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| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten!  User ID: 1219201  United States05/22/2012 05:29 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: They are called contrails not chemtrails (Page 5) no, they are not contrails. They are chemtrails and its called geo-engineering Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16505077 No, I have to agree with the OP. Chemtrail theorists are just whackos, plain and simple. I've been an aviation enthusiast since I was a child, and I've ALWAYS seen contrails, just as now (here in the UK most people call them 'vapour trails'). I'm sick of idiots saying that they "didn't happen until 1986" or some bollocks like that, when I know full well that here in the UK there are vast numbers of old photos and paintings from World War 2 - from the Battle of Britain especially, when the sky was covered with them. Even my grandparents remember seeing them weaving patterns in the sky. I'm also sick of stupid people misidentifying perfectly normal military hardware, like underwing pods on aircraft, as something sinister. The whole notion of 'Chemtrails' was dreamt up by paranoid, loony Americans, who are scared of everything and understand nothing. They are the same people who think that every time a military helicopter flies overhead they are being 'watched'. There are lots of genuine mysteries and conspiracies in the world, and some are indeed sinister, but they have real evidence to back them up. Chemtrails just has ignorance, stupidity and wishful thinking by utter idiots. Go on then, let the idiots start their personal assaults on me  so how do you explain the perfectly laid out grid of trails in the sky. I too remember seeing vapor trails as a child but these are totally different, they are a perfectly laid out grid that spreads to cover the sky, often you will see natural clouds below them. I don't pretend to know what the hell they are but they are not the same thing was saw as children. I have not seen them but once since I moved to the country a couple of years ago, I use to see them often when I lived in the city. Most 707's from the sixty's didn't go above above 28,000-32,000 ft. Now 35,000 to 41,000 is the norm, depending on distance point A to B and the fuel saving based on wind and, believe it or not, ride characteristics. There's a lot more to it based on your specific clearance and your manipulation of ATC for for routing for said same A to B. Question: When you flew as a commercial pilot were you ever aware of your contrails status . . . ? Unless, you saw a shadow on a cloud layer below you . . . if you were a combat pilot I suppose you were very aware . . .  Crossing patterns, another airliner, above or below at a 30,45,90 180 degrees,or anything in between, has a clearly define contrail if the the conditions are correct. During daylight hours, if you're put in a holding pattern for whatever delay, you will see your own contrail after making your initial turn, if conditions (density, temp., moisture ) are present. I've seen it hundreds of times. Good information . . . Last Edited by George B on 05/22/2012 05:45 PM Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| SnakeAirlines User ID: 651963 United States05/22/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see Gay-org and his minions just can't resist negging me when I laugh at them...   Last Edited by SnakeAirlines on 05/22/2012 09:23 PM "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/22/2012 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see Gay-org and his minions just can't resist negging me when I laugh at them... Quoting: SnakeAirlines   Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1611462 United States05/23/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11621668 No, the Chicken Little "thing" fits you chemtards like a glove... What do you mean "settled down" I'm perfectly calm. It's you chemtards who are irrational and whiny. Lol true. Always proving my point as usual. Still lmao. You chemtards prove one point with every post... That you are paranoid idiots. Looking in the mirror, again? Do you vote using all of your i.d. numbers? That's cheating........  |
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| KlLLUMINATI User ID: 11546392 United States05/23/2012 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | contrail simulator app..... [link to profhorn.aos.wisc.edu] She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you? -Norman Bates I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week.... -Tupac Shakur Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care? -Tupac Shakur I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated. -Tupac Shakur I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color. -Malcolm X A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything. -Malcolm X When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth. -Dawn of the Dead What an excellent day for an exorcism. -The Exorcist |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States05/23/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You chemtards prove one point with every post... That you are paranoid idiots. Looking in the mirror, again? Do you vote using all of your i.d. numbers? That's cheating........ Yes, ALL two of them...home and work.. |
