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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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I think Saturn/Satan, has a lot to do with the matrix, it might be sending frequencies to Earth and creating this illusion, the moon propably plays a role in it.
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you are taking this world too literally.

IT'S NOT REAL..MEANING SATURN JUST SYMBOLIZES SOMETHING

kind of like the Son of God = SUN

kind of like Jupiter represents the CROWN

everything outside of yourself symbolizes the DREAM AND THE DREAMER

Satan is just the Mother or EGO or Dreamer. it is all the aspects or potentials of GOD or the ONE split off..like a cone...GOD or the ONE is at narrowest part of cone where everything is merged (contraction)...expansion is baby onwards when everything is spread out and split off

Melancholia movie was just symbolizing everything merging back into one

Saturn symbolizes something and i'm sure you can research and find out

the MOON just symbolizes MOTHER and the DREAM state

this dreamworld is all allegory, metaphor, symbols and archetypes

even Jumanji movie with Robin WIlliams shows you...little boy finds gameboard..he "let's all his demons come out of the gameboard" which symbolizes this dreamworld or expansion...at end of movie he manages to "put the genie back into the bottle" (contraction)

everything represents the dream state..everything

you CANNOT have more than ONE dreamer...there is ONLY ONE dreaming and IT wants you on ITs script
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I think Saturn/Satan, has a lot to do with the matrix, it might be sending frequencies to Earth and creating this illusion, the moon propably plays a role in it.
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you are taking this world too literally.

IT'S NOT REAL..MEANING SATURN JUST SYMBOLIZES SOMETHING
 Quoting: op (no name) 55702500


Saturn = Chronos = Father Time
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I think Saturn/Satan, has a lot to do with the matrix, it might be sending frequencies to Earth and creating this illusion, the moon propably plays a role in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57130836


you are taking this world too literally.

IT'S NOT REAL..MEANING SATURN JUST SYMBOLIZES SOMETHING
 Quoting: op (no name) 55702500


Saturn = Chronos = Father Time
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thanks so much

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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
I am satan aka jesus Christ / Lucifer
I use advanced mathematical formulas in
the form of consciousness templates
[programs] to control all illusion

I broke all the bible codes
13 layers
which allowed me to gain access outside
what you call the matrix
this revealed me as the author of
the codes [no one can break them all but the creator]

it is a challenge to mankind
[kind men] a kind of intelligence test
encoded in these templates is also the genetic
code of my adamic race

the seed of Lucifer
thru eve
[she never knew I was the father as I used a veil
to shield my id]

don't be insulted
those who broke the templates already know the answer to your quest`i`on and they know I am their genetic father

revealing even this superficial reply
will certainly be the end of your world
you should not have asked

generation x
means the sacrificed generation
x meaning crucified

those who passed the test
will reign in my place

if I allow another world
which is a given

maybe next time you'll give answers not questions

the most intelligent will rule
the most loving will never rule
they will stay with me
 Quoting: Jupi7er

ok
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I am satan aka jesus Christ / Lucifer
I use advanced mathematical formulas in
the form of consciousness templates
[programs] to control all illusion

I broke all the bible codes
13 layers
which allowed me to gain access outside
what you call the matrix
this revealed me as the author of
the codes [no one can break them all but the creator]

it is a challenge to mankind
[kind men] a kind of intelligence test
encoded in these templates is also the genetic
code of my adamic race

the seed of Lucifer
thru eve
[she never knew I was the father as I used a veil
to shield my id]

don't be insulted
those who broke the templates already know the answer to your quest`i`on and they know I am their genetic father

revealing even this superficial reply
will certainly be the end of your world
you should not have asked

generation x
means the sacrificed generation
x meaning crucified

those who passed the test
will reign in my place

if I allow another world
which is a given

maybe next time you'll give answers not questions

the most intelligent will rule
the most loving will never rule
they will stay with me
 Quoting: Jupi7er

