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History Of The Elite And Who They Really Are.

 
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I have a question for you Mystery, it seems like you might know the answer:

Lately I've been lying down before I go to sleep and counting my breaths, just lying there and looking out through my closed eyes.

Pretty consistently every night, after a while I begin to see in the darkness a spiral of dark and light bands. If my memory is correct, it is moving counter-clockwise. Sometimes these bands even seem to shape themselves into what looks like human forms (it almost looks like a line of forms walking down a corridor). Often in the center of the spiral is a point of light.

Over the course of lying there I will cycle from seeing this spiral into seeing just a still blackness. And then some time later, the spiral will return.

Do you happen to know what this spiral might be?
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It seems to me that your openning up to the primal grid.
these spiral corridors are right through the unseen systems.
They connect to the other realms basically.

I did a thread on the primal grid..instead of me going into it here...you will find the answer there.
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Don't be fooled by how I write. I know it's different in it's context the way it's presented and looks amateurish.

I find language primitive at best and I see and think differently.

Also it's a good cover sometimes...it makes me look unintelligent. That's done by design.
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Thank you. I never got the impression you were unintelligent.

I have a question/questions about language. Although it may be primitive--there is a lot written about their power.

"In the beginning was the WORD and the word was with god and the word was god."

In many mystery traditions the power of the spoken word and the spoken word spoken by many in unison is powerful.

"In speaking words, you are literally moving substance, making a definite difference some where in some way. Most of all, you are making a definite, although seemingly imperceptible, difference within yourself and upon the conditions of your life."

"By making use of knowledge of the powers in the letters and the spoken word, the Merkavah mystics were able to ascend through the heavens."

[link to books.google.com]

I have often wondered about the story of the tower of Bable, and the many different languages people speak that act as a barrier to the ability of a single thought shared globally that could have unimagined power.

I will concede that there is not the proper vocabulary to describe "the grid" and how it functions, but I sense the power in the spoken and written word.

Do you know how or why different languages were put in place?

Thank you.
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Good God Almighty about freaking time!

With all the smart people on here I can't believe I never see the following things mentioned.

Find ways to play with what you believe to be true about yourself and others by changing the filter you use to perceive the world here ---> Mind Lines - Lines for Changing Minds by L. Michael Hall.

For information on creating realities using words you can find a how-to manual here ---> TRANCE-Formations Neuro-Linguistec Programming and the Structure of Hypnosis by John Grinder and Richard Bandler.
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David dIcke's take on his journey up at uluru and pine gap.
I'll add to this in the coming day, with other information that has been given to me.

David's story
I was driven out to Pine Gap to get a 'feel' for the place. That is all you can really do, because you are told to turn back before you even see the entrance. We drove on past the turn-back sign until we could see the main gate, but even that is well forward of the facility itself.


I say facility - there is very little on the surface. I had a great view from my aircraft when I flew back to Alice Springs and all you can see are a series of 'domes' or 'balls' known as 'radomes', and a few buildings here and there. Everything else is underground and this 'everything else' is massive.


It is reckoned to go down at least 12 levels with long tunnels going out in all directions to who knows where. Work is obviously ongoing, too. A resident told me that enormous amounts of concrete are being delivered to the base at this time.


All of us in the car that got close enough to see the entrance had the same feeling of being drained of energy and experiencing headaches and I am sure we were either hit by some electromagnetic device or simply that an electromagnetic field is being beamed from the base into the near vicinity. Certainly for all of us to feel the same confirmed that one or the other is true.

The signs talk about a 'joint' defence facility with Australia, but that is nonsense. It is a United States (global cabal) operation on Australian soil and the 'joint' bit is just to hide the fact that the American military runs the show there and does whatever it likes. Australians were not even allowed to be involved in the construction.


The Australian government and Australia in all its administrative and military forms are not allowed to know what goes on there in the most secret areas. Change the government? It doesn't matter. Whoever is officially in power in Australia, Pine Gap goes on unchecked and unsupervised.


