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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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Be late with rent, you will come up with it, if not then live with a family member.
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this has been ongoing for 8 years +

estranged from family-of-origin already for long time

it's a new place so we can't get keys without money

we're leaving tomorrow morning the place where the sprinkler incident happened. was a temporary rental for l month only

move tomorrow if we get rent money will be our 6lst residence in 8 years...20 different cities...

i'm sick of this shit
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i've got an idea

find out where the sandy evacuees are staying and go there..
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the map is not the territory
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true

beLIEfs are formed by perception and language
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the words that describe the map are not the territory
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that's the problem with words

silence is ultimately the best

i'll get there
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the map is not the territory

lol
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Be late with rent, you will come up with it, if not then live with a family member.
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this has been ongoing for 8 years +

estranged from family-of-origin already for long time

it's a new place so we can't get keys without money

we're leaving tomorrow morning the place where the sprinkler incident happened. was a temporary rental for l month only

move tomorrow if we get rent money will be our 6lst residence in 8 years...20 different cities...

i'm sick of this shit
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i've got an idea

find out where the sandy evacuees are staying and go there..
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lol

i'm sure living homeless in thailand is much different than in the usa where temperatures plummet in the winter and poverty is hidden
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last time at this IP address location for OP

moving out today
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Thread: Ta'veren - a person around whom the Pattern of the World structures itself
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It sounds like they are describing the Avatars, but they would be incorrect in saying they are "made not born that way."

Avatars incarnate in ages when there chaos and darkness prevail. They restore order. There are several very powerful Avatars walking among us today. They change things. They do so effortlessly, with the slightest of intention (yes, it's controllable by Them) dropped into the Ocean of Awareness.

These are the Enlightened Ones from birth. They reestablish dharma (righteousness) when darkness begins to prevail. They bring balance to all kingdoms -- plant, animal, human, insect, mineral, etc.

We all have the ability to be a so-called Ta'veren to some extent if we can surrender our egos, but not like These Ones who are born with this purpose. They are powerful beyond all measure. We'll never be truly like Them as They are manifestations of Life Itself without ever having had the veil of ego/illusion covering Them. They have absolutely zero limits. And, they are very, very Real. I've met two of Them that I know of, though it could have easily been more than two if They didn't want me to know who They were.
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Do you define yourself as a victim of the world, or as the world?
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maybe OP has been trying to keep himself in the dark for just a little bitch longer?
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freudian slip

in other words OP maybe you fool yourself so you can bitch longer?

you know trap yourself and bitch about it
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That's the most accurate account I've heard.

It's a love for masochism and a love to hate it.
The victim, bitch, victim, bitch, hope, despair, it's bi-polar to the max.
Energy to keep it all going needs more energy, but this op is unconsconcious of what he's doing and what energy he's into.

He's narcististic and since that type of personality gets stuck in loops. Doubtless why he can't see any of it in himself, instead has a grandeur personalized theme for himself.

Strange that he says his partner bitches when he can't see what a whiner he is.

Not only that but he contradicts himself every other sentence.
He never gets sick
He's nauseated all the time and his head is dizzy.
(oh, but he doesn't get sick.)
lol

oh well. He is getting his karmic whip and it is his to bear.
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Meeting an Avatar changes your life, permanently. You are never the same again, no matter if you saw them at a distance once, or spent years at their feet.

I've met four, in all those varying degrees of meeting. I can barely even remember what I was like before I met them. Or rather, my memories are just fine, but the connection to insecurites, confusions and ignorance I had back then simply doesn't exist anymore, so relating to that former state of consciousness is difficult, except to give me more compassion.

Avatars are fire. Fire changes things just by existing. But Avatars are conscious fire, so experiencing them literally boggles the mind, because they are beyond the mind. And yet they can act more normal than normal. They'll crack a casual joke and make a simple observation about a mundane subject, then glance at you and stop time and space and reorient your soul in and instant before they walk away and check on the kitchen, leaving you holding onto the wall, trying to get back into your body. And then you're wrapped in spontaneous stillness so thick that it puts others into meditation just by being near you, and enables you to meditate years later just by recalling the experience.

Or they'll let you sit, meditating in frustration, for months or years while you work through inner blocks, and apparently ignore you (as if they can ignore anything, LOL). But when they want you to feel ignored... you feel ignored! And pissed!

And then the block releases, and the soul-heart bliss flows like silent thunder, and you can't remember what you were mad about.

Rumi wrote in exasperated rage and yearning with his Master (I'm paraphrazing): "I will beat the drum at the Gates of Love, and warn everyone to stay away, so that they don't have to suffer the terrible burning of this blissful love that never ends."
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maybe OP has been trying to keep himself in the dark for just a little bitch longer?
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freudian slip

in other words OP maybe you fool yourself so you can bitch longer?

you know trap yourself and bitch about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2586637




That's the most accurate account I've heard.

