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Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?

 
Anonymous Coward
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05/07/2011 01:38 PM
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Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In what US states would this be legal or illegal?
Case in point, anyone who trespasses on Area-51 property is liable to be shot by armed guards. Do regular citizens have the same rights?
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05/07/2011 01:40 PM
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05/07/2011 01:41 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Not , you'll be charged with murder or attempted murder
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05/07/2011 01:42 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No unless said trespasser is trying to kill you. But even then you could end up behind bars in some states.
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05/07/2011 01:43 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Not, you'll be charged with murder or attempted murder
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374083


What if they're armed?

Or

What if your sign reads, "No trespassing, violators will be shot"
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05/07/2011 01:43 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Only if they have aggressively entered your home without permission with nefarious intent.

You can’t be like “Hey neighbor come here for a sec”, then be like macgun
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05/07/2011 01:44 PM

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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Depends on STATE law and NOT federal. Depends on what they are doing. A few states have property protection laws including the protection of livestock.
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No unless said trespasser is trying to kill you. But even then you could end up behind bars in some states.
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??? Why would you end up in bars if someone was trying to kill you and you defended yourself?
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05/07/2011 01:47 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No unless said trespasser is trying to kill you. But even then you could end up behind bars in some states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373875


??? Why would you end up in bars if someone was trying to kill you and you defended yourself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1254000


Don't be surprised. An old lady got sued by someone who tried to rob her because her roof was covered in snow and the theif fell and sipped into her pool. She almost got put in jail and was charged 10k I think.
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No unless said trespasser is trying to kill you. But even then you could end up behind bars in some states.
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??? Why would you end up in bars if someone was trying to kill you and you defended yourself?
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Because criminals have more rights than you do.
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05/07/2011 01:49 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In Florida if you have no trespassing signs up and you feel threatened you can shoot.
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05/07/2011 01:49 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
I think the laws vary from state to state. You would have to check for the state you live in.
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05/07/2011 01:49 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In Florida if you have no trespassing signs up and you feel threatened you can shoot.
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Yep.
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05/07/2011 01:52 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In texas you can.
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05/07/2011 01:53 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
If anybody trespasses, you can't assault them in any way. You can't point a gun at them, or you will have YOUR ass hauled off to jail.

If anyone trespasses, if on land or house, and points a gun at you, ready to shoot at you, you will have two options:

1. You get shot or killed by the trespasser
2. You shoot, or kill the trespasser and go to jail.

Your choice, but either way, the criminal is in the better position than you are!
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05/07/2011 01:53 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No. But if someone's threatening your life with a lethal weapon you can defend yourself. But only if your life is in danger. NOT just because someone's walking in your yard! That's silly...
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05/07/2011 01:56 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
If anybody trespasses, you can't assault them in any way. You can't point a gun at them, or you will have YOUR ass hauled off to jail.

If anyone trespasses, if on land or house, and points a gun at you, ready to shoot at you, you will have two options:

1. You get shot or killed by the trespasser
2. You shoot, or kill the trespasser and go to jail.

Your choice, but either way, the criminal is in the better position than you are!
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Maybe in Canada.
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05/07/2011 01:57 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
research to see if your state has adopted "the castle doctrine"

this doctrine allows someone to use deadly force to prevent someone from entering your home if you have reasonable cause to believe they intend to harm or kill you or any of the other occupants in the house.

in many states, there is no duty to retreat.

however, you can't just shoot at people who come on your property unless they were shooting at you or something.

if someone comes on your property and you don't want them there, you have the right to order them to leave your property.

if they do not leave, you call the police and the person will be arrested/cited for criminal trespass.

if there is someone specific that you don't want on your property, you can contact your local police dept and have a "no trespass order" taken against that party. that way if they come onto your property in the future, they will automatically be arrested.

also, if you post a no trespassing sign on your property, that alone qualifies as an order not to come on your property, and anyone who disregards the sign and comes onto your property anyway is already guilty of trespass without the property owner having to first make a verbal order to leave.

hope this helps
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05/07/2011 02:05 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In texas you can.
 Quoting: nzreva


This is not true. You can't just shoot a trespasser without cause and the threat if imminent danger and there is no reasonable expectation of escaping such danger.

