. for people like myself it shows the scripted and FALSE/FAKE nature of this world and of characters

i had the experiences before the beLIEfs.
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Illusion can present itself in many ways. People form feelings and thoughts that are not based on Truth all the time. This is what I call reality.

Your senses feed you input about the world around you and your brain formulates a composite interpretation, obviously there are other factors involved, but that's beyond the scope of my response.

It forms an interestingly enjoyable sandbox for philosophy and conception, however it can never assure that the resulting dissertations will reflect any Truth.

I am forced to admit that most people really just enjoy playing games.
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there is nothing real about his world

you are a bot/character trying to understand illusion by talking about "physical" same as idiot scientist who study illusion using illusory tools to study something that isn't real.

you talk from intellect/logic which is "MOTHER/MATRIX" mind
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Who or what controls my balls?
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your "MOTHER"
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A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior.
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'prophesy' is after-event 'scripting'......after the event......

All other prophesy doesn't exist (it's not in the 'script')

The 'script' is never 'predicted' to 'unscript'

'prophesy' is predictable in the false parameters of the 'script' but it never 'creates' the 'script'

The 'prophesizer' is fed the 'script' (in the 'loop' of feeding the 'script')

No matter what you say or do can fit the "Matrix" theory.
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There is no 'free-will' in the 'script'

Everything fits because everything is 'scripted'
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SEE'ing into the script

characters/bots THINK they have free will because nature of EGOic character role is to want to be IN CONTROL

nature of EGO is insanity as Tolle says..bots/characters collectively insane..of course 'cause they're scripted by "MOTHER"

just as Eve who ate the apple (tree of knowledge/beliefs/polarity/duality) the collective bots are in a FALLEN STATE and are in mind delusion that somehow they are in the driver's seat
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if you still identify with your given name. if you still resonate with your past history. if you still feel nostalgic and sentimental. if you still get sad or afraid. if you still have thoughts racing in your head. then you are in EGOic character role and CONTROLLED and SCRIPTED by the "force" that scripts this world.

your thoughts are NOT your own. you are NOT creating your reality. it is created by the "force" or "MOTHER"

all beLIEfs in this world are a trap of "MOTHER" or the "MATRIX"

the beLIEfs go hand-in-hand with allegory of EVE eating the forbidden apple (a Fallen State)

where do your thoughts come from? exactly you cannot answer that..."MOTHER" is scripting your thoughts and your actions and the experiences you experience. MAtrix (Mother Tricks)

how do i know? my head is empty of thoughts. i no longer feel sadness and fear. i don't feel nostalgic, sentimental, compassion or empathy. i'm aware that "love" is an illusion. i don't identify with my given name or past. i have the "FATHER MIND". i am the observer and the observed. i can SEE into the scripting and SEE that everybody is scripted A to Z...

i'm scripted also (observer and observed) but to a LESSER DEGREE because i have more control because i'm no longer operating from MOTHER MIND or MATRIX controlled mind.

beLIEfs are confirmed to some degree but it's ARTIFICIAL SYNCHRONICITY to give the illusion of free will and illusion that you create your reality

bots/characters (most of population) are clueless and in hypnotic trance. asleep to what is truly going on.

bots/characters are scripted and programmed.
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EVE = MOTHER = MA-TRIX

EVE eating apple = beliefs/polarity/duality

MOTHER = MAR = MARE = MARIA = Virgin Mary = WATER

MOTHER MIND = fallen state

FATHER MIND = head empty of thoughts but access to river of thoughts. calm, warm-like flame under rib cage.