It's a love for masochism and a love to hate it.
The victim, bitch, victim, bitch, hope, despair, it's bi-polar to the max.
Energy to keep it all going needs more energy, but this op is unconsconcious of what he's doing and what energy he's into.

He's narcististic and since that type of personality gets stuck in loops. Doubtless why he can't see any of it in himself, instead has a grandeur personalized theme for himself.

Strange that he says his partner bitches when he can't see what a whiner he is.

Not only that but he contradicts himself every other sentence.
He never gets sick
He's nauseated all the time and his head is dizzy.
(oh, but he doesn't get sick.)
lol

oh well. He is getting his karmic whip and it is his to bear.
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I don't think any of us can presume to imagine what he is going through.

He doesn't strike me as Narcissistic at all. He shows many signs of ego death.
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Strange that he says his partner bitches when he can't see what a whiner he is.
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Well, that's shadow projection for you.
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Op: that's why all the opiums hung out like superpowers or me being "The One" or the "2 witnesses"
the illusion is trying to bring us back in because it has lost its grip on us
so maybe this dream is over.




okay how many times do you have to repeat yourself like a stuck record. It's crazy making. That's what's making you sick with your nausea and dizziness, and then oh yeah, you say you're not sick.

You recognize that you are lured by egotistical b.s.
Good.
Then you drift into the following bullshit..........







OP: it's all coming to an end and i'm the key

Oh GOD!!! Your ego's need for 'flights of fancy and grandeur" (look the words up, they're characteristics of a narcistic personality disorder) assign you as the KEY!!!
Wow, fucking WOW!! Could you get any more narcistic and mentally fucked up?
I have to be blunt with you to try to get through to you cause you can't see shit from shinola, such is the disease of your egomaniacal disorder and gentle words won't cut it with someone who's so lost in b.s. like you.


In one sentence you say the egomaniacal opiates are luring you back to claim your a witness, (you identify it and I hope it sticks)
then in the next sentence it doesn't stick, falls flat on your ass and your looped right back to the egomaniacal bullshit you keep spewing that your the key.
Lured right back into your ego.
You just can't FUCKING GET OUT of WANTING TO BE SOMETHING so FUCKING SPECIAL CAN YOU. That's the narcistic flights of fancy. It's textbook. Your ego is your biggest trap. It's what keeps you separate.
Then you b.s. and say you don't want or need anything. Then you say the following...



OP: my partner wanted me to post about the number l3 it is OUR NUMBER our birthdays add up to l3 there are l48 days between our birthdays which add up to l3 okay no more bullshit


No bullshit? That's all you spew! Your ego lures you back into the idea of appealing to your ego as some God/Key/ or whatever else the hell you can come up with to make yourself super duper special so that you remain separated and distinct as special and different and wonderful, rather than the humble energy consciousness which is one energy.


OP: i realize now i am the power. i decide YES or NO to things. i decide whether i react or not

There you go again.


OP: it's all about waiting and tolerating bullshit
NOT gonna happen anymore. i get what i want or i'm outta here. fuck tolerating bullshit anymore
this world is NOT worth tolerating bullshit or waiting.


You're so far gone you don't even get it. You just said that you don't want anything anymore. You're a stuck record now saying that you want to get what you want or your outta here.

You really only want to get things and THAT's what you want, to get material temporal things on your own and be a hero. That's some fucked up ego in your head. NO wonder you can't lift your head. That shit is all head stuff.
It's sick.
Then you have the nerve to say you have no more ego!!
My god, do you even read the shit you spit out?
Do you think that because you're typing it and it's not words it's okay?

You're sick and then you say you never get sick.


drop your fucking Savior Hero complex. It feeds your ego and it is a block. It is the block. It separates you cause it makes you special and THAT is your trap. You want to be fucking special.
THAT in itself is a separation devise.
Then you don't want to be separated.
But then you do cause your ego knows that it can't be SPESHUL if it is humble in one energy unification....it has to feed itself with bullshit to keep it separated.

Your words are a massive trap.

your a clever little trap on glp
sucking people in to think you have something important to say, but all you ever end up spewing is traps of ego to loop the ego and separate from the one energy as much as you can, while trying to pass off on gullible people that you are special divine.

Then you remember to type that you need money and don't have any. Yep, all this thread is for you to keep trying to snag people into your loop of sick beLIEf with hope they send you money and agree with you to give you more energy and power to feed off of.

You haven't fooled me for a second. Not one second.

Do you want to release from your trap?
Do you really?
Not when you keep saying that you want to be the GOD to get stuff, good stuff, things - everything you want when you want it - separate and distinct as a hero and SPESHUL.

THAT'S what THIS pLanet is fOr... Souls like you in differenT degrees and variations of ego.
It's a place for you to GET IT and SEE IT and maybe recognize that you aren't SEPARATE energy while simultaneously saying that you aren't and still claiming that you are separate, SPESHUL fuckers.

