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[PIN] Alert!! How Elenin causes earthquake - 138x Tidal Force in late Sep than Mar 11!!!

 
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Right,.. Every object orbiting the Sun, regardless of its size, has a cause and effect. Denying that fact would like ignoring the fact that a single grain of sand displaces space time.
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duh
and not only physical
that's astrology for ya
but we knew that, let's move on to op's "wilder" claims
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What was stated has no connection with mythological astrology, this is pure fact. In the past science was to focused on large things when in fact it is the smaller seeming intangibles that have the greatest effect on all things. It is the patterns of small moments in the background chaos that give clue to events of a grander magnitude.

This comet will not have any major effect on the orbital mechanics or gravitational influences in or out of stellar. Though the eccentricity and timing of it could be an indicator/pre-cursor to a larger event unfolding. So keep a close eye on other activities without too much focus on this singularity.
 Quoting: Observer 1388130


The butterfly effect... Space isn't empty, it's fluid in motion!
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good discussion :)
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on other activities without too much focus on this singularity.
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The butterfly effect... Space isn't empty, it's fluid in motion!


You posses a rare and beautiful mind.
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duh
and not only physical
that's astrology for ya
but we knew that, let's move on to op's "wilder" claims
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What was stated has no connection with mythological astrology, this is pure fact. In the past science was to focused on large things when in fact it is the smaller seeming intangibles that have the greatest effect on all things. It is the patterns of small moments in the background chaos that give clue to events of a grander magnitude.

This comet will not have any major effect on the orbital mechanics or gravitational influences in or out of stellar. Though the eccentricity and timing of it could be an indicator/pre-cursor to a larger event unfolding. So keep a close eye on other activities without too much focus on this singularity.
 Quoting: Observer 1388130


The butterfly effect... Space isn't empty, it's fluid in motion!
 Quoting: Antares

good discussion :)
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hf
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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Nope...never!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


At least you're honest, but it will put the nail in the coffin of this nonsense whether you admit it or not.
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The butterfly effect... Space isn't empty, it's fluid in motion!
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You posses a rare and beautiful mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1388130


Thank you, usually I'm seen as being delusional.. hahaha

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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Could you please keep us posted on that occasion?
 Quoting: Yddap


Oh, don't worry, I will. Come hell or high water I'll find a way to get an image of it on or after friday to show it's still where it should be and intact.
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The Sun is too large to be effected by small bodies. The Sun is effected by larger things like galaxies, dust fields, and stellar planes. Only when up close can small bodies effect it.

For something to effect the Sun it must be a large or dense/medium large entity. jmo
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"I'm not aware of any public-accepted scientific theory on the correlation between planetary alignment and earthquakes, "


I think I have a link for you:

[link to sites.google.com]

"Empirical proof (2011) of the georesonator concept (the Earth thought of as a forced mechanical oscillator) is now available as a preprint. Strong (~M6+) seismicity on Earth occurs due to magnification of Earth masses' (mostly the mantle's) resonance during the Earth's long (>3 days) astronomical alignments with astronomical objects in our solar system. The concept is akin to a bridge eventually collapsing due to soldiers step-marching across it. Thus earthquake precursors such as atmospheric or Sun activity ones are not due to some mysterious "outgoing radiation", but are a part of the same outer forcing that acts naturally along the forcing towards the Earth. (NOTE ON C/2010X1-ELENIN: the main reason why it is included here with planets (in addition to the fact it drags gravitationally locked particles spanning 30k+ km) is because it is non-periodic (thus making an apparently static approach and therefore partaking in long alignments), and its trajectory is coplanar to our solar system. Other such comets have forbidding inclinations: their trajectories lie outside our solar system's plane so those comets never align with planets.)"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1342056


You can see that I already quoted Dr. Omerbashich's inspiring paper "Astronomical alignment as the cause of M6+ seismicity" several times. He only present the facts without explaining the mechanism in the paper.

I didn't find any scientific reference on his catchy term "hyperresonator". Now you show his web page, and I finally see it, hmmm....

the "Newtonian gravitational constant", G. Gravitation, and not physics, is scalable along a scale, s, so that: G = s e^2, thus disproving both Einstein's and Planck's assumptions on modifiable physics along largest and smallest scales respectively


I must say that I don't like his theory, and he must try VERY VERY HARD to persuade others. lolsign
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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Could you please keep us posted on that occasion?
 Quoting: Yddap


Oh, don't worry, I will. Come hell or high water I'll find a way to get an image of it on or after friday to show it's still where it should be and intact.
 Quoting: Astronut


determination beforehand is never scientifically good ;)
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The Sun is too large to be effected by small bodies. The Sun is effected by larger things like galaxies, dust fields, and stellar planes. Only when up close can small bodies effect it.

