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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
Turd Flusher
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They say, "If you do something right, no one will be sure you've done anything at all." If there was a God he would convince some or all of us that he didn't exist.

Specifically so that we would take responsibility for our own lives and make us do the work needed to preserve ourselves. Like eating right and exercising, as opposed to simply saying it's God's will, "I'm fat and unhealthy." Also instead of saying, "It's God's will I'm poor." We get jobs and try to make money to feed ourselves.

Rather than blame a alien being we should take charge of our lives to create a positive experience here on Earth for ourselves.

Life is what we make of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45236773


Would/should is overridden by the c**t force then replaced by false scripted 'God's' Will

What do you need a positive experience here for when 75% of the place is scripted dark shit repeated ad infinitum ?

Anybody that is propped up by the script works for the c**t force behind the script and 'it' works through them : their dialogue, their programming, their true intentions, their 'World-View'

The more someone 'works' for the 'scriptwriter' the easier they are to 'see' and the more predictive their circle of functioning
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but i can guarantee you for 100% your lives are completely scripted A to Z and free will is an illusion
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No you can't, you can't guarantee shit, so shut it, turd.
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i'm afraid i SEE more than you can imagine and yes i can guarantee that your life is 100% scripted A to Z and free will is an illusion

cliche ignorance is bliss very truthful in this case

i've seen everybody around me taken over by this force in a Walmart. i've seen it more times than you can imagine. it talks to me directly

but see...i can only tell you but you only have your own experience and if no frame of reference you will get angry or label me mentally ill blah blah blah

my companion experiences the same games with events and characters

i've seen so many people controlled by this force that i cannot disregard it

"you can't handle the truth"
it goes beyond your programming as a character to take in what i'm teling you. you aren't designed to understand what i'm going through

Truman Show is a metaphor for this world. Christophe is the asshole force that is scripting events and games...everything really

you are the turd but are too ignorant to know it
 Quoting: op (n^2) 36461365





My beautifull friend! Do not even loose your needed energy to explain something!
Could you post me something at:
attas1999@gmail.com
I will be appraciated to talk sometimes to you.thanks
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They say, "If you do something right, no one will be sure you've done anything at all." If there was a God he would convince some or all of us that he didn't exist.

Specifically so that we would take responsibility for our own lives and make us do the work needed to preserve ourselves. Like eating right and exercising, as opposed to simply saying it's God's will, "I'm fat and unhealthy." Also instead of saying, "It's God's will I'm poor." We get jobs and try to make money to feed ourselves.

Rather than blame a alien being we should take charge of our lives to create a positive experience here on Earth for ourselves.

Life is what we make of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45236773


Would/should is overridden by the c**t force then replaced by false scripted 'God's' Will

What do you need a positive experience here for when 75% of the place is scripted dark shit repeated ad infinitum ?

Anybody that is propped up by the script works for the c**t force behind the script and 'it' works through them : their dialogue, their programming, their true intentions, their 'World-View'

The more someone 'works' for the 'scriptwriter' the easier they are to 'see' and the more predictive their circle of functioning
 Quoting: w97m/onex 29656057


100% right. I am glad so many people see beyond matter!
Like you!
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08/17/2013 12:36 PM
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My beautifull friend! Do not even loose your needed energy to explain something!
Could you post me something at:
attas1999@gmail.com
I will be appraciated to talk sometimes to you.thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11248286


OP has been attempting to explain the unexplainable here for the last two years.

OP's not affected by praise or insults, so I wouldn't worry about that either.
King Uther Pendragon (OP)
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08/17/2013 01:38 PM
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i need to act the part of THE KING

that song from Megadeth applies but not the last part. i have no interest in the bottie world anymore and i don't want to be "one of you"

i told my companion they should check people to see they pay on transit and today on subway they did just that for first time ever. i've seen many riding for free especially homeless who harass tourists so there you go..rescripting as we speak

i keep getting messages from MOTHER that perhaps we could work together. i'm a KING so why would i work together?

good things are instant for a KING

i would fix this world in 1 week as dictator or Sovereign KING but is it worth fixing?

i'd do away with the social system immediately. i'd also do away with the government corporations and other corporations would need to apply for a permit to operate (serve public good)

it's also not very Sovereign-like to be like KING ARTHUR...i'd be King Uther Pendragon
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08/17/2013 01:43 PM
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thanks ONEX for your posts

i find your name interesting...ONE X = ONE CHRIST = IX (9) versus XX (female) or XY (male)
 Quoting: op (n^2) 37539282


It's just another rabbit hole, once again; albeit one that gets right to the heart of things (corrupted) of course; there are no straight lines in a twisted maze and no right way to stand and every way to 'fall'

There is a staue in Onex, Switzerland that sums up the c**t force games : 'baiser à la terre' (kiss the earth) by Dante Ghielmini
which is a naked female in 'fallen' prone state 'kissing' the ground

Onex = One kiss...