 Quoting: 7he he4RT


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Thread: Any Aussie Here? Total Solar Eclipse April 29 - 2014 ( Partial Up to 60% in Australia )


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To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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let me tell you something

the solar eclipse means nothing

it's all bullshit

and even if it means something to you the 'IT' that scripts this world MIGHT give you confirmation of that belief to lure you into a beLIEf trap.

same as law of attraction bullshit. 'IT' will give you 1 or 2 'cookies' to lure you down that rabbit hole. you'll forever be chasing law of attraction nonsense
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Infact, if you check out the second page, you'll see what I've wrote.

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To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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Infact, if you check out the second page, you'll see what I've wrote.

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 Quoting: DVCMCM


"And also, what if I tell you there's no Moon to eclipse to Sun Tomorrow? damned


Lets see how many will check out with their own stuff that event.

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Meanwhile, the sheep are focused on this --> 3.000 pages of pure BS Thread: UKRAINE: Former U.S Air Force General Randy Kee wounded in E. Ukraine, U.S military advisors killed, rebels claim!!!p5184

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To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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 Quoting: DVCMCM


we're ALL SHEEP including the powers-that-never-were

the conspiracy people are just as much sheep as mainstream people

just different programming

NONE OF IT IS REALLY HAPPENING

THE PLANE NEVER EXISTED

UKRAINE DOESN'T EXIST BUT IF YOU PRETEND TO FLY THERE IT WILL EXIST FOR THAT MOMENT IN YOUR MIND

IT'S ALL BULLSHIT TO KEEP YOU TREATING THIS DREAM AS REAL WHEN IT'S NOT REAL

AND WHEN YOU DON'T BUY INTO ANY OF THE BULLTINKLE THEN YOU'LL EITHER BE GIVEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OR YOU'LL BE TOLD YOU'RE THE MESSIAH ...THE GREATEST LIES COME WHEN YOU'RE NOT BUYING THE BULLTINKLE

best to treat everything in this world as bullshit

even my stuff....
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Thread: First Law Of Thermodynamics Debunked

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To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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shouldn't we debunk everything

Dr. Astro is as debunkable as those that claim that Nibiru is coming

He's full of bullshit just like the Nibiru-tards are full of bullshit

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Thread: Fountain Pens Tend To Flood In Airplane

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To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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i want to create WW3 who is with me?


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i want to create WW3 who is with me?


herethere
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you cannot create anything unless "IT" allows it

everything and everybody is scripted A to Z

you are given 1 or 2 cookies of confirmation regarding your belief or your creating and that's what keeps people chasing beliefs...

it's bullshit
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i want to create WW3 who is with me?


herethere
 Quoting: Zapata


you cannot create anything unless "IT" allows it

everything and everybody is scripted A to Z

you are given 1 or 2 cookies of confirmation regarding your belief or your creating and that's what keeps people chasing beliefs...

it's bullshit
 Quoting: OP 56694698


Let's see if anthing interesting happens in the next few months.

If not, perhaps we should call it quits ands sue the internet for leading us astray.
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i want to create WW3 who is with me?


herethere
 Quoting: Zapata


you cannot create anything unless "IT" allows it

everything and everybody is scripted A to Z

you are given 1 or 2 cookies of confirmation regarding your belief or your creating and that's what keeps people chasing beliefs...

it's bullshit
 Quoting: OP 56694698


Let's see if anthing interesting happens in the next few months.

If not, perhaps we should call it quits ands sue the internet for leading us astray.
 Quoting: observing now


yeah sure...more waiting...and most likely same old wash, rinse, repeat

the Dreamer led you astray...how else could you pretend existence unless you lie to yourself?
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING ODD FOR MYSELF AND ASK YOU PEOPLE WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE GOING ON WITH MY COMPANION AND I...THOSE WHO HAVE READ MY COMPLETE DISCUSSION.. I READ SOME STUFF ON CHORONZON AND IT'S POSSIBLE WE HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS DEMON...BUT WOULDN'T THAT DEMON JUST BE AN EXTERNAL REPRESENTATION OF STUFF I'M NOT DEALING WITH MYSELF(IE. EGO)?