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| The Hammer User ID: 16424824 United States05/23/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George..Just giving you a heads up..There have been no Chemtrails,none!,for the last 2 months in my area!!..I dont know whats going on,but the skies are clear and blue..I finally seen my main contact last week,he didn't know why the Chemtrailing has stopped,but gave me warning that there has been several near misses the past few weeks by fair sized asteroids,I read about these but the MSM mentioned very little about them..He told me once again a big one is headed this way,but it is hush hush,also the situation in the Middle East has been delayed,but a major event will definitely occur there,no certain day,but it will occur this year..This event will be the precursor to rock that will change this world..Hope all is well with you.. Quoting: The Hammer Thanks for the update Hammer. . .I am well. . . So your implication is . . . Trails in the sky are now more for concealment than anything else? Using Or simply allowing existing commercial long haul aircraft to do their work when conditions are conducive for persistent trails and supplementing when conditions are not optimal . . . Or have they just given up in your opinion? . . . I dont know the answer George..There have been no Chemtrails!!..None!!..2 months!!..Need to get more input from other people in different areas to see whats going on elsewhere..Blue skies George,blue skies!!..Whatever the answer is,its probably not good..Anything the Governments do in secret is never good..Blue skies as I write..I will keep you posted..Peace to you my brother..  |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/23/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George..Just giving you a heads up..There have been no Chemtrails,none!,for the last 2 months in my area!!..I dont know whats going on,but the skies are clear and blue..I finally seen my main contact last week,he didn't know why the Chemtrailing has stopped,but gave me warning that there has been several near misses the past few weeks by fair sized asteroids,I read about these but the MSM mentioned very little about them..He told me once again a big one is headed this way,but it is hush hush,also the situation in the Middle East has been delayed,but a major event will definitely occur there,no certain day,but it will occur this year..This event will be the precursor to rock that will change this world..Hope all is well with you.. Quoting: The Hammer Thanks for the update Hammer. . .I am well. . . So your implication is . . . Trails in the sky are now more for concealment than anything else? Using Or simply allowing existing commercial long haul aircraft to do their work when conditions are conducive for persistent trails and supplementing when conditions are not optimal . . . Or have they just given up in your opinion? . . . I dont know the answer George..There have been no Chemtrails!!..None!!..2 months!!..Need to get more input from other people in different areas to see whats going on elsewhere..Blue skies George,blue skies!!..Whatever the answer is,its probably not good..Anything the Governments do in secret is never good..Blue skies as I write..I will keep you posted..Peace to you my brother.. Keep them flying Hammer. . . .  Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/23/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George, you should join AMWAY. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16560960 WIth your inability to give it the fuck up, you'd seriously end up a millionaire. It's part of my charm. . . .  Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/23/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You chemtards prove one point with every post... That you are paranoid idiots. Looking in the mirror, again? Do you vote using all of your i.d. numbers? That's cheating........ Yes, ALL two of them...home and work.. Hmmmmm . . . . Noble, it doesn't seem to have changed the percentages. . . .  Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| The Hammer User ID: 16424824 United States05/23/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What fuckwit resurrected this dead piece of shit thre...Oh...I see... Quoting: SnakeAirlines I should have guessed...  Wheres the Chemtrails Snakeman??..You work for the Government,tell us where they have disappeared too??..Is it mission accomplished??..You are a commie traitor to this Country, you should be hanged by your balls,if you have any.. |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/23/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good paper. . . . I would recommend everyone take a look. . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15827957 United States05/23/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just have a hard time believing that planes can lay down PERSISTANT contrails in conditions that do not support them. As a kid. I lived inland in central California A place known for it's endless cloudless days. Every plane in the sky had contrails that disappeared after 5-10 seconds. Never saw a persistent contrail in my life until the year 2000. Slowly but surely since then there has been an increase every year of persistent contrails. Everybody that lived in the central valley of california before the year 2000 knows that there were NO clouds in the sky between the months march-september. The conditions just aren't there for cloud creation during those months. Even when we were in the middle of recession and plane traffic was down 35% there were increases in persistent contrails. Now there is clouds every day throughout the summer. And they are formed from contrails. There hasn't been your typical cloudless days in central california in at least 10 years. There is always some form of cloud in the sky. So that tells me they aren't persistent contrails at all but chemtrails. |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/23/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to think I have a open mind on most things but I just dont think I believe in chemtrails even though I will admit I could be wrong. Would anyone who believes in chemtrails take the chemtrail challenge because I would love to get to the bottom of this. I would think testing for chemtrails couldn't be the hardest thing to do. Quoting: Jerry Sandusky 12851951 Testing is a waste of time for several reasons if you are referring to in situ testing. . . . 1) The atmosphere is an open system . . . there are almost an infinite number of sources of contamination 2) No one knows what the concentration of the substances in the aerosols are or what they are. . . 3) If sulfur compounds are used for geoengineering the allowable concentrations are very high . . . up to 3,000 ppm. . . .how does one distinguish between high sulfur fuel and spiked fuel . . . 4) Low probability of finding a chemtrail in all the persistent contrails. . . .a needle in an ocean 5) The capabilities of the people doing the aerosol injections would preclude your success. . . .they would know where and when you would sample and just cease operation. . . These are just the ones off the top of my head. . ..  Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States05/23/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just have a hard time believing that planes can lay down PERSISTANT contrails in conditions that do not support them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15827957 As a kid. I lived inland in central California A place known for it's endless cloudless days. Every plane in the sky had contrails that disappeared after 5-10 seconds. Never saw a persistent contrail in my life until the year 2000. Slowly but surely since then there has been an increase every year of persistent contrails. Everybody that lived in the central valley of california before the year 2000 knows that there were NO clouds in the sky between the months march-september. The conditions just aren't there for cloud creation during those months. Even when we were in the middle of recession and plane traffic was down 35% there were increases in persistent contrails. Now there is clouds every day throughout the summer. And they are formed from contrails. There hasn't been your typical cloudless days in central california in at least 10 years. There is always some form of cloud in the sky. So that tells me they aren't persistent contrails at all but chemtrails. please provide evidence that a single trail has been placed where the air shouldn't support them. And please explain your knowledge of the evolution of jet engine technology over the last 30 years. And then tell me why it's important. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States05/23/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What fuckwit resurrected this dead piece of shit thre...Oh...I see... Quoting: SnakeAirlines I should have guessed... Wheres the Chemtrails Snakeman??..You work for the Government,tell us where they have disappeared too??..Is it mission accomplished??..You are a commie traitor to this Country, you should be hanged by your balls,if you have any.. You have no evidence that you have ever seen a "chemtrail" which wasn't actually a contrail...sorry! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1611462 United States05/23/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George..Just giving you a heads up..There have been no Chemtrails,none!,for the last 2 months in my area!!..I dont know whats going on,but the skies are clear and blue..I finally seen my main contact last week,he didn't know why the Chemtrailing has stopped,but gave me warning that there has been several near misses the past few weeks by fair sized asteroids,I read about these but the MSM mentioned very little about them..He told me once again a big one is headed this way,but it is hush hush,also the situation in the Middle East has been delayed,but a major event will definitely occur there,no certain day,but it will occur this year..This event will be the precursor to rock that will change this world..Hope all is well with you.. Quoting: The Hammer Thanks for the update Hammer. . .I am well. . . So your implication is . . . Trails in the sky are now more for concealment than anything else? Using Or simply allowing existing commercial long haul aircraft to do their work when conditions are conducive for persistent trails and supplementing when conditions are not optimal . . . Or have they just given up in your opinion? . . . I dont know the answer George..There have been no Chemtrails!!..None!!..2 months!!..Need to get more input from other people in different areas to see whats going on elsewhere..Blue skies George,blue skies!!..Whatever the answer is,its probably not good..Anything the Governments do in secret is never good..Blue skies as I write..I will keep you posted..Peace to you my brother.. Hammer, we've had heavy chem trailing here in the Mid-Atlantic (Washington DC/Annapolis/Balimore area for the last 2 weeks. Was on the Eastern Shore of Virginia last week and same there near Wallops Island, Norfolk/Portsmouth. A group of us sat on a bench in my yard (Virginia) for a morning watching 7 planes flying in a wide expanse of sky. One plane would fly slowly behind a laid trail and seemed to drop something from the plane into the forming cloud. Later the planes would move to a different area and do the same thing. It also seemed the would fly SE for a period of time and then return as if refueled. The weather was supposed to be warm and sunny in the mid 70's. It turned chilly, cloudy and 60's. You have to appreciate that we are in the middle of a huge farm with forest around the perimeter and wide open skies that used to love looking at. It was so clouded over at night with that thin veil type of cloud that the stars seemed magnified shining through. That was interesting. Hope this helps. |
| SnakeAirlines User ID: 651963 United States05/23/2012 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What fuckwit resurrected this dead piece of shit thre...Oh...I see... Quoting: SnakeAirlines I should have guessed... Wheres the Chemtrails Snakeman??..You work for the Government,tell us where they have disappeared too??..Is it mission accomplished??..You are a commie traitor to this Country, you should be hanged by your balls,if you have any.. Off your meds again I see... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
| Jerry Sandusky User ID: 12851951 United States05/23/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to think I have a open mind on most things but I just dont think I believe in chemtrails even though I will admit I could be wrong. Would anyone who believes in chemtrails take the chemtrail challenge because I would love to get to the bottom of this. I would think testing for chemtrails couldn't be the hardest thing to do. Quoting: Jerry Sandusky 12851951 Testing is a waste of time for several reasons if you are referring to in situ testing. . . . 1) The atmosphere is an open system . . . there are almost an infinite number of sources of contamination 2) No one knows what the concentration of the substances in the aerosols are or what they are. . . 3) If sulfur compounds are used for geoengineering the allowable concentrations are very high . . . up to 3,000 ppm. . . .how does one distinguish between high sulfur fuel and spiked fuel . . . 4) Low probability of finding a chemtrail in all the persistent contrails. . . .a needle in an ocean 5) The capabilities of the people doing the aerosol injections would preclude your success. . . .they would know where and when you would sample and just cease operation. . . These are just the ones off the top of my head. . .. I didn't think about it like that and that makes sense. I was just thining there has to be a way to prove it or disprove it once in for all. |
