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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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Here it is illustrated in exquisite detail

[link to www.iww.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1368064


The system doesn't matter. It's just a storyline.

Whether communist, capitalist or socialist...doesn't matter.

All scripted b.s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


Thes are just different "experiments." "They" want to see how each "experiment" ends, after a given amount of time.
Not that complicated, actually. Just impose different variables....e.g. racial characteristics, governmental rules and demands, stress factors, food supply, environmental interaction, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374254


Yeah but don't you see....it's just an illusionary storyline

IT DOESN'T MATTER. The storyline doesn't matter!
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My point was that this illusion has a scripted storyline
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Why would an illusion need a scripted storyline?

lala
 Quoting: Aleilius


to keep the Illusion alive...
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hf

Does an illusion need life?
 Quoting: Aleilius


not when I(you) are life!
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IT DOESN'T MATTER. The storyline doesn't matter!
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It doesn't matter because it doesn't exist. It was all a dream in the eye of the beholder.

hf
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Hilarious you should say that. I have been given rather obscenely obvious messages about the magus, to make me THINK I might be such, when actually, other messages tell me I am the Joker. In other words, I am nothing.
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Maya, the Magus, and the Joker are one. They are three in one, and one in three. You are both the product, and the producer.

Again, don't listen to me, or even acknowledge me. I'm the shunned one.
 Quoting: Aleilius


Yeah I get it.

I'm the movie director watching myself on screen.

That's a nice way of looking at it. A theory and a possibility.

But maybe it's not the way that it is.

Maybe some sick fuck entity is giving us this nauseating existence.

Maybe we're a ONE MIND or consciousness that is robotically "pooping out" scenes and we're the ONE playing all roles
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Maybe, and maybe you are the sick entity?
 Quoting: Aleilius


Well yeah didn't I say that already..
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Maya, the Magus, and the Joker are one. They are three in one, and one in three. You are both the product, and the producer.

Again, don't listen to me, or even acknowledge me. I'm the shunned one.
 Quoting: Aleilius


Yeah I get it.

I'm the movie director watching myself on screen.

That's a nice way of looking at it. A theory and a possibility.

But maybe it's not the way that it is.

Maybe some sick fuck entity is giving us this nauseating existence.

Maybe we're a ONE MIND or consciousness that is robotically "pooping out" scenes and we're the ONE playing all roles
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


Maybe, and maybe you are the sick entity?
 Quoting: Aleilius


Well yeah didn't I say that already..
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Perhaps you did, and perhaps I felt I needed to reiterate it?
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Time is an illusion. This is the pure materialistic route that some are taking.
 Quoting: Aleilius


What makes you think time is an illusion?
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What makes you think it is "real?"
 Quoting: Aleilius


Time is definitely an illusion. 10 days now seems like 2days for me. Time is super fast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


well yes, it sped up...notice your nails growing faster...your fruits ripening sooner than normal, and if you are a lady, you will notice your eyebrows need plucking everyday!
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No point asking when it's scripted! "May I" doesn't change the script!
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if it does not, then neither does thinking the impossible, or unimaginable etc....anything is possible or impossible;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Yeah but what if this PC (Program Controller) has given you the appearance you can do magic? What if the PC gives you that ability? Like say I told you I was thinking of a computer and it appeared in a room in my house.

And then let's say the PC turned off that ability and you were left hanging and you know the story is scripted predictable shit and you aren't able to control where your story goes. Your PC showed you the computer appear out of nowhere and you know it's possible but yet you are in the "driver's seat" and are subject to storyline constraints.

It's tedious.
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well, I guess it's what you believe....and how you ask;-)
and to have a Faith in what you believe.....you know the old saying, be careful what you ask for....dreams are made to come true!
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Yeah but "beliefs are a dime a dozen" and meaningless because WHAT IS is the only important thing.

"Beliefs are like assholes"...everyone has one. WHAT IS is what is important and that's it!

Faith is useless shit and the mind playing tricks
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My point was that this illusion has a scripted storyline
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209

Why would an illusion need a scripted storyline?

lala
 Quoting: Aleilius


So people will believe it...appparently, this is an important variable. Belief...:)
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It will only happen when it's scripted and in the time alloted by the PC (Program Controller)

You and everyone will do as scripted.

I just want to return to the cave and not see what I see but I can't go back.
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I guess it's in the script then isn't it?
 Quoting: Awakened


I believe everything I think, feel , believe and do is scripted...

