1981 "The Man Who Saw Tomorrow" - Who was Nostradamus refering to as "A man with the blue turban"? Pakistan or India?

I seem to remember all the Nostradamus 3rd Antichrist horseshit pointing to Spain.

I could be wrong, that was a long time ago.

All sane people have disembarked off the S.S. Nostradamus in 1990.

I have heard the antichrist will have a power to hypnotize people into believing he is the best thing since sliced bread. Now think of nObama and his effect on the USA population - and his approval numbers. Practically every word he speaks is a lie.

Hell - just yesterday nObama stated we were drilling more oil than ever in our history. A quick visit to the Dept of Energy site shows in 1970 we were drilling 9.6 million barrels of oil/day and today that figure is 5.5 million barrels/day.

But because nObama says it is ok then we have no need to get upset or angry. Gee - a telling of the antichrist?




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Just cuious.. but why do you say 1990? Thanks in advance.

Look for a peace-deal between Pakistan and India, following a color revolution.

I saw that movie with my Dad in the theatres when it first came out. Interesting, but inaccurate. Here is the quatrain:

C10 Q72
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.

This one is about 9/11. The year is a transposition of 9111, and the seventh month of the Jewish calendar is September.

All of this:
"A "King of Terror", wearing a blue turban, described as "the terror of mankind", would rise to power from Greater Arabia during the late 1990's, wage war around the world and spread the influence of Islamic fundamentalism, along with decreasing the influence of Christianity. Nostradamus claims that the "King of Terror" would form an alliance with the Russian Federation. According to Nostradamus, the "King of Terror" and Russia would wage World War III against the West (United States, United Kingdom and France), starting with a nuclear strike on New York City ("the sky will burn at 45 degrees, fire approaches the great new city"). Nostradamus claims that World War III would last about 27 years, and the war would destroy cities and kill millions. The "King of Terror" would be defeated."

is a mixed-up mess of several quatrains, other peoples' speculation and misinterpretations, and is mostly wrong.

That's too bad for you, because Nostradamus was the real thing. It's unfortunate that so many people dismiss him just because they can't understand his prophecies, but that's not my problem. Observe:

Century 1, Quatrain 25
The lost thing is discovered, hidden for many centuries.
Pasteur will be celebrated almost as a God-like figure.
This is when the moon completes her great cycle,
but by other rumors he shall be dishonored.



from Wikipedia:

Louis Pasteur (December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895) was a French chemist and microbiologist born in Dole. He is remembered for his remarkable breakthroughs in the causes and preventions of diseases. His discoveries reduced mortality from puerperal fever, and he created the first vaccine for rabies and anthrax. His experiments supported the germ theory of disease. He was best known to the general public for inventing a method to stop milk and wine from causing sickness, a process that came to be called pasteurization. He is regarded as one of the three main founders of microbiology, together with Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch. Pasteur also made many discoveries in the field of chemistry, most notably the molecular basis for the asymmetry of certain crystals. His body lies beneath the Institute Pasteur in Paris in a spectacular vault covered in depictions of his accomplishments in Byzantine mosaics.

In 1995, the centennial of the death of Louis Pasteur, the New York Times ran an article titled "Pasteur's Deception". After having thoroughly read Pasteur's lab notes the science historian Gerald L. Geison declared that Pasteur had given a misleading account of the preparation of the anthrax vaccine used in the experiment at Pouilly-le-Fort.






Century 1, Quatrain 50

From the three water signs will be born a man
who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.

Century 2, Quatrain 28

The penultimate of the surname of the Prophet
Will take Diana [Thursday] for his day and rest:
He will wander far because of a frantic head,
And delivering a great people from subjection.

Century 10, Quatrain 71

The earth and air will freeze a very great sea,
When they will come to venerate Thursday:
That which will be never was it so fair,
From the four parts they will come to honor it.



from Wikipedia:

Nostradamus:
Born on 14 or 21 December 1503 in Saint-Rémy-de-Provence in the south of France, where his claimed birthplace still exists, Michel de Nostredame was one of at least nine children of Reynière de St-Rémy and grain dealer and notary Jaume de Nostredame. The latter's family had originally been Jewish, but Jaume's father, Guy Gassonet, had converted to Catholicism around 1455, taking the Christian name "Pierre" and the surname "Nostredame" (the latter apparently from the saint's day on which his conversion was solemnized).

Sun Yat-sen (pinyin: Sun Yixian; 12 November 1866 - 12 March 1925) was a Chinese revolutionary and political leader. As the foremost pioneer of Nationalist China, Sun is frequently referred to as the Father of the Nation. Sun played an instrumental role in inspiring the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty, the last imperial dynasty of China, which began in in October 1911. He was the first provisional president when the Republic of China (ROC) was founded in 1912 and later co-founded the Kuomintang (KMT) where he served as its first leader. Sun was a uniting figure in post-Imperial China, and remains unique among 20th-century Chinese politicians for being widely revered amongst the people from both sides of the Taiwan Strait.
Although Sun is considered one of the greatest leaders of modern China, his political life was one of constant struggle and frequent exile. After the success of the revolution, he quickly fell out of power in the newly founded Republic of China, and led successive revolutionary governments as a challenge to the warlords who controlled much of the nation. Sun did not live to see his party consolidate its power over the country. His party, which formed a fragile alliance with the Communists, split into two factions after his death. Sun's chief legacy resides in his developing a political philosophy known as the Three Principles of the People: nationalism, democracy, and the people's livelihood.