GET IT!! Or the ones who still have some sanity will end up remaining in planets similar to this until you GET IT and UNDERSTAND and the ones like you who are almost so far fucking gone will only be absorded back into the energy and neutralized so your disease doesn't spread.

Creating is just fine. It's what energy does.
When it goes rogue like this - like you, it's like a fucking disease energy.
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Strange that he says his partner bitches when he can't see what a whiner he is.
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Well, that's shadow projection for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25072132



U.K. Anonymous Coward 25072132 you see through it.
You've spent some time trying to help him see through it, but to no avail.

A few people he dupes believes him when he tells them his ego is dead....and they haven't the ability to see his ego in every single sentence.
I've observed this before. It's called, the Super EGO.
...highly deceptive and game playing.
To what ends and purpose?
To keep it going while saying it doesn't want to.
A real split!
To pretend it's transcended, evolved by using fancy catch phrases I've heard numerous times elsewhere and by others, but it's still locked in the very stuff it wants to get out of, or claims it is already out of.

Then they'll use other people to defend and bolster their ego delusions of grandeur and flights of fancy, like, so-and-so said I'm so ________.
Thing is, he doesn't apply his knowledge of scripting when they tell him what he wants to hear if it pulls down his house of cards of grandeur and ego he has built up around him.

He'll only accept the script if he likes it and it doesn't pull it all down and reveal his game.
Otherwise he'll say it's all scripted characters without identifying that the same jokers who tell him he's all so wonderful should apply to the same script he wants to give himself.

He doesn't bother to find out why he wants to give himself that script as that would bring his ego and house of cards down and the ego doesn't want that.


His ego wants to be separated in spite of all his b.s. talk of evolving or transcending it.

Super ego is a REALLY BIG head, and that's what he's got...so big that he can't move it around anymore....can't even drive anymore.... nauseated and sick, oh, but don't tell him that nausea = sick, he likes to delude himself that he's not sick and never gets sick.
Such is the sickness of the super ego.
Oh, it's far more tricky than the common ego.
It doesn't want to be exposed at all.

It's a trap to get others to beLIEve him and play into his game and that makes it a collossal HUGE DISTRACTION.
A mINd fUck.
Gashing and Bleeding at every creative fiber.
All head stuff...well, at least he admits that.
Then he even turns that around to somehow try to distract the reader into thinking or beLIEving that is righteous and evolved.

burnit
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on the other hand,
he did shout out to the energy around him that he didn't want any more bullshit.

That's why i turned up to reveal his own bullshit to him.

He's pretty far gone though.
I don't hold out much hope that he will GET IT.

Observe how it unfolds.
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OP was spot on in his OP.

Spot on!

As he said, something, or someone, most definitely is pulling strings in my life, and it annoys the fuck I have NO control whatsoever
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Op: that's why all the opiums hung out like superpowers or me being "The One" or the "2 witnesses"
the illusion is trying to bring us back in because it has lost its grip on us
so maybe this dream is over.




okay how many times do you have to repeat yourself like a stuck record. It's crazy making. That's what's making you sick with your nausea and dizziness, and then oh yeah, you say you're not sick.

You recognize that you are lured by egotistical b.s.
Good.
Then you drift into the following bullshit..........







OP: it's all coming to an end and i'm the key

Oh GOD!!! Your ego's need for 'flights of fancy and grandeur" (look the words up, they're characteristics of a narcistic personality disorder) assign you as the KEY!!!
Wow, fucking WOW!! Could you get any more narcistic and mentally fucked up?
I have to be blunt with you to try to get through to you cause you can't see shit from shinola, such is the disease of your egomaniacal disorder and gentle words won't cut it with someone who's so lost in b.s. like you.


In one sentence you say the egomaniacal opiates are luring you back to claim your a witness, (you identify it and I hope it sticks)
then in the next sentence it doesn't stick, falls flat on your ass and your looped right back to the egomaniacal bullshit you keep spewing that your the key.
Lured right back into your ego.
You just can't FUCKING GET OUT of WANTING TO BE SOMETHING so FUCKING SPECIAL CAN YOU. That's the narcistic flights of fancy. It's textbook. Your ego is your biggest trap. It's what keeps you separate.
Then you b.s. and say you don't want or need anything. Then you say the following...



OP: my partner wanted me to post about the number l3 it is OUR NUMBER our birthdays add up to l3 there are l48 days between our birthdays which add up to l3 okay no more bullshit


No bullshit? That's all you spew! Your ego lures you back into the idea of appealing to your ego as some God/Key/ or whatever else the hell you can come up with to make yourself super duper special so that you remain separated and distinct as special and different and wonderful, rather than the humble energy consciousness which is one energy.


OP: i realize now i am the power. i decide YES or NO to things. i decide whether i react or not

There you go again.


