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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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yeah

hahahha

blah blah blah

i know nothing but what i experience

geeze i've got gas

i guess i'm "enlightened"

this world is full of bullshit

just shovel the shit

i don't trust any of it

call me paranoid but this place smells and it ain't perfume i'm smelling
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Have you figured it out?

What should we do instead of listening to the bullshit character?
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Who is the BS character?

Do we pass up the BS character? Or do we reform the BS character inside and out? Learn from the BS character as it is the output to our input - there is no other alternative than empathy, acceptance and unconditional love - we subdue the urges - we tame the BS - rather than ignore or vanquish, as ignoring and vanquishing results in the same BS.

Reality has a specific tall order, a needle eye to pass through, there is only one option: empathy, integration, mediation, balance, lack of hostility towards all spectrums, lack of desire.

Which program will we trigger to remind us what were working towards?

As we blame and reveal the labrynth, do not forget you designed this labrynth with me so we would cover ALL bases to the standards of eternity, with ALL variables included - thus we see the galaxies troubleshooting and developing EVERY combination.

Eternity has gotten sick and tired of the same old BS characters, so... the BS comes up to remind us to stop it.

Not taking responsibility is another BS character...

We do A, B and C and we get spiritual parasites, spiritual hierarchies, demi-urge's, egregors, subconscious manifestations, baits, lures, self-destructive tendencies, on and on - this is what occurs in nature, how else are we to learn the nature of things less we experience all faces of the nature of things?

Alright, so I've been "over there" "back home" - you go through a "field" which is a mesh of your subconsciousness, the mass cub-conscious, and the cosmic-subconscious (which includes everyone + your highest aspect)...

It gets confusing in that middle ground where they all meet, as the "higher" realms have little friction, so intelligence/consciousness is through the roof, so consciousness blends with yours, even when it's not, yet it has always been piece of the same original being- if you get it you'll get it...

That being went into an illusion, separated into as many varieties as possible, fallen as deep, designed the grandest delusions, as to workshop and troubleshoot light-based reality itself.

Think of a mad/divine scientist who is eternal, went into illusion to know self better, sent all his evolutionary data back in time at the end of each cycle, started the next cycle at the beginning before anything existed - with the end already inherent as he sent the info back in time - thus the progression is known, then evolves in different time frames simultaneously - taking all levels into account - all impacting each other, and you make the interface of the process human bodies on a planet in a solar system, and do this throughout all the galaxies in as many ways as configurable, pretty clever...

So where did we get "stuck"? In the middle, when stricken with amnesia, with cosmic mediators taking advantage of self on "lesser" levels, social structures created which solidify dependency, spiritual corruption, hierarchy, control, environmental (interface) destruction.

these are the tricky nodes which eternity is still trouble shooting, as they result in loss of fraction of self, they result in eventual implosion annihilation - with "higher" aspects creating structures which spread and feed such self-destructive models...

Even when its an illusion within an illusion within an offshoot illusion of some elses hacked version of a light universe, actually, that's EXACTLY what we would be working on and experiencing...

With ZERO tolerance for BS - you can't get through the eye of the needle less you meet all the aspects of nature standards and can subdue, wield, all aspects of nature in ANY context, especially the tough ones...

You cannot move on to the next stage of reintegration less you have passed through this one, get the point, balance and wield, practice, then you are ready for more...

And so I reveal to you that which occurs in the afterlife, stages of getting to know what's going on in the greater community - which we knew we wouldn't be ready for until we were ready for it - and so we set it up intentionally this way - for our own good, according to our eternal standards - with everything rolled into one, nothing less would satisfy we jaded immortals.

Because how could we responsibly create with light less we knew ALL its possibilities and configurations?

The blame game is another dead-end my friends, deal with it, learn to work with things as they are, learn to transcend all and empathize with all, what could any spirit or demi-urge be able to do with such an advanced and well-learnt spirit? Exactly the reason of going through such a lengthy and complicated series of lifetimes and experiences...

