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New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?

 
George B (OP)
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California the last few days has been completely sprayed like crazy.

Now there is very low visibility (I live in Central California, so usually we have crystal clear skies) but now the horizon looks like there is some heavy industry near by-

Visibility is maybe 10 miles, when before it was about 60 at least.. This is almost every day now.
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So what do you think is going on?
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Chemtrails are very real.

Don't listen to George B and noble. they may be the same person..
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How dare you insult me...I ain't no stupid chemtard!

George is a fucking idiot!

Just like you....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064


I think George and you very much both think that chemtrails are something else, that they are normal..

George thinks that chemtrails are from normal increased air traffic, so I would agree that you and George are on the same broken fence.
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No, Geoerge believes there are "chemtrails".

I believe there is no evidence that they exist, and that the trails we all see in the sky are nothing more than persistent contrails.

George thinks that more CONTRAILS are because there is increased traffic. I believe they are ALL contrails.

I DO believe (actually, KNOW) that the trails you idiots call "chemtrails" in all the videos are nothing more than contrails...and that yes, they are in fact, normal.
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Thanks for your response George. My thoughts are if they are "possibly" increasing aircraft induced cirrus cloud banks intentionally.......that they would make dedicated flights to produce these trails in the sky. I say this because of what I observe. I've lived in my area for more than 35 years and the traffic in the sky has hugely changed in the past few years and more each day. I have both military and commercial flight paths going over my home, but those are not the planes leaving the trails. Also, I am close enough to the military base and airport that the planes are still descending or ascending. Easy to see.

There is, from what I've been seeing, "a method to their madness". The sky looks littered and trashed most days. Never used to. A lot less sun..it' mostly behind a bank of foggy clouds now. As they say......"Just Sayin'".
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1) Ascending and descending aircraft don't usually leave trails, the conditions are simply not available for formation . . . they are not high enough except for condensation trails caused by pressure changes from control surfaces (control surface vortices).

2) Most trails, either persistent contrails or a possible Chemtrail, need to be at 30,000 feet or above where there are cold enough temperatures (-40c or lower), high enough Relative Humidity, and low enough barametric pressure to form the water and ice around a nuclei of dust, ice crystal, water droplet, aerosol particulate, etc to become visible . . .

3) Simple, if there are chemtrails they follow the same scientific principles of visibility that contrails will . . .
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No George, chemtrail spraying doesn't work like that. It's not the same thing as contrail vapors.
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prove it
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Chemtrails are very real.

Don't listen to George B and noble. they may be the same person..
 Quoting: chemtrails are real. 33667546


How dare you insult me...I ain't no stupid chemtard!

George is a fucking idiot!

Just like you....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064


I think George and you very much both think that chemtrails are something else, that they are normal..

George thinks that chemtrails are from normal increased air traffic, so I would agree that you and George are on the same broken fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33709114


No, Geoerge believes there are "chemtrails".

I believe there is no evidence that they exist, and that the trails we all see in the sky are nothing more than persistent contrails.

George thinks that more CONTRAILS are because there is increased traffic. I believe they are ALL contrails.

I DO believe (actually, KNOW) that the trails you idiots call "chemtrails" in all the videos are nothing more than contrails...and that yes, they are in fact, normal.
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More accurately George (me) believes that after several years of my own independent study, the only logical large scale atmospheric aerosol injection program possible that could have a chance to operate without detection is a stratospheric injection of Sulfur Dioxide or other Sulfur compounds . . . that means several heavy lift aircraft dedicated to multiple flights each day reaching 35,000 to 45,000 feet in the Northern Latitudes . . . Note: They would likely not be visible unless they (sulfur aerosols) were injected through the engines . . . then they would follow the same physics as any particulates released in a jet exhaust as far as visible persistence . . . visibility has very little to do with the climatic effect of aerosols . . .

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How dare you insult me...I ain't no stupid chemtard!

George is a fucking idiot!