At this moment in time I just watch the predictable storyline and the characters around me reacting in confusion because I'm not buying into the program anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209



OP earlier you cited anticipating market crash in '99 as evidence of a script. Seems like you are going along the same lines again, and I asked this earlier with no response...

What's your point with the 9/11 stuff? It's not like there was an absence of signs of impending trouble outside of the 9/11 conspiracy. Fiat monetary system, asset bubbles, bail outs, ruckus in Congress, stolen elections. Are you surprised that you have intuition or reasoning abilities? Maybe you are just feeling a little cognitive dissonance with the world because you spend more time analyzing and anticipating.

Also, anyone with a little intellectual heaviness and the vaguest interest in markets knew a crash was on the way in '99. I mean you even had irrational exuberance captain #1 fretting about exuberance. Not sure how old you are, but I was 11 or so in '99 and the shit was plain to see to me.
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It's one of many incidences I have that prove to me this is a scripted illusion. I've had many. One I pictured exactly as it happened a couple hours later. It was freaky.

Scripted shit I'm telling ya!

I know people want to believe they matter and their "choices" matter but it's all scripted shit!
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Also...think of this...if no human existed on this planet...would this planet exist? Certainly NOT in any human PERSPECTIVE.
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My point was that this illusion has a scripted storyline
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209

Why would an illusion need a scripted storyline?

lala
 Quoting: Aleilius


Just like holodek on Star Trek sort of. You write a script and send yourself back into a character role to play that set role.
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if it does not, then neither does thinking the impossible, or unimaginable etc....anything is possible or impossible;-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Yeah but what if this PC (Program Controller) has given you the appearance you can do magic? What if the PC gives you that ability? Like say I told you I was thinking of a computer and it appeared in a room in my house.

And then let's say the PC turned off that ability and you were left hanging and you know the story is scripted predictable shit and you aren't able to control where your story goes. Your PC showed you the computer appear out of nowhere and you know it's possible but yet you are in the "driver's seat" and are subject to storyline constraints.

It's tedious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


well, I guess it's what you believe....and how you ask;-)
and to have a Faith in what you believe.....you know the old saying, be careful what you ask for....dreams are made to come true!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Yeah but "beliefs are a dime a dozen" and meaningless because WHAT IS is the only important thing.

"Beliefs are like assholes"...everyone has one. WHAT IS is what is important and that's it!

Faith is useless shit and the mind playing tricks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


Thats your illusion....maybe you should ask why your script was written that way?
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You are driving a car(life), there are many roads to choose from but you can't possibly know if the script contains you changing from one road to another.

You think you can fool the script by making an U-turn, but actually, it is written on the script that you make that turn.

The illusion here is, that you don't have as many choises as you have roads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325291


You only have the "appearance of choice". There is no choice. It's scripted. Everything you think, say, do or believe is scripted shit. The people around you are scripted also

If you think you hold the power you're deluding yourself.

And when I say YOU I'm talking about the character YOU that you're playing in this illusion
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I guess it's in the script then isn't it?
 Quoting: Awakened


I believe everything I think, feel , believe and do is scripted...

At this moment in time I just watch the predictable storyline and the characters around me reacting in confusion because I'm not buying into the program anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209



OP earlier you cited anticipating market crash in '99 as evidence of a script. Seems like you are going along the same lines again, and I asked this earlier with no response...

What's your point with the 9/11 stuff? It's not like there was an absence of signs of impending trouble outside of the 9/11 conspiracy. Fiat monetary system, asset bubbles, bail outs, ruckus in Congress, stolen elections. Are you surprised that you have intuition or reasoning abilities? Maybe you are just feeling a little cognitive dissonance with the world because you spend more time analyzing and anticipating.

Also, anyone with a little intellectual heaviness and the vaguest interest in markets knew a crash was on the way in '99. I mean you even had irrational exuberance captain #1 fretting about exuberance. Not sure how old you are, but I was 11 or so in '99 and the shit was plain to see to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373791


It's one of many incidences I have that prove to me this is a scripted illusion. I've had many. One I pictured exactly as it happened a couple hours later. It was freaky.

Scripted shit I'm telling ya!

