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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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i get what i want or i'm outta here.
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massive ego
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there is no such thing as a massive ego

in fact ego is an illusion

it is solely your sense of identification...your beliefs...your preferences blah blah blah

just more dumb scripting
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i get what i want or i'm outta here.
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massive ego
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26402958


there is no such thing as a massive ego

in fact ego is an illusion

it is solely your sense of identification...your beliefs...your preferences blah blah blah

just more dumb scripting

 Quoting: op 24771468


If ego is an illusion, then how the fuck are you going to get what you want, unless you are identified with your preferences?

Wanting is having preferences.

1doh1
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...cue dumb scripting from op...
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Let us take you on a journey.......


All of us here are gathered in a meadow at the base of a mountain. We are home and we are all playing together in perfect love. A dear brother approaches and says, "Would anyone here like to play a new Game?"

"What kind of Game?" You ask. "Is it like the ones we play now?"

"No," he replies. "It is like nothing we have ever done before. It will be an elaborate Game with many props and disguises. We will wear veils so that we can no longer see or re-member our true nature, even the veil will be hidden from view. Then we will start the Game and begin to re-member. This veil will be so effective that you will forget not only who you are; you will even forget home. Even as we pass each other on our paths, we will look into each other's eyes and not recognize one another. The veil will be so effective that many will look around at the props and disguises and truly believe that is all there is. You will retain all of your powers, yet you will not re-member how to use them or that they are even there.

"The Game will be played in phases and before we start each phase of the Game we may place as many reminders in our path as we wish, to help us re-member. Be advised to place many reminders, for most of you will rationalize them away easily. We will choose the time and place of our entrances and exits on the Gameboard. We will also set up circumstances and lessons we wish to complete while we are under the veil. A tally will be kept and points will accumulate from one phase to the next. This point system will only be used by you to determine what will be included in your next phase. You will not be able to remember from one phase to the next, yet, once mastered, certain attributes may be carried forward into the next phase. You will always carry your core essence and personality, yet you will not re-member that it passes with you through the veil into every phase.

"Humor will always be a reminder that passes unchecked through the veil, and if we find you getting too serious we will tickle your funny bone as a reminder that this is only a Game. There will also be many masters available along the way to help us if we wander too far from the path. Oh yes, I almost forgot an important part of the Game... at all times there will be Free Choice. You have complete choice in all matters, you may even choose not to play the Game, or to call in a substitute. You may choose to hide, or you may choose to seek, it is entirely up to you.

"On the Gameboard there will be polarity. This has to do with the mechanics of the Gameboard itself, and will be a necessary component as it provides the contrast needed. However, polarity will taint your vision. Through eyes tainted with polarity, you perceive things as Up or Down, Light or Dark, Good or Bad, Love or Fear and Right or Wrong. Do not let this fool you, it is only illusion.

"We will all leave our higher aspects of ourselves in a special place for the duration of the Game, otherwise the Game would be much too easy. Your higher self will be available to you at all times. Your challenge will be to learn to access it, and to re-member that it exists as part of yourself. You may choose special loved ones to ride on your shoulder to advise you during the Game. Again, re-membering that they even exist will be a big part of the Game itself.

"The goal of the Game will be to see how many can re-member who they are, where they are from, and what powers of creation they have. Once you re-member, then you may re-merge with your higher self and re-create home on the other side of the veil to demonstrate that you have fully re-membered.

"So who wants to play?"

The group through Steve Rother.

Taken from the book Re-member.

Be Love!
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i get what i want or i'm outta here.
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massive ego
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26402958


there is no such thing as a massive ego

in fact ego is an illusion

it is solely your sense of identification...your beliefs...your preferences blah blah blah

just more dumb scripting

 Quoting: op 24771468


If ego is an illusion, then how the fuck are you going to get what you want, unless you are identified with your preferences?

Wanting is having preferences.