OP: it's all about waiting and tolerating bullshit
NOT gonna happen anymore. i get what i want or i'm outta here. fuck tolerating bullshit anymore
this world is NOT worth tolerating bullshit or waiting.


You're so far gone you don't even get it. You just said that you don't want anything anymore. You're a stuck record now saying that you want to get what you want or your outta here.

You really only want to get things and THAT's what you want, to get material temporal things on your own and be a hero. That's some fucked up ego in your head. NO wonder you can't lift your head. That shit is all head stuff.
It's sick.
Then you have the nerve to say you have no more ego!!
My god, do you even read the shit you spit out?
Do you think that because you're typing it and it's not words it's okay?

You're sick and then you say you never get sick.


drop your fucking Savior Hero complex. It feeds your ego and it is a block. It is the block. It separates you cause it makes you special and THAT is your trap. You want to be fucking special.
THAT in itself is a separation devise.
Then you don't want to be separated.
But then you do cause your ego knows that it can't be SPESHUL if it is humble in one energy unification....it has to feed itself with bullshit to keep it separated.

Your words are a massive trap.

your a clever little trap on glp
sucking people in to think you have something important to say, but all you ever end up spewing is traps of ego to loop the ego and separate from the one energy as much as you can, while trying to pass off on gullible people that you are special divine.

Then you remember to type that you need money and don't have any. Yep, all this thread is for you to keep trying to snag people into your loop of sick beLIEf with hope they send you money and agree with you to give you more energy and power to feed off of.

You haven't fooled me for a second. Not one second.

Do you want to release from your trap?
Do you really?
Not when you keep saying that you want to be the GOD to get stuff, good stuff, things - everything you want when you want it - separate and distinct as a hero and SPESHUL.

THAT'S what THIS pLanet is fOr... Souls like you in differenT degrees and variations of ego.
It's a place for you to GET IT and SEE IT and maybe recognize that you aren't SEPARATE energy while simultaneously saying that you aren't and still claiming that you are separate, SPESHUL fuckers.

GET IT!! Or the ones who still have some sanity will end up remaining in planets similar to this until you GET IT and UNDERSTAND and the ones like you who are almost so far fucking gone will only be absorded back into the energy and neutralized so your disease doesn't spread.

Creating is just fine. It's what energy does.
When it goes rogue like this - like you, it's like a fucking disease energy.

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You seem really fucked up man.

Go look in the mirror. You are projecting your own shit onto OP and you can't even see it
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on the other hand,
he did shout out to the energy around him that he didn't want any more bullshit.

That's why i turned up to reveal his own bullshit to him.

He's pretty far gone though.
I don't hold out much hope that he will GET IT.

Observe how it unfolds.
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What did OP do to you? You seem to have a personal grudge. Did OP refuse your expertise? You are really fucked up man
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Strange that he says his partner bitches when he can't see what a whiner he is.
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Well, that's shadow projection for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25072132



U.K. Anonymous Coward 25072132 you see through it.
You've spent some time trying to help him see through it, but to no avail.

A few people he dupes believes him when he tells them his ego is dead....and they haven't the ability to see his ego in every single sentence.
I've observed this before. It's called, the Super EGO.
...highly deceptive and game playing.
To what ends and purpose?
To keep it going while saying it doesn't want to.
A real split!
To pretend it's transcended, evolved by using fancy catch phrases I've heard numerous times elsewhere and by others, but it's still locked in the very stuff it wants to get out of, or claims it is already out of.

Then they'll use other people to defend and bolster their ego delusions of grandeur and flights of fancy, like, so-and-so said I'm so ________.
Thing is, he doesn't apply his knowledge of scripting when they tell him what he wants to hear if it pulls down his house of cards of grandeur and ego he has built up around him.

He'll only accept the script if he likes it and it doesn't pull it all down and reveal his game.
Otherwise he'll say it's all scripted characters without identifying that the same jokers who tell him he's all so wonderful should apply to the same script he wants to give himself.

He doesn't bother to find out why he wants to give himself that script as that would bring his ego and house of cards down and the ego doesn't want that.


His ego wants to be separated in spite of all his b.s. talk of evolving or transcending it.

Super ego is a REALLY BIG head, and that's what he's got...so big that he can't move it around anymore....can't even drive anymore.... nauseated and sick, oh, but don't tell him that nausea = sick, he likes to delude himself that he's not sick and never gets sick.
Such is the sickness of the super ego.
Oh, it's far more tricky than the common ego.
It doesn't want to be exposed at all.

