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Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?

 
Anonymous Coward
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i think us that have gardens should find ways to camouflage them
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I hear Smith & Wesson works well! ohyeah
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05/11/2011 01:13 PM
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
The government has long had this power.

As I recall it is some sort of Executive Order going back to Eisenhower's early years.

(as the cold war with nuclear weapons was growing in destructive possibilities - the USSR getting an H bomb in the early 50's)

Before the Cold War the US Government always was of the opinion it could take what it needed in a national emergency anyway ... which it did in the Civil War and WW2.

Nothing new here.
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STFU. exec orders to not apply to the people only the employees of the prez.
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Not quite. Executive orders are laws pronounced by the President. Congress can override them if they violently disagree. And yes, it looks like Kennedy signed the first set of them in 1962:

[link to www.sweetliberty.org]

For a chilling read, google FEMA executive order.
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BS. exec orders do not apply to the people but only the employees of the prez. you have not proven otherwise. congress writes the laws. read the constitution.
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05/11/2011 01:14 PM
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
Not only that but they want everyone with so much as a backyard garden to register that garden, or face a fine.
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Important thing is to be far off the grid where they will not find yor see you .
location is the key .
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BS. stand up and quit acting like a slave.
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05/11/2011 01:16 PM
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same news source that has been claiming for a decade that vitamins would be outlawed.
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
......If you all really want to prepare, you have to prepare everyone, or at least most everyone. But try tearing a 16 year old today from their Iphone to get them to do some farm labor! HA!

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You laugh but we gotta get rid of the illegals who are doing that farm labor.
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I agree with that. But I don't think most kids today would take you up. I would, but I'm older and maybe a little wiser. Oh, and I'm broke.

But I don't think a lot of todays kids would, even if they were hungry. I think if things got bad, most of them would turn to banditry before they tried making or doing something for food.
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05/11/2011 01:21 PM
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This is the point of the surveys they try to intimidate people into filling out. We got a "farm survey" a few years ago that went into incredible detail and wanted to know all about crop history, etc. Of course we didn't fill it out but this is just what I was thinking at the time.
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05/11/2011 01:23 PM
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
We continue to get forms because we have a farm deduction on our IRS. Asking us to give them all our 'crop' and livestock and land info.

Thing is, we raise horses. We're in Texas

And I have always wondered... the Bureau of Land Management has over 30,000 horses in pens... wild horse which have been rounded up and are costing the gvt millions to feed.

The WWII bomber jackets which are still around today and are in great shape were made from horse hide, not cowhide. A little known secret is that at the last time of an extremely high horse population in the USA, horses were consumed by the American public.

It took until the early '50's for machinery to equal the number of horse farm teams, at which time horses were no longer necessary and the usa had a huge surplus of horses. Yep, we ate 'em, folks. The gvt. feed horses to our troops. Horse meat is much healthier than beef; it's like emu.

So if our gvt defaults on its debt, you think they're going to keep pumping in millions to keep horses in pens?
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Why not just eat venison ffs?
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05/11/2011 01:26 PM
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Yikes! It's worse than I thought - 79 million to feed horses this year alone! Now over 40, 000 horses in pens.

[link to www.oregonlive.com]
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If the Gov't were smart, they'd begin training those horses to pull wagons so that when gas gets to $10 a gallon we could "seamlessly" segue back to horse-power. They could then sell the trained horses and recuperate their money.

Naah, too logical.

Before (and during) WW1 the Gov't BOUGHT saddle-broke horses and mules for the troops. The farmers and ranchers made money by selling hay and grain to the Gov't. By WW2 it was all about gasoline-powered vehicles.
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If the government ever tries any shit like this it will be a bloodbath.Some Americans who are not pussys will stand up and stop this shit one day,mark my words.
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05/11/2011 01:34 PM
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"Give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes the laws" Mayer Amschel Rothschild
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"When you control oil you control the nations of the world. When you control food you control all the people of the world." - Henry Kissinger
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I don't know any farmers in Texas, but I know farmers in Wyoming and Nebraska. These guys will not stand around and watch anyone take their produce. In general, people in Wyoming and Nebraska are heavily armed, and proficient with their weapons.
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Buck Shot says they might have a hell of a time.
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Claymores around garden perimeter says they'll have an even harder time ;-)
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
The government has long had this power.

