Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Gary Hall of Wabash, Ind., believes his twin-brother Larry D. Hall, a suspected serial killer doing life in a Butner, N.C., federal psychiatric prison, has been questioned recently by investigators about Chavez and several other young women from the Midwest who disappeared or were murdered in the late 1980s to early 1990s. Gary Hall said that in July he traveled to the Federal Correctional Complex at Butner where police investigators from Indianapolis met with his brother. Gary Hall said he was not present during the questioning but was "pretty sure" that Chavez came up during the interview. It was at least the second time this year that Larry Hall, 46, a former janitor, has been questioned by police. Capt. Steve Johnson of the St. Clair County Sheriff's Department, said, "Investigator Pat Walters is in close contact with a detective from an Indiana homicide squad who has been in the process of interviewing a suspect. This suspect has given some information regarding the Summerfield murder." Johnson said he could not discuss what was said by the suspect, who he declined to name. Police attention was refocused on Larry Hall after a Playboy magazine article last year about a convicted drug dealer who agreed in 1998 to be placed in a maximum security prison for the purpose of befriending Larry Hall and enticing him to reveal where he buried Tricia Reitler of Olmstead Township, a community in Northeast Ohio. The 19-year-old disappeared in 1993 from the campus of Indiana Wesleyan University near Marion, Ind., when she took a break from writing a term paper to walk to a store for a can of root beer. Her clothes were found near the market. According to a Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper article, Larry Hall was arrested a year later at Indiana Wesleyan, where Reitler had been a student. In his van, police found rope, a mask and several newspaper articles about Reitler. The story about his arrest stated that he confessed to killing Reitler, but his confession was not believed and he was released by local police. In November 1994, he was charged with kidnapping 15-year-old Jessica Roach as she was riding her bicycle in a rural area near Georgetown, Ill., close to the Indiana border. Her decomposed remains were found in an Indiana cornfield, and Hall was arrested a few months after Roach disappeared when police near her hometown received complaints from other young girls that Larry Hall had been stalking them. Larry Hall was convicted in federal court of kidnapping that resulted in death and was given life in prison. He killed Roach by sitting her against a tree and placing two belts linked together against her throat and then stepping behind the tree and pulling on both ends. A police report states he strangled her in this manner so he would not have to look at her face as she died. At this time, according to news articles, Larry Hall was suspected of killing at least seven other young women and was the target of state and federal investigators. His confession in the Roach case contained admissions in the Reitler murder. But he was never charged and interest in him cooled until last year when the Playboy article brought national attention to the Reitler murder. However, he still has not been charged in her death. read full article here: [link to www.newsroom-sheriff.us] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! [link to caselaw.findlaw.com] The legalese of his first conviction and lawyer games, overturned, retried, etc |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! [link to maamodt.asp.radford.edu] The long list of his suspected victims, white and hispanic young women. Also a good breakdown of his pysch profile, i.e. bedwetter, speech impediment, abused by father, etc |
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Carol B. User ID: 1265827 United States 05/16/2011 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! I often wonder if across America there is a huge graveyard of all these missing persons. Tragic. Hopefully this one killer is done and can't harm anyone else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379017If I remember correctly, there are between 200-300 operating serial killers just in the U.S. Prayer.....the world's first wireless connection. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Killer may have ties to Alliance cold case Body dumped in Portage County Larry DeWayne Hall had a checklist of sorts: get van ready, put curtains in windows, check colleges, buy more condoms, buy more tarps, buy two more belts and change license plates. He also reminded himself not to leave “forensic residues” and to have “no exposed carpet.” On Oct. 9, 1994, the body of 20-year-old Kerry Ann Smith was discovered floating in the Tippecanoe River. She had been beaten, strangled and sexually mutiliated. Among the notes recovered from Hall’s van was one bearing the word, Menominee, in his handwriting. Martin points out in his book that the Menominee Public Access Area is less than one-half mile upstream from where Smith’s body was dropped from a bridge. Hall frequented re-enactment events in nearby Rochester, Martin added. According to Martin, Hall was a Civil War re-enactor who visited Civil War battle and historic sites in Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia. “These murders occurred in areas where he was known to stalk. Hall confessed that he would spend hours driving around the area of those events,” the