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Thanks for this! hf
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I have had Morg for about 4-5 years...and I have come to the conclusion that it is a TREMATODE parasitic infection, probably a genetically altered parasite.. and possibly a trematode that ALSO harbors a protozoan. Diabolic, no? So the key for me is a regimen that KILLS trematodes, in all their stages of development.

Trematodes often have a life cycle that includes either fresh water or salt water snails leaving eggs behind on plants that are consumed or touched by hosts... so that is why morgellons is often associated with people who live near water.

Trematodes have about 5 different stages of development in the bloodstream, intestines, liver, nasal cavities and or lungs--- which could account for the many different symptoms.

YOU HAVE TO ATTACK ALL PHASES OF THE TREMATODE...!!

Parasites also typically can create exhaustion in their victims as they emit chemicals that put the immune system on overdrive.

I tried lots of topicals on my lesions, which originated in the follicles of my forearms and scalp-- nothing worked...and I realized that this infection is systemic, part of it is in the blood, and part in the hair follicles... and must be treated INTERNALLY.

MY PERSONAL MORG PROTOCOL
Here's my personal treatment regime(I AM NOT A DOCTOR AND THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE), based on Dr. Hulda Clark's regimen-- which HAS cleared up almost all of my unsightly lesions on my arms, and is slowly reducing lesions on my scalp:

1) ARTEMISIA ANNUA 200 milligrams. Kills adult parasites and larvae. Artemisia Annua is an anti parasitic herb that has been used for a long time in treating malaria, protozoans and other parasites. It definitely works for me-- within a few days the lesions on my forearms are gone, although I believe that is has increased my ocular pressure... so I pulse my dose. (Nutribiotic Grapefruit seed extract has 200 mg of artemisia annua in it and this is what I take)

2) BLACK WALNUT HULL TINCTURE (30 drops twice daily)--- Kills adult parasites and larvae... This is also a major antiparasitic with anti fungal and insecticidal properties.. Black walnut trees have very few plants and insects around them... this is because the nut protects the tree from insects and fungus...!

3) Immune Formula Kyolic Garlic 103--- (with immunity mushrooms) I take two per day.

4) FRESH GROUND CLOVES DAILY -- Kills parasite eggs in the intestine... I grind about two tablespoons and drink them in milk or water. They MUST be fresh ground to kill intestinal eggs, according to Hulda Clark.

5) A tablespoon of toasted Pumpkin seeds-- kills parasites in the instestines.

6) Two or three drops of clove oil and black walnut extract in my nasal spray-- kills larvae and tiny eggs in the nasal cavity so they can't be swallowed from the sinuses into the intestine where they breed.

7) A multivitamin and LOTS of vitamin C--- 2-3 grams.

8) I ramp up my treatment during the week of the full moon, which is when TREMATODES and other parasites typically tend to breed and get more active... Bizarre but true...

I plan to keep up with this treatment for about a year... these things are very resilient and need to be assaulted on multiple fronts! I may up my dosages to the levels recommended by Dr. Hulda Clark.. (right now Im taking less than Dr. Hulda Clark recommends..)
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Here's what I found about it in today's news. I am skeptical about their findings.


(Health.com) -- For years, dermatologists have been aware of -- and baffled by -- people who feel a constant creepy-crawly sensation beneath their skin, which they believe is due to bugs, worms, or eggs below the surface.
Now, in the largest study to date to examine skin samples from patients with these symptoms, doctors have firm proof that these infestations -- known as delusional parasitosis or delusional infestation -- are not real.

Along with a group of sympathetic doctors and advocates, these patients have pushed for the condition to be officially recognized as Morgellons disease, and have lobbied -- successfully -- for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to investigate it.

However, most doctors maintain that the condition is psychological rather than physical.

"It may irritate those who cannot accept the diagnosis of delusional infestation," he says. "But the study shows that delusional infestation exists and that it is the patients who are wrong."
[link to www.cnn.com]

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There have been quite a few threads concerning Morgellon's lesions. No matter what the docs say, this nefarious disease is NOT DELUSIONAL! The doctors are delusional. You can't fake it, nor bring it on with thought. It starts as an itch, then as you scratch, it spreads like wildfire. It's called the "itch from hell", which drives you up a wall. And, yes, they are a bio-engineered form of nematode.