As I recall it is some sort of Executive Order going back to Eisenhower's early years.

(as the cold war with nuclear weapons was growing in destructive possibilities - the USSR getting an H bomb in the early 50's)

Before the Cold War the US Government always was of the opinion it could take what it needed in a national emergency anyway ... which it did in the Civil War and WW2.

Nothing new here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359758


True. they can do it during marshall law too.
But NOW things are getting so bad (or they are SAYING things are so bad) that it looks like they actually WILL be taking the food.

But what they REALLY want to do is take all the organic food and trash it or eat it themselves. They don't want us healthy.
Healthy bodies create healthy minds which cause people to think for themself. Not good in their book.
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05/11/2011 02:19 PM
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
quote from link:

"FEMA was doing an inventory of all the farms around ... metroplexes," he said, which included nearby Houston and other large cities. "They started calling up farms and wanted to know where farms were, and they were being prepared to maybe take food if they need to, from farms, you know, for a crisis like that."


Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]


[link to www.naturalnews.com]
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As in confiscate you mean steal. Let's call it what it is.
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05/11/2011 02:21 PM
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
Add to that, they most certainly will not spend satellite imagery for a garden, when a local footman will find it just as fast. Besides, who said there will be any satellite imagery available, let alone communications capabilities to relay the information to local command?
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HELLO???? SATELLITE SYSTEMS HAV BEEN CAPABLE OF RIDICULOUS SPYING SCRUTINY FOR DECADES!!!!!!!!!! local footman, LOL!!! MAYBE robot androids but..... jeez - wake up
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Why don't you just unplug your internet connection while you demonstrate to yourself how you get hold of the satellite images while the connection is down (any image will do actually.) Have fun! ;-)
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There are countless satellite communication/connection systems beyond the internet using technologies (unknown to the general population)that have been in use for decades.
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
Its much easier than that, force their resignation. Get a few hundred guys, 10,000 signatures, town hall meeting, invite the Sheriff and the Mayor. If they Mayor or Sheriff refuse, for their resignation.

"We the people of [said district] hereby declare all representatives to step down until further notice. They are not to return to their offices unless the people of {said district] request them to".

If they refuse to resign, sue and arrest them for supporting a tyrannical government, fraud, failure to represent in accordance of the law, failure to uphold the laws of the land, and treason. In some cases add racketeering, inside trading, and even attempted murder. Regardless, lock them out of your local office.

Senators, assemblymen, judges, main stream meadia. If they were gone, the rest would flee.

Whats happening to the American people isn't some 'bill' aimed at taxing them more. They are bills and illegal laws aimed at killing off the Americans.

behind closed doors...
"Fuck it! If we can't get their guns away from them we will get them away from their guns!"....

GET IT???? Forced resignations.
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You sound like you could start this in your town. You do that, have a good outcome and then you can run for office of one of these jobs. I'd bet you'd win by a landslide.
Anonymous Coward
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05/11/2011 02:35 PM
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so...when did all of the big warehouse retailers start selling doom food and doom supplies?

I went to Costco for the first time in a couple of months...wow.

Stack of freeze dried MREs in a box, and 200 meal buckets...frozen strawberries, milk, eggs...

wtfwtf
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05/11/2011 02:47 PM
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One more dot to connect. When FEMA is in the heartland poking around while monitoring the Levee situation, not to mention the NLE 2011 exercise, one starts to go hmmm... now why the hell are you messin with us simple folk?
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
......If you all really want to prepare, you have to prepare everyone, or at least most everyone. But try tearing a 16 year old today from their Iphone to get them to do some farm labor! HA!

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You laugh but we gotta get rid of the illegals who are doing that farm labor.
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I agree with that. But I don't think most kids today would take you up. I would, but I'm older and maybe a little wiser. Oh, and I'm broke.