The agreement between the American and Australian governments does not commit America to revealing everything that goes on at Pine Gap, nor what discoveries have been made by the advanced research that goes on there.


Australians were told at first that it was a 'weather station' and then a 'Space Research Centre', but Prime Minister Gough Whitlam revealed in 1975 that the official head at Pine Gap was a CIA agent. Whitlam insisted that all CIA agents in Australia be made known and that was too much for the secret government to accept.

Whitlam was removed from office in November 1975 by the Queen's representative in Australia, the deeply offensive Governor-General John Kerr, who was carrying out the orders of the country's head of state, Queen Elizabeth II, in league with the CIA which funded and manipulated the 'constitutional crisis' that removed Whitlam.


The hundreds of staff at Pine Gap are all Americans in the key areas while there are some Australian liaison staff to give the impression of Australian involvement and federal police who live off base. They patrol the security fence with the American military.


It is a similar situation to Menwith Hill in North Yorkshire, England, which is supposed to be a British Air Force facility. But while you have British personnel at the main entrance, the rest of Menwith Hill is completely controlled by America and everyone, even non-American visitors, is subject to US laws. Pine Gap is, like Menwith Hill, part of the Echelon surveillance system monitoring phone calls, emails and other communications worldwide.


This surveillance includes the communications of political leaders who are supposed to be running their countries and, in theory, though not fact, having oversight of the very facilities that spy on them.


Everything the US personnel need at Pine Gap is flown in from the United States several times a week. They rarely leave the base and any locals in Alice Springs involved any way will not speak about what they see or experience.

Alice Springs itself, about 14 miles from the base, has a very strange atmosphere, almost surreal; and you can feel an 'untold story' vibrating in the energy field around you. It is a bit like walking through a sci-fi movie.


Pine Gap is definitely involved in the broadcasting of low frequency waves that can affect people mentally, emotionally and physically and also lock into human brain activity. This would explain the effect on those of us in the car, but those waves penetrate vast distances and not only around the facility itself.


Pine Gap is a key part of a global frequency field or 'fence' that is manipulating human perception and this also includes other US bases in Australia and around world. The HAARP facility in Alaska is fundamental to this and the network of bases and technology centres work as one unit to generate and maintain this frequency web.


Pine Gap is also a ground station for satellite communications in this region of the Earth and so much else. American military operations, like those in Iraq and Afghanistan, are guided from there and supported by communication intercepts of 'enemy' commanders.

Even if an Australian government was opposed to a war involving the United States (highly unlikely) the military operations and mass murder would still be supported by American personnel working from beneath central Australia.

I suggest that another prime reason for the base is as an interface between the American military, various expressions of the National Security Agency (NSA) and extraterrestrials.


There is something about the ancient energy field of Australia that makes Pine Gap so important in the global network of underground bases. The immense energy field in the region around Uluru (Ayers Rock) is only 25 minutes away by aircraft and that will connect into the Earth energy grid in which Pine Gap operates.


There is a raw power in this enormous land mass that can be used and tapped into - this is why Australia is one of the Satanism capitals of the world.


Sightings of strange lights over Pine Gap are legion and the same with other 'UFO' activity around Alice Springs. Some who have got close enough to the base to see the facility through strong telescopes have reported seeing strange craft over the base and some sort of interaction with the ground through beams of light.

Aircraft passengers have reported seeing large white objects leaving the base at great speed and there are a number of reports of people seeing camouflaged doors opening in the hillsides and sometimes tube-like objects going inside.


People have no idea how close and advanced are the interactions and cooperation between the beyond government global cabal and non-human species of reptilian type and others, including the 'Greys'.


It should also be emphasised that many craft called 'extraterrestrial' by onlookers are actually flown by humans and so sightings of advanced craft don't always mean 'off planet'. The scientific and technological cutting edge in these secret facilities is light-years in advance of what we are allowed to see in the public arena.


