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i am throwing out a few comments i made in other threads because these comments were a fractal on what was being talked about and i think this deserves it's own thread because it's just so weird.

here are my comments:

i have never been into chocolate ever and the last few weeks i have been really into it. it's odd.
so i can't even remember how i got on the track of chocolate yesterday but it is seriously coveted like oil or gold. the elite are obsessed with continuing to make it and having us eat it. the investors in chocolate or the same as the world bank, etc. whenever i would do searches on things i was interested in, it always lead to something about chocolate inevitably. and then MM's had a new meaning. and Mars.
see how into this they are?
[link to www.icco.org]

also, the mayans, supposedly, never gave chocolate to women or children. it was only for men. now they market it almost exclusively towards women and children.

i found out it has a chemical in it called theobromine (i think that is what it is called? (weirdly, also called xantheos...but you can't find any info on that)

this chemical acts on the vestal nerve to depolarize it.
i guess there are 2 parts of the nerve and maybe to depolarize it means to numb it. that is what it was seeming to point to.
it only caught my eye because on oprah the other day (i know this is really linking a bunch of odd things together) and the director tom shadyac was on and he said to oprah that she was basically a "drug pusher" for the this nerve.
you can find the quote by googling. and he even aid that they used oprah's shows to study it more uin depth. it's the nerve which connects us to our throat and heart. it has to do with empathy and the fight or flight response.

so, just doing free association here by intuition, it would seem that chocolate ENHANCES us to keep our heart in the shape of a closed fleur dis lys, energetically. and that it reduces kundalini energy. which may be why they are so hung ho on making sure we all keep eating chocolate and even more of it even tho it is not even a sutainable resource or has any nutritional value really.

the other thing that has this chemical is tea.
which is interesting and related but i don't want to go off on too many tangents.

and btw, am i the only one who sees all the massive symbology and undercurrent of the remake of willy wonka, charlie and the chocolate factory?
so intense.

and i know this sounds crazy, but that is why i am on GLP (ha :) but i think this ties in with child sacrifice or something to do with purity.

or maybe chocolate just makes us taste better to the E.T.s

just throwing out a bunch of stuff and see what sticks....


----

please go to the iccco.org website and then FOLLOW the trail. it's insane. i wish i had someone else to talk about this because, as frolicky as this sounds, i think that is where "they" hide the best. in children's nursery rhymes. in candy. in plain site. it's devious.


i have so much to say about this i will add later, when i have time.
but there is something devious going on with chocolate and children's nursery rhymes. i think this is the beginning of the brainwashing a la disney.

i don't think chocolate is in itself, evil. it has good and bad properties as do all plants. but i think we need to be aware of the ENORMOUS amount of energy that is going into the marketing of chococlate.

and even how this spills into pedophelia.

*twilight theme song*


help me out guys. if there is anyone who can put these puzzle pieces together i know it's you.
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Soy lecithin

High fructose corn syrup

Corn starch

Usually 1 or all 3 in chocolate bars, cookies, ice cream etc.,

This is what they want you eating...all G.E./GMO crops oh and canola oil
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i am throwing out a few comments i made in other threads because these comments were a fractal on what was being talked about and i think this deserves it's own thread because it's just so weird.

here are my comments:

i have never been into chocolate ever and the last few weeks i have been really into it. it's odd.
so i can't even remember how i got on the track of chocolate yesterday but it is seriously coveted like oil or gold. the elite are obsessed with continuing to make it and having us eat it. the investors in chocolate or the same as the world bank, etc. whenever i would do searches on things i was interested in, it always lead to something about chocolate inevitably. and then MM's had a new meaning. and Mars.
see how into this they are?
[link to www.icco.org]

also, the mayans, supposedly, never gave chocolate to women or children. it was only for men. now they market it almost exclusively towards women and children.

i found out it has a chemical in it called theobromine (i think that is what it is called? (weirdly, also called xantheos...but you can't find any info on that)

this chemical acts on the vestal nerve to depolarize it.
i guess there are 2 parts of the nerve and maybe to depolarize it means to numb it. that is what it was seeming to point to.
it only caught my eye because on oprah the other day (i know this is really linking a bunch of odd things together) and the director tom shadyac was on and he said to oprah that she was basically a "drug pusher" for the this nerve.
you can find the quote by googling. and he even aid that they used oprah's shows to study it more uin depth. it's the nerve which connects us to our throat and heart. it has to do with empathy and the fight or flight response.

so, just doing free association here by intuition, it would seem that chocolate ENHANCES us to keep our heart in the shape of a closed fleur dis lys, energetically. and that it reduces kundalini energy. which may be why they are so hung ho on making sure we all keep eating chocolate and even more of it even tho it is not even a sutainable resource or has any nutritional value really.

the other thing that has this chemical is tea.
which is interesting and related but i don't want to go off on too many tangents.

and btw, am i the only one who sees all the massive symbology and undercurrent of the remake of willy wonka, charlie and the chocolate factory?
so intense.

and i know this sounds crazy, but that is why i am on GLP (ha :) but i think this ties in with child sacrifice or something to do with purity.

or maybe chocolate just makes us taste better to the E.T.s

just throwing out a bunch of stuff and see what sticks....