It's a trap to get others to beLIEve him and play into his game and that makes it a collossal HUGE DISTRACTION.
A mINd fUck.
Gashing and Bleeding at every creative fiber.
All head stuff...well, at least he admits that.
Then he even turns that around to somehow try to distract the reader into thinking or beLIEving that is righteous and evolved.

burnit
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My guess is that you are a guru wannabe and OP didn't listen to your bullshit.
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[link to www.shamanswell.org]
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My guess is that you are a guru wannabe and OP didn't listen to your bullshit.
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Now who's projecting?
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My guess is that you are a guru wannabe and OP didn't listen to your bullshit.
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Now who's projecting?
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That's my point exactly.
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OP-

You mentioned that you were pulling out of this projection. Maybe this will help. I feel this pertains to your partner and yourself.

Projection is the key- everything we see, touch, taste, or smell is merely a projection of how our mind interprets the electronic signal it is receiving. Each of us has our own "story", which acts as a filter to distort the signal and manipulate it so it fits into our version of "reality". The key, for ALL of us, is to dettach from our "stories' and filters and allow the electronic impulses to surge through us without being processed through our filters. When this is achieved, one reaches enlightment. In my experiences, the only brief times I have felt this was during periods of heavy meditation and stillness. The mind must become very still- which is why The Thugs in Charge have created an environment of distraction and endless noise.

The true nature of existence is that to which existence is irrelevant.

Nothing is without existence.
It is wholly experiencing your perceptions about yourself.
Existence is within nothing.
By understanding your perceptions you remember what is true.

That to which existence is irrelevant is as non-existence.
Non-existence needs not prove its imperceptible truth.
That to which existence is sought is as infinite illusion.
Illusion forgets its imperceptible truth to seem real.

Existence is like a mirror that understands no real shape.
Non-existence is like a shape that understands no mirrors.
Illusion is as looking to the mirror to think one is real.
Truth is as looking to one's self to feel what truth is.

True being cannot be perceived for the perception.
For it is without it.
The illusion of being can re-member truth.
As it is within it.

That which is seen to exist seeks only
That which makes it feel extant.
True existence is not of that which depends
But of that which nothing knows of.

The nature of existence is the experience of resistance.
Without resistance, there is only that which is true.
One can only forget that all is the same.
Re-member the source of infinity and illusions disappear.

Existence is like an ocean.
Being is like the summit of each wave.
Not resisting itself, it does as it is.
It forgets itself, and is more than it is.

The truth of oneself is irrelevant.
How does truth know otherwise.
One cannot help but to already be true.
Though one can only perceive illusion.

Existence is in formation.
Information is being.
Being is infinite.
Infinity is resisting.

Non-existence is free of form.
Everything at once.
Nothing at all.
The unformed is within the source.

Everything that exists is illusion.
Nothing-in-particular is more true.
Everything is nothing is most true.
Truth is so real it need not exist.

Resistance is fear.
Fear of truth is the only fear,
That the self would no longer exist.
The need to exist is to misunderstand true self.

Perception is you reflected without beginning or end.
Opposition is as two sides of the same spherical infinity.
Expression is how you realise your own understanding.
Truth is what is without any perception.

True unity is imperceptible.
There is nothing relative about it.
What relation is there when all things embrace.
What fear is there when love is understood.

How naked truth is.
So vulnerable nothing touches it.
So loving nothing hates it.
How clothed existence is.

What fears one when fears are loved.
What fears one when nothing resists.
The fear of one creates the separations,
And makes illusions into a reality.

The fear of unity occupies one
With thoughts that seem more real.
How real is something that withers.
Busying oneself with details keeps one ignorant of the simple truth.

One's fears are illusions of what one is.
All illusions are desires.
All desires are illusions.
For one is already everything one can be.

For one to exist one remembers the illusion.
The source cannot be understood unless one forgets its perception.
The truth is perceived when one unperceives.
The imperceptible truth is fully remembered when there is nothing.

One is all,
All is one.
One perceives not what one is not.
One perceives only what is one.

One is not one
Since there is only one.
One is nothing in particular.
One need exist only when one forgets oneself.

Love is remembrance
Of more of what one truly is.
Love for everything is realisation
That the source is without specification.

Hate is forgetting love.
It is love complexified.
These things cannot be done.
The self is only remembered.

Resisting unity, it multiplies.
Resisting hate, there is more of it.
Remember the self and love is all ready.
Forget the self and one is confused.

Existence is like knowledge;
The more of it you realise,
The more truth you have forgotten.
What truth is so precise.

Everything here
Is all resisted.
What is now not
Is resisted not.

Perception is being surrounded by mirrors.
Resist the reflection and more are perceived.
Re-member the reflection and separations will disappear.
Realise you are what you perceive yet more than what can be.

The most important thing is endless expression,
The continual illustration of remembrance.
What you are is the source of existence.
Beyond being anything in particular.

How do you perceive something to be real
If only you know of things through comparison.
What is reality or illusion in a sea of questions.
How illusory is anything that seems comparable.

One reflects itself infinitely.
All things are the same.
Separations seem as we remember and forget.
Go to the source of perceiving to remember what really is.