A government map-maker who camped near Pine Gap reported seeing an object hovering over the base at around a thousand feet. He estimated that the circular disc was up to six hundred feet in diameter and he said a blue light was beamed from the ground to the craft. This was joined by a beam of golden light.


The cartographer said that he watched this for some 40 minutes, but when he told his boss in Alice Springs, he said he was warned by aggressive officials that he would be in serious trouble if he talked about what he saw.

Five witnesses led by an employee of a government department in Western Australia were reported to have camped out for several nights to observe activity at Pine Gap with powerful telescopes after a tip off that something 'big' was going to happen there.


They saw nothing out of the ordinary for the first few nights, but then the action started. They said they saw vehicles and groups of people in overalls gathering near the radomes. Then a golden beam of light of great intensity several metres across was projected into the sky from the radome area. It appeared to generate stationary clouds and when the beam was cut the clouds drifted away.


Four objects described as 'star-like' then appeared together with a cigar-shaped craft which descended to some five hundred feet above the base. Blue beams began to flash between all of the craft and the ground. The observers said the craft appeared to be in communication with Pine Gap personnel.


Advanced craft are seen around many known underground bases, most notably Area 51 in Nevada which is far from the most important even though it is the most famous. Many of these bases operate as interfaces with non-humans, some in 'physical form' and others who come in energetic form as flashes of light and operate under the ground in technologically-generated atmospheres that suit them.

We see mass protests outside parliaments and other political gatherings, but they are just the here today, gone tomorrow politicians who mostly have absolutely no idea who is really controlling and directing global events. The real power is in the unseen realms - including underground bases.


If anyone still believes that there is no Hidden Hand at work, well here is a question. American presidents and politicians are not allowed to know what is really going on at US underground bases in America and around the world; British prime ministers and politicians are not allowed to know what is happening at British underground bases and American bases on UK soil like Menwith Hill; Australian prime ministers and politicians are not allowed to know what is happening at Australian underground bases and American bases on Australian soil like Pine Gap.


So what force is making the decisions about what happens at these facilities no matter who is theoretically in political power? Answer that, and you name the force that is really controlling global events.

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hfbumpThanks, looking forward to your comments on the above.
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I'm just on for a short period. I'll come back to this tommorrow night.

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how do we find ley lines in our area? and what can we do with them?
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Any structure that is above ground is not the main vehicle to harness these energy's.
The facility in canada is not haarp.
There are no tesla like devices above ground. they are all underground and well hidden.

If you have a good look at the haarp facilty in canada, it's just basically antenna's wired up in sequences.
They serve a purpose but it's only minor in the scheme of things. In reality it's not haarp. Earth grid devices don't look like that.

These other ancient devices that tap into the grid at selected vortex points on this earth are hidden underground.

The pine gap facility is one of them. David dIcke is correct in his analogy of this facilty. This vortex is one of the main points in the earth's grid system.

In my earlier posts, I talked about this facility having blood stored there from the population.

It also serves as a conduit that links other posts in the world with there underground systems. When people witness lights and colours around these points, thay are energy's that are being emmited from the vortex energy point from there devices.

This technology is very similiar to the ancient tech that they had.
Also tesla had a big part to play indirectly.

When you start to look into the conspiracy field...view it as an ancient culture...These fields are from ancient times.

When I talked about our earth's biofields been distruped with frequency's...I was refering to these facility's that are put in place...
Like David dIcke and a few others experienced these frequency's while they were in the car....imagine what it's like in our whole earth's sphere.


There are other facility's around victoria that I won't name at this point because it's irrelevant.
These other facility's are diffrent in nature to the pine gap one...These deal in implants.

Australia has a vast network of lattice dormant energy in it's grid structure.
There are corridors that bind these systems, which the aboriginals call songlines.

I know for a fact that there is a wide spread of magical practises that exist in australia. More than people realise.

