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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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so WTF am i doing in this world anymore?


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It’s not just about you.

We’re all in this together.

We are all in different positions.

The script won’t change until everyone is ready.

Good time to work on the quality of patience.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
this trap world is all about characters being hypnotized and entranced by the illusions presented.

this world is a trap world of "IT"....

that's why for me to talk to bots is pointless because they're still hypnotized by the illusions....like i said if you still resonate with your given name you have an "ego helmet". ego is sense-of-identification or who you think you are. egoic mind is part of trap like intellectualism. it maintains the trance state and keeps bots hypnotized.

you see "IT" will just keep presenting shit to you. like somehow i need to "save everybody" who is trapped here lol...that's just another TRAP...because i would be endlessly busy if i would do that...

characters need to save themselves...only they can "unplug" themselves from the trance state or hypnotic state.

my partner and i were already different in childhood. i didn't buy into the illusions. i thought the mythological stories of religion was bullshit as a child. i used to refuse to say the "pledge of allegiance" to the flag as a child in school because i thought it was stupid. i knew as a child i was different than the bots around me because they seemed like "walking dead"...but it's because they are like "borg hive mind" in trance or hypnotic state. they buy into the illusions presented.

just take new ager and try to convince them there is no new earth. they will get nasty and want to rip your head off. why? 'cause when you tell them it's bullshit you threaten their egoic sense-of-identification. you wake them up from hynotic or trance state. they'll defend egoic beLIEfs to the death (of the ego). that's why it's pointless to try and wake people up. they need to do it themselves.

beLIEfs NEVER finalize because this is a trap world. you are the Pavlovian dog being manipulated and controlled. because like a dog you have things you want and don't want. "IT" is Pavlov and you are the dog. that's why the word god = dog. godlikeproductions = doglikeproductions.

it offers the "carrots" and "rabbit holes" so you keep "chasing your tail" around in circles. you got lost in illusion. trance. hypnotic state.
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so here are my suggestions for all of you out there lol:

1) stop reading any news or watching any television
2) stop watching any movies
3) don't buy into any DOOM or arrests or new earth/rapture nonsense. anything where you have to wait is a trap
4) disconnect from others and become an observer. real eyes everything around you is NOT REAL and it's all LIES
5) learn not to react to anything.
6) stop watching porn, masturbating or having sex
7) realize "love" is an illusion and sold to you for a reason...it's an "opium" like booze or drugs...designed to keep you in a trance/hynotic state.
8) realize your emotions are NOT REAL. they are being fed to you. your natural state does NOT include sadness, anger or fear.
9) disconnect from everything and anything in this world. NO-THING IS REAL
10) stop wanting anything including money
11) stop NOT wanting anything like homelessness or poverty or whatever
12) try to toss ALL beLIEfs because they all lead to nowhere


Bob's tools are great to remind you of the "TRUTH". so anytime you're buying into the illusion or you want something or you're reacting use his tools. forget getting magick or zero limitations or money because those are TRAPS.

i'm an infinite being creating the illusion of ____________. it's NOT REAL. it's a projection of my consciousness. i reclaim my power from the illusion of ___________. by reclaiming my power from it i feel my power coming back to me, i feel my power surging in me. i feel myself expanding more and more and expressing myself more and more as the infinite being that i am. i really appreciate creating the illusion of ____________.

the whole point in Bob's tools is to remind yourself of the "TRUTH" which is that none of this is real.

Bob's agenda was to get zero limitations and money.

forget having any attachment to outcome.

the only thing you want to do is remind yourself that none of this is real. it's a fake world. everything is an illusion designed to trap your consciousness.

dying is not real. needing food is a lie. needing money is a lie.

don't allow "IT" to control you or manipulate you. remember "IT" controls the minds/feelings and actions of everyone around you.

key to remember is this world is fake and NOT REAL.

everything within this world is a TRAP. even your senses EVERYTHING!!!!!!

your ultimate goal is to "pull your consciousness" out of this world or at least to become aware enough that you won't be TRAPPED anymore. once you can "SEE" beyond the illusions you are free.