author explained. In addition to historic locations in Carroll, Columbiana, Mahoning, Portage and Stark counties, Hartville would have been the site of a war re-enactment in August 1994, coinciding with Menendez’ disappearance. Hall also would frequent similar type festivals and encampments. For example, in 1991, according to Martin, Hall visited a Civil War Days event in Michigan and a Johnny Appleseed Festival event in Indiana. In the case of Sarah Boehm, she resided in Rochester, Pennsylvania, and disappeared a week after the Fourth of July 1994. Her body was found within a half mile of Menendez’ in November 1994. Author Martin points out that U.S. Route 224, which passes near Alliance and Berlin Reservoir, almost runs in a straight line between Rochester and Wabash, Indiana, the town Hall called his home. The murders and disappearances, which Martin also believes includes other incidents in Piqua, Cortland and even New Castle, Pennsylvania, fit Hall’s travel habits he says; however, often Hall would slightly modify his method of operation. excerpts from: [link to www.recordpub.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Thank you OP for posting this. I can remember searching for Lori years ago.... Quoting: Carol B.A note in his car said "Fox River". Seeing as he dumped the one body off of a bridge, into a river, maybe he dumped her near the fox river somewhere...is there some seasonally marshy area near the river? The investigators said in the presser that they were waiting for things to dry up to begin their search. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! A suspect in numerous unsolved murders of girls and young women, Hall dressed in the style of a 1950s greaser at one time. More recently, he participated in Civil War re-enactments and appeared as an extra in at least two films, Osborne said. "I guess you would say there was something about him that he liked to live in the past," Osborne said. Hall's attendance at the re-enactments of historic battles led authorities to suspect him in Depies' disappearance Aug. 21, 1992, days after a re-enactment in nearby Kaukauna. The suspect seemed to live at the edge of reality, sleeping part of the day in a room at his parents' house and working nights as a janitor at an area credit union, said Osborne and other local residents. Osborne, a former church organist, said Hall grew up in a house at the city cemetery and used to help his father, a cemetery caretaker, dig graves. Osborne said he ended his friendship with Hall in the mid- 1980s after the suspect was arrested in connection with an arson at an abandoned factory. But a 23-year-old woman who is Hall's second cousin said she was afraid to be alone with her relative. "He had that quiet way of looking at you, like Jeffrey Dahmer," said Jennifer Johnson, of Wabash, who attended the University of Wisconsin Eau Claire to study criminology. According to a news story in the Chronicle-Tribune, a newspaper in Marion, Ind., authorities in Wabash arrested Hall for allegedly stalking women in June and September. In other, separate incidents, the newspaper reported: {} In March, Hall's van allegedly was seen cruising slowly past teenage girls in Gas City, Ind. When police stopped the van for operating without a proper registration, they allegedly found a green ski mask, a 12-inch knife, two coils of rope, cotton balls and white gloves. They also discovered "several news articles about missing people, including (Tricia) Reitler," a 19-year-old student who disappeared a year earlier from Indiana Wesleyan University. {} Hall came to the attention of authorities again in May, when two 14-year-old girls riding bikes in Georgetown allegedly were chased by Hall in his tan van. They said they got his license number after escaping into an alley that was too narrow for the van to enter. {} A similar episode in Georgetown in October led to his arrest for attempted kidnapping. [link to www.projectjason.org] |
Carol B. User ID: 1265827 United States 05/16/2011 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Thank you OP for posting this. I can remember searching for Lori years ago.... Quoting: Carol B.A note in his car said "Fox River". Seeing as he dumped the one body off of a bridge, into a river, maybe he dumped her near the fox river somewhere...is there some seasonally marshy area near the river? The investigators said in the presser that they were waiting for things to dry up to begin their search. Yes..all along the Fox River right now is localized areas of flooding. Prayer.....the world's first wireless connection. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Thank you OP for posting this. I can remember searching for Lori years ago.... Quoting: Carol B.A note in his car said "Fox River". Seeing as he dumped the one body off of a bridge, into a river, maybe he dumped her near the fox river somewhere...is there some seasonally marshy area near the river? The investigators said in the presser that they were waiting for things to dry up to begin their search. Yes..all along the Fox River right now is localized areas of flooding. Aw geez. Okay, at first I'd thought "Fox River" was because she was followed from where he stalked her at the Fox River Mall. But yeah, it makes more sense that he'd be more interested in making his note on where he actually committed his crime and/or body disposal. Some nearby landmark to 'relive' the scenario. Creepy how last year that dude from Minnesota travelled to the same mall and pretended he was a cop and lured/threatened with arrest to get her to go with him. Thank God she wasn't also taken. My heart goes out to all the families of all the missing. I hope they finally find Lori Depies for her family's sake. No family should have to endure that hell. (wasn't there also rumors that she could have been buried in the hwy 41 construction?) |