Just like you....
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I think George and you very much both think that chemtrails are something else, that they are normal..

George thinks that chemtrails are from normal increased air traffic, so I would agree that you and George are on the same broken fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33709114


No, Geoerge believes there are "chemtrails".

I believe there is no evidence that they exist, and that the trails we all see in the sky are nothing more than persistent contrails.

George thinks that more CONTRAILS are because there is increased traffic. I believe they are ALL contrails.

I DO believe (actually, KNOW) that the trails you idiots call "chemtrails" in all the videos are nothing more than contrails...and that yes, they are in fact, normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


More accurately George (me) believes that after several years of my own independent study, the only logical large scale atmospheric aerosol injection program possible that could have a chance to operate without detection is a stratospheric injection of Sulfur Dioxide or other Sulfur compounds . . . that means several heavy lift aircraft dedicated to multiple flights each day reaching 35,000 to 45,000 feet in the Northern Latitudes . . . Note: They would likely not be visible unless they were injected through the engines . . . then they would follow the same physics as any particulates released in a jet exhaust as far as visible persistence . . . visibility has very little to do with the climatic effect of aerosols . . .
 Quoting: George B


You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
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How dare you insult me...I ain't no stupid chemtard!

George is a fucking idiot!

Just like you....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30170064


I think George and you very much both think that chemtrails are something else, that they are normal..

George thinks that chemtrails are from normal increased air traffic, so I would agree that you and George are on the same broken fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33709114


No, Geoerge believes there are "chemtrails".

I believe there is no evidence that they exist, and that the trails we all see in the sky are nothing more than persistent contrails.

George thinks that more CONTRAILS are because there is increased traffic. I believe they are ALL contrails.

I DO believe (actually, KNOW) that the trails you idiots call "chemtrails" in all the videos are nothing more than contrails...and that yes, they are in fact, normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


More accurately George (me) believes that after several years of my own independent study, the only logical large scale atmospheric aerosol injection program possible that could have a chance to operate without detection is a stratospheric injection of Sulfur Dioxide or other Sulfur compounds . . . that means several heavy lift aircraft dedicated to multiple flights each day reaching 35,000 to 45,000 feet in the Northern Latitudes . . . Note: They would likely not be visible unless they (sulfur aerosols) were injected through the engines . . . then they would follow the same physics as any particulates released in a jet exhaust as far as visible persistence . . . visibility has very little to do with the climatic effect of aerosols . . .
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You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


I am in no way criticizing you or telling you, you are nuts . . .I am just honestly telling you what I think . . . I don't have your experiences or observations or experience base as you don't have mine . . . so there is no reason to get upset . . . I do not restrict nor criticize anyone's honest opinions regarding chemtrails . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

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You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


I am in no way criticizing you or telling you, you are nuts . . .I am just honestly telling you what I think . . . I don't have your experiences or observations or experience base as you don't have mine . . . so there is no reason to get upset . . . I do not restrict nor criticize anyone's honest opinions regarding chemtrails . . .
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I think that you have been misleading people.. And I think that you know it.
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You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


I am in no way criticizing you or telling you, you are nuts . . .I am just honestly telling you what I think . . . I don't have your experiences or observations or experience base as you don't have mine . . . so there is no reason to get upset . . . I do not restrict nor criticize anyone's honest opinions regarding chemtrails . . .
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I think that you have been misleading people.. And I think that you know it.
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How is that? I have always kept an open mind . . . I have honestly presented evidence and my opinions over the last several years . . . If you think I have not . . . where have I been dishonest in your opinion ????
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


I am in no way criticizing you or telling you, you are nuts . . .I am just honestly telling you what I think . . . I don't have your experiences or observations or experience base as you don't have mine . . . so there is no reason to get upset . . . I do not restrict nor criticize anyone's honest opinions regarding chemtrails . . .
 Quoting: George B


I think that you have been misleading people.. And I think that you know it.
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It's the chemtards who are misleading people...