You experience what you re-member.
Details how you re-member the one.
The whole forgets each detail.
The end resists its own truth.

One thing exists of infinite illustration.
Something is what it does not seem to be.
One thing is not itself and not another.
Everything seems, for no thing is true.

What is understood cannot be
Without what is misunderstood.
What is created cannot be
Without what is uncreated.

Something in particular is most forgotten.
Nothing in particular is most re-membered.
All of nothing in particular.
Nothing in particular is all.

The only thing truly known
Is no thing is truly known.
The only thing certain
Is no thing is certain.

The only thing that truly exists
Is that to which existence is irrelevant.
The only thing that is true
Is that nothing is true, including this.

The imperceptible is so basic,
Existence is irrelevant to it.
When existence is perceived,
Existence is not understood.

The imperceptible is easy.
If it is made more complex,
It will confuse ignorance,
And simply not exist in it.

The perceptible is infinitely divided.
It is so desirable to misunderstand.
It is frightening to unify things,
For everything must become free.

The perceptible is infinitely complex.
It is so hard to hide the truth.
The perceptible is actually imperceptible.
Perhaps the greatest illusion of all.

One's perception is
One's belief of oneself.
How long before one believes
That what one truly is is imperceptible.

When you are the whole universe is.
Act and the universe acts with you.
Take the universe into consideration all ways.
Think of yourself as being everything that is.

Where you are the whole universe is.
Nothing outside of you, nothing within.
The infinite being is as close to your heart
As nothing is to something in particular.

Anything not perceived is that which is perceived.
Nothing need exist outside of perception.
Perception is resistance illustrated.
Everything resists truth.

The illusion of a wheel turning
Is the complexification of its central source.
Yet the source cannot be perceived.
For the source is nowhere specific.

The source of resistance is non-resistance.
What can resist what knows no resistance.
The source of all things is so true
It does not do have to do anything.

What is small is big as well.
Small cannot seem to be unless bigger is bigger.
What is big is small as well.
Big cannot seem to be unless smaller is smaller.

The source cannot perceive itself as being the source.
The source is everywhere and nowhere.
Being everything yet nothing it does not think itself
The source of all that is yet is not.

Truth is free of experience.
It is free of any event.
Truth is free of existence.
It is free of any being.

The nature of time's pace
Is to remember what is forgotten.
Remembering one by realising the infinite illustrations.
Where is one exactly but nowhere in particular.

Remembering here and now
Your source is remembered.
You are more this loving
Than any remembered thing.

If you are,
You will think yourself not to be.
If you are not,
You will think yourself to be.

If you are an illusion,
You will seem to yourself to be real.
If you are real,
You will seem to yourself to be an illusion.

Looking out, infinite illusions are seen.
Looking in, basic truth is close to feeling.
Truth cannot be explained,
Why when you are most true.

What is perceived
Is only illusion,
As what is perceived
Is wholly incomplete.

One has not to understand existence.
One can only remember what one already is.
What reason should you perceive something,
If no truth of your own is perceived.

You must be something that you are not
In order to be more of what you truly are.
You can only be more of what you truly are
By being what you do not think yourself to be.

Being is remembering that everything is already.
Doing is resisting what naturally tends to be.
Being is remembering more of what one really is.
Doing is resisting more of what one really is.

Existing,
It is not that one forgets to remember,
But existing,
One remembers to forget.

Nothing extant is complete.
Only nothing completes existence.
Without nothing, there is nothing.
Nothing is more complete than anything.

All things exist as one, at once.
Everything can be perceived from anything.
Something tries to illustrate nothing.
It endlessly tries to illustrate nothing.

Everything is perceived
As nothing is forgotten.
Nothing is remembered
As everything perceives.

Nothing is the bond that holds all things together.
Without nothing, the illusion of things cannot be.
All things are illusions that forget what is true.
Within nothing there seems to be something.

How can one think of everything at once
From a changing perception.
How can one perceive nothing at once
From any perception.

One can remember oneself as the source
By perceiving freely,
By thinking without resistance,
And being one self.

Everything that exists has the single purpose
Of resisting what is true by seeking an endlessness.
Remembering the source of existence,
The infinite distraction is no longer needed.

What makes you feel like you are
Makes you forget what you are.
What seems to exist from without
Is not remembered from within.

How can two things exist in an infinite universe.
How can anything finite exist in any universe.
How can a source exist anywhere.
How can something really be the ultimate source.

To perceive once your own perception.
Is to remember your self as the source of existence.
To think once your own thoughts.
Is to remember your self as the cause of being.

In one perception
Is the entire universe.
In each moment
It is perceived anew.

To want is to ignore everything one already is.
What one cannot possess is nothing.
Everything one perceives is one's already.
Nothing can all ways be forgotten.