CaptiveR User ID: 1386331 United Kingdom 05/16/2011 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! I often wonder if across America there is a huge graveyard of all these missing persons. Tragic. Hopefully this one killer is done and can't harm anyone else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379017If I remember correctly, there are between 200-300 operating serial killers just in the U.S. operating? so this is a contract thing? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! [link to www.fdlreporter.com] It says he's not currently linked to the murder of Berit Beck, however she also went missing outside of a mall in the same area 2 years before Lori Depies was taken after being followed from a mall. Same M.O.! Cute young girl, taken as she's exiting or entering her vehicle - dude trolling for women at a mall where he has his pick of young gals to stalk. |
Carol B. User ID: 1265827 United States 05/16/2011 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! [link to www.fdlreporter.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262140It says he's not currently linked to the murder of Berit Beck, however she also went missing outside of a mall in the same area 2 years before Lori Depies was taken after being followed from a mall. Same M.O.! Cute young girl, taken as she's exiting or entering her vehicle - dude trolling for women at a mall where he has his pick of young gals to stalk. I know, right! Prayer.....the world's first wireless connection. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! [link to www.wfrv.com] This news video says the note said "Fox River Mall", so there's a discrepancy there, either my bad or a reporting error on somebody's part. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Wonder if he's also linked somehow to all those murders in the LaCrosse area of young men? Drownings? Maybe he's a real perv in addition to being a nasty killer. Quoting: weegieNah. Read some criminal psychology to understand they usually go after a certain type and kill them over and over again, figuratively, with each murder. Serial killers almost always target their own race, one gender or the other but I've never heard of one who went after both genders either/or. Also this guy is small for a man, with a low IQ of only 80. A janitor. A speech impediment. Bullied in his school years. Not exactly the kind women would go for - though if he makes it to death row I'm sure he'll have many potential wives writing to him from trailer parks across America... The dude targets the pretty young girls who reject him. He mutilates their abdominal regions/i.e. sex organs, has sex with them after they're dead. That's very specific. He's fixated on harming what he can't gain on his own for his sick gratifications, then discarding them/killing them as if they didn't matter - just like he could never matter to them. Even very young teen girls may have been his victims. He went after women and girls he could physically take on. Not strapping athletic college men! The IQ that low is often linked with inability to solve problems well. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! [link to www.fdlreporter.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262140It says he's not currently linked to the murder of Berit Beck, however she also went missing outside of a mall in the same area 2 years before Lori Depies was taken after being followed from a mall. Same M.O.! Cute young girl, taken as she's exiting or entering her vehicle - dude trolling for women at a mall where he has his pick of young gals to stalk. I know, right! Trying to remember if they ever caught the killer in that case in Green Bay where the gal was dumped by the bay in the marsh on the west side. That one creeped me out big time - I was moonlighting graveyard shift at an all night restaurant near there that night and thought oh my god, that killer could have come in here right after and I could have smiled and served him a nice meal. It wasn't the Amber Wilde case, the case was way older than that one. Maybe the late 80s. I'd know the girl's name if I heard it. I don't know how long they've been having the re-enactments up here too, but if the guy was really a buff it isn't a stretch to think he wouldn't have driven the extra 20 minutes to go see the Railroad Museum in Green Bay, or just spread out his crimes like that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1276418 United States 05/16/2011 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Krueger and former DCI agent Dick McSherry traveled to Springfield, Ill., in 1995 to learn more from the FBI about Hall and the items seized from his house, vehicles and barn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262140They were shown one large storage room "filled with clothes from floor to ceiling — women's clothing, girls' clothing," Krueger said. "It was everything from undergarments to pants to shirts to shoes to purses." Despite all the items, Skorlinski, who replaced McSherry as regional homicide investigator in 1997, said authorities have not "come up with any unknown DNA to link him to any of these missing people." I wonder how many innocent, wrongly convicted boyfriends, ex-boyfriends, ex-husbands, fathers, cousins, brothers, across the country are in prison for these women's deaths. Some prosecutors probably just want to leave it alone. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/16/2011 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Krueger and former DCI agent Dick McSherry traveled to Springfield, Ill., in 1995 to learn more from the FBI about Hall and the items seized from his house, vehicles and barn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262140They were shown one large storage room "filled with clothes from floor to ceiling — women's clothing, girls' clothing," Krueger said. "It was everything from undergarments to pants to shirts to shoes to purses." Despite all the items, Skorlinski, who replaced McSherry as regional homicide investigator in 1997, said authorities have not "come up with any unknown DNA to link him to any of these missing people." I wonder how many innocent, wrongly convicted boyfriends, ex-boyfriends, ex-husbands, fathers, cousins, brothers, across the country are in prison for these women's deaths. Some prosecutors probably just want to leave it alone. Really great point! They always think the love interest holds the motive, not some sick-in-the-head random stranger from hundreds of miles away. More often than not it is the paramour who did the deed. However since there's hundreds of these freaks driving around out there it may be many more than we know. Just look at how the rumors fly around missing Holly Bobo in Tennessee. Everybody speculating about it having to be her family until another woman came forward and described a similar abduction attempt shortly preceding Holly's abduction. If the people ever fought they'll try to pin it on them... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/17/2011 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Police: Active search for Depies' body [link to www.fox11online.com] Police say they've received more than a dozen confessions from other people. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1262140 United States 05/17/2011 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! There's some talk that the killer doesn't like the fed mental hospital he's at in Carolina, and knows WI doesn't have the death penalty so he can't be killed for confessing to his wisconsin crime. Anybody knows how that works? Let's say he confesses to this murder, let's them know where to find the body, then he's brought to WI for trial and convicted and sentenced to life in prison without parole. What would happen if he then confessed to murders in states that do have the death penalty? Would they send him to those states to be tried for his crimes? If they did, and if he was sentenced to death, would that supercede a life term in WI? How does the court system deal with these fucks? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6647400 United States 12/06/2011 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! There's some talk that the killer doesn't like the fed mental hospital he's at in Carolina, and knows WI doesn't have the death penalty so he can't be killed for confessing to his wisconsin crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262140 Anybody knows how that works? Let's say he confesses to this murder, let's them know where to find the body, then he's brought to WI for trial and convicted and sentenced to life in prison without parole. What would happen if he then confessed to murders in states that do have the death penalty? Would they send him to those states to be tried for his crimes? If they did, and if he was sentenced to death, would that supercede a life term in WI? How does the court system deal with these fucks? Good question! Maybe the trial should be held in Indiana where the majority of the murders have taken place? I knew Tricia..I went to school with her & her sisters. I wish I could visit this @$$hat ...I'd get the location out of him of where he dumped my friend. |
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Zoe User ID: 7561708 United States 12/22/2011 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Anyone stop to think his brother may have helped him ? Also on this 80 IQ, it is said to be much harder to prove you are intelligent while very easy to prove you are stupid.I don't buy the 80 IQ evidently he is smart enough to keep detectives baffled. |
Zoe User ID: 7561708 United States 12/22/2011 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Breaking: Midwestern Serial Killer of 30-40 MISSING Young Women, Larry DeWayne Hall, Giving up Locations of Dead! Another thing their dad dug graves, they helped. Did the poilce bother to correlate the murders with burials taking place at that graveyard ? Wouldn't it be very easy for them to go in there dig up a fresh grave and put a body in the coffin with Mr. Jones or on top of the coffin then cover it back up ? I really believe someone helped him or at the least knew about these murders. I doubt someone with an 80 IQ would do something like this and not tell someone. What about the only male victim a friend of both the brothers ? Reckon they got drunk and said too much ? And the FBI returning all the crime evidence to the family ? WTH ? The father destroyed most of that but his brother has what's left I bet. There's two books about this Urges, Chronicles of a Serial Killer and In With The Devil by James Keene Very interesting reads. |