The solution is to research what the hell it is. A poster thought it might be some type of nematode that comes from cotton clothing manufactured in Asia. One doctor found, under a microscope, they are tubes. A search provided me with a description of a nematode, which is a tube within a tube, the outer shell is made of protein. Protein can be digested with powerful enzymes, which is what I used to put on the lesions, and take them internally. Bathing in enzyms added to the water has been helpful for some.

The lesions started on my right wrist and spread nearly to my armpit. Got rid of them with the enzymes. Later, they started on the left wrist. I knew what to do...apply the enzymes before the lesions spread. Haven't had an attack since. To relieve itching, Benadryl spray is most beneficial.

The first clue came from a GLP poster:

"...Molecular computers made of living matter can be grown from DNA templates of GENETICALLY ENGINEERED BACTERIA. Synthetic proteins have been developed which match what they want to make into mini-computers. The end product is a bioprocessor (tiny computer) within a cell.

These mini-computers are specifically linked with viruses which migrate to SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE BODY. Viruses are primarily nucleoproteins, some of the small ones are not even alive, and they don´t even have metabolism. They do not have a metabolism to kill with an antibiotic. The Neurotropic viruses migrate to the central nervous system (nerves), the Dermotropic viruses migrate to the skin, the Pneumotropic viruses go to the lungs, the Viscerotropic go to the abdomen, and other viruses go to other sites in the body."

Hope this helps to understand the attacks.
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The name "nematode" comes from the Greek words: nema, which means "thread", and toid, which means "form". Nematodes are usually vermiform, long and slender, but some species are swollen. Most people know them as roundworms because their cross-section is round. They range in size from .08mm to 7m. Nematodes are a TUBE WITHIN A TUBE.

One of the tricks of an invading organism is to wrap itself in a large protein shell that the body would view as being "normal". Large amounts of protease can help to remove this protein shell, and allow the body's defense mechanisms can go into action. With the protective barrier down, your immune system can step in and destroy the invading organism.

Interesting this!

Confrimed nematode structures in chemtrails!

CHEMTRAIL FIBERS FOUND TO CONTAIN NEMATODE EGGS
Morgellons researchers Hildegarde Staninger PhD and Dr. Rahim Karjoom have discovered parasitic nematode eggs of some type encased in the chemtrail fibers. The Chemtrail fibers bear an uncanny resemblance to the fibers Morgellons victims find coming out of their lesions. ...

[link to imageevent.com]
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you will find a super article on www.viewzone.com about the morgellons and its origins.
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Personally, I think that the emphasis on morgellons as nanotechnology is a military PSY OP... designed to distract America from the real cause of the outbreak --- a genetically engineered TREMATODE parasite created-- and then covered up--- by the bioweapons military industrial complex...

Parasites are a common fact of life throughout much of the world...and they often have five or more different phases to their lifecycle...make it seem like several diseases...

They can also be used to deliver other organisms into the body... so they are PERFECT biological weapons...for BINARY BIOWARFARE--- which is plausibly deniable and therefore allows the perps to get away with mass murder.

Its a FACT that the Rockefeller Institute and the Rothschild family have long studied parasites as biological weapons..


Pressure is being applied to the US medical community from TPTB to "look the other way" or to "blame the victim.." while the perpetrators slink away...

Nanotech is being wildly put out there as a red herring--- to distract from the real cause... a biologically engineered parasite TREMATODE...researched and tweaked probably by scientists at Fort Detrick and the Rockefeller Institute..


Classic military psy op... with victims blamed, and then left in the trash can...

Unlike the Military or the Rockefellers... I did not spend billions on researching new modes of disabling weapons and death.... through resroucefulness and logic, I found a cure for myself.... ARTEMISIA ANNUA/BLACK WALNUT HULL TINCTURE AND CLOVES.
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The name "nematode" comes from the Greek words: nema, which means "thread", and toid, which means "form". Nematodes are usually vermiform, long and slender, but some species are swollen. Most people know them as roundworms because their cross-section is round. They range in size from .08mm to 7m. Nematodes are a TUBE WITHIN A TUBE.

