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~~~WOW!!! ARIZONA TO BYPASS BIG GOV AND BUILD BORDER FENCE~~~

 
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have.

Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole.

Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor.

Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be.

Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly.
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Chain gangs are a good thing
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Prison is supposed to be punishment, not a government paid vacation. Chain gangs make a lot of sense. Put Sheriff Joe in charge, he knows how to treat prisoners.
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ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything.

We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge...
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The need to build it and then send the bill to the Federal government.

Then sue when they do not pay.

One of the primary responsibilities of the Federal Government in the Constitution is to "secure the borders".
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Chain gangs are a good thing
 Quoting: 2 1/2 Morans

Prison is supposed to be punishment, not a government paid vacation. Chain gangs make a lot of sense. Put Sheriff Joe in charge, he knows how to treat prisoners.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Chain gangs aren't that great when they are competing for your jobs....
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Superpowers no longer fight one another, their energy is now focused on defeating psychopathic loners. They are the drug lords and cult leaders who have at their command thousands of drug mules and suicide bombers. It is difficult ferreting them out; most super villains live in places where even roaches or rodents do not dare go.
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If they have all those people working for them and are so successful, are they really psychopathic? Are they really loners?
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These United States, should tell the Government to pack it up their asses!There is NOTHING they could do if we all stick together!moshpit
 Quoting: Nam Marine 1170522


Totally agree!

I really don't need "representation" that doesn't
represent me...


True "representation" is a "Republic".
Come on! We are not a "Republic" anymore.

They call us a "Democracy".

That is why when they go to "represent" us, they don't have to...they represent their own "agenda"...that is what
is called "democracy".

Their "presidency", their "agenda", their "administration"...how many more are there?

Geez.
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The need to build it and then send the bill to the Federal government.

Then sue when they do not pay.

One of the primary responsibilities of the Federal Government in the Constitution is to "secure the borders".
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so, they go against the Fed govt, but then they ask them to pay for it... HA!
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have.

Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole.

Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor.

Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be.

Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


Chain gangs are a good thing
 Quoting: 2 1/2 Morans

Prison is supposed to be punishment, not a government paid vacation. Chain gangs make a lot of sense. Put Sheriff Joe in charge, he knows how to treat prisoners.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


They just want to get the damn thing built one way or another. Heck I don't mind (well really I do ...) if illegal aliens build it, as long as they are closely supervised to ensure they don't put weak points into it.
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D gov vaunts to ooz d mexcams fo cheep labor
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Are these fences designed to keep the Mexican immigrants OUT or the American residents IN?

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Are these fences designed to keep the Mexican immigrants OUT or the American residents IN?

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I hope it keeps the Americans in, but I seriously doubt it....
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other WILL follow, literally, AND figuratively !!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: MoonBatz 1327743


We can only HOPE! :)
 Quoting: AnalyticalMind


How would look like if Mexico build something like a Chinese great wall along the border, no gates, no bridges, nothing going trough that border neither way, no oil, no fish, no fruit, no nothing, then finally dump what they have left in US dollars and trade it for more silver and gold, taking all its citizens back and sending all US citizens back either along with business, real estate owned here by Mexicans traded for real estate owned there by Americans, that sounds like fair wall?
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President Barack Obama will use the Texas-Mexico border as a backdrop on Tuesday to call again on Congress to fix the nation's broken immigration system and address the 11 million immigrants in this country illegally - including 1.6 million in Texas.

Obama is traveling to El Paso, across the border from violence-wracked Ciudad Juarez, where he will push for massive immigration reform, an initiative that has gotten little leverage in Congress.

[link to www.chron.com]

How about finishing the fence? 1dunno1
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Don't you mean the 45 million 11 million? LOL
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have.

Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole.

Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor.

Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be.

Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


Chain gangs are a good thing
 Quoting: 2 1/2 Morans

Prison is supposed to be punishment, not a government paid vacation. Chain gangs make a lot of sense. Put Sheriff Joe in charge, he knows how to treat prisoners.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Prisons were built by those who seek their own glory and they shall suffer its fate, let us take it to The Father's Throne in Heaven.

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other WILL follow, literally, AND figuratively !!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: MoonBatz 1327743


We can only HOPE! :)
 Quoting: AnalyticalMind


How would look like if Mexico build something like a Chinese great wall along the border, no gates, no bridges, nothing going trough that border neither way, no oil, no fish, no fruit, no nothing, then finally dump what they have left in US dollars and trade it for more silver and gold, taking all its citizens back and sending all US citizens back either along with business, real estate owned here by Mexicans traded for real estate owned there by Americans, that sounds like fair wall?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336935


It would look damn goo and still not be as dangerous to this country as allowing all these beaner monks to run free up here. We have enopugh p[arasites w/o importing an even lower stupid, nasty disease carryin'class you benawop you.
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brought to you by the same people bitching about govt debt and spending...
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Are these fences designed to keep the Mexican immigrants OUT or the American residents IN?

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I hope it keeps the Americans in, but I seriously doubt it....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546


Judging by the situation in America i'd say it's a pretty damn good time to find a better place until the dust has settled.

But that's just my opinion.
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The governemnet will stop it with the eminent domain.
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historically speaking, Mexico has a lot more to fear from the American invasion...
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They should build a big one around Washington DC.
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brought to you by the same people bitching about govt debt and spending...
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Did you miss the DONATIONS part?
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They should build a big one around Washington DC.
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brought to you by the same people bitching about govt debt and spending...
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Did you miss the DONATIONS part?
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


yeah right... good for the press, but we all know the real situation...
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other WILL follow, literally, AND figuratively !!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: MoonBatz 1327743


We can only HOPE! :)
 Quoting: AnalyticalMind


How would look like if Mexico build something like a Chinese great wall along the border, no gates, no bridges, nothing going trough that border neither way, no oil, no fish, no fruit, no nothing, then finally dump what they have left in US dollars and trade it for more silver and gold, taking all its citizens back and sending all US citizens back either along with business, real estate owned here by Mexicans traded for real estate owned there by Americans, that sounds like fair wall?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336935


Lol, I hate to burst you're bubble, but Mexico IS building a wall between them and South America. Do the research.
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this lame fence isn't enough. it's better than nothing, but not worth the expense. we had a better plan before, but that was too $$ and got shut down.

it's not the Mexicans we should be worried about coming across the border. it's terrorists from other countries with cells in Mexico!
North Korea for example.
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IN ALL DUE TIME, THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE WHAT THEY WANT.
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:01g: Arizona KICKS ASS
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If it's like the fence in Texas, then it won't do any good. That fence is constantly being climbed- it's so easy- with corrugated steps and all. Probably deliberately put that way.

At any rate, a fence will stop the very vital migration of wildlife to and fro.

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GOOD!

Now we need to build a border fence around Washington DC.
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