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EVERYTHING IS A TRAP AND I MEAN EVERYTHING!
 Quoting: nn(op) 10875142

Including everything you've written.


your ultimate goal is to "pull your consciousness" out of this world or at least to become aware enough that you won't be TRAPPED anymore. once you can "SEE" beyond the illusions you are free.
 Quoting: nn(OP) 10875142

Do not believe a word OP says... IT'S A TRAP. He's trying to manipulate you.

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like i said if you still resonate with your given name you have an "ego helmet".
ego is sense-of-identification or who you think you are.
egoic mind is part of trap like intellectualism. it maintains the trance state and keeps bots hypnotized.
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Is it? Well, I don't share your definition of ego, I'm not sure if other people would either.

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Ego is Latin for "I".

So isn't every time you say "I" then your ego?

Which would make this passage very egoic...

i'm an infinite being creating the illusion of ____________. it's NOT REAL. it's a projection of my consciousness. i reclaim my power from the illusion of ___________. by reclaiming my power from it i feel my power coming back to me, i feel my power surging in me. i feel myself expanding more and more and expressing myself more and more as the infinite being that i am.
 Quoting: nn(OP) 10875142


i really appreciate creating the illusion of ____________.
 Quoting: nn(OP) 10875142

separateness?

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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
i already figured this out 2 years ago...

the difference between myself and bots is the bots are still "plugged in" so they return here. i am already "unplugged" so when i "die" i still have this consciousness and can't be tricked into coming back.
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Ego.
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I do. Having fun yet?

It will get a lot better, sooner than you think.

Enjoy.
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you know already back in the mid-2000s i was going on about the Puppet Masters pulling our puppet strings. i used to read the stuff from Alan Watt and "cutting through the matrix" because i could see how we all were being manipulated. plato's allegory of the cave obviously is a good example.

anyways i never real eyes'd it was on such a grand level though. not the little conspiracy stories but on a higher level...this "force" or "IT" or "Expandedself" or "God" or whatever it is

but i could see the mind control and programming a long time ago already...for example like with Rockefeller foundation funding Gloria Steinem to get woman out of the home. why? to get at children's minds at a young age. i could see that stuff already at a young age...

i used to beLIEve it was a conspiracy of hidden families who have been controlling for a long long time but now i real eyes it's this "force" or "IT"....which operates at a level way beyond conspiracies...

so anyways we got an email from someone yesterday with a place that is on a street that is named after a place we've wanted to go....this character has a website with an interesting name but i'm not gonna disclose that...but you wouldn't believe it if i told you...the website doesn't work but the name is interesting..

anyways we have a place to go but no money yet to go there...whatever

we're so sick of what we're going through. it's not worth it anymore...yeah we can "SEE" things and the sensory stuff is kinda kewl but the rest sucks...it's sooooo not worth it anymore to be going through this...we've paid a huge price for what? we aren't willing to put up with this for much longer...i'm not willing to live like this for much longer
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so here are my suggestions for all of you out there lol:

1) stop reading any news or watching any television
2) stop watching any movies
3) don't buy into any DOOM or arrests or new earth/rapture nonsense. anything where you have to wait is a trap
4) disconnect from others and become an observer. real eyes everything around you is NOT REAL and it's all LIES
5) learn not to react to anything.
6) stop watching porn, masturbating or having sex
7) realize "love" is an illusion and sold to you for a reason...it's an "opium" like booze or drugs...designed to keep you in a trance/hynotic state.
8) realize your emotions are NOT REAL. they are being fed to you. your natural state does NOT include sadness, anger or fear.
9) disconnect from everything and anything in this world. NO-THING IS REAL
10) stop wanting anything including money
11) stop NOT wanting anything like homelessness or poverty or whatever
12) try to toss ALL beLIEfs because they all lead to nowhere

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OP wants you to become a robot, then you'll be just like him.
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so here are my suggestions for all of you out there lol:

1) stop reading any news or watching any television
2) stop watching any movies
3) don't buy into any DOOM or arrests or new earth/rapture nonsense. anything where you have to wait is a trap
4) disconnect from others and become an observer. real eyes everything around you is NOT REAL and it's all LIES
5) learn not to react to anything.
6) stop watching porn, masturbating or having sex
7) realize "love" is an illusion and sold to you for a reason...it's an "opium" like booze or drugs...designed to keep you in a trance/hynotic state.
8) realize your emotions are NOT REAL. they are being fed to you. your natural state does NOT include sadness, anger or fear.
9) disconnect from everything and anything in this world. NO-THING IS REAL
10) stop wanting anything including money
11) stop NOT wanting anything like homelessness or poverty or whatever
12) try to toss ALL beLIEfs because they all lead to nowhere
 Quoting: nn(OP) 10875142


You give us your suggestions to follow, and then you say...

we're so sick of what we're going through
it's not worth it anymore
we've paid a huge price for what?
we aren't willing to put up with this for much longer
i'm not willing to live like this for much longer

 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142


So why would we follow your suggestions if they've left you feeling like that?
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You also suggest we toss ALL beLIEfs, but there are many beliefs in your suggestions, such as...


anything where you have to wait is a trap
 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142

your belief


everything around you is NOT REAL and it's all LIES
 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142

your belief


"love" is an illusion... designed to keep you in a trance/hynotic state
 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142

your belief


your emotions are NOT REAL. they are being fed to you
 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142

your belief


your natural state does NOT include sadness, anger or fear
 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142

your belief
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your natural state does NOT include sadness, anger or fear.
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That sounds more like a robot's natural state to me.
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i'm lucky to have my partner who shares the same experiences and sensory indications.

it's so strange to see the bots around us like caricatures or almost like cartoon characters running around like "chickens with their heads cut off"...they're fake....fake love..fake caring...fake everything...completely unconscious and not giving a shit about anyone but themselves for the most part...

that's what i told you all before. when people go to funerals they cry for themselves...it isn't about the person that died. lol

nobody can understand the world of my partner and i unless they can truly "SEE" what i'm talking about. i'm sharing my experiences and sensory indications and using what's available to describe it. to truly "SEE" you need to have pulled out of your character role or avatar.

you see it's almost as if there are 2 minds. an egoic character mind and one that is almost like a "river". now people with an "ego helmet" have the egoic character mind. they use intellect and compartmentalize everything..

the mind now my partner and i have now is empty...almost like a "river"...like i said i type but don't have to think...i observe these hands typing like they're someone else's...when i talk the words come out without thinking and i observe myself talking...this "river" doesn't allow me to obsess or think about things like characters because it is free of obstructions. it's almost like the new agers talk about..a heart-based mind but not the way they talk about it...too complicated for words...

emotions like sadness, anger and fear are for those with an "ego-helmet".

i wanted to say what characters do. they hear someone talking about something like myself. they don't have a "frame of reference" so what does ego do? it fits what is being described into the character's egoic beLIEfs to maintain character's egoic sense-of-self. because who am "I" if i don't exist? ego = "I" exist. so what characters will do is label what i'm talking about as mental illness or medical problem or something else to maintain their egoic sense-of-self. it literally is about their survival and that's why wars are fought in the name of beLIEfs because it's about "I EXIST". people will fight to the death (of the ego) to maintain egoic beLIEfs or "I EXIST"

if you are using intellect to understand my world you will be blind to what i'm saying. intellect is a TRAP of this world which is why it's promoted so much. lol





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this "IT" controls the minds of those with "ego helmets". it can make them do or say anything because the characters will think it was their own idea. kind of like a "borg-hive-mind" which controls all the minds attached to it. if you have an "ego helmet" you are hooked into the "borg-hive-mind"

characters think they are awake because they know conspiracy stuff. but they are still "plugged in" but just with different programming lol

anyways i don't know where my partner and i go now...things are getting interesting...end of the road perhaps?