But I don't think a lot of todays kids would, even if they were hungry. I think if things got bad, most of them would turn to banditry before they tried making or doing something for food.
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Unfortunately, I must agree. Up to and including WW2 kids and teen-agers were expected to "help out" on the farm, in the shop, the store, and of course at home. That's why schools let the kids out for "summer vacation", so they could help out on the farm with the work and the harvest. It was not uncommon for people to be married at 15 or 16, when they were considered adults. The group known as "Teen-agers" weren't invented until the '50's, when Madison Avenue realized that they were a revenue stream which could be profitably tapped. After WW2, our country was prosperous enough that we could afford to hire others to do the manual labor and jobs which were deemed "too hard". Enter the illegals.

Now we are 3 or 4 generations away from the days of kids and teen-agers actually HAVING to work. I realize that there ARE exceptions, but the fact that they are considered "exceptions" and not "the norm" says it all.

And considering that the teachers, their unions, and other "public servants" are brainwashing the kids in school today into believing that "the end justifies the means" indicates that they are NOT taught ethics and morality, but rather that any act no matter how heinous is all right so long as YOU obtain YOUR goal.

So, if a group of "gang-bangers" decides that their "goal" is food and shelter, who is going to stop them? Would YOU be able to fire at a bunch of kids?
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05/11/2011 02:56 PM
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
I don't know any farmers in Texas, but I know farmers in Wyoming and Nebraska. These guys will not stand around and watch anyone take their produce. In general, people in Wyoming and Nebraska are heavily armed, and proficient with their weapons.
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so were pple in Waco, TX
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
Since we have been gardening, we use the "square foot" method instead of planting in rows. The main reason for this was because there is less weeding, watering and you can plant more food with less acreage.

The secondary reason for this is satellite imagery. When they want to know who has gardens, which do you think would be more obvious from space, those who plant in traditional rows or those with a bunch of random squares in their back yard? ;)
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ive got mine in containers in case I have to GO, also with the SFG you could drape a camo tarp over it
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05/11/2011 03:03 PM
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NOW, you can take your tomato plants inside...OR THEY WILL BE CONFISCATED! Your plant will be considered a farm.
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ALL YOUR TOMATO PLANTS ARE BELONG TO US.
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
FEMA could punch their way out of a wet paper bag.

You people think they have the organizational and logistical capabilities to handle the confiscation of large numbers of farms in the US?

I just don't see this happening on a scale that will matter.

This is the same group that accidently gave out 22M dollars to people that were not supposed to get funds for disaster recovery, and is now asking for the money back.

Fuck FEMA, they aint taking jack shit from nobody.
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It would take an ass load of fuckers to subdue the people once they Wake up, I agree they will have problems
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mass arrest all politicians and officials for treason and genocide.
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yeppers
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Execute them first. We can do the trials later.
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""When you control oil you control the nations of the world. When you control food you control all the people of the world." - Henry Kissinger

An important thing to ad though, is that you can more easily control people if you give them plenty of food in general. People will remain docile until they are suffering or their food goes away. When people are starving they resort to drastic measures.
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Not only that but they want everyone with so much as a backyard garden to register that garden, or face a fine.
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They do??
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someone told me that if you are stocking up on food to make the food look as if it wasnt professionally prepared. supposedly that is the food they will take first. anyone else heard this?
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You mean, make the pancakes look homemade rather than in a Krusteaz package? That sort of thing?
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Re: Alert!! FEMA to confiscate food from local farms in emergencies?
This is the point of the surveys they try to intimidate people into filling out. We got a "farm survey" a few years ago that went into incredible detail and wanted to know all about crop history, etc. Of course we didn't fill it out but this is just what I was thinking at the time.
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If the government ever tries any shit like this it will be a bloodbath.Some Americans who are not pussys will stand up and stop this shit one day,mark my words.
 Quoting: FUBAR


^This^

Bring it. I'm tired of this bullshit waiting around. Once the switch is flipped, I'll drop anybody within range that doesn't have a white flag. They won't have a clue. I've taught my kids and wife: shoot for the face with lighter calibers and shotguns. 30-30 and bigger, center mass.

I'm just hoping it won't come to that. It probably won't unless you're near a big city.





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