[link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us]

SUBCHAPTER B. JUSTIFICATION GENERALLY
§9.22. Necessity.

Conduct is justified if:

(1) the actor reasonably believes the conduct is immediately necessary to avoid imminent harm;

(2) the desirability and urgency of avoiding the harm clearly outweigh, according to ordinary standards of reasonableness, the harm sought to be prevented by the law proscribing the conduct; and

(3) a legislative purpose to exclude the justification claimed for the conduct does not otherwise plainly appear.
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05/07/2011 02:09 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
*unless there is
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05/07/2011 02:09 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
If anybody trespasses, you can't assault them in any way. You can't point a gun at them, or you will have YOUR ass hauled off to jail.

If anyone trespasses, if on land or house, and points a gun at you, ready to shoot at you, you will have two options:

1. You get shot or killed by the trespasser
2. You shoot, or kill the trespasser and go to jail.

Your choice, but either way, the criminal is in the better position than you are!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1299003


You must call the police and wait for them to deal with it. If you are impatient and just cannot wait, remember the triple S law.
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05/07/2011 02:34 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In Connecticut the person has to be in your bedroom to shoot them, and you must shoot to kill not injure ..

.. by law you can not even touch the person .. a couple towns away from me this dude on crack reached into this guys window and he cut his hand off with w/e it was he was carrying .. and the guy who did it was arrested and later sued .. pretty messed up ..

are you thinking of sneaking into somewhere dangerous? .. and fun :D
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05/07/2011 02:38 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In Texas you can.
 Quoting: nzreva


That kinda goes without saying.
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05/07/2011 02:42 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
In texas you can.
 Quoting: nzreva


Yep. It's called a "castle law"...goes back to English Commonwealth Law(a man's home is his castle). But in most cases the intruder MUST be inside your home, not just on the property...therefore a threat to you or yours. It does get reviewed and heard by a Grand Jury...they actually decide whether or not to bring charges...usually abiding by the recommendation of the local DA. Obviously, if you threatened the dead guy last week, they're gonna be VERY suspicious.
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Only if they have aggressively entered your home without permission with nefarious intent.

You can’t be like “Hey neighbor come here for a sec”, then be like macgun
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05/07/2011 03:02 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Of course you can. Then bury em deep and STFU.

The swine revenue collectors are not employed to HELP YOU they sold their souls to moloch worshippers for donut money a long time ago.
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05/07/2011 03:03 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No
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Referring to the Castle Law in PA.....maybe...
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05/07/2011 03:04 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
"Trespassers will be fondled"


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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
No unless said trespasser is trying to kill you. But even then you could end up behind bars in some states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373875


??? Why would you end up in bars if someone was trying to kill you and you defended yourself?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1254000


Because libtard lawyers have fucked the law up so badly, it now punishes victims and protects criminals.
Don't run. You'll just die tired.
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"Trespassers will be fondled"


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"Caution: TSA Security Zone. Tresspassers will be disrobed, photographed, and laughed at during coffee break"
Don't run. You'll just die tired.
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05/07/2011 03:06 PM
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Re: Are you allowed to shoot people if they trespass on your property?
Not, you'll be charged with murder or attempted murder
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1374083


What if they're armed?

Or

What if your sign reads, "No trespassing, violators will be shot"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1254000


No.. not even then.. They have to be trying to kill you.. Then and only then can you shot them. And it has to be Equal force with equal force.. If someone is trying to Punch you, you can not Kill them with a firearm. You can wound but not kill. It changes as the weapons change. You also have to be in FEAR for your life or the lives of your fam or the people around you

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