There all in different stages...from personal.. to groups and elite involment.

Most of these major practises from the top end...are centered on mountainous ranges...the energy is more pronanced there.

There is one close by in my area that's infested with these people. There are pockets of vortex lines up there that I've sensed myself.


I'm not sure overseas what it's like with hospitals...but if you have a good look, up on top of the roof of most hospitals, there are shit loads of antennas and mobile towers. Some places call them cell towers... but there one and the same thing.

Why would you have these energy's centered on a so called healing center. I don't even have to go into that answer.

The disruption would be massive.
There is one hospital here, and I'm sure they exist overseas too, that have underground systems attached to them.

I'm not going to get into the alien agenda like icke does but it's not relevant to the whole concept.
Pine gap is a form of haarp and it's quiet strong...stronger than what the other so called facility in canada..that one is mild in comparision.
There would be a device like pyramid underground that harnesses these energy's.
But like I said in other posts...they are limited in there accesss.
Don't get me wrong...there still very powerful energy's that they work with.
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how do we find ley lines in our area? and what can we do with them?
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If your not intuitive to find these lines...the ancient art of dowsing will find these lines.

Go to my primal grid thread and you should find some of the answers there...if not just let me know.

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Thank you greatly for imparting your knowledge towards us. I could write more but I am sure you know you are greatly appreciated.

Whats your take on the Denver Airport conspiracies (the murals, pyramid construction above ground currently) and also the American FEM@ camps?

You say you do not expect any big event to happen, but my intuition is that there is a holocaust planned, where both soldiers and the sun will play there part. I've gleaned quite a bit from music I listed to - the "system of sound" is perpetuating fear undoubtedly.

I hope this is because the elites feed on fear, and not because these plans are real - they seem to me to be real.

Thank you for your reply - it's these negative events that most greatly are curtailing my awakening attempts, which is too bad as I feel I am making great progress if not for the burden of the beast. I am sure others share this experience along with me.
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Thank you greatly for imparting your knowledge towards us. I could write more but I am sure you know you are greatly appreciated.

Whats your take on the Denver Airport conspiracies (the murals, pyramid construction above ground currently) and also the American FEM@ camps?

You say you do not expect any big event to happen, but my intuition is that there is a holocaust planned, where both soldiers and the sun will play there part. I've gleaned quite a bit from music I listed to - the "system of sound" is perpetuating fear undoubtedly.

I hope this is because the elites feed on fear, and not because these plans are real - they seem to me to be real.

Thank you for your reply - it's these negative events that most greatly are curtailing my awakening attempts, which is too bad as I feel I am making great progress if not for the burden of the beast. I am sure others share this experience along with me.
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My gut feeling towards the denver airport is that it's only made visible, these murals and structures to make people think that there is a so called agenda.

Symbology plays a big part in altering perception.

When I say that there will be no event like people think...it's a knowing..a deep intuitive understanding of the direction we are all heading in.

You have to understand that these people in so called power, have made the perception viable to the populance, that they do have control.

But underneath it all, in the intanbibile...they are no way near it...people get this perception because it's inbuit in there perceptions.


These structures will evenntually break down..it's inevitable.
They won't succeed...I know.
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(I'm pasting from the primal grid thread, look forward to your thoughts)



Hi OP I'm back again, haven't posted here in a very long time, remember i was talking to you about starfire? well i think I've joined a few more dots.