I'M GONNA ASK ALL OF YOU TO TELL ME WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE MY SHORTCOMINGS. I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU WHO SAID THAT I DON'T LISTEN VERY WELL SO NOW I'M LISTENING

IF YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE KINDLY WRITE YOUR WORDS

anybody shed any light on Choronzon?

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]


I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR RESPONSES FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE AND WOULD PERHAPS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON and what my companion and i could do?

IF THIS STUFF IS TRUE REGARDING THIS DEMON HOW DOES ONE GET BEYOND THE DEMON AND 'CROSS THE ABYSS'?

I'M MISSING SOMETHING...

OBVIOUSLY I LET MY EGO TAKE CONTROL OF THE PROCESS AND THANKFULLY I'VE CAUGHT THAT

ALSO...PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THAT I NEED TO HAVE HEART BUT HOW DO YOU HAVE HEART WHEN EVERYBODY AROUND YOU APPEARS AS UNREAL AND EVERYTHING LOOKS FAKE?

UNDERSTAND?

i look forward to any responses from people who have dealt with this demon (if it's real and not my own EGO) and those who have gone thru a similar process AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY COMPANION AND I

I'LL SHUT UP NOW UNLESS I HAVE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO CONTRIBUTE

THANKS

BTW -THE DEMON VOICE IN THE PARK WE'VE HEARD TWICE AND ALSO IT TOOK OVER OTHERS WE'VE INTERACTED WITH IN THE PAST
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obviously annihilation of the EGO is paramount
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[link to www.eng.vedanta.ru]

Why is it that we run after sense pleasures?' Here is the answer: 'Because of our identification with our body'. One who has identified himself with the body is naturally greedy for sense pleasures. But one who is devoid of such bodily identification will not run after sense pleasure. Therefore, being concerned with the sense objects is the cause of bondage. And this again is because of 'bheda-prasakti', the sense of distinction of duality. Perception of plurality implies constant contemplation of the world of objects. What is the truth? The truth is that the Atman alone abides. Brahman alone is true, and we are Brahman. Yet, we forget this and descend to a lower level, to our lower self, and identify ourselves with the body and mind. Then naturally desires come.
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I BELIEVE SPIRIT HAS BEEN TRYING TO HELP MY COMPANION AND I TO WHERE WE ARE GOING AND I'VE BEEN STANDING IN MY OWN WAY

THOSE WHO READ MY DISCUSSION. IDEAS WOULD BE APPRECIATED FOR FURTHER EGO ANNIHILATION.

OR DO YOU PEOPLE REPRESENT MY EGO EXTERNALIZED.

DOES THIS WORLD REPRESENT MY EGO EXTERNALIZED?

IS MERGING THIS WORLD BACK INTO ONE ABOUT COMPLETE EGO ANNILIHATION?

OF COURSE IT IS...SHIT

I'M NOT SURE ANY OF YOU CAN HELP BUT PLEASE GIVE IDEAS HOW I CAN SMASH MY EGO...TOTAL ANNIHILATION..

PLEASE ONE STAR MY DISCUSSION FOR STARTERS

TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME. I WANT TO HEAR ALL MY SHORTCOMINGS
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How about transcend it instead of kill it?

hmm

Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 04/28/2014 08:28 PM
To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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How about transcend it instead of kill it?

hmm
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my issues are 3-fold:

1) sensory pleasure = masturbation, food, drink

But at the same time, if we go on fulfilling the endless desires of the body and the mind, then liberation is not possible. As has been pointed out in the Vivekachudamani, the sleeping man is not awake. Who is this sleeping man? One who is attached to the body, one not conscious of his own divine nature. On the other hand, the one who is seeking the Truth, who is conscious of his divine nature, who has been able to root out the false identification with the body-mind complex - for him there is no bondage. He is a Jeevanmukta. So these two states are contradictory.