1doh1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26402958


if you resonate with your given name that is an egoic sense of identification. you know like you really have an idea of who "john" is(if your name is john). if you identify with your past or images of your past that is egoic sense of identification. if you are interested in the storyline or the news. if you're into politics. things like love, career, spirituality...what defines you as "john"

i have no interest in most things of this world. i no longer resonate with my past or my given name. i have access to those memories but feel no charges to those events. i feel no sentimentality . i don't feel "love" either.

having said that yeah i prefer not living homeless again on the beach for 40 days. it's discomfort even though it seems i'm visiting this body.

if you want to call it a massive ego that for once i prefer to be left alone with my partner in our own place without any sprinkler events or having to deal with someone behaving like a prepubescent male then yeah call it what you will..

we've had 2 waiters here on Folly Beach that we've met tell us they are good at reading people. both of them said they couldn't "read us"...what they mean is that people with egoic sense of identification usually have certain traits or patterns that makes it easy to "size them up"

ego is an illusion in the sense that characters are fooling themselves into believing they're something they're not...to pretend existence...to pretend i'm this character "Bryan" when that's not who i really am

understand?
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Let us take you on a journey.......


All of us here are gathered in a meadow at the base of a mountain. We are home and we are all playing together in perfect love. A dear brother approaches and says, "Would anyone here like to play a new Game?"

"What kind of Game?" You ask. "Is it like the ones we play now?"

"No," he replies. "It is like nothing we have ever done before. It will be an elaborate Game with many props and disguises. We will wear veils so that we can no longer see or re-member our true nature, even the veil will be hidden from view. Then we will start the Game and begin to re-member. This veil will be so effective that you will forget not only who you are; you will even forget home. Even as we pass each other on our paths, we will look into each other's eyes and not recognize one another. The veil will be so effective that many will look around at the props and disguises and truly believe that is all there is. You will retain all of your powers, yet you will not re-member how to use them or that they are even there.

"The Game will be played in phases and before we start each phase of the Game we may place as many reminders in our path as we wish, to help us re-member. Be advised to place many reminders, for most of you will rationalize them away easily. We will choose the time and place of our entrances and exits on the Gameboard. We will also set up circumstances and lessons we wish to complete while we are under the veil. A tally will be kept and points will accumulate from one phase to the next. This point system will only be used by you to determine what will be included in your next phase. You will not be able to remember from one phase to the next, yet, once mastered, certain attributes may be carried forward into the next phase. You will always carry your core essence and personality, yet you will not re-member that it passes with you through the veil into every phase.

"Humor will always be a reminder that passes unchecked through the veil, and if we find you getting too serious we will tickle your funny bone as a reminder that this is only a Game. There will also be many masters available along the way to help us if we wander too far from the path. Oh yes, I almost forgot an important part of the Game... at all times there will be Free Choice. You have complete choice in all matters, you may even choose not to play the Game, or to call in a substitute. You may choose to hide, or you may choose to seek, it is entirely up to you.

"On the Gameboard there will be polarity. This has to do with the mechanics of the Gameboard itself, and will be a necessary component as it provides the contrast needed. However, polarity will taint your vision. Through eyes tainted with polarity, you perceive things as Up or Down, Light or Dark, Good or Bad, Love or Fear and Right or Wrong. Do not let this fool you, it is only illusion.

"We will all leave our higher aspects of ourselves in a special place for the duration of the Game, otherwise the Game would be much too easy. Your higher self will be available to you at all times. Your challenge will be to learn to access it, and to re-member that it exists as part of yourself. You may choose special loved ones to ride on your shoulder to advise you during the Game. Again, re-membering that they even exist will be a big part of the Game itself.

"The goal of the Game will be to see how many can re-member who they are, where they are from, and what powers of creation they have. Once you re-member, then you may re-merge with your higher self and re-create home on the other side of the veil to demonstrate that you have fully re-membered.

"So who wants to play?"

The group through Steve Rother.

Taken from the book Re-member.

Be Love!
 Quoting: RealmLady50


love is an illusion. it's for egoic characters. it's a mood-altered state. it's a feeding.
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...cue dumb scripting from op...
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you can choose to not read my discussion
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if you asked me what i want or desire in this world i'd give you blank stare. i'd tell you i want to be taken out of this world

but if i'm to continue along with this storyline i'm not gonna expose myself in major discomfort to the elements as a homeless man

i already feel like a strange in a strange land and i'm asking myself all the time what the hell i'm doing in this world. why would i subject myself to more major discomfort by accepting homelessness?
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...cue dumb scripting from op...
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you can choose to not read my discussion
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"my discussion"
... a very egoic and defensive statement

not the discussion

or

our discussion.


Speaks volumes OP.


Well, you can choose not to read the replies.

