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~~~WOW!!! ARIZONA TO BYPASS BIG GOV AND BUILD BORDER FENCE~~~

 
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Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not.

They’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year."


How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Kudos, AZ!

Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers.

People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246648


Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth.
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I'll bet the widows/widowers of the people killed on the southern border would gladly contribute. In all fairness, Mexicans are alot like Americans, some good, some bad, so lumping them together isn't really fair. I worked side by side with illegals in Chaparral NM for a year, so I know this firsthand.

What this will boil down too, is sovereignty of state vs federal. I admire Brewer and some of the things she is trying to do. She's got bigger juevos than anyone in Washington and is doing what is right for her state.

The fact that O had to run to the UN and get them to ramrod a suit against AZ and coaxing 14 other countries to join in, was a big slap to the American people and you're own personal sovereignty. Once the UN starts exerting authority over sovereign issues such as this, it's over. But, then again, that is probably the plan and who really cares, it is probably to late to save America anyway.
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Great Find cRoSS FiRe 5* w00t...

Arizona Leading the way for an entire country...
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Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth.
 Quoting: Goku


Mexicans have no RIGHT to any part of the United States.

By your own statements, YOU are intending to own the Earth.
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have.

Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole.

Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor.

Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be.

Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


Why shouldn't they use prison labor, most of those assholes in prison there are illegal criminals. It's poetic justice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 769657


True that. Plus the taxpayers are paying for the upkeep of those prisoners. They might as well get some benefit from it. At one time, prisoners were required to work for their upkeep, they slept better and fought less. Not a bad idea.
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Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not.

They’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year."


How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Kudos, AZ!

Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers.

People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246648


It's not just the border states that "allow" businesses to hire illegals. It's done across the states and supported by the feds. It's fueled by greed and needs to stop. Border states are starting to see the light and the people are pushing back.
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That fence is not to keep the Mexicans and drug dealers from getting in, but to keep other people from getting out. It's a great way to bring more government to the border to supervise affairs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372971


We the people here in Arizona, don't want nor we need the Government. I pray that one day we will be a sovereign state. It just don't make since, TSA pat you down at the airports and take away our rights. Yet they do nothing with our boarders.
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Guaranteed Arizona politicians will steal 72%, like they do from everything else including the Fiesta Bowl!
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ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything.

We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546


Our tax dollars have been supporting the illegals for medical,welfare, wic and HUD. All that money we will be saving we won't need any of the feds funds..
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Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not.

They’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year."


How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Kudos, AZ!

Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers.

People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246648


Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth.
 Quoting: Goku


We refuse to support them.
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ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything.

We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546


Ummm...I think that's the point. AZ is CURRENTLY not getting federal support or proper funding to secure the border.

If they don't get the same federal support for prisons or detaining illegals, they should state fund a program to bus parollees and illegals to Washington DC.
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:01g: Arizona KICKS ASS
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ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything.

We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546


Ummm...I think that's the point. AZ is CURRENTLY not getting federal support or proper funding to secure the border.

If they don't get the same federal support for prisons or detaining illegals, they should state fund a program to bus parollees and illegals to Washington DC.
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We don't.. Our sheriff has set up tent city for our inmates and illegals. They live out in the desert with the temperatures reaching 105 degrees. They drink out of the water hose and the men wear pink underwear.
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obama will find some way to block it.
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Are any of you considering the dangers of the cartels or are we going to argue about immigration? Are we going to sit back and let the Zetas take over? Is the goobermint doing anything about it?

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The Zetas?
What about the Pledians!?!?
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have.

Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole.

Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor.

Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be.

Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


they are usimg prison labor , illegal immigrants in Arizona prisons will build the new fence to keep out their cousins and uncles and 200 other family members out of the USA..LOL
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


YES YES YES!!!!!!!

Then you would be able to turn your back and all your prisoners can escape into mexico...... save the state millions and keep mexico busy catching US crims for a change.
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The need to electrify that bitch, 20,000 volts of lethal electricity, and use sensors to detect breaches.

these people need to be stopped and the government is more concerned with 4 year old white Americans than they are criminal gangs and terrorists coming up from mexico.

It makes me wanna puke when they claim it's all for our own good.
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The federal government has a constitutional duty to protect it's borders.

