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~~~WOW!!! ARIZONA TO BYPASS BIG GOV AND BUILD BORDER FENCE~~~ | |
cRoSS FiRe (OP) User ID: 1237458  United States05/09/2011 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States05/09/2011 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth. Quoting: GokuMexicans have no RIGHT to any part of the United States. By your own statements, YOU are intending to own the Earth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States05/09/2011 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have. Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole. Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor. Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be. Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly. Why shouldn't they use prison labor, most of those assholes in prison there are illegal criminals. It's poetic justice. True that. Plus the taxpayers are paying for the upkeep of those prisoners. They might as well get some benefit from it. At one time, prisoners were required to work for their upkeep, they slept better and fought less. Not a bad idea. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States05/09/2011 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not. Quoting: cRoSS FiReThey’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year." How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project? [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Kudos, AZ! Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly. People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers. People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners. It's not just the border states that "allow" businesses to hire illegals. It's done across the states and supported by the feds. It's fueled by greed and needs to stop. Border states are starting to see the light and the people are pushing back. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 987808 United States05/09/2011 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That fence is not to keep the Mexicans and drug dealers from getting in, but to keep other people from getting out. It's a great way to bring more government to the border to supervise affairs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372971We the people here in Arizona, don't want nor we need the Government. I pray that one day we will be a sovereign state. It just don't make since, TSA pat you down at the airports and take away our rights. Yet they do nothing with our boarders. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342348 United States05/09/2011 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 987808 United States05/09/2011 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge... Our tax dollars have been supporting the illegals for medical,welfare, wic and HUD. All that money we will be saving we won't need any of the feds funds.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 987808 United States05/09/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not. Quoting: cRoSS FiReThey’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year." How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project? [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Kudos, AZ! Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly. People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers. People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners. Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth. We refuse to support them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States05/09/2011 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge... Ummm...I think that's the point. AZ is CURRENTLY not getting federal support or proper funding to secure the border. If they don't get the same federal support for prisons or detaining illegals, they should state fund a program to bus parollees and illegals to Washington DC. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1308649 United States05/09/2011 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| daisey User ID: 987808 United States05/09/2011 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, if AZ wants to play this game, no Fed funds for building the fence, no Fed funds for their prisons, no Fed funds for detaining illegals, no Fed funds for anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9546We'll see how long the prison lobby will let that go on in AZ. Brewer is a prison stooge... Ummm...I think that's the point. AZ is CURRENTLY not getting federal support or proper funding to secure the border. If they don't get the same federal support for prisons or detaining illegals, they should state fund a program to bus parollees and illegals to Washington DC. We don't.. Our sheriff has set up tent city for our inmates and illegals. They live out in the desert with the temperatures reaching 105 degrees. They drink out of the water hose and the men wear pink underwear. We have the best sheriff in town. We just love him.. "On Christ the solid Rock I stand! All other ground is sinking sand!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309524 United States05/09/2011 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Comedian User ID: 1374536 United States05/09/2011 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are any of you considering the dangers of the cartels or are we going to argue about immigration? Are we going to sit back and let the Zetas take over? Is the goobermint doing anything about it? Quoting: cRoSS FiRe The Zetas? What about the Pledians!?!?  Don't run. You'll just die tired. |
| Nailer45 User ID: 1375718 United States05/09/2011 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have. Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole. Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor. Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be. Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly. they are usimg prison labor , illegal immigrants in Arizona prisons will build the new fence to keep out their cousins and uncles and 200 other family members out of the USA..LOL Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1376998  Australia05/09/2011 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725YES YES YES!!!!!!! Then you would be able to turn your back and all your prisoners can escape into mexico...... save the state millions and keep mexico busy catching US crims for a change. |
| Dont vote User ID: 1376802 United States05/09/2011 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1204596 United States05/09/2011 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The need to electrify that bitch, 20,000 volts of lethal electricity, and use sensors to detect breaches. these people need to be stopped and the government is more concerned with 4 year old white Americans than they are criminal gangs and terrorists coming up from mexico. It makes me wanna puke when they claim it's all for our own good. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370135 United States05/09/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1204596 United States05/09/2011 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well it would have been a better idea if they didn't use Prison Labor to do it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029725A community works project of this scale could have supported a pretty huge workforce and supplied many with jobs that otherwise they wouldn't have. Makes you wonder what it is exactly they're protecting? If you live in a state where you can't afford to hire even day laborers for a project like this, what the hell are you protecting, sounds like a shithole. Create jobs where they're needed, fill them with eager people ready to work with their hands towards a goal, and THEN when you can't find any more laborers use prison labor. Otherwise it's just more prison planet shenanigans and I hope the US Govt stops them with force, because they need to be. Ironically I would be 100% behind this IF they used paid labor and provided jobs to the citizens, but using Prison Labor just shows they have zero desire to do the right thing and only want to act out of the wrong motivations which can only end badly. they are usimg prison labor , illegal immigrants in Arizona prisons will build the new fence to keep out their cousins and uncles and 200 other family members out of the USA..LOL i think they ought to make the gang members themselves build it, and when they're done throw them back to "mehico", then anyone coming over the border uninvited should just be shot on sight. |