----

please go to the iccco.org website and then FOLLOW the trail. it's insane. i wish i had someone else to talk about this because, as frolicky as this sounds, i think that is where "they" hide the best. in children's nursery rhymes. in candy. in plain site. it's devious.


i have so much to say about this i will add later, when i have time.
but there is something devious going on with chocolate and children's nursery rhymes. i think this is the beginning of the brainwashing a la disney.

i don't think chocolate is in itself, evil. it has good and bad properties as do all plants. but i think we need to be aware of the ENORMOUS amount of energy that is going into the marketing of chococlate.

and even how this spills into pedophelia.

*twilight theme song*


help me out guys. if there is anyone who can put these puzzle pieces together i know it's you.
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Soy lecithin

High fructose corn syrup

Corn starch

Usually 1 or all 3 in chocolate bars, cookies, ice cream etc.,

This is what they want you eating...all G.E./GMO crops oh and canola oil
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Soy lecithin

High fructose corn syrup

Corn starch

Usually 1 or all 3 in chocolate bars, cookies, ice cream etc.,

This is what they want you eating...all G.E./GMO crops oh and canola oil
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no, i know that. i am speaking SPECIFICALLY about cocoa, tho. i should have been more clear and not said chocolate. i should have said cocoa.
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Pure cocao DOES have nutritional value

however, that crap that Hershey's, Mars and Willy Wonka call chocolate are full of refined sugar and fillers - very little real cocao

cocao
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you have chocolate in USA now?
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Pure cocao DOES have nutritional value

however, that crap that Hershey's, Mars and Willy Wonka call chocolate are full of refined sugar and fillers - very little real cocao

:cocao:
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yes, it does have some value. everything does.
what i am trying to point out now tho is they have made it a TOP PRIORITY to market to the consumer via 'the nutritional value of chocoalte" and "fair trade" and all.

they know this is the market now.
choclate is not a sustainable resource yet they want to make it BIGGER and expand it anyway,. even tho it makes no logical sense, nutritional or sustainably to do so.

it's just interesting to see how OBSESSED they are with expanding chocolate. everyone is in on it, the world bank, bill gates, universities...it's kind of nuts the obsession. so that caught my attention. they is a freaking GLOBAL COUNCIL about cocoa. it's weird to me.
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I saw this mentioned on the post with the insider of the Elite a few days ago. very interesting. I have no clue.
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i would also like to point out that charlie and the chocolate factory (the remake of willy wonka) has INSANE amounts of illuminati symbolism. i am surprised a place like vigilante citizen or SOMEBODY hasn't done an expose on this yet.

just look at the lyrics the "oompa loompas" song, for one.
man, it a motherlode of info.
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you have chocolate in USA now?
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Yes - Hawaii

the cacao photo I posted is from the estate I live on

starting to be a big thing here
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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I think the coffee conspiracy has been much more incipit..and prevalant.. especially around 10 years ago or so..

Look how many single eye symbols there are here.. they don't even try to hide it. they think if they put it in plain sight we won't believe it.

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You might find some info of interest on this old thread of mine regarding the mysterious Mars family OP.
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Thread: The Mysterious Mars Family

Rumor has it that they are considering purchasing 12 acres adjacent to the property I'm on for raising cocao.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
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or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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I hate chocolate these days...it didn't used to melt so easily...I used to gnaw big chunks of it as a kid & it has a funky fake (vanillin?) taste to it now too. I do still make an occasional batch of brownies (from scratch with REAL vanilla)...but no more chocolate bars.
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I hate chocolate these days...it didn't used to melt so easily...I used to gnaw big chunks of it as a kid & it has a funky fake (vanillin?) taste to it now too. I do still make an occasional batch of brownies (from scratch with REAL vanilla)...but no more chocolate bars.
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You need some REAL chocolate my dear!