One of the tricks of an invading organism is to wrap itself in a large protein shell that the body would view as being "normal". Large amounts of protease can help to remove this protein shell, and allow the body's defense mechanisms can go into action. With the protective barrier down, your immune system can step in and destroy the invading organism.

Interesting this!

Confrimed nematode structures in chemtrails!

CHEMTRAIL FIBERS FOUND TO CONTAIN NEMATODE EGGS
Morgellons researchers Hildegarde Staninger PhD and Dr. Rahim Karjoom have discovered parasitic nematode eggs of some type encased in the chemtrail fibers. The Chemtrail fibers bear an uncanny resemblance to the fibers Morgellons victims find coming out of their lesions. ...

[link to imageevent.com]
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Thanks--- you're right about the protease, a digestive enzyme... I forgot to mention that I also take DIGESTIVE ENZYMES as a part of my protocol.
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I have heard of a woman taking a bath with Sun dishwashing detergent and alfalfa tablets in the water. She said the fibers came out.

You might google it. There is a Morgellons blog site that talks about it and other things about Morgellons. I forgot the name of it tho. I used to subscribe to it. If I find it, I will post the name.
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I've never read of anyone trying the Sun detergent and Alfalfa tables and saying it didn't work. I'd definitely try it if I had it.
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Just discovered today that my son has it, I have watched him pull the fibres from his body. We started doing a little research and it seems to be a classic case.

So can anyone enlighten us further? Anyone here have it?
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My mom has it. She was one of the first cases here in CA years ago. She went to 14 doctors in 3 years and they all looked at her like she was crazy. She took bags of fibers and they all laughed and offered her psychotropic meds and benzo's. Finally after 3 years she took matters into her own hands and began using a soap she read about. I don't know the name of it off the top of my head, keep 'em away or something like that. Anyway, fast forward about 15 plus years and as long as she uses the soap she is fine.

She itched horribly. The sores and fibers were the worst. Actually, being told it was all in her head was the worst. My son itches a lot now too. He says it feels like something is crawling under his skin. I haven't noticed fibers on him yet but it's likely he has it now too.

I can find out the name of the soap if you'd like. There are actually a lot of good support groups out there now. The medical community is also now starting to acknowledge the little nanobugs. Studies have found the fibers don't match any fiber on our planet.

It really is a horrible feeling.

Good luck, I hope your son feels better and finds some relief. The support groups that are out there will also provide you with good info that people have used for relief. Personally, I don't know if there is a *cure*, I only know my moms experience and she gave up on the doctors after 3 years of being told it was in her head so maybe there is now a medicine, I don't know. I only know the soap was the only thing that gave her any relief at all.
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Personally, I think that the emphasis on morgellons as nanotechnology is a military PSY OP... designed to distract America from the real cause of the outbreak --- a genetically engineered TREMATODE parasite created-- and then covered up--- by the bioweapons military industrial complex...

Parasites are a common fact of life throughout much of the world...and they often have five or more different phases to their lifecycle...make it seem like several diseases...

They can also be used to deliver other organisms into the body... so they are PERFECT biological weapons...for BINARY BIOWARFARE--- which is plausibly deniable and therefore allows the perps to get away with mass murder.

Its a FACT that the Rockefeller Institute and the Rothschild family have long studied parasites as biological weapons..


Pressure is being applied to the US medical community from TPTB to "look the other way" or to "blame the victim.." while the perpetrators slink away...

Nanotech is being wildly put out there as a red herring--- to distract from the real cause... a biologically engineered parasite TREMATODE...researched and tweaked probably by scientists at Fort Detrick and the Rockefeller Institute..


Classic military psy op... with victims blamed, and then left in the trash can...

Unlike the Military or the Rockefellers... I did not spend billions on researching new modes of disabling weapons and death.... through resroucefulness and logic, I found a cure for myself.... ARTEMISIA ANNUA/BLACK WALNUT HULL TINCTURE AND CLOVES.
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Hello,
What about the fibers that don't burn until they're at 1700 degrees Farenheit? Would a trematode component do that? Would a trematode have ribbon-like blue, red and other color fibers?
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Personally, I think that the emphasis on morgellons as nanotechnology is a military PSY OP... designed to distract America from the real cause of the outbreak --- a genetically engineered TREMATODE parasite created-- and then covered up--- by the bioweapons military industrial complex...

