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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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I'm happy that you are happy T~



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Yes my brother Irv! Now I'm not surprised by your comment ;)

I do know you! ;)
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Good Question op
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Thanks!

Who or what controls this illusion = Me, Myself & I = Trinity = Father, Son and Holy Ghost = All of us = THE ONE = ME

Now let's have some fun damnit!
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We are Kings........you know this already


This girl "wildhoney" looks goooooooood

"wildhoney", are you the love of my life?????



Interesting,this video just released yesterday
Look at all the energy and lights
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It seems everyone of us are beautiful & powerful

like T~





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Mother says... "I want never gets."
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Not True - I've created many things I've wanted in my life.
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and did you also create the things that you didn't want in your life?
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WARNING! Elites trying to suppress the latest scientific knowledge:




Earthquakes, Solar Flares and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! all life vibrates and everything in nature to, and we now know that nothing is by chance, we have precise mathematical equations to describe this!

It comes from scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes.

His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4425332


LOL
wthread
 Quoting: (OP) 4603000


Not really, as someone pretty smart has posted the background of that whole story:

Elites trying to suppress the greatest scientific discovery in 1000 years -- The Secret Of The Universe Cracked:


I don't know how many of you have heard, but the greatest scientific discovery of all time has been made a few years ago. The government is holding this info back from us.

Earthquakes, Solar Flares, and all sorts of astrophysical phenomena are due to Hyperesonancy theory -- the most important science for us on earth.

All life vibrates and everything in nature does so too. We now know that this is not by chance, as we have mathematical equations to describe it. Those equations are accurate to 39 decimal places!

It all comes from a Bosnian scientist who also discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ quakes. His increase-peak-decrease pattern in 6+ quakes now proves this theory beyond any doubt.

His name is Dr. Mensur Omerbashich and he is European nobility. American and British governments stole his patents and threatened this scientist's life.

I don't want to spam here, so type his site URL: s e i s m o . i n f o



From an interview (y o w u s a . c o m):

"Your hyperresonator equations also challenge the validity of Einstein's General Relativity theory and Planck's Quantum Physics. As a former geologist for the Berkeley National Laboratory in California and the Geophysics Institute of Hungary in Budapest, how have your peers responded to your hyperresonator equations?
- Hyperresonator equations do not simply challenge, but immediately invalidate both Einstein's General Relativity and Planck's Quantum Physics theory as fundamentally flawed. Newton’s assumption on constancy of G, and the faked "physical units" he attached thereupon to G only in order to close his theory physically as well as mathematically, have made his theory obviously flawed to begin with. By accepting this fundamental flaw, Einstein made his own theory of general relativity a mere alternative (Riemannian-geometry) description of the Newton’s theory. Adding a new member into the Newton’s equation in order to account for higher order terms has not changed the elementary flaw, as Einstein never altered G. There are no physical units in the hyperresonator equations – just proportions and scales, that is, all quantities are either unitless, or they carry derived units only. And, as I already mentioned, there is no explicit dependency on time or space or time-space, meaning the equations describe a fundamental principle. "


I could write more but this should be enough for now.
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Mother says... "I want never gets."
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Not True - I've created many things I've wanted in my life.
 Quoting: T~ (OP) 4603000

and did you also create the things that you didn't want in your life?
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Yes but that's because I was focusing on those things and they had an emotional 'charge' which made them more dominant.

It's like this. I chose (a) but don't trust myself so I create (b) as a backup. But what ends up happening is (b) becomes dominant.

Let's say I choose (a) to create money out of 'thin air' but then I say (b) if I don't get money I'm gonna do this or that.

If (b) has a great "charge" to it the focus shifts off of (a) and (b) becomes dominaant and fucks up the process.

Ultimately I can't do anything wrong because my Expanded Self "has my back". It always has. Like Bob says this process only happens if your ES wants you getting 'magick'. Otherwise it won't happen!

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We are Kings........you know this already


This girl "wildhoney" looks goooooooood

"wildhoney", are you the love of my life?????



Interesting,this video just released yesterday
Look at all the energy and lights
; )


It seems everyone of us are beautiful & powerful

like T~





Irv >
 Quoting: Irv


I don't look at myself as a KING though others have sort of referred to me as a KING in indirect ways

What it is is my Expanded Self has given me "glimpses through the cloud cover" and it's not the norm so we call it "magick"

That doesn't make me a KING it just is a "different ride" is all. I'm going on a "different ride" than most people.