For something to effect the Sun it must be a large or dense/medium large entity. jmo
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Actually, I think sunspots are caused by the planets. It's cyclical just like their orbital patterns!
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Off the topic OP
Whatever happened to teacher Wang?
What news of him?
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yes if elenins iron core is as heavy as it should be its true. but there is no choice. we have all to wait and see.

even nasa....

even astroshit....
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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Nope...never! chuckle

Well, maybe; but you're fun to pick on! :)
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Back up just a minute...are you saying we are supposed to see something FRIDAY to confirm or deny what the OP is saying here?! You better expound on this before you get accused to spreading rumors!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The comet's going to pass a hundred times closer to this asteroid than it will to earth, and it will also pelt the asteroid directly with its tail (which also means the comet will be between the asteroid and the sun). If the OP is right and that kind of alignment at that close of a distance is something to worry about, this asteroid's position should be perturbed and perhaps it should even break up altogether. Instead it's going to be mighty uneventful.

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The Sun is too large to be effected by small bodies. The Sun is effected by larger things like galaxies, dust fields, and stellar planes. Only when up close can small bodies effect it.

For something to effect the Sun it must be a large or dense/medium large entity. jmo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 997861


Actually, I think sunspots are caused by the planets. It's cyclical just like their orbital patterns!
 Quoting: Antares


What events unfold to cause solar max/min period???
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What causes magnetic switches Jupiter and the sun? Timed in a pattern/// There is a pattern, what are the contributors to this pattern???
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Looking at JPL it's a shame we cannot compare the influence on another planet before it gets to us. Should be possible to see any EQs happening on ie. Mercury, but it looks like we're next in line...
 Quoting: Yddap


Good question! hf

I am only aware that all planets are undergoing some type of "global warming" due to unusual Solar activities. I'll try to find out if there are any similar earthquakes on Mars with planetary alignments.
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And beyond minor planetary interactions lay a deeply mysterious force that influences gravitational ponds, beneath the electron level. Interactions change, not necessarily become stronger.
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Could you elaborate it?
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The Sun is too large to be effected by small bodies. The Sun is effected by larger things like galaxies, dust fields, and stellar planes. Only when up close can small bodies effect it.

For something to effect the Sun it must be a large or dense/medium large entity. jmo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 997861


Actually, I think sunspots are caused by the planets. It's cyclical just like their orbital patterns!
 Quoting: Antares


What events unfold to cause solar max/min period???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1388130


Angular momentum... Each planet has a different rotational axis, which matches their gravity field axis.. Earth's axis is tilted at 23 degrees, so is it's gravity field. Keep in mind that this is just a theory!

Jupiter completes one orbit every 12 years, in conjunction with the solar max/min.

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OP, did you check to see if the same held true for the Haiti earthquake??
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Sorry my Acrobat is not working now :-(. You can check Omerbashich's paper by yourself, it's included in the paper I think. [link to arxiv.org]

However, I don't think we can find strong correlation for all M7 earthquakes. The correlation becomes clear for M8+.
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Question ? You seem very Knowlegable.


Could the earth at one time had a water expanse that existed above the earth. Is that pysically possible.

the holy Bible indicates that there was a water expance above the earth.

this fell during the deluge or flood.

in fact the word deluge means to flood or fall

Any thoughts
 Quoting: revealerofsecrets


Wow... I don't know that. I don't know what will happen in Sep 25-28. I only know the tidal force on Sun is >100 times than Mar 11.
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And beyond minor planetary interactions lay a deeply mysterious force that influences gravitational ponds, beneath the electron level. Interactions change, not necessarily become stronger.
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Could you elaborate it?
 Quoting: Geophysical Events


hmmm, not really, but I can leave you with a very simple analogy. What is the effect on human muscle when electrical energy is turned up or down?

Contraction and expansion right! Similar to heat on varying object, Contraction and expansion. Certain magnets loose heavy gravitation influence as they near 0 Kelvin (same temperature as space).


That all I will say for now, cause and effect primarily contributed at the subatomic level.
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Theoretically, we can calculate the intruder's mass by checking the perturbation of the orbits of other planets.
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Elenin's mass is so low, it won't even detectably perturb asteroids it passes only 0.002 AUs from. May 20th, Friday, asteroid 1999 RQ176 will be only 338,403 km from Elenin and will pass through its tail. Even so, any gravitational perturbation will be below our ability to detect, meaning Elenin's mass must be very low compared to a planet.
[link to spaceobs.org]
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Great Found! Let's see on May 20th.

Actually, if Elenin is really that heavy, the asteroid within Roche Limit will be disintegrated by tidal force.