Parasites are a common fact of life throughout much of the world...and they often have five or more different phases to their lifecycle...make it seem like several diseases...

They can also be used to deliver other organisms into the body... so they are PERFECT biological weapons...for BINARY BIOWARFARE--- which is plausibly deniable and therefore allows the perps to get away with mass murder.

Its a FACT that the Rockefeller Institute and the Rothschild family have long studied parasites as biological weapons..


Pressure is being applied to the US medical community from TPTB to "look the other way" or to "blame the victim.." while the perpetrators slink away...

Nanotech is being wildly put out there as a red herring--- to distract from the real cause... a biologically engineered parasite TREMATODE...researched and tweaked probably by scientists at Fort Detrick and the Rockefeller Institute..


Classic military psy op... with victims blamed, and then left in the trash can...

Unlike the Military or the Rockefellers... I did not spend billions on researching new modes of disabling weapons and death.... through resroucefulness and logic, I found a cure for myself.... ARTEMISIA ANNUA/BLACK WALNUT HULL TINCTURE AND CLOVES.
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I can't see Morgellans as a weapon, but I can see it as a way to thin the herd.
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Personally, I think that the emphasis on morgellons as nanotechnology is a military PSY OP... designed to distract America from the real cause of the outbreak --- a genetically engineered TREMATODE parasite created-- and then covered up--- by the bioweapons military industrial complex...

Parasites are a common fact of life throughout much of the world...and they often have five or more different phases to their lifecycle...make it seem like several diseases...

They can also be used to deliver other organisms into the body... so they are PERFECT biological weapons...for BINARY BIOWARFARE--- which is plausibly deniable and therefore allows the perps to get away with mass murder.

Its a FACT that the Rockefeller Institute and the Rothschild family have long studied parasites as biological weapons..


Pressure is being applied to the US medical community from TPTB to "look the other way" or to "blame the victim.." while the perpetrators slink away...

Nanotech is being wildly put out there as a red herring--- to distract from the real cause... a biologically engineered parasite TREMATODE...researched and tweaked probably by scientists at Fort Detrick and the Rockefeller Institute..


Classic military psy op... with victims blamed, and then left in the trash can...

Unlike the Military or the Rockefellers... I did not spend billions on researching new modes of disabling weapons and death.... through resroucefulness and logic, I found a cure for myself.... ARTEMISIA ANNUA/BLACK WALNUT HULL TINCTURE AND CLOVES.
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Hello,
What about the fibers that don't burn until they're at 1700 degrees Farenheit? Would a trematode component do that? Would a trematode have ribbon-like blue, red and other color fibers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1188144


I have red and black fibers (visible at 200 magnification) in my lesions... but when I take 200 milligrams of artemisia annua.. the open lesions clear up within a few days.. so there is obviously a biological component to this illness, since a known parasiticide (artemisia annua) clears my lesions...... What's important is not to get too emotionally involved in ANY ONE EXPLANATION...until we start seeing many people cured by a specific protocol... I will believe what ever WORKS to CLEAR UP MY ILLNESS.

Also, if the military was involved... they are going to put out a lot of red herrings in the alternative press... so we need to be aware of that possibility... and not fight among ourselves... this is also a tactic to get the community divided and or distracted in endless rabbit holes. Ive seen this up front in Lyme disease communities..
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Have something similar to M., look like transparant digitally segmented thin nanothreads, able to float in the air and exert force if they e.g. land up in your hair. They bite through the hair or make a fold in it, which one can't replicate if you tried. Also attack the eyes, make them sting and these black strands start appearing in and on the outside of your eyes, no joke, quite alarming.
Hold a flame near it and it immediately burns up like celluloid, but tries to get away from the flame.
MMS helps get rid of them. They're mostly situated right under the skin, but are able to stand out as a pin, dead straight from the fingertops or nails.They undermine the nails aswell, caught them in the act.
I suspect their origin may lie in an unseen, demonic,etheric dimension, the way they sometimes manifest out of the blue.
I believe our physical existence is somehow merging with a "higher" realm, just above the physical and we're starting to experience lifeforms from that region.
There are also these invisible spiderwebs spanning a livingroom, never see a spider and finally there appear to manifest these intensely black flies and now recently a pitchblack spider, never seen those before. Also a lot of black mold in the bathroom, connected to the open air via a ventilationshaft on to the roof. Suspect it originates from airplane soot, that is around everywhere, chemtrail like substance ?
I once witnessed such a transparant fibre bite its way through some synthetic fibre, how is that possible, unless the energy behind is from what I would call another dimension.
So I'm battling my own war of the worlds with nasty creepy crawlies from another realm, which I intend to win in due course ! Hope you will too !
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Thanks to everyone who has replied so far, you have provided some good information. As far as the delusional diagnosis goes - well anyone who is close to a sufferer like myself must also be delusional as I have seen these fibres coming out of my son's skin with my own eyes. Anyway, we are just starting our investigation into causes and treatments so there's a lot he'll be trying. Al input is greatfully received.