In March 1904, he obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on (Thursday) November 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui.


The one about Pasteur is plainly accurate. The key to understanding the ones about Sun Yat-Sen is the line 'the penultimate of the surname of the prophet'. Nostradamus refers to his original surname, Gassonnet, and the penultimate of it is its second-last syllable, which is 'son'. The details of Sun Yat-Sen's career are consistent with these quatrains. The line 'freeze a very great sea' refers to the Chinese people being united. The symbolism Nostradamus uses is similar to that of the Bible.

Reason being: We all watched "The Man Who Saw Tomorrow" which I believe very clearly spelled out 1986 as the year some nasty shit was going to go down. We all went out and bought all the Nostradamus Books. We all bit our nails as 86 (or whenever it was) came and went. Maybe a few even gave it another year just in Case old Nostrie couldn't cosine a transient or something.

By 1990, we had all learned that Nostradamus was at the worst, nonsense or at best Poems derived from Astrological correspondences that repeat cyclically to greater or lesser degree but do not spell out anything specific enough for us to use*.

*Unless you're a Level 50 Spook Mage who has the key. Nostradamus needs a key. Borders does not have the Key.

Wow..someone out there knows a thing or two. As for the blue turban..didn't happen..

Read up on Nostradamus my man. You are right America didn't even exist as a country. However I do believe it was discovered by Spain. He has referred to the new city or new land many times. Not saying he was correct, but pretty accurate in many quatrains. Of course the interpretations are incredibly Monday morning quarterback as they are so vague.

C9 Q73
The Blue Turban King entered into Foix,
And he will reign less than an evolution of Saturn:
The White Turban King Byzantium heart banished,
Sun, Mars and Mercury near Aquarius.

This is the only one that mentions a blue turban.

I know it's easy to assume I'm a Wide-Eyed Polyanna Noob about Nostradamus. I'm not.

Nostradamus's work is for the VERY initiated, and even those people need to do some work, it's not just handed to them.

Trying to go to Borders and buying the latest spin book on Nostradamus is like trying to live your life by newspaper horroscopes. It's just not going to be fruitful.

Meanwhile, my challenge to you would be to give us all something practical from Nostradamus, something we can all agree is practical...like information about the next "big" event...when, where, how, who and why.

Thanks!

I do not like divination that is only evident in hindsight.

Well that's just it, it's unlikely anyone will have information about the next big event before it happens. This is the way it is with Revelation. This passage, although written in a rather flowerly, majestic style, makes clear that people will not understand it until afterwards:

Apocalypse 15, 5-8
And after this I looked, and behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony was opened in heaven, and there came forth out of the temple the seven angels who had the seven plagues, clothed with clean white linen, and girt about their breasts with golden girdles. And one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls, full of the wrath of God who lives forever and ever. And the temple was filled with smoke from the majesty of God, and from His power; and no one could enter into the temple till the seven plagues of the seven angels were finished.

It's still of some benefit that they can be understood after the events have happened. There was never really any chance of preventing them, and that's entirely fair. If people had known what they meant beforehand would they have behaved any differently? Maybe, but probably not. Most of the terrible things that are prophecied were done by evil people who didn't believe anyway. Those of us who come after and can see clearly that the prophecies were real and came true can at least know that there is a God and that His Prophets are accurate. There are still a few prophecies that haven't happened yet, and they may yet be understood before the events occur, but that won't stop the events from happening. Ultimately it is all Man's own doing, his choice, for good or bad.

Yeah, for me, not so much. I say feh.

Useless diviniation is useless.

Also, on a sidenote, I happen to know why Divination fails, confuses, or misleads in this dispensation.

In short, it all comes through the Astral, and the Astral that is around us, right now, is in Negative Polarity, just like the Earth. Nothing "Good" can come of it, unfortunately.

Excellent point!

Are you MI6 or CIA ?

The year 1999, seventh month, [or simply "sept"]
From the sky will come a great King of Terror.
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck

The date was out because Joseph Stalin (jupiter) or Odin had been delayed 10 years from his next life because he needed to
help mao ( mercury) against the US.

Jupiter is the sky God.

The great king of the mongols batu khan....( mercury )or thor.

Mars to reign with help from the Gods.....Bin Laden FIRST and tyr SECOND.Both Mars.

You do realise that the NWO has rewrote much of these predictions.As per his letter,only I can interpret these.

Well said...she's probably MI5

It will be a group in the UN that band together under the blue "head scarve"

dude he was french, french to the bone. Deal with it.

blue turban in his time could mean even the UN hehe

Bingo....! Where the vast majority of the former Soviet Union missle sites are located....! Anybody have any idea who has the keys to these nuclear sites....?