Funny that you don't have a problem dismissing other people's posts, calling them "dumb scripting" when your ego doesn't like them or is challenged by them, but when it's turned back on you, you get all defensive.

baby
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This is G.A.M.E, you are player one. Ego is just your game settings i.e. gfx, captions, music volume, avatar customization. Don't need to tamper the ego, but it's good to have. Your 'body' runs the game, and the operating system, graphics, sound, ect. The controls takes at least a decade to learn. The most immersive game ever created. Gives the illusion of movement through space, in reality your body is in a sleep state. Think avatar + matrix. With the most superior tech. There are ppl who advance by cheat codes, and walkthroughs past down through bloodlined. This cannot be helped. Don't try to escape the game, there is no escape from inside the game. Imagine playing grand theft auto, you become the character. You admire the facades, terrain, vehicles, scripts, npc's that You forget you are playing. After awile you(player) figure out its an illusion a game....congrats. You(the virtual player) try to escape by bypassing code(noclip, godmode, ect ect) But you are still in the game. Silly. Play the fucking game. You may not remember, but you were brave enough to play. You play by doing what you(spirit) loves to do, how you love to do it. Learning from mistakes and obstacles, traps, that can take many 'lives'. Defeating the people trying to stop you on your quest is a giving. There are many bosses and plenty of side missions so you have no excuse to be bored. Only problem is, rulers(cheating players/hackers), have made it majority of the current and new players forget how to 'save the game'. So you never even have a chance to play. Then you become nothing more than an Npc. It makes it even harder because the game is constantly updated. There are many levels as you progress(think dimensions). Ask yourself how to save the game to the 'system hdd', instead of your personal cloud. Stop trying to damage the damn system because you think you no longer want to play.



(Edited; reason: few typos, things added)
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...cue dumb scripting from op...
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you can choose to not read my discussion
 Quoting: op 24771468


"my discussion"
... a very egoic and defensive statement

not the discussion

or

our discussion.


Speaks volumes OP.


Well, you can choose not to read the replies.

Funny that you don't have a problem dismissing other people's posts, calling them "dumb scripting" when your ego doesn't like them or is challenged by them, but when it's turned back on you, you get all defensive.

baby
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
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This is G.A.M.E, you are player one. Ego is just your game settings i.e. gfx, captions, music volume, avatar customization. Don't need to tamper the ego, but it's good to have. Your 'body' runs the game, and the operating system, graphics, sound, ect. The controls takes at least a decade to learn. The most immersive game ever created. Gives the illusion of movement through space, in reality your body is in a sleep state. Think avatar + matrix. With the most superior tech. There are ppl who advance by cheat codes, and walkthroughs past down through bloodlined. This cannot be helped. Don't try to escape the game, there is no escape from inside the game. Imagine playing grand theft auto, you become the character. You admire the facades, terrain, vehicles, scripts, npc's that You forget you are playing. After awile you(player) figure out its an illusion a game....congrats. You(the virtual player) try to escape by bypassing code(noclip, godmode, ect ect) But you are still in the game. Silly. Play the fucking game. You may not remember, but you were brave enough to play. You play by doing what you(spirit) loves to do, how you love to do it. Learning from mistakes and obstacles, traps, that can take many 'lives'. Defeating the people trying to stop you on your quest is a giving. There are many bosses and plenty of side missions so you have no excuse to be bored. Only problem is, rulers(cheating players/hackers), have made it majority of the current and new players forget how to 'save the game'. So you never even have a chance to play. Then you become nothing more than an Npc. It makes it even harder because the game is constantly updated. There are many levels as you progress(think dimensions). Ask yourself how to save the game to the 'system hdd', instead of your personal cloud. Stop trying to damage the damn system because you think you no longer want to play.



(Edited; reason: few typos, things added)
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


that's a very creative post LOL

if you want me to continue playing the game just pay my bills lol

$2,000 will do...
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seems like suddenly in this discussion characters are coming out of everywhere to convince me of something...from no characters posting to suddenly a few...hmmm

i feel like Truman at the end of the movie when he wants to escape

this world is making me nauseous..especially last couple days
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i feel like Truman at the end of the movie when he wants to escape

this world is making me nauseous..especially last couple days

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Know the feelin' man.
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
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my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
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i feel like Truman at the end of the movie when he wants to escape

this world is making me nauseous..especially last couple days

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Know the feelin' man.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


i can't do this anymore. i just can't. it has all been too much

gonna lie down

head stuff making me tip over
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seems like suddenly in this discussion characters are coming out of everywhere to convince me of something
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seems like your character is trying to convince us of something
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
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my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