I want to say this process isn't about "EGO" at all. Ego is fine and dandy and that's just another distraction to focus on making it less or whatever (popular in Eastern religions). My point is creating things out of thin air is kewl but it's only when your Expanded Self "wants you on that ride".

The last thing someone in my position cares about is whether I'm such "hot stuff" because I can create things in the hologram out of thin air.. That's not what this is about.

It's just about experiencing a "different ride" (as Bob says)
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WARNING! Elites trying to suppress the latest scientific knowledge:




Earthquakes, Solar Flares and all sorts of stuff are all because of Hyperesonancy theory this is the only important science for us on earth!! all life vibrates and everything in nature to, and we now know that nothing is by chance, we have precise mathematical equations to describe this!

It comes from scientist who discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ earthquakes.

His name is Dr. Omerbashich and American goverment stole his patents and threatened his life! We come from the same country :)

His site:
[link to seismo.info]


Scroll in the top images a few sections left or right for his hyperesonancy equations -- He cancels Einstein and Newton with these equations, US Gov stole his patents and sent SWAT teams to harass this scientist, police pulled him over 100s times at gunpoint, banksters elite keep visiting his site to get info which makes it easy for them to bet on insurance markets as Omerbashich tells when there will be NO killing quakes which is more than half year of safe betting for this scumbags:

WELLS FARGO, NATL COMMERCIAL BANK OF SAUDI ARABIA, ROYAL BANK OF CANADA, FIDELITY INVESTMENTS, EATON CORP, CITICORP, CHICAGO MERCANTILE EXCHANGE, METLIFE, NEWMONT GOLD CO, BANCA FIDAURAM, ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TORONTO DOMINION BANK, BARCLAYS CAPITAL, BANCO BRADESCO, INTERAMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK, CHEVRON CORP, PERSHING CORP, PETROBRAS,BANK OF AMERICA, ZURICH AMERICAN INSURANCE CO, VISA INTERNATIONL, CREDIT SUISSE GROUP, BROWN BROS HARRIMAN, PICTET CIE, ENI, INTESA SISTEMI, FORRESTER-BRIM,SAUDI ARABIAN OIL CO. ,AMERIPRISE FINANCIAL, CAMBRIDGE ASSOCAITES.... ( this list is not final,credit: inventor's blog [link to sites.google.com] )

Obviously they not undeducated, they all went to ivy league schools and represent cream de la cream of world finances ohyeah


His interview:
[link to yowusa.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4425332


LOL
wthread
 Quoting: (OP) 4603000


Not really, as someone pretty smart has posted the background of that whole story:

Elites trying to suppress the greatest scientific discovery in 1000 years -- The Secret Of The Universe Cracked:


I don't know how many of you have heard, but the greatest scientific discovery of all time has been made a few years ago. The government is holding this info back from us.

Earthquakes, Solar Flares, and all sorts of astrophysical phenomena are due to Hyperesonancy theory -- the most important science for us on earth.

All life vibrates and everything in nature does so too. We now know that this is not by chance, as we have mathematical equations to describe it. Those equations are accurate to 39 decimal places!

It all comes from a Bosnian scientist who also discovered that astro alignments cause 6+ quakes. His increase-peak-decrease pattern in 6+ quakes now proves this theory beyond any doubt.

His name is Dr. Mensur Omerbashich and he is European nobility. American and British governments stole his patents and threatened this scientist's life.

I don't want to spam here, so type his site URL: s e i s m o . i n f o



From an interview (y o w u s a . c o m):

"Your hyperresonator equations also challenge the validity of Einstein's General Relativity theory and Planck's Quantum Physics. As a former geologist for the Berkeley National Laboratory in California and the Geophysics Institute of Hungary in Budapest, how have your peers responded to your hyperresonator equations?
- Hyperresonator equations do not simply challenge, but immediately invalidate both Einstein's General Relativity and Planck's Quantum Physics theory as fundamentally flawed. Newton’s assumption on constancy of G, and the faked "physical units" he attached thereupon to G only in order to close his theory physically as well as mathematically, have made his theory obviously flawed to begin with. By accepting this fundamental flaw, Einstein made his own theory of general relativity a mere alternative (Riemannian-geometry) description of the Newton’s theory. Adding a new member into the Newton’s equation in order to account for higher order terms has not changed the elementary flaw, as Einstein never altered G. There are no physical units in the hyperresonator equations – just proportions and scales, that is, all quantities are either unitless, or they carry derived units only. And, as I already mentioned, there is no explicit dependency on time or space or time-space, meaning the equations describe a fundamental principle. "


I could write more but this should be enough for now.
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Honestly I really shouldn't be talking to "characters" in my hologram but I will until such time as I don't anymore.

