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Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED

 
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Just bringing this back since this last CME was very close to 60 degrees West...interesting read for sure

Coming up on Solar Max 24 I thought this might come into account before long..

"CMEs can account for most proton storms," says Lin, but not the proton storm of January 20th. According to theory, CMEs can't push material to Earth quickly enough.

Back to the drawing board: If a CME didn't accelerate the protons, what did?

"We have an important clue," says Lin. When the explosion occurred, sunspot 720 was located at a special place on the sun: 60o west longitude. This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."



"We've been hit by strong proton storms before, but [never so quickly]," says solar physicist Robert Lin of UC Berkeley. "Proton storms normally develop hours or even days after a flare."This one began in minutes.


[link to science.nasa.gov]


This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."

Connected being the key word...meaning they could possibly create earthquakes..?? By a special place on the sun`s surface?? I have never heard of this or seen it discussed here..

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[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

The magnetosphere is taking a big hit right now...caused by what I don`t know because there has only really been on good CME in the last few days and it happened late yesterday..The particles should not be here yet unless the particles that shot off the western limb (like in the artical above) already got here..

Click on the movie LASCO2....it clearly shows the blast generated particles of the western limb also

[link to www.solarham.com]

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There is something strange going on with this hit we are taking now...Nothing has happened that WE ARE aware of that should have caused this..unless it is a cover up of some sorts...

It looks like it`s peaked already..which is simular to a big flare`s initial blast...BUT there have been no recorded blast on the flux tables..still digging for info
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"We have an important clue," says Lin. When the explosion occurred, sunspot 720 was located at a special place on the sun: 60o west longitude. This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."---> Link for this in first post

This is my only guess right now...There was some particles from the last blast yesterday that flew out the west side
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Great thread Looking, this seems to be happening more and more. Remember the backside cme that spun around and connected with us, about two months ago? They even admitted that the area was magnetically connected to Earth. The Parker Spiral.
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Great thread Looking, this seems to be happening more and more. Remember the backside cme that spun around and connected with us, about two months ago? They even admitted that the area was magnetically connected to Earth. The Parker Spiral.
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Yup--and here is a link explaining how the CME`s can actually change directions and pick up speed...

[link to science.nasa.gov]



The density is coming in waves..sharp peaks...strange deal..

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

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Wow--That got here very quick..Thanks for the link..It wasn`t suppose to be earthbound,,??

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Wow--That got here very quick..Thanks for the link
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You might want to save that Looking, they have a tendency to remove these pretty quickly. I have lost track of how many times they have.
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A great site, to monitor activity. I don't know the owner, but he is very on top of things.
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Excellent LooknThru!
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Re: Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED
Here is a related thread. As soon as your article asked the question of what could push protons faster, it reminded me of my thread:

Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it as well, out of Chaos.

Thread: Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it out of Chaos.
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Here is a related thread. As soon as your article asked the question of what could push protons faster, it reminded me of my thread:

Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it as well, out of Chaos.

Thread: Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it out of Chaos.
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"We have an important clue," says Lin. When the explosion occurred, sunspot 720 was located at a special place on the sun: 60o west longitude. This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."---> Link for this in first post

What do you make of this statement SS...what could be so special about this location on the sun that makes it connects us magnetically..60o west as in bold above......They act as tho any CME that would be produced from this region would hit Earth within minutes..

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Re: Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED
Here is a related thread. As soon as your article asked the question of what could push protons faster, it reminded me of my thread:

Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it as well, out of Chaos.

Thread: Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it out of Chaos.
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"We have an important clue," says Lin. When the explosion occurred, sunspot 720 was located at a special place on the sun: 60o west longitude. This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."---> Link for this in first post

What do you make of this statement SS...what could be so special about this location on the sun that makes it connects us magnetically..60o west as in bold above......They act as tho any CME that would be produced from this region would hit Earth within minutes..
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That's a huge statement...need to do some research on it.
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Re: Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED
Here is a related thread. As soon as your article asked the question of what could push protons faster, it reminded me of my thread:

Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it as well, out of Chaos.