Who will pass when the tough tests (bardos) when they present themselves?? As though we assume this is the most difficult, hahaha...
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more bullshit fodder for the cows..moooooooo

should this. should that.

remember that shoulds are for bots

doing what is natural is for people like me.

to should anything is unnatural

fuck shoulds

do what is natural

if it smells like shit it's shit

stick with simple

 Quoting: op(no name) 24231992


You dismiss one on the same path so quickly? With an emotional response? Without addressing me specifically? Cheap. Correct me then oh great and mighty OP.
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i feel so emotional..lol

oh wait..that's just some gas
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i gotta admit though the PC is really poor at scripting

i give him a D- for effort though

suddenly after posting on here i've got to move.

i laughed when they told us.

you see the force has no power

it's impotent

but it tries

the scripting on here says enough

power moi = 10

power force = 0

i'm winning
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did i tell you that all paths lead to nowhere lol
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did i tell you that all paths lead to nowhere lol
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now here
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you see this force thinks it can manipulate me like some simpleton but it ain't working

it thought by bringing me out on the beach homeless that it would gain some control

opposite happened. my resolve is even stronger. it has only strengthened me.

like i said. i'm a virus in the program. i can see all the scripting

i'm winning the game.
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I have to say that I laughed when I read the original post. Can't say that sometimes it feels like what he stated could have some truth to it. However if everything is a program,or a matrix of some kind then it is a pretty detailed program. I would not have liked being the programmer putting this program together. Ultimately in the end, you determine what you get out of life. If you fight hard enough, you can change your fate...
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more bullshit fodder for the cows..moooooooo

should this. should that.

remember that shoulds are for bots

doing what is natural is for people like me.

to should anything is unnatural

fuck shoulds

do what is natural

if it smells like shit it's shit

stick with simple

 Quoting: op(no name) 24231992


Your should is a should just the same.

You think this version of nature is to be gone along with?

So you should do nothing, and remain exactly where you are stuck.

How do you grow and move on if one should do nothing?

Fuck responsibility, fuck seeing all sides, no should's required...

This is all for nothing, nothing to learn here, no intention here, only a trap, only a delusion, we are in the trap to learn it imo, you are free to have your own, obviously.

You just so cheaply copped-out of what I took the time to share, and your hostile response offers no direct response.

Do you really think this is all for nothing? That there is no point? There is no goal?

Like a satisfied atheist who sits atop a throne of one-sided pride, there is no talking with some people.

I suppose you have a vibe or bias you're looking to protect, otherwise you would respond more thoughtfully, or maybe you just don't care.

You couldn't bear to think we are responsible for ALL of this, who else then? For what, for nothing?

So we should do nothing and nothing happens, cows for the slaughter, what is your path of liberation which includes no form of should (even the should of no should at all, lol)
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Those snide people are so annoying, which are just out of reach, who have chosen a hasty and angsty approach to the matrix predicament.

Ah yes, I remember those days, when I made my first video: Archon Earth Masters: Gods of Duality

I was sure I had figured it out, that resistance at all turns was the answer. So I had taken my testing into the other realms, and guess what my resistance, angst, biases and pride got me?

I found myself immersed in resistance, angst, bias and pride.

I wonder what OP expects? If he even has thought that far...

So I continued, and I had an exchange with a horrible entity, I had been dismembered completely, cut into thousands of pieces, the shamanic initiation had occurred, I myself was as the OP is now, and I was easily taken down by another prideful, biased and angsty spirit, treated how I treat.

Talk about humiliation, talk about feeling like I was preaching the wrong answer to the mystery of mysteries.

There is a path which has all the liberation which OP seems to think he has achieved, and that path is empathy.

Of course, believe what you will! I ask you consider empathy rather than angst - as in the less dense realities, the tit for tat of our actions and thoughts is nearly seamless!

For example...

Say there is the force of a poised snake, its only will is to destroy and consume.