To talk of science in illusion is inanity because the instruments are illusionary and so is what is measured.

We are all contained within the illusion so we can never "see it" from outside so we can never really know how it functions.

Simplify. It's a projection of the "ONE MIND" just like a movie projector. That's all!

In an illusion you can prove or disprove anything. That's the nature of something that isn't "real" LOL

I wanna repeat for people. Since this is an illusion there are NO LIMITS! unless you're in Phase I limitation which ultimately your ES decides!
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It's like this

I'm contained within a projection that isn't real (illusion). So let's say I'm a scientist within the storyline.

So me Mr. Scientist in the storyline who doesn't exist (remember I'm within the hologram and I'm also not real) is using instruments that don't exist to measure something that doesn't exist. LOL

Insanity right?

For some reason "characters" in the storyline don't get this even if I tell them a million times. That's why Bob simplifies things in his books and makes it all "physical and scientific" for those who don't get it.

IT's not that complicated. To talk of science to explain illusion = insanity

LOL
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And how do I know I'm in Bob's Phase II or Phase III?

Well at the last place I lived I developed a hernia. I didn't care about it at all. It was right above my groin. I told myself it would go away all by itself.

Now for someone in Phase I limitation it would have gotten worse and they'd have to go to the doctor to fix it right?

But what happened is it disappeared. No hernia anymore. I created it disappearing by saying it would go away. That stuff happens in my world because my ES wants me on that "ride". Simple as that!
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Yeah your an "illusion"
but what is the overall truth my friend?

......What if we do have free will?
What if some aspects in life,
you do have free will?


Everything you say is just what yourself "believeeeeeeeeee"
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T~

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Peace & Love is all you need at this place we all call

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Yeah your an "illusion"
but what is the overall truth my friend?

......What if we do have free will?
What if some aspects in life,
you do have free will?


Everything you say is just what yourself "believeeeeeeeeee"
Bryan
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~
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B~
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T~

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Peace & Love is all you need at this place we all call

"Life"
 Quoting: Irv


Irv,

Most likely is that we are this ONE CONSCIOUSNESS dreaming this world into existence. WE, as the ONE, have split ourselves off into many "characters" and are on different "rides in an amusement park"

Bob's description is best. Most people in this illusion are in Phase I and experiencing limitation...Maybe they're in a wheelchair or black or gay etc.etc. THE ONE wants to experience ALL ASPECTS at the same time through many differently characters. As an infinite being with unlimited powers what would be kewl? Experiencing limitation.

But for people like me in Phase II/Phase III we go from experiencing limitations to remembering who we really are and we get to the point of operating here without limitations.

Most likely people in Phase I have limited FREE WILL meaning they can choose what shirt they wear today. Because they are in a limitation phase.

Most likely people like myself in Phase II or III can basically do anything we want because we no longer are in limitation phase. We "sit in the driver's seat" with the ES.

Anymore conceptualizing or theorizing just gets you chasing your tail or gets you distracted down "rabbit holes" or "chasing carrots"
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What is there to do........
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What is there to do........
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Why do you feel the need to 'DO' anything?
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I encounter into many new theories in which everything changes into a different aspect of view of reality

.........what is the real truth is what I, Irv want to know

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What is there to do........
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Nothing... forever...
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How did Bill Gates become a billionaire in this illusion?


I'm looking for a job..........BILLIONAIRE IRV
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What is there to do........
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Nothing... forever...
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How did Bill Gates become a billionaire in this illusion?


I'm looking for a job..........BILLIONAIRE IRV
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I'll hire you as my personal driver when the funds come in ;)
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How did Bill Gates become a billionaire in this illusion?


I'm looking for a job..........BILLIONAIRE IRV
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I'll hire you as my personal driver when the funds come in ;)
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How did Bill Gates become a billionaire in this illusion?