| George B (OP) Extinct But Not Forgotten! User ID: 1219201 United States05/23/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to think I have a open mind on most things but I just dont think I believe in chemtrails even though I will admit I could be wrong. Would anyone who believes in chemtrails take the chemtrail challenge because I would love to get to the bottom of this. I would think testing for chemtrails couldn't be the hardest thing to do. Quoting: Jerry Sandusky 12851951 Testing is a waste of time for several reasons if you are referring to in situ testing. . . . 1) The atmosphere is an open system . . . there are almost an infinite number of sources of contamination 2) No one knows what the concentration of the substances in the aerosols are or what they are. . . 3) If sulfur compounds are used for geoengineering the allowable concentrations are very high . . . up to 3,000 ppm. . . .how does one distinguish between high sulfur fuel and spiked fuel . . . 4) Low probability of finding a chemtrail in all the persistent contrails. . . .a needle in an ocean 5) The capabilities of the people doing the aerosol injections would preclude your success. . . .they would know where and when you would sample and just cease operation. . . These are just the ones off the top of my head. . .. I didn't think about it like that and that makes sense. I was just thining there has to be a way to prove it or disprove it once in for all. I have thought about that a lot and don't think unless the people or organizations involved announce their activities we will never know for sure . . . there is not enough hard scientifically verifiable evidence to prove chemtrails exist and there is not enough to prove they don't exist as well . . . which would be almost impossible anyway . . . It really comes down to do you trust the people running the world not to do something they want to do and keep it secret . . . and is there enough circumstantial evidence to support a belief in an intentional aerosol injection program . . . Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter! "Email: [email protected]" All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642) The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States05/23/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like to think I have a open mind on most things but I just dont think I believe in chemtrails even though I will admit I could be wrong. Would anyone who believes in chemtrails take the chemtrail challenge because I would love to get to the bottom of this. I would think testing for chemtrails couldn't be the hardest thing to do. Quoting: Jerry Sandusky 12851951 Testing is a waste of time for several reasons if you are referring to in situ testing. . . . 1) The atmosphere is an open system . . . there are almost an infinite number of sources of contamination 2) No one knows what the concentration of the substances in the aerosols are or what they are. . . 3) If sulfur compounds are used for geoengineering the allowable concentrations are very high . . . up to 3,000 ppm. . . .how does one distinguish between high sulfur fuel and spiked fuel . . . 4) Low probability of finding a chemtrail in all the persistent contrails. . . .a needle in an ocean 5) The capabilities of the people doing the aerosol injections would preclude your success. . . .they would know where and when you would sample and just cease operation. . . These are just the ones off the top of my head. . .. I didn't think about it like that and that makes sense. I was just thining there has to be a way to prove it or disprove it once in for all. No matter what... If you (try to) disprove the trails...you are working for "them" and are trying to deceive the chemtards...Oops! "advocates"...sorry! Or, if you are on the other side, you are cherry picking bullshit which has anything to do with "airplanes, weather...geoengineering...and spraying"...and assuming it has something to do with the trails we all see in the sky, and I have seen since I was a small boy in the 70's. It's an ENDLESS debate...No side will EVER give in. I know I can't unlearn what I know about aviation and atmospheric science...and the "advocates" won't EVER learn anything about the subject...and will continue to accept bullshit from OTHER paranoid conspiracy nuts as fact...while NEVER taking the time to actually seek out those who understand these subjects...and ask them some questions. |
| SnakeAirlines User ID: 651963 United States05/23/2012 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no 'debate'... There's reality, and then there's the chemtard fantasy world... Sorry, but I won't give in to their delusions...  "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States05/23/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an ENDLESS debate...No side will EVER give in. Quoting: SnakeAirlines There's no 'debate'... There's reality, and then there's the chemtard fantasy world... Sorry, but I won't give in to their delusions... The debate is that reality VS the chemtard fantasy. It's a SILLY debate...but, it's still a "debate" of sorts. It's also hilarious! A complete lack of evidence doesn't sway them one little bit...how could anyone not find it amusing?! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1611462 United States05/24/2012 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an ENDLESS debate...No side will EVER give in. Quoting: SnakeAirlines There's no 'debate'... There's reality, and then there's the chemtard fantasy world... Sorry, but I won't give in to their delusions... The debate is that reality VS the chemtard fantasy. It's a SILLY debate...but, it's still a "debate" of sorts. It's also hilarious! A complete lack of evidence doesn't sway them one little bit...how could anyone not find it amusing?! Silly "contard" you're on the clock pretty much 24/7 and you're the hilarious one. So delusional with your responses. |