The tit for tat would be, you ignore the snake as an illusion - as you have ignored everything as an illusion, the snake sees the easy opening and strikes you down for sustenance, the bite is an illusion anyway - so what did any of it matter any way? This style is a dead end imo which leaves you numb and nothing in illusion - as you have made everything illusion for yourself...

Another approach: You defend your space as the snake defends its own. You respect your individuality as the snake respects its individuality. You harbor no feelings of hatred, simply a difference in opinion - yet you EMPATHIZE with those desperate feeling which the snake embodies. There is only unconditional love available, no footing for consumption, no fear to utilize, the snake can either stick around in the love - or bail.

I can't tell you how many times this has played out with me on D . M . T . I resist, fight and resent - I meet resistance, a fight and am resentment.

I approach owning my space, with equal respect - though difference in choice / opinion - I offer only love, no fear, no pain, no participation IN ALL THOSE THINGS I LEARNED FROM FIRST HAND...

Those resentful and hungry spirits CAN DO NOTHING WITH ME AND FLEE, only pure light and similar empathisers and balanced sages show up.

No ulterior motives, on either end, no loose footing, no unforeseen corners.

The same in ANY realm, any heaven or hell, any illusion, freedom, liberation.

While the OP offers the dead-end of nothingness as many have done before him.

Is nothingness the true key? Where one should be and do nothing.

Or, where one should be a balance of all that is?

That is the eye of the needle which I speak of - and ultimately - I don't mean to be harsh - but the other paths remain in the illusion until conflict with ALL of nature is resolved. IN MY OPINION.

Here's the thing, so here we are, we gonna just kick and scream and do nothing?

Then I took it a step further and went into other realms, found out, hey, spice hyperspace in realms of light, are illusion and biased deceptions too!

So OP's approach is to be endlessly passive and whipped around.

Do we confine ourselves into nothingness because we were afraid of all the illusions? Because we couldn't think of anything better to do?

You got to deal with these issues outside of the illusory realms as well, so you might as well make yourself compatible and sovereign in ANY circumstance, rather than angsty and hasty towards ANY circumstance.

IMO, as long as conflict remains, so do we remain in samsara...

Signed the PC, lol...

Its so easy to dismiss everything when you dismiss everything, go ahead and sweep me under the rug too, I'm just a bot anyways...
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Haha, this is too funny, how it has become a match, haha.

I enjoy and embrace it :)

Though I embrace darkness, I embrace it only with love, I cannot and will not use darkness against myself or another.

But a good spiritual debate is fantastic, who else are we supposed to talk to, priests? Lol...

So you want to talk about experience?

I was faced with a similar ego trap, except I was out of my body and whisked away to a land of milky clouds of light.

I was BATTERED with love and light of such intensity, it raised my red flags immediately, FAR out of balance was this place.

The whole deal, ceilings/walls you can walk on, floating about, the marbleized and pearlesant light - which blinds me though my eyes are closed, actually, what eyes even was I looking through?

Suddenly, golden iron gates unfold and fill the space, there are four holy monks, spitting image of Vatican paintings.

They approach me with smiles and outstretched hands, so over the top my god...

Telepathically: "Finally you have returned to us! It is the Christ! We may finally reveal to you that you are the reincarnation of Jesus himself! You are the one who dived into the illusion to save all others beside yourself, and your sacrifice has been used over and over for eternity, finally you have returned to us!"

And they gesture for me to follow them, though I refuse and respond:

"There is no single Christ we are all equal. The idea of a chosen one has caused great apathy and dependency to my race, so I know that your ploy is one of egotism and self-righteousness, you are not of the balanced light, reveal your true form to me now."

They looked so shocked and *poof they were gone.

Though one stuck around, now he looked like a middle eastern cartoon man in a brown robe.

"If you adjust your beliefs and how you share them according to the way I lead you, I can line up great prosperity to you in your world."