Thanks
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When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Nope...never! chuckle

Well, maybe; but you're fun to pick on! :)
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Back up just a minute...are you saying we are supposed to see something FRIDAY to confirm or deny what the OP is saying here?! You better expound on this before you get accused to spreading rumors!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The comet's going to pass a hundred times closer to this asteroid than it will to earth, and it will also pelt the asteroid directly with its tail (which also means the comet will be between the asteroid and the sun). If the OP is right and that kind of alignment at that close of a distance is something to worry about, this asteroid's position should be perturbed and perhaps it should even break up altogether. Instead it's going to be mighty uneventful.
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Well, I will apologize to you if that asteroid is unperturbed come Saturday (this date is looking more and more interesting lately...hehe). BUT if it IS perturbed then we expect you to come here and admit YOU were wrong! Your apology and admission of guilt would go a long way to prove you are not on the government's payroll to debunk every last one of these discussions.

Also, if it IS moved out of it's place, we would appreciate your NOT coming here and giving us some bogus patent government answer or explanation to minimize the impact of this event. Some of us are grown-ups here and want the truth if, for no other reason, to have a little more time to give our children some last minute happy memories (i.e., we would take our kids on an elaborate, fun family trip with the money we have saved for our retirement! just sayin')

I hope this is a non-event, but if it is please man-up and do us that favor...no double-talk! ~ Thanks!
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==> In Sep 25-28, Elenin's tidal force on Sun will be (3.1/0.6)^3 ~= 138 TIMES compared to Mar 11, 2011!

If it's true, Hollywood disaster movies look like picnic.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events

People are going to be awfully disappointed when it doesn't happen. I'm sure those responsible though will be given a completely clean slate and absolute credibility for the next doom date though...
 Quoting: Astronut


Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something! GREAT JOB and thanks for the info!!!

If anyone is more prepared for what is coming it will be NO THANKS to our governments or the people they pay to keep this under-wraps! It will be thanks to people like you who actually think for yourself (right or wrong) and put the info out there for others to do the same!

clappa
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Thank you. I read a lot of your posts before. However, I hope Astronut can eventually debunk this AGAIN.
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Off topic, but somehow seems relevant...

An old theory of mine that I've been working on... Though it seems to be grasping at straws, nonetheless, it's a workable theory.

"First thing to understand is; all measurements of time are calculated by our perception of "earth time". Universal time is unknown, due to not knowing when it started.
Secondly, this is only a theory!!

Based on Earth time, the previous calculations of planetary orbits have given a general aging equation of all nine known planets. In Earth time, Sol has a rotational period of 25 Earth days; this is the amount of time it takes for Sol to rotate around itself. It's determined as a year due to Sol being the center point.

This time period is a Solar year.

Sol- 1r/ 25.4=1Sy

o- Orbital Period (days to orbit)
Pr- Planetary Rotation
Sy- Solar Year (25.4 days)
S/P ra- Sol/Planet Ratio

I have calculated the S/P ratio for each of the nine known planets, as well as their ages in relation to how many rotations Sol has completed.

Sol and Mercury have a ratio of 3.5:1 Sol rotates 3.5 times for every 1 Mercury orbit. With this ratio, Mercury ages 3.5 Solar years with every orbit.

Mercury
o= 87.6= 1Pr o x Sy= 3.5 ra= 3.5:1

The proposed aging sequence of Mercury would be 3.5 years per planetary orbit.

Venus; 9 years per orbit
o= 226.3= 1Pr o x Sy= 9.04 ra= 9:1

Earth; 14 years per orbit
o= 365= 1Pr o x Sy= 14.6 ra=14:1

Mars; 15 years per orbit
o= 375.9= 1Pr o x Sy= 15.04 ra= 15:1

Jupiter; 174 years per orbit
o= 4343.5= 1Pr o x Sy= 173.7 ra= 174:1

Saturn; 429 years per orbit
o= 10731= 1Pr o x Sy= 429 ra= 429:1

Uranus; 1222 years per orbit
o= 30550.5= 1Pr o x Sy= 1222 ra= 1222:1

Neptune; 2390 years per orbit
o= 59750.5= 1Pr o x Sy= 2390 ra= 2390:1

Pluto/Charon; 3621 years per orbit
o= 90520= 1Pr o x Sy= 3621:1

**Notice that Pluto/Charon have an orbital period of 3621 Solar years!**

We age 14.6 Solar years for every Earth year. How old are you??"
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Off topic, but somehow seems relevant...

An old theory of mine that I've been working on... Though it seems to be grasping at straws, nonetheless, it's a workable theory.

"First thing to understand is; all measurements of time are calculated by our perception of "earth time". Universal time is unknown, due to not knowing when it started.
Secondly, this is only a theory!!

