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Geolocation by Firefox and Thunderbird - Be Prudent!!

 
Rose Croix
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> The scary bit: not only IP but nearby wifi points are sent to Google. It is > enabled by default.
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Thanks for the post, Ray. It seems that Iceweasel (Debian branding of Firefox) does not have this "feature," probably because it's based on Firefox 3.0.X. However I recently upgraded a Vista box to Firefox 4.0,
and it did indeed have this setting enabled by default. Ditto for Thunderbird versions.

Yes, surreptitiously reporting nearby wifi points is scary. I guess it shows that when a company adopts "Don't be evil" as its motto, it means that it hopes to be evil without being suspected.

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Last Edited by Rose Croix on 05/08/2011 06:27 AM
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> I guess it > shows that when a company adopts "Don't be evil" as its motto, it means > that it hopes to be evil without being suspected.

It's funny in their privacy policy, google/firefox say something to the effect: "We will not use this information to spy on you".

Whatever they say they ALL-WAYS mean the opposite.
We will protect you = we will kill and poison you!
We will educate you = we will dumb you down!
We will fight for your rights = we will take away your rights!
And on and on and on and....


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Easy to turn off:
In the url bar type in- about:config
You should get a warning window.
click on I promise to be careful
Scroll down to- geoenabled- and double click it.
It will not open up but show up as false.
Its disabled.
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Re: Geolocation by Firefox and Thunderbird - Be Prudent!!
Easy to turn off:
In the url bar type in- about:config
You should get a warning window.
click on I promise to be careful
Scroll down to- geoenabled- and double click it.
It will not open up but show up as false.
Its disabled.
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Thanks for the input!!
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Not quite as alarming as your story, but from a better source.

How does it work?

When you visit a location-aware website, Firefox will ask you if you want to share your location.

If you consent, Firefox gathers information about nearby wireless access points and your computer’s IP address. Then Firefox sends this information to the default geolocation service provider, Google Location Services, to get an estimate of your location. That location estimate is then shared with the requesting website.

If you say that you do not consent, Firefox will not do anything.

[link to www.mozilla.com]
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Re: Geolocation by Firefox and Thunderbird - Be Prudent!!
Easy to turn off:
In the url bar type in- about:config
You should get a warning window.
click on I promise to be careful
Scroll down to- geoenabled- and double click it.
It will not open up but show up as false.
Its disabled.
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thanks for that, very useful. hf
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Why, its a non story. Fear-mongering even.

A box pops up asking if you want to give location data to the site, say no if you don't want to.
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Re: Geolocation by Firefox and Thunderbird - Be Prudent!!
Easy to turn off:
In the url bar type in- about:config
You should get a warning window.
click on I promise to be careful
Scroll down to- geoenabled- and double click it.
It will not open up but show up as false.
Its disabled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342348


thanks for that, very useful. hf
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Yes, wasn't aware of that, and I don't consider myself a noob either

thanks





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