It has not done so.

The states have a duty to their citizens to act when the feds will not.

Bravo, Arizona!
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Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it...

A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have.

Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole.

Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor.

Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be.

Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725


they are usimg prison labor , illegal immigrants in Arizona prisons will build the new fence to keep out their cousins and uncles and 200 other family members out of the USA..LOL
 Quoting: Nailer45


i think they ought to make the gang members themselves build it, and when they're done throw them back to "mehico", then anyone coming over the border uninvited should just be shot on sight.
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between the border of the US and Mexico have a mile wide DMZ with land mines ,C4 charges ,razor wire and all troops/border patrol officers given the order of shoot to kill anyone that enters the DMZ..

That would reduce the illegal immigrant invasion force. LOL
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In for $20 bucks...
And fuck you!
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Give citizens the power to use lethal force against resisting trespassers and i'll move to Arizona.
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Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not.

They’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year."


How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project?

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Kudos, AZ!

Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly.
 Quoting: cRoSS FiRe


People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers.

People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246648


Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth.
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stfu

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CIA/Government does not want borders because that would cut into their profits. War on drugs....what a joke!!!

CIA - Recruits Mercenaries and Drug-Traffickers

CIA Involvement With Drug Trade Resulted In Death Threats Against US Senator

Retired FBI sources have told the FBI that the Central Intelligence Agency’s involvement with drug smuggling was such a lucrative operation for the spy agency that it once threatened the life of a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, one of the two congressional oversight committees for the CIA. Arizona’s Democratic senator Dennis DeConcini also feared for the lives of his family members, according to the FBI sources. DeConcini served on the Senate intelligence committee from 1987 until his retirement in 1995. President Bill Clinton reportedly offered DeConcini the job of White House drug czar but he turned down the position because of threats received against him and his family.

Read more - [link to rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com]
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What's so bad about immigrants?
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nothing as long as they´re white....

as an eggshell!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366664


Nothing, as long as they wait in line, in turn like everyone who enters the country legally does. No--one likes people who jump in line. They don't fill out the proper paperwork and therefore aren't attached to follow the rules like citizens do.

Don't let people lie and say it's about skin color. There are plenty American citizens of Mexican descent that hate the illegal aliens not abiding by our laws as their are white people.

Sympathizers blame race. It's not about race, it's about following the same set of rules everyone else has to follow.
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two tunnels in arizona?......

arizona politicians are a joke!

they don´t have half a brain...



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Old News NOOB, use CURRENT news as proof
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CIA/Government does not want borders because that would cut into their profits. War on drugs....what a joke!!!

CIA - Recruits Mercenaries and Drug-Traffickers

CIA Involvement With Drug Trade Resulted In Death Threats Against US Senator

Retired FBI sources have told the FBI that the Central Intelligence Agency’s involvement with drug smuggling was such a lucrative operation for the spy agency that it once threatened the life of a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, one of the two congressional oversight committees for the CIA. Arizona’s Democratic senator Dennis DeConcini also feared for the lives of his family members, according to the FBI sources. DeConcini served on the Senate intelligence committee from 1987 until his retirement in 1995. President Bill Clinton reportedly offered DeConcini the job of White House drug czar but he turned down the position because of threats received against him and his family.

Read more - [link to rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com]
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Mexico, a major drug producing and transit country, is the main foreign supplier of cannabis and a major supplier of methamphetamine to the United States. Although Mexico accounts for only a small share of worldwide heroin (that is why were in Afghanistan, to control the heroin trade) production, it supplies a large share of the heroin distributed in the United States. Drug cartels in Mexico control approximately 70% of the foreign narcotics that flow into the United States.

The US State Department estimates that 90% of cocaine entering the United States transits through Mexico, with Colombia being the main cocaine producer and that wholesale of illicit drug sale earnings estimates range from $13.6 billion to $48.4 billion annually. Mexican drug traffickers increasingly smuggle money back into Mexico in cars and trucks, likely due to the effectiveness of U.S. efforts at monitoring electronic money transfers.

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All this can be delt with bolt cutters, waste of time unless

every linear foot was constantly monitored. Warning signs and

a mine field sound right to me. Keep the fuck out.

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