Auguste Rodin's 'la baiser' was originally part of his sculpture 'The Gates of Hell' that depicts a scene from Dante's 'Inferno'
Later Rodin cast 'la baiser' independently, a work that people find inspiring but it represents man in a fallen state before final damnation

x = 'do not' (enter/touch/kiss ?)

Onex (Switzerland) statue's true intentions :
One kisses where one 'does not' (forbidden fruit)...
op (THE KING)
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you can see what happened to King Arthur. he was too friendly with the "common people" which led to his demise.

which leads me to say that i must cease communicating on here 'cause it isn't very KING-like. i also shouldn't be listening to bots 'cause that also isn't very KING-like

i feel internally a KING...and very calm...

for the person that mentioned writing to me my email at moment is klaatufreeman@hush.ai

please continue using this place as a discussion forum
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ONEX,

please take over on this discussion forum.
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08/17/2013 01:50 PM
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please continue using this place as a discussion forum
 Quoting: op (THE KING) 37539282


Thanks for your permission, oh great one.
LA MAMMA MORTA OP0.
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King Turd
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i wasn't referring to you but to ONEX who has clear vision of MATRIX or MOTHER

you, on the other hand, are "IT" spewing out your usual useless commentaries

your days are numbered

L
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me...
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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King Turd
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i wasn't referring to you but to ONEX who has clear vision of MATRIX or MOTHER

you, on the other hand, are "IT" spewing out your usual useless commentaries

your days are numbered

L
 Quoting: LA MAMMA MORTA OP0. 37539282


ONEX has bought into the same Belief System as you, therefore he/she has clear vision.

rolleyes


Anyone who disagrees is "IT" spewing out your usual useless commentaries.

lame
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King Turd
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i wasn't referring to you but to ONEX who has clear vision of MATRIX or MOTHER
 Quoting: LA MAMMA MORTA OP0. 37539282


ONEX has bought into the same Belief System as you, therefore he/she has clear vision.
 Quoting: Messenger of Turds 45305131


Buying into the script promotes the script to buy into you hence you can't buy your way out of the script
The script is legally/religously/socially acceptable

'Ivy league' vision clears the view of entanglement
Entanglement isn't 'cleared' by 'Ivy league' vision

The script doesn't reform the inside view
The 'reformer' doesn't view the script from the inside view
Hence the script doesn't change views regardless of input
The 'reformer' changes irregardless of the inside view...
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i keep getting messages from MOTHER that perhaps we could work together. i'm a KING so why would i work together?
 Quoting: King Uther Pendragon (OP) 37539282


What do you mean by "messages from MOTHER"? How do the messages arrive, from within or without?
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08/19/2013 11:53 AM
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King Turd
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i wasn't referring to you but to ONEX who has clear vision of MATRIX or MOTHER

you, on the other hand, are "IT" spewing out your usual useless commentaries

your days are numbered

L
 Quoting: LA MAMMA MORTA OP0. 37539282


ONEX has bought into the same Belief System as you, therefore he/she has clear vision.

rolleyes


Anyone who disagrees is "IT" spewing out your usual useless commentaries.

lame
 Quoting: Messenger of Turds 45305131


OP is like one of those conspiracy theorists who when somebody disagrees with them they call them a shill.

Or one of those religious people with whom if you don't share their belief they call you an infidel or a sinner.
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If you agree with OP you have "clear vision".

If you disagree with OP you are "spewing out useless commentaries".
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08/19/2013 06:00 PM
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OP is like one of those conspiracy theorists who when somebody disagrees with them they call them a shill.

Or one of those religious people with whom if you don't share their belief they call you an infidel or a sinner.


OP is the operator

It's all information flow

Nothing to do with the OP that the information is corrupted before he accesses it

OP is one step removed from the process of 'presentation'
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i believe there is a force scripting characters/bots and i call that force Mother or Matrix.
 Quoting: op (n^2) 37539282

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45127929


Everything besides “I am perceiving something” is a belief. Everything. We can’t know anything beyond this one thing.
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OP is the operator

It's all information flow

Nothing to do with the OP that the information is corrupted before he accesses it

OP is one step removed from the process of 'presentation'
 Quoting: w97m/onex 45425368


How do you know for sure what the OP is or isn't?