Cheers hf
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My best guess is it's some sort of weaponized fungus that got out by accident and nobody wants to admit what it actually is.
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This has got to be a joke!!

[link to www.thirdage.com]

I have watched with my own eyes as my son pulls these fibres from his body! If it's imaginary as these doctors are saying, then it must be catching because I must be imagining what I've seen!
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This has got to be a joke!!

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I have watched with my own eyes as my son pulls these fibres from his body! If it's imaginary as these doctors are saying, then it must be catching because I must be imagining what I've seen!
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Disregard and ignore the delusional diagnosis' - the doctors lie just so they can keep working. If they help you or agree with you, they lose their license to practice medicine. So, you'll have to figure it out on your own.
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This has got to be a joke!!

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I have watched with my own eyes as my son pulls these fibres from his body! If it's imaginary as these doctors are saying, then it must be catching because I must be imagining what I've seen!
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Disregard and ignore the delusional diagnosis' - the doctors lie just so they can keep working. If they help you or agree with you, they lose their license to practice medicine. So, you'll have to figure it out on your own.
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Thanks and I do! Medico's are either tunnel visioned or they're bought, very few are open minded but there are some! When I told my doctor about it her eyes widened and she said that she hadn't heard about it but then proceeded to tell me about one of here friends that she sent to the top dermatologists as she was get legions and out of them she was exuding crystals. It has everyone who knows about it here stumped!
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Yes ever since I was 5 years old. I can remember some of them ,I have had them all my life, My daughter used to buy not much anymore, we did have a strande triange taken out of her back, liked kie a piece of glass but seemed like plastic, the doctor throw it away.
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Hmmmm..........It would be interesting to do a survey to see just how common this connections is! I have had them all my life as well and so have both my kids. BTW they are both adults.
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Hi, i have morgies,as well. how many years have you had it? Are you extremly tired all the time ?
Brissy girl here.
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I have had this for many years. I am 62 yrs old. Dr after Dr pasted me around like a little pig. After yrs of skin problems I went to Sea Salt liq bath soap. Bought a local store. Green light color. 2 to 3 days cleared up totally. Please try this so you guys will not have marks all over your body.
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Yes ever since I was 5 years old. I can remember some of them ,I have had them all my life, My daughter used to buy not much anymore, we did have a strande triange taken out of her back, liked kie a piece of glass but seemed like plastic, the doctor throw it away.
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Hmmmm..........It would be interesting to do a survey to see just how common this connections is! I have had them all my life as well and so have both my kids. BTW they are both adults.
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Hi, i have morgies,as well. how many years have you had it? Are you extremly tired all the time ?
Brissy girl here.
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My son has it and it's common for him to sleep for more than 24 hours!
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I have had this for many years. I am 62 yrs old. Dr after Dr pasted me around like a little pig. After yrs of skin problems I went to Sea Salt liq bath soap. Bought a local store. Green light color. 2 to 3 days cleared up totally. Please try this so you guys will not have marks all over your body.
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Thanks for the advice!
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I saw something about this long ago and needing to use Vaseline or silver something to kill it
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I saw something about this long ago and needing to use Vaseline or silver something to kill it
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We are going to try the silver as we have a colloidal silver machine. Thanks for the idea! hf
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