Nothing is easy to forget.
Something is easy to remember.
Nothing is difficult to remember.
Something is difficult to forget.

Something that can be attained
Is not worth attaining.
The illusions exhaust one infinitely.
The illusion is not what it seems to be.

Remembering your inherent value,
There is nothing more valuable.
The only thing that can be done
Is remember or forget the truth.

Nothing is the most difficult to remember,
As it requires no effort.
Nothing in particular is the most difficult to be,
As it requires no action.

Creating something is easy,
As it only requires forgetting unity.
Creating something in particular is easy,
As it requires forgetting inherent wholeness.

In everything you do,
Its opposite you also do.
In everything you say,
Its opposite you also say.

In everything that you feel,
Its opposite you also feel.
In everything that you are,
Its opposite you also are.

By one thing,
All things are.
Everything in one thing.
One thing in everything.

What does the source of existence matter.
Why should anything have a purpose.
What would be the purpose of the purpose.
Why should the truth be remembered.

All things come from the nothing all things really are.
The truest thing is the least resistant to everything.
The least resistant thing is most the source of existence.
The source of existence resists not anything.

One can only perceive one's thought.
One can only experience one's self.
One can only hate what one is.
One can only love what one is.

Remember one, sixty in one,
Thirty in two, twenty in three,
Fifteen in four, twelve in five.
All things equal in whole and in part.

The more basic one is,
The less resistant everything is.
In simplicity there is more abundance,
In complexity there is more resistance.

You are more what you are unaware of
Than that which you seem to be aware.
Something is more of what nothing is
Than what something seems most to be.

Doing is forgetting
That you are.
Being is remembering
That you are.

The more you resist something
The more you are already
Affected by what you resist,
And the more you are of what you resist.

What you perceive yourself
To be
Is what you perceive the imperceptible
To be.

If any thing was complete in perception,
All things would be perceived the same.
When any thing is complete in perception,
Nothing is misunderstood.

You consider your self as you consider others.
You love your self as you love others.
You remember your self as you remember others.
The only the truth is of what you are.

When anything is done to the last
The same is done to the first.
For infinity is where you are;
The source is everywhere and nowhere in particular.

Everything is the source
Of everything.
Nothing is the source
Of nothing.

Everything is nothing specific.
Nothing is everything specific.
What anything is is nothing.
Nothing is what is is not.

Only when one is vulnerable
Can one be open to the source.
Only when one forgets beliefs
Can one remember what is true.

Think what is not thought.
Feel what is not felt.
See what is not seen.
To understand what is true.

We can only really perceive something
By perceiving what it seems not to be.
We can only really understand something
By understanding what it seems not to be.

Everything is in the whole
Of your perception this moment.
Nothing is not what you are.
Nothing knows no existence.

When the truth is realised
It is no longer true.
When the imperceptible is perceived
It is no longer imperceptible.

Nothing is true.
Nothing is false.
Nothing is perceptible.
Nothing is imperceptible.

What is perceived is
How you remember your self.
All things perceived
Is you in complete.

The only thing that can be seen is nothing.
The only thing that can be thought is nothing.
The only thing that can be done is nothing.
With nothing nothing is done not.

Everything perceived
Is nothing illustrated.
The only perception there is
Is the misunderstanding of truth.

One perceives not
That which perceives not.
One perceives only illusion
That truth does not remember.

Loving another,
Another must love.
Doing something,
Something must do.

One does not perceive,
But believe that one does.
How sleepy perceptions are
On dense clouds of illusion.

Things only seem different
As existence is not wholly perceived.
Existence only seems to be real
As things seem wholly different.

Truth is you without the perception of you.
Truth is you without the misunderstanding of you.
Illusion is the misunderstanding of truth.
Illusion is needed to perceive existence.

One remembers the whole of existence
As one remembers nothing in particular.
One remembers the whole of oneself
As one forgets the endless details.

To embrace that not you
Is to remember yourself.
To love that which hates
Is to embrace your being.

The more something is resisted,
The more it will be perceived.
All things are the same one.
Something cannot be forgotten.

Each thing resists
What it is truly.
What each thing truly is
Is nothing in particular.

As everything is resisted
Nothing is truly resisted.
As everything is perceived
Nothing is truly perceived.

All desires are fears.
All fears are desires.
Desires know no existence.
Existence knows only fear.

Whatever one resists, exists.
Whatever exists, one resists.
Whatever exists not is one all ready.
Whatever one resists not needs not exist.

Big is small.
Small is big.
The opposite validates the other's existence.
The other's existence validates the opposite.

How old is time to itself.
How big is space to itself.
How you are you to yourself.
How infinite is infinity to itself.

The perception of nothing
Is why perceptions are illusions.
Nothing is wholly independent
Of the infinite perceptions.

All is less than a single thought.
One is all ways infinite.
Nothing understands it.
Something misunderstands it.