like i said before we are "in this world but not of this world". it all seems strange. to even listen to new agers now sounds funny. to watch people cry or get angry seems strange and like bad acting. to listen to christians like the lady in the store sounds funny...like she's just programmed and running a tape out of her mouth lol

the bots like to be hypnotized...with their television or their drugs and alcohol..or by keeping busy with this or that...lol
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
[link to www.learntarot.com]
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
hahahahahahahahaha

holy shit!!! hahahahahaha

remember i told you "IT" made this song in my head and i found the video..right?

watch the video and look what is written on the screen towards the end of the video...hahahahahahaha

it says "SHEERFOLLY2" towards end of the video
hahahahahahahaha



"Time To Say Goodbye" to limitations!!!!

hahahahahahaha

Sheer Folly

The Fool and his Folly

Tarot card for fool = 0 = God = immortal

God does foolish things because he can because he's immortal

hahahaahahahaha

[link to 4.bp.blogspot.com]
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i'm crying..

i've been such a fool...

my "Expandedself" or "God" or whatever you want to call "IT" has been with me the whole time...

he has been trying to get me to "jump off a cliff" figuratively...like the fool from the tarot card...i have to "jump off a cliff" for zero limitations world....

all these messages...and now the one in the video..it now all makes sense

and at this moment i know "IT" cares about me...i've been such a fool...
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it's so strange to see the bots around us like caricatures or almost like cartoon characters running around like "chickens with their heads cut off"...they're fake....fake love..fake caring...fake everything...completely unconscious and not giving a shit about anyone but themselves for the most part...
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potkettle
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emotions like sadness, anger and fear are for those with an "ego-helmet".
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Surely then, by your logic, ALL emotions should be included in your list, for those with an ego.

Interesting that you keep mentioning those particular emotions, I wonder why that is...
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when people go to funerals they cry for themselves...it isn't about the person that died. lol
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How do you know what other people think and feel, and the reasons why?
You're projecting.


You keep saying...

nobody can understand the world of my partner and i unless they can truly "SEE" what i'm talking about.
 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142


So how the fuck can you understand other peoples worlds unless you can truly "SEE" how they "SEE"?
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OP,

You are seeing the "living dead" because the characters argue for limitations and they are their's

Meaning you need to jump off a cliff. You are a special being and you have special abilities.

Aim for the sky!

Wonderful discussion!
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i'm lucky to have my partner who shares the same experiences and sensory indications.

it's so strange to see the bots around us like caricatures or almost like cartoon characters running around like "chickens with their heads cut off"...they're fake....fake love..fake caring...fake everything...completely unconscious and not giving a shit about anyone but themselves for the most part...

that's what i told you all before. when people go to funerals they cry for themselves...it isn't about the person that died. lol

nobody can understand the world of my partner and i unless they can truly "SEE" what i'm talking about. i'm sharing my experiences and sensory indications and using what's available to describe it. to truly "SEE" you need to have pulled out of your character role or avatar.

you see it's almost as if there are 2 minds. an egoic character mind and one that is almost like a "river". now people with an "ego helmet" have the egoic character mind. they use intellect and compartmentalize everything..

the mind now my partner and i have now is empty...almost like a "river"...like i said i type but don't have to think...i observe these hands typing like they're someone else's...when i talk the words come out without thinking and i observe myself talking...this "river" doesn't allow me to obsess or think about things like characters because it is free of obstructions. it's almost like the new agers talk about..a heart-based mind but not the way they talk about it...too complicated for words...

emotions like sadness, anger and fear are for those with an "ego-helmet".

i wanted to say what characters do. they hear someone talking about something like myself. they don't have a "frame of reference" so what does ego do? it fits what is being described into the character's egoic beLIEfs to maintain character's egoic sense-of-self. because who am "I" if i don't exist? ego = "I" exist. so what characters will do is label what i'm talking about as mental illness or medical problem or something else to maintain their egoic sense-of-self. it literally is about their survival and that's why wars are fought in the name of beLIEfs because it's about "I EXIST". people will fight to the death (of the ego) to maintain egoic beLIEfs or "I EXIST"

if you are using intellect to understand my world you will be blind to what i'm saying. intellect is a TRAP of this world which is why it's promoted so much. lol






 Quoting: No Name (op) 10875142



OP I feel the same way and can relate, Its as if I am no longer here in a way.