Making ignorant claims and assumptions about things you OBVIOUSLY don't understand makes YOU the bad guy here.
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I think George and you very much both think that chemtrails are something else, that they are normal..

George thinks that chemtrails are from normal increased air traffic, so I would agree that you and George are on the same broken fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33709114


No, Geoerge believes there are "chemtrails".

I believe there is no evidence that they exist, and that the trails we all see in the sky are nothing more than persistent contrails.

George thinks that more CONTRAILS are because there is increased traffic. I believe they are ALL contrails.

I DO believe (actually, KNOW) that the trails you idiots call "chemtrails" in all the videos are nothing more than contrails...and that yes, they are in fact, normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


More accurately George (me) believes that after several years of my own independent study, the only logical large scale atmospheric aerosol injection program possible that could have a chance to operate without detection is a stratospheric injection of Sulfur Dioxide or other Sulfur compounds . . . that means several heavy lift aircraft dedicated to multiple flights each day reaching 35,000 to 45,000 feet in the Northern Latitudes . . . Note: They would likely not be visible unless they were injected through the engines . . . then they would follow the same physics as any particulates released in a jet exhaust as far as visible persistence . . . visibility has very little to do with the climatic effect of aerosols . . .
 Quoting: George B


You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


Lets be honest...you feel you don't "have to" prove anything...only because you are UNABLE to prove the trails are anything more than contrails. Which is my ENTIRE position in this matter.

A complete lack of proof...yet thousands of statements of FACT from you chemtards.

Don't blame ME because you and your fellow chemtards are dishonest.
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No, Geoerge believes there are "chemtrails".

I believe there is no evidence that they exist, and that the trails we all see in the sky are nothing more than persistent contrails.

George thinks that more CONTRAILS are because there is increased traffic. I believe they are ALL contrails.

I DO believe (actually, KNOW) that the trails you idiots call "chemtrails" in all the videos are nothing more than contrails...and that yes, they are in fact, normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


More accurately George (me) believes that after several years of my own independent study, the only logical large scale atmospheric aerosol injection program possible that could have a chance to operate without detection is a stratospheric injection of Sulfur Dioxide or other Sulfur compounds . . . that means several heavy lift aircraft dedicated to multiple flights each day reaching 35,000 to 45,000 feet in the Northern Latitudes . . . Note: They would likely not be visible unless they were injected through the engines . . . then they would follow the same physics as any particulates released in a jet exhaust as far as visible persistence . . . visibility has very little to do with the climatic effect of aerosols . . .
 Quoting: George B


You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


Lets be honest...you feel you don't "have to" prove anything...only because you are UNABLE to prove the trails are anything more than contrails. Which is my ENTIRE position in this matter.

A complete lack of proof...yet thousands of statements of FACT from you chemtards.

Don't blame ME because you and your fellow chemtards are dishonest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Noble, if you are going to comment identify yourself properly or I will ban you . . . grumpy2
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More accurately George (me) believes that after several years of my own independent study, the only logical large scale atmospheric aerosol injection program possible that could have a chance to operate without detection is a stratospheric injection of Sulfur Dioxide or other Sulfur compounds . . . that means several heavy lift aircraft dedicated to multiple flights each day reaching 35,000 to 45,000 feet in the Northern Latitudes . . . Note: They would likely not be visible unless they were injected through the engines . . . then they would follow the same physics as any particulates released in a jet exhaust as far as visible persistence . . . visibility has very little to do with the climatic effect of aerosols . . .
 Quoting: George B


You are no longer credible to me, you have been on the other side of the fence playing a game all along.

I don't have to prove anything to anyone including you or noble.

Chemtrails, or call them what you want are out there being sprayed day and night. Where I live there is not much if any commercial air traffic at night, yet I witness chemtrails being sprayed at, sometimes lots of them.