key is in NOT reacting and detaching from everything in this world.
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Who or what controls my balls?
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your "MOTHER"
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Yo momma's like a Christmas tree, everyone gets to put their balls on it.
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Who or what controls my balls?
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your "MOTHER"
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Yo momma's like a Christmas tree, everyone gets to put their balls on it.
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the "MOTHER" is a tramp
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i could give a daily rundown of the Trumanesque scripting that happens to us

we try to take different transit to avoid scripting so couple days back we took J line home...we get out and a British guy dressed as a woman came up to us at a light as we waited to cross. there were 10 other people but the guy had to get right in my face and he started singing. i had to look at his ugly mug and listening to his bad singing..i just said "blah blah blah" to him 'cause i knew who was behind it

yesterday magickally this British guy dressed in woman's clothing and bad makeup was this time in the Castro area to greet us. magickally considering we were on a different MUNI taking another route home

that didn't include the bullshit we had in the store. my companion was pushed by some bot behind him. he didn't react but "IT" was trying to get some reaction

a few minutes later we were in the underground exiting and some short he/she cut me off and i stepped on his/her heel in the subway tunnel. she made some comment about my taking up too much room..blah blah blah

then we go to a place where we go to relax. this TransOP introduced herself and told her whole story about her sex change like i give a flying fuck...ugly mug on that one also...

anyways she had these big eyes just like the British one and she got up real close and animated when communicating with me. i knew who "IT" was in there...

that is the metaphor of the "agents" in the Matrix movie taking over character. that is the "force" or "Mother"

that's just 2 days of bullshit

even the kid that lives downstairs..the one that says animals are human and he is a vegan..well what a surprise he has the exact same birthday as me...coincidence? nope just more artificial synchronicity
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somebody sent me this link
[link to montalk.net]
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from link:

Real vs Artificial Synchronicities



11/17/2004
↳ matrix

Real synchronicities and artificial synchronicities both have meaning to the perceiver. Both manifest via highly improbable “coincidences.” Real synchronicities come from your subconscious/HigherSelf/Universe and let you know that a quantum shift in perception is imminent – this can be an emotionally charged situation or a smoother leap in learning.

Artificial synchronicity is engineered by hyperdimensional negative beings in an attempt to suppress, sabotage, drain, distract, or mislead targets on the verge of awakening. This can happen in a variety of ways.

One way is by backing disinformation with synchronistic “confirmation” – for example, you can get multiple people at the same time who apparently don’t know each other to tell you about some idea, which in truth is bait to lead you down the wrong path. You may see this odd timing as confirmation that it’s the right path, even though it isn’t.

A common one happens to people who attend UFO or New Age conventions and “synchronistically” meet someone who happens to share odd things in common with their personal history. They believe it was “meant to be” and so often start relationships with these people only to find out too late that they were conned or hooked up with a matrix agent.

Another is experiencing electronic anomalies after doing something that’s on the wayward path. Say you are researching something, then the computer freezes or shuts down or whatever. Some people take that to mean they are on the right path and are being interfered with by “the dark side”, when in truth they are being reinforced in their error.

Now, all of the above can happen with REAL synchronicities as well. How to tell apart artificial from real synchronicities? Well, the artificial ones seem contrived, very forceful and rushed, and just a bit too weird. They try to press you into making a particular decision or sparkle up something that you know deep down is false, whereas REAL synchronicities merely reflect confirmation of decisions you have already made or else forecast an upcoming leap in progress.

Take into account the nature of the Higher Self and the Universe’s interface with your own subconscious mind, reflecting in experience the nature of your thoughts, feelings, and tendencies — there is much weirdness that can happen via this process. Likewise, consider that negative hyperdimensional forces have advanced technology bordering on time travel, can influence people around you into saying or doing pre-scripted things, have at their disposal cybergenetic humanoids posing as regular people who are completely remote-controllable, and can zap electronic equipment or cause paranormal effects. So basically you have to differentiate between “real magic” and “stage illusions” when it comes to synchronicity.

Only experience and intuition can tell you know which is which.
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much of info at the link i don't agree with
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Thread: People who know too much about you? Artificial synchronicity, intuitives or spies?
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[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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[link to www.theherohandbook.com]
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[link to www.missionmission.org]

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