My mind is blank and my memory is fleeting only here but gone into oblivion.

I feel I am just observing myself from within.

anon
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Op you still there ? !

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Time is in control
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bump

pretty clear OP that you are in the drivers seat and that you are your higher self
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partner and i have been homeless for almost a week. lady we live with has been looking for us with another tenant. she wanted us to stay in her extra room but we left early one morning and have been living on the beach. the experience was a gift! it has changed me alot.

every night sleeping under the stars and listening to the waves was kewl. the first 2 nights was only 3 hours sleep. thunder/lightening and rain was only issue that made things difficult. also the crabs on the beach would bite...the little ones...biting my legs all night...one night a big one bit and i kicked it through the air.

we had money but spent it all going out to eat...kept ourselves clean so nobody knew we were homeless...was fantastic eating out every meal and meeting many people.

one night went to a restaurant. i started talking to young guy from alabama....23 years old...really a lady's man...really bright...anyways i told him to read the book called "Illusions-The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah"...he looked at me a bit oddly and said "i'm reading that book right now!" lol. no surprise considering my world. anyways i arranged to meet him later that night at a bar. i drank for the first time in 3.7 years. had about 4 beers and 5 rum and cokes...i didn't even have a buzz...now i can drink it seems and i don't get influenced by the alcohol...i just sat there sober while this guy got more and more drunk. anyways he told me about his synchronicities...his girlfriend who he said would enjoy talking to me. he told me most people he found were "simpletons" and that he couldn't really talked to them. the girls were after him the whole night. goodlooking guy but we really connected because it was like i was listening to myself. he was very enthusiastic about my partner and i. he started telling us about ourselves..

he told us "you two don't need to eat food anymore". i said "how would you know that?". he said i can "SEE" things about people. he said also "your partner and you have expanded way beyond anyone in this world" lol. he said "you are not like anyone in this world" lol. he just kept saying nice things about us also. he said other things i'll keep to myself..it was surreal...he started getting drunk...went on about girls and how he could sleep with any girl and didn't care about them..he said he just schmoozes with people but find most idiots...the night before he was in the back of a cop car for getting into a fight...anyways we spent later on at the beach walking and talking with him..he said his best features were his hair and his penis...it was really strange...anyways i got sick of his drunken ramblings and decided to leave. he stroked my face before we left...i sensed something there but wasn't interested in that..was more interested in what he told us...can't remember all of it right now...

met lots of other people....had lots of other experiences..too many to mention...met people from places i've lived...met even some girl who lived in a small new hampshire town i used to drive through alot...really so many synchronicities to mention...

finally i sent an email to lady here...she was looking for us with the tenant because she wanted to offer us a free room for now...so her daughter picked us up and we went to a huge fuckin party in her house last night...it had a great bluegrass band and i drank and ate the great fatty southern food...it was a great time...played with 4 young girls in the pool....pushed all 4 on a floating device...gave them rides and they were screaming and giggling...their mother thanked me for playing with them all...met a guy towards the end of the night...he told me he had "awakened" and was very lonely...loved what i talked about at the party...wanted to know more....so i educated him and we exchanged emails

anyways too many things to mention...thought i would off myself if i would get homeless...ended up experiencing homelessness for 5th time as a gift...it seems it showed me i want to live...maybe i've been the "living dead"? lol...i'm still different than those around me but the experiences this past week changed me...

interesting thing now....i ate a ton for a week and didn't have to take one shit....my partner had the same...as though the food didn't exist....lol

more later should i remember more

thanks for your posts...wild week...wild party last night...i can't get hungover anymore either...don't need much sleep anymore either...
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oh yeah..forgot to say my partner and i weren't sure whether we wanted to come back here or continue living on the beach..decided to come back to clean ourselves up and get a bed...we can go back anytime..doesn't matter..of course since it's summer homelessness is no big deal...winter might be different...
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OP I feel the same way and can relate, Its as if I am no longer here in a way.

My mind is blank and my memory is fleeting only here but gone into oblivion.

I feel I am just observing myself from within.
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