[link to www.eng.vedanta.ru]

2) attachment to my companion

Thomas Haemmerlin further says that we are to become pure. How can we be pure? To quote him: 'Entangle not thy heart to any creature. Thy beloved is of the nature that He will admit no rival. He would like to occupy the heart alone.' If we are devotees of, say Sri Krishna, Sri Ramachandra or Sri Ramakrishna, the heart must be cleared of all impurities and emptied of various attachments to persons. If we want the vision of our beloved Ishtam, then, as Thomas says, He must occupy the throne of our heart alone. He does not admit of any rival. Then naturally a question may be asked, 'We are surrounded by relatives, mother, husband, wife, children and so many kinds of acquaintances. What are we to do?' Yes, we can love them all but we should try to see our beloved Ishtam in all. Our whole love should be only for our Ishtam. We should see our Rama, our Krishna, our Ramakrishna in everybody and then we are saved. But if we get attached to the body-mind complex, which is not going to last, we shall be forgetting that we are the eternally free spirit. If we get attached to a particular person, i.e., a body, then we are caught in ignorance, and there will be no liberation for us. That is the reason why it has been said, 'Entangle not your heart with any creature.'

[link to www.eng.vedanta.ru]

3) CONCEPTUALIZING...CONCEPTS CONCEPTS CONCEPTS...IN OTHER WORDS I NEED TO STFU AND GO SILENT

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getting clarity perhaps

friend of mine from Illinois wrote

he is a strict Christian

he told me GOD wanted him to write to me

i keep getting the GOD scripting.

got it with a homeless black guy last night

i really don't wanna be anything like that

i don't want that

i'm unimportant

i'm nothing

i'm a nobody

i just want out of this world. it isn't a fit.

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let me tell you something

the solar eclipse means nothing

it's all bullshit

and even if it means something to you the 'IT' that scripts this world MIGHT give you confirmation of that belief to lure you into a beLIEf trap.

same as law of attraction bullshit. 'IT' will give you 1 or 2 'cookies' to lure you down that rabbit hole. you'll forever be chasing law of attraction nonsense

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As you can see, there was no event, just fake stuff & well scripted shills as predicted.

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let me tell you something

the solar eclipse means nothing

it's all bullshit

and even if it means something to you the 'IT' that scripts this world MIGHT give you confirmation of that belief to lure you into a beLIEf trap.

same as law of attraction bullshit. 'IT' will give you 1 or 2 'cookies' to lure you down that rabbit hole. you'll forever be chasing law of attraction nonsense

 Quoting: op (no name) 16133333


As you can see, there was no event, just fake stuff & well scripted shills as predicted.

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yep

GLP is about MAKING THIS WORLD REAL WHEN IT'S NOT REAL

look at the discussions

it's all about promoting duality/polarity or waiting for this or that

nothing ever happens until it does but the waiting is the trap

pumping differences on GLP is the name of the game because that keeps you from your True State which is balance
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GLP and this world represents my fat EGO

EGO = separation = duality/polarity/craziness/sex/love/beliefs/egoic/body identification/gender/sexual preference/black/white blah blah blah

EGO IS THE FALLEN STATE

ego annihilation = back to perfect balance

the EGO is the problem

YOU WANT OUT OF THIS WORLD YOU HAVE TO DUMP THE EGO. EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY IN THIS WORLD REPRESENTS THE EGO.

TO DUMP EGO IS TO DUMP WEIGHTS ON A HOT AIR BALLOON

that's why i got the Messiah scripting...to trap me via the EGO

I'M A NOTHING. I'M A NOBODY. I'M UNIMPORTANT
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To live is to believe in the power of dreams.
To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".