Call them chemtrail planes/ufo's/drones, whatever, but something is going on and people like you are trying to tell us who know this other wise.

This is my independent study!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33732293


Lets be honest...you feel you don't "have to" prove anything...only because you are UNABLE to prove the trails are anything more than contrails. Which is my ENTIRE position in this matter.

A complete lack of proof...yet thousands of statements of FACT from you chemtards.

Don't blame ME because you and your fellow chemtards are dishonest.
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Noble, if you are going to comment identify yourself properly or I will ban you . . . grumpy2
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Go ahead and ban me, douche.

I don't have to identify myself. I'm one of many Anonymous Cowards who are ion this thread who you DON'T ban!

What a stupid reason for banning someone.

Besides, if one can't tell I'm "Noble" by what I have written in this thread, then they are stupid!


Try not to be such an asshole George...If you can.
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Go ahead and ban me, douche.

I don't have to identify myself. I'm one of many Anonymous Cowards who are ion this thread who you DON'T ban!

What a stupid reason for banning someone.

Besides, if one can't tell I'm "Noble" by what I have written in this thread, then they are stupid!


Try not to be such an asshole George...If you can.
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Noble, you are the person throwing personal insults at the OP . . . seems perfect justification to end your terror campaign . . . either comply or get lost . . . this is my Thread not yours . . . grumpy2
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Go ahead and ban me, douche.

I don't have to identify myself. I'm one of many Anonymous Cowards who are ion this thread who you DON'T ban!

What a stupid reason for banning someone.

Besides, if one can't tell I'm "Noble" by what I have written in this thread, then they are stupid!


Try not to be such an asshole George...If you can.
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Noble, you are the person throwing personal insults at the OP . . . seems perfect justification to end your terror campaign . . . either comply or get lost . . . this is my Thread not yours . . . grumpy2
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Do what you feel you have to do.
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they're real, but i don't think they're evil. i think they're artificial clouds/particle distributors designed to protect us from solar radiation which is penetrating more every year due to our weakening magfield.
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George, why don't you do me a favor and tell the people who run this paranoid lie factory that I'm back, and need to be banned. They are too stupid to know how to permanently ban me.
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they're real, but i don't think they're evil. i think they're artificial clouds/particle distributors designed to protect us from solar radiation which is penetrating more every year due to our weakening magfield.
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Evidence?!
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:chems:
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lol......supose that would be me.
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George, why don't you do me a favor and tell the people who run this paranoid lie factory that I'm back, and need to be banned. They are too stupid to know how to permanently ban me.
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It is not my job to police GLP . . . if you tone yourself down a few notches no one would care . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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:chems:
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lol......supose that would be me.
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??
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George, why don't you do me a favor and tell the people who run this paranoid lie factory that I'm back, and need to be banned. They are too stupid to know how to permanently ban me.
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It is not my job to police GLP . . . if you tone yourself down a few notches no one would care . . .
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It was just a suggestion...and a request for a favor.

No one said anything about "policing"...

Try to stop being such a douche George...
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lol......supose that would be me.
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Don't forget "stupid loser".
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they're real, but i don't think they're evil. i think they're artificial clouds/particle distributors designed to protect us from solar radiation which is penetrating more every year due to our weakening magfield.
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Your opinion is as good as anyone else's . . . since that is the state of the situation . . . people find it hard or impossible to convince people that chemtrails don't exist and people who believe they exist cannot present enough acceptable evidence to prove they exist to doubters . . . verycool
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By the way George, isn't it YOU who wanted to "police" me to begin with?! Make up your fucking mind!
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Re: New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
they're real, but i don't think they're evil. i think they're artificial clouds/particle distributors designed to protect us from solar radiation which is penetrating more every year due to our weakening magfield.
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Your opinion is as good as anyone else's . . . since that is the state of the situation . . . people find it hard or impossible to convince people that chemtrails don't exist and people who believe they exist cannot present enough acceptable evidence to prove they exist to doubters . . . verycool
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"doubters"?! Is that how you classify those who believe the trails that chemtards call "chemtrails" are just contrails?!