I(eye) = perception

ego is what changes your perception for better or worse. worse- Belief/fears/prejudices
better- indifference
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
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my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


based on the few posts of yours i can tell you you're caught up in intellect which is a trap of this world. let go of getting caught up in words or semantics and look for the real meaning in what is being said rather than getting caught up in the words. you're so busy dissecting what is written rather than truly LISTENING

you know how i can tell? you make my head hurt. my mind doesn't think anymore. words just come out of my hands or my mouth without thinking. when i come across people like you i know you're in intellect because it hurts my head. your mind is the mind of an egoic character
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seems like suddenly in this discussion characters are coming out of everywhere to convince me of something
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What? People on an internet forum for discussion, discussing their viewpoints? Never!

Why are you posting here if you don't want a discussion?

Is your idea of a discussion just you pontificating?
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
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my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


I(eye) = perception

ego is what changes your perception for better or worse. worse- Belief/fears/prejudices
better- indifference
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


that works

words are so problematic
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
 Quoting: op 24771468


my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


based on the few posts of yours i can tell you you're caught up in intellect which is a trap of this world. let go of getting caught up in words or semantics and look for the real meaning in what is being said rather than getting caught up in the words. you're so busy dissecting what is written rather than truly LISTENING

 Quoting: op 24771468


That's your projection.

You're giving it all away.
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
 Quoting: op 24771468


my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


based on the few posts of yours i can tell you you're caught up in intellect which is a trap of this world. let go of getting caught up in words or semantics and look for the real meaning in what is being said rather than getting caught up in the words. you're so busy dissecting what is written rather than truly LISTENING

you know how i can tell? you make my head hurt. my mind doesn't think anymore. words just come out of my hands or my mouth without thinking. when i come across people like you i know you're in intellect because it hurts my head. your mind is the mind of an egoic character

 Quoting: op 24771468


Exactly, many people no longer include their hearts. Which is indeed a trap.
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seems like suddenly in this discussion characters are coming out of everywhere to convince me of something
 Quoting: op 24771468


What? People on an internet forum for discussion, discussing their viewpoints? Never!

Why are you posting here if you don't want a discussion?

Is your idea of a discussion just you pontificating?
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at this point yes lol

characters like you have nothing to give me
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
 Quoting: op 24771468


my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


based on the few posts of yours i can tell you you're caught up in intellect which is a trap of this world. let go of getting caught up in words or semantics and look for the real meaning in what is being said rather than getting caught up in the words. you're so busy dissecting what is written rather than truly LISTENING

 Quoting: op 24771468


That's your projection.

You're giving it all away.
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okay

i guess you found me out

you're it

lol
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words are so problematic
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and yet here you are, for the last 18 months, typing words
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as a character you can't understand my world which is fine
 Quoting: op 24771468


my = ego



Can you understand my world?

Can you see through my eyes?

Can you think what I think?

Can you feel what I feel?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26407226


based on the few posts of yours i can tell you you're caught up in intellect which is a trap of this world. let go of getting caught up in words or semantics and look for the real meaning in what is being said rather than getting caught up in the words. you're so busy dissecting what is written rather than truly LISTENING

you know how i can tell? you make my head hurt. my mind doesn't think anymore. words just come out of my hands or my mouth without thinking. when i come across people like you i know you're in intellect because it hurts my head. your mind is the mind of an egoic character

 Quoting: op 24771468


Exactly, many people no longer include their hearts. Which is indeed a trap.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


i'm not sure where my words come from. these hands type without my needing to think. words come out of my mouth without needing to think
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seems like suddenly in this discussion characters are coming out of everywhere to convince me of something
 Quoting: op 24771468


What? People on an internet forum for discussion, discussing their viewpoints? Never!

Why are you posting here if you don't want a discussion?

Is your idea of a discussion just you pontificating?
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at this point yes lol

characters like you have nothing to give me

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many people no longer include their hearts. Which is indeed a trap.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


How do I include my heart?
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words are so problematic
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and yet here you are, for the last 18 months, typing words
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yes you got me again

we should give you a gold star

yes i love typing on GLP

it's my therapy

unfortunately there are side effects including characters like yourself

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