Must remember where I learned this, but apparently (remember the watchers you told me about) well those negative entities/fallen angels/ aliens/ demons/ annunaki/ you know who im talking about, well anyway they apparently to intermarry with the earths population, they had to drink blood to become 'human' or mortal so to speak

(i remember where i heard this, look up 98th degree mason on youtube, man with white beard)

as i was saying, yes they needed human blood to become and stay human as they are not of our form. this originated in Sumer (remember I read up on this history quite a lot i told you before) well this is what the sumerians referred to when they were talking about their ancestors. Well more interestingly, over time (due to the silk road and the trade routes to armenia and eventually eastern europe such as romania region) these 'people' who drank blood aka starfire settled in that region -hence the whole vampire mythology, so simple when you think about it, and why in mythology the locals rebuking these negative/demonic beings would mention a positive entity such as jesus etc to get rid of them.

anyway, these 'people' because of their original and literally other worldy superior intellect would become trade masters i.e. the black nobility, this is why their families have so many serpent symbols associated with themselves. This is who the elite are, if you look at a recent example google 'flemish cabinet in holyrood house' i was watching a bbc programme on this and saw this chest, inside it has a black and white!!! checkerboard enclave and above it is a reversed pentacle star, this was treasured by queen victoria (prince albert, mason built balmoral remember - the uk equivalent of the mothers of darkness castle and the 'pink ballets' remember i was telling you about) anyway look at this cabinet, i have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this is in actual fact an altar of sorts, this ties into the fact that elite and starfire if you trace back to egyptian times were so closely connected.

im sorry for this rather haphazard prose, but i obviously havent told anyone this information and i have a discernment that this is inportant.

Where was I, yes as parallels are drawn with religions which try to explain this eg. muslims and jinns christians and fallen angels etc this is why in religious texts it is forbidden to drink blood, this also makes sense now. now fastrack to the present goals of the elite, they are interested in altering DNA to become in effect immortal, like those negative entities who drank starfire, this the explanation of the blood facility you are talking about.

OP this is all beginning to fit, more dots are being connected, its quite sickening when you think about it.

Now finally, the reason im quoting you here is, at Bitsun there is an inscription in rock in one of the books im reading, this is a higly significant site in mesopotamia (iraq) which explains why the invasion of iraq commenced - about wars to control the grid like you said - the point im making is that (like the masonic/egyptian needle behind the whitehouse which focuses the elites control of the grid) there is in the background of this picture a modern army camp (probably government archaeologists) and the camp is st out as a pentacle star within a perfect circle, thereby focusing the energy to the elites aims. i will be looking for the picture to prove this.

Your thoughts as always OP are greatly looked forward to.
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this is a picture of a 'sculpture of heracles on the way to the inscription' notice the symbolic bowl. this could be a reference to starfire as i have said in mesopotamia.

as i have studied class civ heracles aka hercules is identified by normally holding a club not a bowl, this would lead me to believe that is is not therefore heracles

[liveleak] [link to www.flickr.com]

this is probably THE most obvious evidence there could be. Just as outside the Vatican there is an egyptian needle, like behind the whitehouse, this too has the same meaning and power for the elite.

Look forward to hearing from you OP!!!
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When i was referring to the pentacle in a circle i meant the Persian city of Persepolis where this is visible. just as the obelisk outside the vatican and behind the whitehouse direct the elites energy and help their control of the grid, this is a less or never publicised example of the same thing. This also fits into why the americans invaded iraq, it is indeed as you have said OP not a war for oil but to indeed control the vortex points of the grid all over the world.

[liveleak] [link to www.google.co.uk]

p.s. when i referred to the sbake being used as a symbol to represent the elites various family houses i was referring to the snakes symbolic meaning of knowledge, basically the elites wink to them having a higher intelligence (as explained by the starfire scenario etc) hence why they describe themselves as being illuminated.

Your thoughts OP?
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When i was referring to the pentacle in a circle i meant the Persian city of Persepolis where this is visible. just as the obelisk outside the vatican and behind the whitehouse direct the elites energy and help their control of the grid, this is a less or never publicised example of the same thing. This also fits into why the americans invaded iraq, it is indeed as you have said OP not a war for oil but to indeed control the vortex points of the grid all over the world.

[liveleak] [link to www.google.co.uk]

p.s. when i referred to the sbake being used as a symbol to represent the elites various family houses i was referring to the snakes symbolic meaning of knowledge, basically the elites wink to them having a higher intelligence (as explained by the starfire scenario etc) hence why they describe themselves as being illuminated.