Yeah, those who accept basic principles of aviation and science are "doubters"...

Good call...

Fucking douche...
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By the way George, isn't it YOU who wanted to "police" me to begin with?! Make up your fucking mind!
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I have . . . you are BANED . . . and Banned . . . and Bane

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Re: New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
they're real, but i don't think they're evil. i think they're artificial clouds/particle distributors designed to protect us from solar radiation which is penetrating more every year due to our weakening magfield.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16648993


Your opinion is as good as anyone else's . . . since that is the state of the situation . . . people find it hard or impossible to convince people that chemtrails don't exist and people who believe they exist cannot present enough acceptable evidence to prove they exist to doubters . . . verycool
 Quoting: George B


"doubters"?! Is that how you classify those who believe the trails that chemtards call "chemtrails" are just contrails?!

Yeah, those who accept basic principles of aviation and science are "doubters"...

Good call...

Fucking douche...
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Yes . . . doubters of the Chemtrail conspiracy . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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Re: New Chemtrail Poll: Do you believe in Chemtrails?
Thanks for your response George. My thoughts are if they are "possibly" increasing aircraft induced cirrus cloud banks intentionally.......that they would make dedicated flights to produce these trails in the sky. I say this because of what I observe. I've lived in my area for more than 35 years and the traffic in the sky has hugely changed in the past few years and more each day. I have both military and commercial flight paths going over my home, but those are not the planes leaving the trails. Also, I am close enough to the military base and airport that the planes are still descending or ascending. Easy to see.

There is, from what I've been seeing, "a method to their madness". The sky looks littered and trashed most days. Never used to. A lot less sun..it' mostly behind a bank of foggy clouds now. As they say......"Just Sayin'".
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1) Ascending and descending aircraft don't usually leave trails, the conditions are simply not available for formation . . . they are not high enough except for condensation trails caused by pressure changes from control surfaces (control surface vortices).

2) Most trails, either persistent contrails or a possible Chemtrail, need to be at 30,000 feet or above where there are cold enough temperatures (-40c or lower), high enough Relative Humidity, and low enough barametric pressure to form the water and ice around a nuclei of dust, ice crystal, water droplet, aerosol particulate, etc to become visible . . .

3) Simple, if there are chemtrails they follow the same scientific principles of visibility that contrails will . . .
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My point about "ascending and descending" aircraft was the lack of trails. I should have made that clear....I suppose.

I understand your 2 and 3.

I have to agree with a couple of the A/C posters and
Mortier. I've followed your thread for quite sometime and your content has changed.

I appreciate your responses and posts, mostly your capacity to discuss the topic rationally.

Your "quote" The only guarantee in life is deception.....everyting else is optional......is appropriate.

Not writing you off. Will continue to follow your thread. Trying to keep an open mind.
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My point about "ascending and descending" aircraft was the lack of trails. I should have made that clear....I suppose.

I understand your 2 and 3.

I have to agree with a couple of the A/C posters and
Mortier. I've followed your thread for quite sometime and your content has changed.

I appreciate your responses and posts, mostly your capacity to discuss the topic rationally.

Your "quote" The only guarantee in life is deception.....everyting else is optional......is appropriate.

Not writing you off. Will continue to follow your thread. Trying to keep an open mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 381452


Thanks for your honest Post . . . in May 2013 this particular Thread will be two years old and I will have been posting about chemtrails since 2009 on other Threads . . . it is not illogical for there to be an evolution of thought and drift of emphasis over such a time period . . . nothing is static . . .

The only thing I have been trying to maintain is presenting what IMO I have honestly discovered and tried to present no matter where it took me . . . I tried hard not to keep preconceived ideas but flowed where the evidence took me . . . so I am sorry if I have upset some of you with what I have presented . . . but it is honest . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

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