[link to www.gardenislandchocolate.com]

Unfortunately it doesn't come cheap - about $10/bar
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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I hate chocolate these days...it didn't used to melt so easily...I used to gnaw big chunks of it as a kid & it has a funky fake (vanillin?) taste to it now too. I do still make an occasional batch of brownies (from scratch with REAL vanilla)...but no more chocolate bars.
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It's wax.
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i hope we can discuss the effects of cocoa on the vegus nerve and what this could mean, potentially....marketed to women and children the most. it seems to be, perhaps, an effort to disrupt kundalini energy and empathy
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Interesting they quote the ICCO daily price in SDRs/tonne as well as US$/tonne.
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Interesting they quote the ICCO daily price in SDRs/tonne as well as US$/tonne.
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yes
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if you aren't shallow and can take the time to look into the chemical make up of cocao ( cocaine, hello?) i world opens up to you...mars. they hide so much in,so called, silliness childsplay and silliness.
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Blood Chocolate! My kids are very upset but we didn't have easter chocolates and have quit buying it as I can't afford the expensive fair trade online kind.

[link to www1.american.edu]
There are about 600,000 cocoa farms in Cote d'Ivoire (Child Labor Coalition). Estimates of the number of children forced to work as slaves on these farms are as high as 15,000 (Save the Children Canada). In addition to the very illegality of trafficking and hiring children workers, the implicated cocoa farmers subject the children to inhuman living conditions. Besides overworking them, the farmers do not pay the children nor feed them properly-often times they are allowed to eat corn paste as their only meal. The denigration also includes locking the children up at night to prevent escape. Although it is only one of many occurrences of bonded labor, Aly Diabate's experience on a cocoa farm still illustrates how this torture strips away the dignity of children.






[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

At a run-down police station in Sikasso, a small town in Mali, the files on missing children are endless.

The sad truth is that many have been kidnapped and sold into slavery. The going price is about US$30...


In all, at least 15,000 children are thought to be over in the neighbouring Ivory Coast, producing cocoa which then goes towards making almost half of the world's chocolate.

Many are imprisoned on farms and beaten if they try to escape. Some are under 11 years old.


Blood Chocolate
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Cadbury, Nestles, Hershey, Mars, and also European.

George Soros is tied to it as well.

Its beyond belief that this is the world we're living in, and coffee is pretty much the same. I do try to pay attention to where I buy my coffee. Morning Mayan fair trade coffee is ok priced in the stores.

[link to 2realy.wordpress.com]

"Blood Chocolate Soon in US Stores"

[link to jingogogo.blogspot.com]


"US- and France-backed Alassane Ouattara is determined to impose new ownership of cocoa and coffee plantations. Current farmers were all killed, including children and women in their villages that were all burned down, in their cocoa and coffee plantations and in the bushes. The survivors, most of whom found refuge in neighboring Liberia and in places like the Duekoue Catholic church, are not only afraid of being killed by pro-Ouattara rebels and terrorists if they return, they have been replaced by Malinke and foreign national occupants on their lands and properties."



[link to currenteventsreports.com]

"The dark side of chocolate and child trafficking. Today, what do these chocolate companies like Nestle, Mars, Hershey, Cadbury and others who produce their chocolate products say about child slavery and trafficking in the international chocolate industry?

Is there Child Slavery in these chocolate bars that so many human beings love to eat today? Say it isn’t so. When a person eats chocolate or drinks hot chocolate on a cold winter day or sends chocolate gifts to someone they love, do they know that the chocolate that they love to eat and give to others with love and kindness in their heart is made using child slaves; do they know these innocent children were kidnapped from their families and sold into slavery. ...


July 2005, International Labor Rights Fund filed suit against Nestle in Federal District Court on behalf of a class of children who were trafficked from Mali into the Ivory Coast and forced to work twelve to fourteen hours a day with no pay, little food and sleep, and frequent beatings. What was Nestle’s response to court questioning? “We are only buyers of a product.”

....


Buying cocoa from farms that employ such abusive child labor practices enables Hershey to keep its costs down and its profits up. In early 2010, the company reported a 54 percent jump in profits because of what it called “improved supply-chain efficiencies.” Such “efficiencies” allow Hershey’s CEO, David J. West, to make $8 million a year while unpaid children are forced to labor under cruel conditions on the farms growing the company’s cocoa. A 54 percent jump in Hershey’s profits because of improved supply-chain efficiencies equals $8 million a year for a CEO. A company that uses children as slaves to produce their products and only gets a 54% increase in production. A question, is that a good profit return on children slavery?"

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I found this old thread when I searched online to find out if anyone has noticed any symbolism in that film. I just watched it today with my kids as my teenage daughter asked to watch it and with the ideas of illuminati symbolism quite fresh in my head of late, I was stunned at what I was seeing!!! And sure enough I'm not the first.