I know people want to believe they matter and their "choices" matter but it's all scripted shit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


Actually, I'm 90% sure what you say is actually the truth. That's the only way to explain obama and bush junior....LMAO
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they wrote a mustard seed in my script...:-)


yeeeehawwww
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My point was that this illusion has a scripted storyline
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209

Why would an illusion need a scripted storyline?

lala
 Quoting: Aleilius


to keep the Illusion alive...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Actually it could be that we've trapped ourselves in illusion to avoid remembering that we are NO-THING and don't exist? It's possible. We create character roles so we can delude ourselves into existing...it's possible
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Have been waiting for this question to be presented with no avail. OP how did you start to see through the illusions script?
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Who is the great magician who makes the grass green?
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It's irrelevant that I predicted that in 1999

My point was that this illusion has a scripted storyline

That was the point
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Ok, I thought the foresight was evidence or reason why you feel it is scripted. You are not making that connection?
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It is evidence amongst alot of evidence I have
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by the script...Lucifer gets thrown in the Lake of Fire!

if it is by script only, why the appeal?
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Lucifer or Santa Claus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


Look, you can call it whatever you like, but I have ALWAYS had the Illusion that things would finally be made right by those very ones who made the wrong.....
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Careful with your mind/ego. It will trick and deceive.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
restraints egzyst but you do have control to a persentage.
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What makes you think time is an illusion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373791


What makes you think it is "real?"
 Quoting: Aleilius


Time is definitely an illusion. 10 days now seems like 2days for me. Time is super fast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


well yes, it sped up...notice your nails growing faster...your fruits ripening sooner than normal, and if you are a lady, you will notice your eyebrows need plucking everyday!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Hey there are alot of us males that pluck our eyebrows because if we don't we look funny...and yes I could swear I just did it yesterday but damn I've got to pluck them again!
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Also...think of this...if no human existed on this planet...would this planet exist? Certainly NOT in any human PERSPECTIVE.
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yep
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I believe everything I think, feel , believe and do is scripted...

At this moment in time I just watch the predictable storyline and the characters around me reacting in confusion because I'm not buying into the program anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209



OP earlier you cited anticipating market crash in '99 as evidence of a script. Seems like you are going along the same lines again, and I asked this earlier with no response...

What's your point with the 9/11 stuff? It's not like there was an absence of signs of impending trouble outside of the 9/11 conspiracy. Fiat monetary system, asset bubbles, bail outs, ruckus in Congress, stolen elections. Are you surprised that you have intuition or reasoning abilities? Maybe you are just feeling a little cognitive dissonance with the world because you spend more time analyzing and anticipating.

Also, anyone with a little intellectual heaviness and the vaguest interest in markets knew a crash was on the way in '99. I mean you even had irrational exuberance captain #1 fretting about exuberance. Not sure how old you are, but I was 11 or so in '99 and the shit was plain to see to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373791


It's one of many incidences I have that prove to me this is a scripted illusion. I've had many. One I pictured exactly as it happened a couple hours later. It was freaky.

Scripted shit I'm telling ya!

I know people want to believe they matter and their "choices" matter but it's all scripted shit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


Actually, I'm 90% sure what you say is actually the truth. That's the only way to explain obama and bush junior....LMAO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374254


HAHAHAHA

It's nauseating..I don't watch TV or read newspapers but the Bin Laden nonsense got to my ears and it's nauseating stupid storyline shit that I don't wanna hear...
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Have been waiting for this question to be presented with no avail. OP how did you start to see through the illusions script?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325291


It just started happening years ago. Didn't have to do a damn thing.

What helps is to observe everyone and everything around you and you'll notice the flaws in the script. You'll notice how there are little clues you leave yourself.

Most people are so busy they don't observe. I've spent my life observing..
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Who is the great magician who makes the grass green?
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Yes WHO indeed lol
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Who is the great magician who makes the grass green?
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Yes WHO indeed lol
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You are.

lala
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restraints egzyst but you do have control to a persentage.
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Or are you deluding yourself into believing that you have control? It takes a strong person to realize they're not in control. People always want to "be in the driver's seat" or in control. The alternative scares them.

It doesn't scare me. Just pisses me off!!
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restraints egzyst but you do have control to a persentage.
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Or are you deluding yourself into believing that you have control? It takes a strong person to realize they're not in control. People always want to "be in the driver's seat" or in control. The alternative scares them.

It doesn't scare me. Just pisses me off!!
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Perhaps you are deluding yourself into believing you have no control? Perhaps that's part of believing in the illusion?

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