Unless you are the OP.
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but i can guarantee you for 100% your lives are completely scripted A to Z and free will is an illusion
 Quoting: op (no name) 37539282


No you can't, you can't guarantee shit, so shut it, turd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37338833


i'm afraid i SEE more than you can imagine and yes i can guarantee that your life is 100% scripted A to Z and free will is an illusion

cliche ignorance is bliss very truthful in this case

i've seen everybody around me taken over by this force in a Walmart. i've seen it more times than you can imagine. it talks to me directly

but see...i can only tell you but you only have your own experience and if no frame of reference you will get angry or label me mentally ill blah blah blah

my companion experiences the same games with events and characters

i've seen so many people controlled by this force that i cannot disregard it

"you can't handle the truth"

it goes beyond your programming as a character to take in what i'm teling you. you aren't designed to understand what i'm going through

Truman Show is a metaphor for this world. Christophe is the asshole force that is scripting events and games...everything really

you are the turd but are too ignorant to know it
 Quoting: op (n^2) 36461365


Somewhat relate
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Me and my friends.
<%VolKhrom The Virtuoso%>
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08/26/2013 09:42 PM
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I like turtles.
OP (not onex)
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OP is the operator

It's all information flow

Nothing to do with the OP that the information is corrupted before he accesses it

OP is one step removed from the process of 'presentation'
 Quoting: w97m/onex 45425368


How do you know for sure what the OP is or isn't?

Unless you are the OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45463342


i felt the need to post for myself

i'm pretty clear that this world has nothing to offer

my dilemna is i care greatly for my companion. will we be together when we leave this world?

the force doesn't want us to get rid of these bodies. how do i know? it has hung out endless things to keep me hanging on and buying into the time illusion. bob scheinfeld's zero limitations which are a lie. reluctant messiah book which is a lie. new age new earth which is a lie. christian rapture which is a lie. doom dates which are lies.

nothing ever changes. washing machine. wash, rinse, repeat. manipulated, controlled and deceived pavlovian dog who is constantly kept on a leash using the monetary system.

even where we have lived in San Fran it took away our ability to internet at home and then it thinks it can motivate me to interact with characters or get me reading books given to me by characters where i live. i see all the deceptions.

money is constantly used and it has repeatedly made us homeless and then takes us out because it wants us appreciating its' world. it thinks if it takes away our roof and food we'll appreciate limitations

i can't stand limitations anymore because I KNOW they are NOT REAL. nothing about this world ISRAEL (is real)

bryan kemila with his big event date. mayan calendar shit. yet no disease has been cured since polio and there are still homeless and wars.

this world is literally and figuratively a fiction..everything about it...government (corporation)...legal system (never consented)...

all beliefs are LIEs designed to keep you as the dog chasing its tail and dates are hung out to keep stringing you along

this is definitely of fallen world of characters who hate themselves...mentally ill world...fake and false in every respect.

this force wants to keep you on its lame ass script. it needs me to react and want this world to fuel it and keep it going.

now when i see characters i look away..i keep telling myself THIS IS NOT REAL (Is(not)RAEL). limitations are NOT RRAEL.

ulimately i am the only force or power in this world because i choose whether i stay or go. i choose whether i react. i choose whether i stay on script.

this force is so stupid and really doesn't understand me. it scripts people telling me to get married when i feel that marriage is nonsense and i don't even recognize the statutory system

i've given up on the idea that anything will ever change. it does things i say but it's artificial synchronicity designed to manipulate me

one thing i have to say though...the characters seem to be getting desperate...

i keep saying none of this isRAEL or this is not real and guess what is happening? my head stuff is getting really odd and it's almost as if the light is dimming at times if that makes sense

if i stay it's only because of my companion..though it's doubtful..even with zero limitations or lots of money the appeal of this world is at all time low...food now tastes really gross...we've eaten expensive meats given to us but i can't even taste the meat...really strange

if i go with my companion i can only hope to see him again once we leave this world.

what is the attraction of this world?

i think the fear of death. the bots are afraid and they are already dead but think they are alive and living

i'm alive and living but living amongst the walking dead. if you are gonna be sad that is one thing to be sad about

worst part is i care so much about my companion and he's the only thing i really really care about. but to stay is the death of both of us. this world is putrid shit.

what is this megalomanical force that wants me on its script. what's the big deal in letting go? why all the deception, lies and manipulation when i can SEE clearly everything it is doing.

our former landlady has taken us in for a few days. wash, rinse repeat otherwise homelessness blah blah blah

everything we do is undermined. any sort of work we want to get...anything we try to do to make things better is sabotaged..why?

i'm posting this for myself 'cause i need to for myself.

if you've got some FORCE-scripted comments DON'T BOTHER 'cause i ain't listening
op (not onex)
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oh yeah

i can't do limitation stuff anymore. i can't be homeless. done it 9 times already

i can't hitchhike. did it for 1 month and slept without sleeping bag in tent for that period

i can't work a regular job. i can't do live-in positions. i can't ask for money anymore.

i can't do anything that is a limitation anymore..it just doesn't feel right..it doesn't go with who i now am..

but for some reason this force thinks i'm gonna go back to being a bot...it really does NOT understand me at all
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Illusion or not, there is little we can do.

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