| Nailer45 User ID: 1375718 United States05/09/2011 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | between the border of the US and Mexico have a mile wide DMZ with land mines ,C4 charges ,razor wire and all troops/border patrol officers given the order of shoot to kill anyone that enters the DMZ.. That would reduce the illegal immigrant invasion force. LOL Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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| Socco User ID: 1376906 United States05/09/2011 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excerpt: "Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico — whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not. Quoting: cRoSS FiReThey’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners and construction could begin as soon as this year." How long before TPTB deem this an illegal construction project? [link to www.washingtonpost.com] Kudos, AZ! Update, Brewer is about to make a public statement shortly. People may not like what I have to say but these border states basically allow businesses to hire illegals. That's where the problem starts and ends. If they refuse to revoke their license to do business for worker violations then they deserve an influx of illegal workers. People might not agree with that but it's the truth. If people weren't able to get a job without an ssn then illegals wouldn't be pouring into the country. While that basically makes big brother bigger, it's still the case. What we have here is a bunch of unethical business owners using a labor cost advantage to squeeze out the ethical business owners. Mexicans have every Wright to California, they were Murdered and Forced to Leave 4 Gold. You Cannot and Will Never Own The Earth.   The truth only smiles |
| Wake Up User ID: 407421 United States05/09/2011 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CIA/Government does not want borders because that would cut into their profits. War on drugs....what a joke!!! CIA - Recruits Mercenaries and Drug-Traffickers CIA Involvement With Drug Trade Resulted In Death Threats Against US Senator Retired FBI sources have told the FBI that the Central Intelligence Agency’s involvement with drug smuggling was such a lucrative operation for the spy agency that it once threatened the life of a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, one of the two congressional oversight committees for the CIA. Arizona’s Democratic senator Dennis DeConcini also feared for the lives of his family members, according to the FBI sources. DeConcini served on the Senate intelligence committee from 1987 until his retirement in 1995. President Bill Clinton reportedly offered DeConcini the job of White House drug czar but he turned down the position because of threats received against him and his family. Read more - [link to rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1361116 United States05/09/2011 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's so bad about immigrants? Quoting: Xibalbá benothing as long as they´re white.... as an eggshell! Nothing, as long as they wait in line, in turn like everyone who enters the country legally does. No--one likes people who jump in line. They don't fill out the proper paperwork and therefore aren't attached to follow the rules like citizens do. Don't let people lie and say it's about skin color. There are plenty American citizens of Mexican descent that hate the illegal aliens not abiding by our laws as their are white people. Sympathizers blame race. It's not about race, it's about following the same set of rules everyone else has to follow. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1333874 United States05/09/2011 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Wake Up User ID: 407421 United States05/09/2011 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CIA/Government does not want borders because that would cut into their profits. War on drugs....what a joke!!! Quoting: Wake UpCIA - Recruits Mercenaries and Drug-Traffickers CIA Involvement With Drug Trade Resulted In Death Threats Against US Senator Retired FBI sources have told the FBI that the Central Intelligence Agency’s involvement with drug smuggling was such a lucrative operation for the spy agency that it once threatened the life of a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, one of the two congressional oversight committees for the CIA. Arizona’s Democratic senator Dennis DeConcini also feared for the lives of his family members, according to the FBI sources. DeConcini served on the Senate intelligence committee from 1987 until his retirement in 1995. President Bill Clinton reportedly offered DeConcini the job of White House drug czar but he turned down the position because of threats received against him and his family. Read more - [link to rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com] Mexico, a major drug producing and transit country, is the main foreign supplier of cannabis and a major supplier of methamphetamine to the United States. Although Mexico accounts for only a small share of worldwide heroin (that is why were in Afghanistan, to control the heroin trade) production, it supplies a large share of the heroin distributed in the United States. Drug cartels in Mexico control approximately 70% of the foreign narcotics that flow into the United States. The US State Department estimates that 90% of cocaine entering the United States transits through Mexico, with Colombia being the main cocaine producer and that wholesale of illicit drug sale earnings estimates range from $13.6 billion to $48.4 billion annually. Mexican drug traffickers increasingly smuggle money back into Mexico in cars and trucks, likely due to the effectiveness of U.S. efforts at monitoring electronic money transfers. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Survival Sun User ID: 1336674 United States05/09/2011 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All this can be delt with bolt cutters, waste of time unless every linear foot was constantly monitored. Warning signs and a mine field sound right to me. Keep the fuck out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1207295 United States05/09/2011 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Survival Sun User ID: 1336674 United States05/09/2011 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The need to electrify that bitch, 20,000 volts of lethal electricity, and use sensors to detect breaches. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1204596these people need to be stopped and the government is more concerned with 4 year old white Americans than they are criminal gangs and terrorists coming up from mexico. It makes me wanna puke when they claim it's all for our own good. This would be a more humane solution. Last Edited by Survival Sun on 05/09/2011 09:38 PM |