I laughed: "You just revealed your true form to me, get out of here."

He had no space left, there energy was a waste for them, I had grown further beyond that layer of ego illusion.

And so we can only learn to know better, imo.

To remain in conflict, is to remain in conflict.
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more bullshit fodder for the cows..moooooooo

should this. should that.

remember that shoulds are for bots

doing what is natural is for people like me.

to should anything is unnatural

fuck shoulds

do what is natural

if it smells like shit it's shit

stick with simple

 Quoting: op(no name) 24231992


Your should is a should just the same.

You think this version of nature is to be gone along with?

So you should do nothing, and remain exactly where you are stuck.

How do you grow and move on if one should do nothing?

Fuck responsibility, fuck seeing all sides, no should's required...

This is all for nothing, nothing to learn here, no intention here, only a trap, only a delusion, we are in the trap to learn it imo, you are free to have your own, obviously.

You just so cheaply copped-out of what I took the time to share, and your hostile response offers no direct response.

Do you really think this is all for nothing? That there is no point? There is no goal?

Like a satisfied atheist who sits atop a throne of one-sided pride, there is no talking with some people.

I suppose you have a vibe or bias you're looking to protect, otherwise you would respond more thoughtfully, or maybe you just don't care.

You couldn't bear to think we are responsible for ALL of this, who else then? For what, for nothing?

So we should do nothing and nothing happens, cows for the slaughter, what is your path of liberation which includes no form of should (even the should of no should at all, lol)
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look..i got a bit silly last night...i'm over the bullshit scripting..completely and utterly..

this force is always using characters to influence me or manipulate me somehow. yesterday i was going on about how "it" places characters around us that talk about money, death, sickness, fear-based things/dualistic nonsense(for lack of better terminology) because it's trying to somehow pull us back in and suddenly the people we're staying with want us out this week.

this force takes over the minds of characters all the time and scripts them completely. usually it's to manipulate and control us or influence us in some way.

i'm so used to characters being used a certain way i often dismiss them because of it.

i don't hate characters or lack empathy for characters. i just loathe "it" because "it" is constantly trying to manipulate and control me through characters. as a result i tend to dismiss most character scripting.

maybe you are different and maybe your mind is your "own"?

most characters i meet are solely designed to try and manipulate and control my partner and i.

i hold no emotional "charges" for characters but i must admit i can't stand "it" anymore and its bullshit scripting. everywhere we go there are characters with illnesses going on and on about it...it's so lame and has no influence on us so i don't know why "it" persists

it's almost as if "it" is trying to get us back into limitation thinking/fear-based thinking/dualistic thinking and away from unlimited thinking.

nowadays i don't meet characters with minds of their own. i just get scripted bullshit designed to manipulate, control or influence me.

"it" seems so simplistic and uses base-level psychology. i see through all its games and manipulations. it is powerless yet it persists. i will always maintain my power position.
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everything is so scripted. "it" tries to find associations or use past events to script. yesterday the guy here said he wanted to listen to claire de lune by debussy which is a song my mother used to play on the piano.

the woman is also scripted. one day i was trying to remember something and she just came out and said it with my having mentioned it to her.

it's freakin annoying because i can see how everyone is scripted.

"it" uses things i would potentially not want or not like just to intentionally irritate me.

it was better when i was a character and couldn't SEE any of this stuff. it was better because as they say ignorance is bliss.

it's not nice to see how everything and everyone is scripted constantly...always designed using my past or associations or my thoughts etc.etc.

i don't even want to see a newspaper or watch television anymore or even read GLP discussions because the news and discussions end up always being related to me, myself and i.

i don't think i'm "all that" or special in any way. like i said being a character is easy because you're clueless. my existence bites now because of what i can SEE.

i don't buy into the nonsense that i'm "The One" or whatever anymore. i just am sick and tired of this world and all the scripted nonsense. i'm just sick and tired of "it's" meddling. i wish "it" would just piss off

i never personalize characters AT ALL. everything out of character's mouths is scripted ALWAYS. that's my experience.
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i wanna get off the "mouse wheel"
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lol.