Based on Earth time, the previous calculations of planetary orbits have given a general aging equation of all nine known planets. In Earth time, Sol has a rotational period of 25 Earth days; this is the amount of time it takes for Sol to rotate around itself. It's determined as a year due to Sol being the center point.

This time period is a Solar year.

Sol- 1r/ 25.4=1Sy

o- Orbital Period (days to orbit)
Pr- Planetary Rotation
Sy- Solar Year (25.4 days)
S/P ra- Sol/Planet Ratio

I have calculated the S/P ratio for each of the nine known planets, as well as their ages in relation to how many rotations Sol has completed.

Sol and Mercury have a ratio of 3.5:1 Sol rotates 3.5 times for every 1 Mercury orbit. With this ratio, Mercury ages 3.5 Solar years with every orbit.

Mercury
o= 87.6= 1Pr o x Sy= 3.5 ra= 3.5:1

The proposed aging sequence of Mercury would be 3.5 years per planetary orbit.

Venus; 9 years per orbit
o= 226.3= 1Pr o x Sy= 9.04 ra= 9:1

Earth; 14 years per orbit
o= 365= 1Pr o x Sy= 14.6 ra=14:1

Mars; 15 years per orbit
o= 375.9= 1Pr o x Sy= 15.04 ra= 15:1

Jupiter; 174 years per orbit
o= 4343.5= 1Pr o x Sy= 173.7 ra= 174:1

Saturn; 429 years per orbit
o= 10731= 1Pr o x Sy= 429 ra= 429:1

Uranus; 1222 years per orbit
o= 30550.5= 1Pr o x Sy= 1222 ra= 1222:1

Neptune; 2390 years per orbit
o= 59750.5= 1Pr o x Sy= 2390 ra= 2390:1

Pluto/Charon; 3621 years per orbit
o= 90520= 1Pr o x Sy= 3621:1

**Notice that Pluto/Charon have an orbital period of 3621 Solar years!**

We age 14.6 Solar years for every Earth year. How old are you??"

 Quoting: Antares


And what is the orbital period for Sedna and Quaor?

Great work by the way and no, you are so not delusional. dont ever think that for a moment.

Is it a coincidence that Jupiter is in sync with Sol Min/Max? Outside of Our heliosphere what other events are synchronized with this?
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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Yes, let's see. I hope you are right. This event on Fri can verify whether Elenin has strong gravitational field. (If Elenin doesn't, it still may have strong electromagnetic field. But it would be TRICKY to analyze)

But can we observe those two objects (Elenin / RQ176) directly on the sky with civilian telescopes or just read from official source?

If we want to overthrown the fact that 3 M8+ EQs in the past 2 years are very likely to be induced by Elenin, we need solid evidence to prove the Elenin is harmless.
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So is Paraguay the safe zone? Bush hid so much financial doom, he must have known something.

Will Elenin crush our water supplies too?

[link to www.counterpunch.org]
 Quoting: pie


Let's see if the elites will move in Sep.

I don't know if Elenin is the wormwood, red dragon, etc.
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Hey OP, the fact that you flushed out Astronut (whose job is to report to every serious Elenin thread and debunk) and ^THIS^ is the best he could do means you must be on to something!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


When Friday comes and goes and 1999 RQ176 is still intact and unperturbed, what will you say for yourself then? Will you admit I was right and apologize to me?
 Quoting: Astronut


Yes, let's see. I hope you are right. This event on Fri can verify whether Elenin has strong gravitational field. (If Elenin doesn't, it still may have strong electromagnetic field. But it would be TRICKY to analyze)

But can we observe those two objects (Elenin / RQ176) directly on the sky with civilian telescopes or just read from official source?

If we want to overthrown the fact that 3 M8+ EQs in the past 2 years are very likely to be induced by Elenin, we need solid evidence to prove the Elenin is harmless.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events


lets wait for friday
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Re: [PIN] Alert!! How Elenin causes earthquake - 138x Tidal Force in late Sep than Mar 11!!!
Theoretically, we can calculate the intruder's mass by checking the perturbation of the orbits of other planets.
 Quoting: Geophysical Events


Elenin's mass is so low, it won't even detectably perturb asteroids it passes only 0.002 AUs from. May 20th, Friday, asteroid 1999 RQ176 will be only 338,403 km from Elenin and will pass through its tail. Even so, any gravitational perturbation will be below our ability to detect, meaning Elenin's mass must be very low compared to a planet.
[link to spaceobs.org]
 Quoting: Astronut


Great Found! Let's see on May 20th.

Actually, if Elenin is really that heavy, the asteroid within Roche Limit will be disintegrated by tidal force.


Thanks
 Quoting: Geophysical Events

sorry, but he's saying the mass of Elenin is LOw
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