Thread: Magnetism not only Powers the most Energetic form of Light in the known Universe, but Structures it out of Chaos.
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"We have an important clue," says Lin. When the explosion occurred, sunspot 720 was located at a special place on the sun: 60o west longitude. This means "the sunspot was magnetically connected to Earth."---> Link for this in first post

What do you make of this statement SS...what could be so special about this location on the sun that makes it connects us magnetically..60o west as in bold above......They act as tho any CME that would be produced from this region would hit Earth within minutes..
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


That's a huge statement...need to do some research on it.
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That is what I thought also...perhaps a "slip" of some sort..I`ll do some looking on my end also
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Re: Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED
He explains: The sun's magnetic field spirals out into the solar system like water from a lawn sprinkler. (Why? The sun spins like a lawn sprinkler does.) The magnetic field emerging from solar longitude 60o W bends around and intersects Earth. Protons are guided by magnetic force fields so, on January 20th, there was a superhighway for protons leading all the way from sunspot 720 to our planet.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

I missed this the first time I read the article...The "Superhighway"....something to keep in mind..now we need to find a map of the sun and see where 60o degrees west is...so WE know anything that comes through that area would be worth watching...can`t believe nobody here has heard of this before or discussed it..


Like this I rekon...There is that spiral again...

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

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[link to solar-center.stanford.edu]

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You might find these interesting:
The Sun is currently behaving unexpectedly in a number of ways.[119][120]

* It is in the midst of an unusual sunspot minimum, lasting far longer and with a higher percentage of spotless days than normal; since May 2008.
* It is measurably dimming; its output has dropped 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at EUV wavelengths in comparison with the levels at the last solar minimum.[121]
* Over the last two decades, the solar wind's speed has dropped by 3%, its temperature by 13%, and its density by 20%.[122]
* Its magnetic field is at less than half strength compared to the minimum of 22 years ago. The entire heliosphere, which fills the Solar System, has shrunk as a result, resulting in an increase in the level of cosmic radiation striking the Earth and its atmosphere.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

SS, remind you of the Boeing guy's thread?
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Well no kidding, Been this way since day one. And aint gonna change.
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Re: Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED
Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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OK, Sooo, 50 more years?
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Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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SS---I think you might enjoy this guy...He was the one who wrote the article above. I e-mailed him asking him more about this magnetic connection at 60o west...anyhow check out his work


[link to www.physics.berkeley.edu]
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Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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That's what I thought also, I did find the fact that Nasa recalculated the Max to 2012/2013 pretty interesting.
I suspect what we are seeing now, is the Sun's poles flipping, normal and happens every Max, and my theory is, this allows random spots to occur out of the normal lats they are usually in around 19 to 20th latitudes.

I noticed about two or three months ago, that the north pole was shrinking, indicating a weakened field.

Sorry Looking, not trying to hyjack the thread.
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Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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OK, Sooo, 50 more years?
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Sooner lol. Don't forget the Earth's mag field has also weakened.
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Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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That's what I thought also, I did find the fact that Nasa recalculated the Max to 2012/2013 pretty interesting.
I suspect what we are seeing now, is the Sun's poles flipping, normal and happens every Max, and my theory is, this allows random spots to occur out of the normal lats they are usually in around 19 to 20th latitudes.

I noticed about two or three months ago, that the north pole was shrinking, indicating a weakened field.

Sorry Looking, not trying to hyjack the thread.
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Hey brutha---it`s all up for discussion on my threads man..It`s all connected

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Thanks Looking, I agree, it is all connected. I used to remind people, "it's all about magnetics", even I didn't realise how prophetic that was.
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Re: Proton Storms...Magnetically Connected to Earth by a special location on the sun?? UPDATED
Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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OK, Sooo, 50 more years?
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No, it pushed it about a year off. To doomtards, that is drastically off. chuckle
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Yes AC, I have gone over those numbers before. If you remember Boeing's timeframe, he was thinking end of year 2010. I think the longer than usual minimum fucked up, drastically, his timeframeme..
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SS---I think you might enjoy this guy...He was the one who wrote the article above. I e-mailed him asking him more about this magnetic connection at 60o west...anyhow check out his work


[link to www.physics.berkeley.edu]
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