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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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laugh
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This whole thread is scripted bullshit.
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stfu
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10/24/2012 12:47 PM
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Do you define yourself as a victim of the world, or as the world?
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maybe OP has been trying to keep himself in the dark for just a little bitch longer?
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laugh
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For a good Alchemist turning shit into gold scene, watch Alejandro Jodorowsky's ""Holy Mountain""





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Do you define yourself as a victim of the world, or as the world?
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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maybe OP has been trying to keep himself in the dark for just a little bitch longer?
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freudian slip

in other words OP maybe you fool yourself so you can bitch longer?

you know trap yourself and bitch about it
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10/24/2012 05:05 PM
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alan watts was a brilliant orator and his words sounded like poetry

but why was he on the booze? isn't that riding against the current?

he had a talent for putting things into words but why the drinking?
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10/24/2012 05:15 PM
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alan watts was a brilliant orator and his words sounded like poetry

but why was he on the booze? isn't that riding against the current?

he had a talent for putting things into words but why the drinking?

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drinking is just chemicals man, he was in control:)
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10/24/2012 05:45 PM
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Who has the eye?
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10/24/2012 05:51 PM
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Who has the eye?
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Awareness
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What do you see sister?
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10/24/2012 05:55 PM
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
myself
op(klaatu)
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10/25/2012 04:16 AM
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alan watts was a brilliant orator and his words sounded like poetry

but why was he on the booze? isn't that riding against the current?

he had a talent for putting things into words but why the drinking?

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drinking is just chemicals man, he was in control:)
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people who drink are out of control. they're escaping

he preaches about "going with the flow" and yet he's a boozer

nobody who drinks is in control. they're trying to escape
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it's clear to me living in Folly Beach that drugs and alcohol no longer fit in my world. i can't escape with alcohol or pot or whatever anymore. i look at the people who drink or smoke pot and they're all self-medicating and masking their misery. their minds are so altered that the "abnormal becomes the norm". they're so far from nature or what is natural. they're not present. they're unconscious.

i don't care what people do with their bodies just as long as i'm not around it.
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10/25/2012 08:34 AM
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i feel like i'm done with this world
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10/25/2012 08:52 AM
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i'm not waiting anymore for anything. "shell beach" doesn't exist. opiums and other "carrots" like bliss don't exist.
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10/25/2012 11:33 AM
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alan watts was a brilliant orator and his words sounded like poetry

but why was he on the booze? isn't that riding against the current?

he had a talent for putting things into words but why the drinking?

 Quoting: op(klaatu) 24771468


drinking is just chemicals man, he was in control:)
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people who drink are out of control. they're escaping

he preaches about "going with the flow" and yet he's a boozer

nobody who drinks is in control. they're trying to escape

 Quoting: op(klaatu) 24771468


What makes you think he wanted to be in control?

Isn't wanting to be in control of the ego?

Why is being a "boozer" contradictory to "going with the flow"?
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it's clear to me living in Folly Beach that drugs and alcohol no longer fit in my world. i can't escape with alcohol or pot or whatever anymore. i look at the people who drink or smoke pot and they're all self-medicating and masking their misery. their minds are so altered that the "abnormal becomes the norm". they're so far from nature or what is natural. they're not present. they're unconscious.
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What is "the norm"?

What is natural?
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
Does being a more present, conscious, aware, spiritual person mean abstaining from intoxicants and sexual desires?
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it's clear to me living in Folly Beach that drugs and alcohol no longer fit in my world. i can't escape with alcohol or pot or whatever anymore. i look at the people who drink or smoke pot and they're all self-medicating and masking their misery. their minds are so altered that the "abnormal becomes the norm". they're so far from nature or what is natural. they're not present. they're unconscious.
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What is "the norm"?

What is natural?
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you'll notice i used """" myself

by natural i mean closest to nature like a new-born baby without foreign substances in your body...meaning a mind that isn't clouded by outside substances
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Does being a more present, conscious, aware, spiritual person mean abstaining from intoxicants and sexual desires?
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intoxicants are just gonna give you mood-altered states. how can you trust those kind of experiences? that's what i mean't by "natural"..no foreign substances

the word "spiritual" is not in my vocabulary

at the "level" i'm at sex is not as interesting as it used to be. there is a detachment. it's almost as if the body itself has a separate mind.
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what my partner and i have now you would call "depressION " but it's beyond that. much deeper and much more severe and it feels irreversible. it's at a distance but it has taken over. we can't cry but feel this deep deep core "depression". it's almost as if it's not ours. it's not a feeling like "depression" that you all know but something at a much grander level

monday morning we need to be out of our current residence. we have a place offered for $l,000 . the place we live is expensive. the food is expensive. it costs about $600/month. this "island" is inaccessible by mass transit and we can't drive because of our visual stuff. from monday temperatures in 30s. no winter shoes and no winter coats here.

so we have no choice but to depend on this "force" to help us out.

what's strange about what we go through is the "force" doesn't allow us to work. it blocks everything except perhaps one thing usually. even to work a job would be impossible with our head stuff. it doesn't allow it. blocks everything.

???????????????
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wanted to say also that i don't advocate any drugs or alcohol because it messes with the psyche. chemically alters and once people get on drugs and alcohol the "norm" changes. they might do or think things "out of the norm".
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oh yes i failed to mention that we have no money once again. place offered but no money for anything. not even for a pot to piss in
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10/26/2012 04:51 AM
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this morning head stuff even more massive. heart noises very noticeable.

at this "level" taking care of ourselves is definitely a problem

we're gonna spend the day in bed.
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10/26/2012 06:08 AM
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just saw moth in bathroom

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10/26/2012 06:39 AM
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the moth in the bathroom was flying around one of the two working lightbulbs

my partner reminded me of the LOST TV episode when they were trapped in a cave and a moth showed them the way out

i'm very careful about depending on symbolism in my world but maybe it means something

off to bed....
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also the toilet gets stuck and keeps running because of the"ball & chain" in the back.

water keeps running could mean what was unconscious is now conscious and it is flowing out of me. or maybe it keeps getting stuck because we're stuck.

who the fuck knows?

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