The less one perceives,
The more one remembers oneself.
The less one perceives,
The more one remembers all to be one.

The origin of something
Is the perception of something.
The truth of something
Is that which is not perceived.

The more you fear the truth
The more you seek to validate your existence.
The more you fear your self
The more you seek others for your own truths.

As the source of existence is forgotten,
Its simplicity seems to be complex.
As the source of existence is remembered,
Its complexity seems to be simple.

One seems to exist
As one remembers what one really is.
As one remembers what one really is,
One needs not exist.

If the truth of you were perceptible,
Perceptions would change not.
If the truth of you were imperceptible,
You would remember it not.

Perceive nothing in particular,
And all things are perceived.
Remember this the source,
And all is remembered.

All things are true,
Nothing is most true.
Perceive something in particular
And truth is forgotten.

The illusion is perceived.
The truth is not perceived.
Everything is the illusion.
Nothing is the truth.

Something cannot ever truly be exact.
Something is not what it seems to be.
Anything is really nothing in particular.
Nothing is really anything in particular.

That which does not see for itself is blind yet sees all.
That which lives not for itself is immortal yet eternal.
That which acts not for itself is nowhere yet everywhere.
That which accepts everything is everything yet nothing.

To resist is to remember not that one is everything.
To desire is to remember not that one already possesses.
To act is to remember not all things are all ready.
To think is to remember not the thought that is there.

By knowing, wanting, thinking, or acting not,
The truth is near perception.
By acting, thinking, wanting, or knowing,
Are illusions near perception.

Being is the imperceptible.
Being not is the perceptible.
All is the imperceptible illusion.
Nothing is the perceptible truth.

The truth is imperceptible.
One is true as one does not realise it.
The truth sees nothing in particular.
Nothing in particular perceives not truth.

Remember the source is complete.
Remember the source is true.
Remember the source is forgotten.
Remember the source is what you are.

Everything exists not in completion
If not for your complete existence.
The more you remember your self,
The more complete everything is.

For something to be true,
Its opposite is also true.
For an illusion to be,
All things must be illusory.

Around every source
Everything is found.
Within every center
The source is nothing.

Nothing is extant if it is not.
Nothing is true if it is extant.
Everything is extant if it is not.
Everything is true if it is not.

Something is truly
Nothing in particular.
Nothing is truly
Everything that seems.

Truth is remembered not
When beliefs know perceptions.
Illusions are forgotten not
When something is perceived.

A wheel forgets its source as it turns.
Its size makes complex the simplicity.
The wheel complexifies itself to try to equal
The simplicity of its source that it remembers.

The source is so efficient, nothing is done.
The source is so simple, nothing is seen.
The source is so true, all things seek it.
The source is so real, it exists not.

A thing remembers and thinks its exists,
But non-existence could not forget.
A thing forgets to think it exists,
And the source remains forever constant.

By nothing is anything true.
Truth is not what restricts.
By nothing is truth anything.
Truth is not what resists.

For an answer to be perceived,
The question must be expressly understood.
For the source to be remembered,
The perception must be expressly forgotten.

Fear is the energy of illusion.
Only illusion is perceptible.
The nothing of truth is feared.
This fear is dependent upon the perception.

What seems good
Is not really good
But is less resisted
In that which loves.

What seems bad
Is not really bad
But is more resisted
In that which fears.

Everything extant must be perceived
Before one understands what something is.
Everything extant must be experienced
Before one understands what is happening.

In the source
The complexity surrounds us.
In the perceptible
Nothing is truly found.

What is sought
Is existence.
What is sought not
Is non-existence.

Perceive others
To seem extant.
Perceive one self
To be extant.

Whatever you perceive in another
You are also experiencing of you.
You are experiencing your self
Whenever you perceive an other.

Resistance is fearing self.
Resistance is illusion.
There is nothing to resist.
Not resisting is truth.

When the outside is forgotten
The inside is remembered.
All is complex and seems
To remember the simple and is.

The more non-resistant something is
The more existence is understood.
The more truth is misunderstood
The more resistance seems to be.

Non-resistance is nothing.
As it does not resist resistance.
Resistance is everything.
And everything is really nothing.

Why is the same thing said
And said and said and said.
Why is one thing extant
And only extant in everything.

By opposing
You create something to oppose.
By resisting
You create something to resist.

In this way
Simple things seem complex,
Easy things seem hard,
Understandings seem confused.

To pursue what you create
And not the source of you,
Is to pursue illusion
And resist your truth.

To perceive not something
Is everything perceived.
To remember the source
Is nothing perceived.

Truth is ramified not.
Everything ramifies its truth.
What is illusion is truth forgotten.
What is truth is illusion remembered.

Nothing is perceived
And everything seems to be.
Everything is illusion
And nothing is existence.

The imperceptible is the only truth
Of one's existence.
Existence, to fear not what truly is
The source of one.

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