I'm looking for a job..........BILLIONAIRE IRV
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I'll hire you as my personal driver when the funds come in ;)
 Quoting: T~ (OP) 4603000



......Your too old to be in the streets my friend

I'll come by and visit you in the old homes my friend
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LOL-Isn't it past your bedtime whippersnapper?
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Wanted to post something from a link. I'm not thrilled by the wording because it sounds a bit "new agey" and I'm also not comfortable using the term 'Ego' but would replace that with the term 'Character mind' (versus 'Higher mind'). But with what I'm going through the 'Character mind' needs to merge more and more with the 'Higher mind' which can create problems. Anyways below is what I pulled out. Just disregard the 'new agey sounding aspects'. If you wonder why I'm posting it it's because someone I know wants to leave this illusion. I think it's pointless because you just end up in another illusion infinitum and perhaps you just will keep repeating that cycle? I don't believe there are any consequences to anything you choose but I do believe that it's pointless because you can make your world better here so why bother 'killing yourself' to 'change your focus to another illusion' where you will possibly face the same 'challenges'? Anyways please remember I diffentiate between 2 minds. A 'Higher mind' and a 'Character mind'.

Ego - Friend or Foe
Your ego can be your best friend or worst enemy.... it can work for you in the world but against you in your spiritual life (and in this healing process). If it is the materially minded ego that is running your life, it must take the materially minded ego to finally choose to be reconnected to the higher self. The material ego will not easily or willingly surrender or relinquish this control and power until it reaches a point where it becomes aware of its immense limitations, being so dysfunctional and incapable of even "thinking its way out of a paper bag" (people in recovery programs speak of this). When the ego realizes its own powerlessness, and sees itself running your life into the ground (destroying you and everything and everyone around you)... when you have finally reached bottom and the only place you can go is up, only then is the ego ready to surrender and ask for and receive help from the Higher Power (since the ego must learn "Humility", this help often must be found through a human channel).


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The unspeakable.
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And what is that pray tell.
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Don't know.
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Cant handle the truth
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What WE all of us got to do is conceptualize on WHO put "us" in this "illusion."



How did Bill Gates become a billionaire in this illusion?


I'm looking for a job..........BILLIONAIRE IRV
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I'll hire you as my personal driver when the funds come in ;)
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......Your too old to be in the streets my friend

I'll come by and visit you in the old homes my friend
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LOL-Isn't it past your bedtime whippersnapper?
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Interesting,I'm thinking of being a caregiver in the local caregiver homes

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The unspeakable.
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And what is that pray tell.
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Don't know.
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Cant handle the truth
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The unspeakable means it cannot be spoken.

What "truth" anyway? Your truth perhaps?
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Any 'truth' people believe will be confirmed in their hologram.

If you are conflicted it will appear to be something outside of yourself.

If you don't know 'yourself' well enough you won't 'see' how the conflicted thinking is creating certain things.

If you're giving out mixed messages your world will be chaos and confusing.

Ultimately since this is an illusion then everything is ONE which means there is no separation which means 'I', 'ME' or 'You' are ONE and creating this world.

And to simplify... this hologram is a projection of my mind. My mind is the movie projector.

The three main human games played in this world is as Bob says:
1) limitation phase with limited 'free will' - 'little you/character role' appears separate from 'bigger you/Expanded Self' (Bob's Phase I)
2) rediscovering who you really are which is an 'infinite being' with unlimited abilities - get 'glimpses through the cloud cover' - mixture of zero limitations but still limitations to some degree (Phase II)
3) Human game without limitations. Your want/desires are in harmony with your 'Expanded Self/bigger You'. Meaning your 'egoic/character mind' is more in harmony with your 'Higher mind/Expanded self'. Zero limitations baby! TO GET TO THIS POINT YOU MUST KNOW 'YOURSELF' INSIDE/OUT AND YOU MUST BE IN NEUTRALITY AND TREAT ALL EXPERIENCES AS EQUAL.

Ultimately your 'Expanded self' is you (just a bigger YOU)

ULTIMATELY THERE IS NO POWER GREATER THAN YOURSELF. I AM THE POWER IN MY WORLD. I AM THE POWERS-THAT-BE.
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Just do good........and get good back
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Just do good........and get good back
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Who's to say what's good though?
Is there such a thing as "good"?
Perhaps it's just an arbitrary value we place onto things?
I don't know.

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