I'm thinking particularly with reference to Olympics and I see this film was released the year London got the bid, 2005. Two weeks later, in fact. What stood out without having seen the entire film (I had to step out a lot so missed a fair amount) was the 'gold' and winning, possibly the 5 winners connecting to the five Olympic rings. AND the scene when they played Chariots of fire which was played at the olympic opening ceremony. There were def symbols of saturn in the film, too. A biggee.

I'm really fascinated by what the originator of this thread said about the Mayans and cocoa!!!
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--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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But how are school kids gonna make money for their field trips and stuff??? The Girl scouts have already cornered the cookie market....
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But how are school kids gonna make money for their field trips and stuff??? The Girl scouts have already cornered the cookie market....
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...yeah, quite! Well I don't think they need to worry, chocolate is big and that isn't going to change overnight, if ever...(she says while stopping herself going to the cupboard for-)
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Milton Hershey was good friends with JP Morgan. Morgan told him to cancel his trip on the TITANIC.he cancelled the ticket a day before....hmmmmmm
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Hmm, interesting. I guess no more (blood) chocolate. It's so addicting. Well, at least the choco with sugar all up in it. I have some raw cacao beans towards which I cannot say the same.
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All of the people I know who hate chocolate have little empathy.
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i op'ed a thread with the same title here a couple of years back and it was deleted.

i explained that chocolate is one of the richest food sources of bromine (theobromine) which depletes iodine out of the body (bromine displacement).

iodine is important for optimal health and immune function.

cancers typically only develop in an iodine deficiency state.

chocolate is a seriously heavily promoted commodity akin to tobacco in its heyday.

i love chocolate but have learned to recognise that i feel tons better when i avoid the stuff.
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i am throwing out a few comments i made in other threads because these comments were a fractal on what was being talked about and i think this deserves it's own thread because it's just so weird.

here are my comments:

i have never been into chocolate ever and the last few weeks i have been really into it. it's odd.
so i can't even remember how i got on the track of chocolate yesterday but it is seriously coveted like oil or gold. the elite are obsessed with continuing to make it and having us eat it. the investors in chocolate or the same as the world bank, etc. whenever i would do searches on things i was interested in, it always lead to something about chocolate inevitably. and then MM's had a new meaning. and Mars.
see how into this they are?
[link to www.icco.org]

also, the mayans, supposedly, never gave chocolate to women or children. it was only for men. now they market it almost exclusively towards women and children.

i found out it has a chemical in it called theobromine (i think that is what it is called? (weirdly, also called xantheos...but you can't find any info on that)

this chemical acts on the vestal nerve to depolarize it.
i guess there are 2 parts of the nerve and maybe to depolarize it means to numb it. that is what it was seeming to point to.
it only caught my eye because on oprah the other day (i know this is really linking a bunch of odd things together) and the director tom shadyac was on and he said to oprah that she was basically a "drug pusher" for the this nerve.
you can find the quote by googling. and he even aid that they used oprah's shows to study it more uin depth. it's the nerve which connects us to our throat and heart. it has to do with empathy and the fight or flight response.

so, just doing free association here by intuition, it would seem that chocolate ENHANCES us to keep our heart in the shape of a closed fleur dis lys, energetically. and that it reduces kundalini energy. which may be why they are so hung ho on making sure we all keep eating chocolate and even more of it even tho it is not even a sutainable resource or has any nutritional value really.

the other thing that has this chemical is tea.
which is interesting and related but i don't want to go off on too many tangents.

and btw, am i the only one who sees all the massive symbology and undercurrent of the remake of willy wonka, charlie and the chocolate factory?
so intense.

and i know this sounds crazy, but that is why i am on GLP (ha :) but i think this ties in with child sacrifice or something to do with purity.

or maybe chocolate just makes us taste better to the E.T.s

just throwing out a bunch of stuff and see what sticks....


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please go to the iccco.org website and then FOLLOW the trail. it's insane. i wish i had someone else to talk about this because, as frolicky as this sounds, i think that is where "they" hide the best. in children's nursery rhymes. in candy. in plain site. it's devious.


i have so much to say about this i will add later, when i have time.
but there is something devious going on with chocolate and children's nursery rhymes. i think this is the beginning of the brainwashing a la disney.

i don't think chocolate is in itself, evil. it has good and bad properties as do all plants. but i think we need to be aware of the ENORMOUS amount of energy that is going into the marketing of chococlate.

and even how this spills into pedophelia.

*twilight theme song*


help me out guys. if there is anyone who can put these puzzle pieces together i know it's you.
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