i'm kind of glad to be leaving this place. listening to character scripting is tedious at best. the characters are nice enough but there is always an agenda. the agenda is to reinforce limitation thinking whether it be about money or sickness or death or fear-based stuff blah blah blah.

my partner and i went for a walk again. we don't know where to go or what to do anymore. we have nowhere we want to go and we have nothing that we desire. we don't care about anything anymore. strange. the characters go on and on about stuff as though they're trying to get us interested. but our interest is at an all-time-low. not afraid of death because it would be a relief.

it's strange to feel unlimited yet to have some force imposing limitations on me. limitations just don't fit with who i am anymore.

i'm soooo not understand why this force keeps scripting this shit. why characters incessantly going on about sickness or money and other nonsense. it's not like it's gonna have any influence on us.
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I do.
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I do.
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you wish
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lol.

i'm kind of glad to be leaving this place. listening to character scripting is tedious at best. the characters are nice enough but there is always an agenda. the agenda is to reinforce limitation thinking whether it be about money or sickness or death or fear-based stuff blah blah blah.

my partner and i went for a walk again. we don't know where to go or what to do anymore. we have nowhere we want to go and we have nothing that we desire. we don't care about anything anymore. strange. the characters go on and on about stuff as though they're trying to get us interested. but our interest is at an all-time-low. not afraid of death because it would be a relief.

it's strange to feel unlimited yet to have some force imposing limitations on me. limitations just don't fit with who i am anymore.

i'm soooo not understand why this force keeps scripting this shit. why characters incessantly going on about sickness or money and other nonsense. it's not like it's gonna have any influence on us.

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i'm feeling the same way, just not interested.

what's next, something wonderful perhaps to take the place of this we call living.

there must be something to all this, so many of us feeling the same thing.
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it's like we're done with this reality

and the new one hasn't kicked in yet

but we feel it. it can now run the show,

but not completely.
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I do.
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you wish
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you wish that I did not control this simulation... but I do...

certainly, it ties up a few loose threads... you might even be part of the exit program...

so...keep up the good work, program
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strange enough i seem to be at a loss for words. imagine that lol. i don't have that much to say anymore. probably why i didn't go into detail about the magick/synchronicities/scripting on Folly Beach. like i don't really care about telling my story anymore. just want some forward movement or an end to this lame projection. i'm judging the shit out of it because it seems to have devolved into simplistic banal scripting. at least if i was in charge this projection would be more interesting. instead i'm subjected to mediocrity and dumbass limitation scripting by this force. cry me a river~
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boy the way i feel today is something. i've had pretty amazing head stuff which makes me dizzy and hard to keep balance with nausea.

really have no interest in anything anymore. i don't care. it doesn't matter. very clear to me my partner and i have gone to another level.

big thing now is i'm mostly having no opinions on anything. i really don't feel anything about anything. you couldn't get me excited about anything anymore.

we are seriously questioning why the fuck we're in this world. this is nothing holding us here
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by the way i'm OP and at a new IP location:

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I have of late—but wherefore I know not—lost all my mirth, forgone all custom of exercises, and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air—look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire—why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors. What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world. The paragon of animals. And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me. No, nor woman neither...
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I have of late—but wherefore I know not—lost all my mirth, forgone all custom of exercises, and indeed it goes so heavily with my disposition that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory; this most excellent canopy, the air—look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire—why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors. What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world. The paragon of animals. And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me. No, nor woman neither...
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I heard thee speak me a speech once, but it was never acted. Or, if it was, not above once, for the play, I remember, pleased not the million. 'Twas caviary to the general. But it was—as I received it, and others, whose judgments in such matters cried in the top of mine—an excellent play, well digested in the scenes, set down with as much modesty as cunning.
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O God, I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams.

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