Your thoughts OP?
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That picture is more than just a pentacle i feel.
As soon as i looked at it, there was a strong feeling that I had seen it before.
not sure were...I have to think about it more and see what I come up with. To me it seems like it's a vortex point with corridors...

I wrote about the snake energy and symbolism..i think it's in the primal thread.

The serpentine energy exists every were...the snake is only symbolic of the energy.
What I want to do is write something up first and see what you think.
I'll do this soon.
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this is a picture of a 'sculpture of heracles on the way to the inscription' notice the symbolic bowl. this could be a reference to starfire as i have said in mesopotamia.

as i have studied class civ heracles aka hercules is identified by normally holding a club not a bowl, this would lead me to believe that is is not therefore heracles

[liveleak] [link to www.flickr.com]

this is probably THE most obvious evidence there could be. Just as outside the Vatican there is an egyptian needle, like behind the whitehouse, this too has the same meaning and power for the elite.

Look forward to hearing from you OP!!!
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I'm not that familiar with hercules..I know of him...but I couldn't comment on what you have just said. I trust that you would be correct if he held a club...then this picture must be in connection with a totally different being.

I don't think all the factions use this star fire..the ones that would use the blood would be the ones that are connected with entity's in the astral world...Some of the high black magicians would.
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(I'm pasting from the primal grid thread, look forward to your thoughts)



Hi OP I'm back again, haven't posted here in a very long time, remember i was talking to you about starfire? well i think I've joined a few more dots.

Must remember where I learned this, but apparently (remember the watchers you told me about) well those negative entities/fallen angels/ aliens/ demons/ annunaki/ you know who im talking about, well anyway they apparently to intermarry with the earths population, they had to drink blood to become 'human' or mortal so to speak

(i remember where i heard this, look up 98th degree mason on youtube, man with white beard)

as i was saying, yes they needed human blood to become and stay human as they are not of our form. this originated in Sumer (remember I read up on this history quite a lot i told you before) well this is what the sumerians referred to when they were talking about their ancestors. Well more interestingly, over time (due to the silk road and the trade routes to armenia and eventually eastern europe such as romania region) these 'people' who drank blood aka starfire settled in that region -hence the whole vampire mythology, so simple when you think about it, and why in mythology the locals rebuking these negative/demonic beings would mention a positive entity such as jesus etc to get rid of them.

anyway, these 'people' because of their original and literally other worldy superior intellect would become trade masters i.e. the black nobility, this is why their families have so many serpent symbols associated with themselves. This is who the elite are, if you look at a recent example google 'flemish cabinet in holyrood house' i was watching a bbc programme on this and saw this chest, inside it has a black and white!!! checkerboard enclave and above it is a reversed pentacle star, this was treasured by queen victoria (prince albert, mason built balmoral remember - the uk equivalent of the mothers of darkness castle and the 'pink ballets' remember i was telling you about) anyway look at this cabinet, i have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this is in actual fact an altar of sorts, this ties into the fact that elite and starfire if you trace back to egyptian times were so closely connected.

im sorry for this rather haphazard prose, but i obviously havent told anyone this information and i have a discernment that this is inportant.

Where was I, yes as parallels are drawn with religions which try to explain this eg. muslims and jinns christians and fallen angels etc this is why in religious texts it is forbidden to drink blood, this also makes sense now. now fastrack to the present goals of the elite, they are interested in altering DNA to become in effect immortal, like those negative entities who drank starfire, this the explanation of the blood facility you are talking about.

OP this is all beginning to fit, more dots are being connected, its quite sickening when you think about it.

Now finally, the reason im quoting you here is, at Bitsun there is an inscription in rock in one of the books im reading, this is a higly significant site in mesopotamia (iraq) which explains why the invasion of iraq commenced - about wars to control the grid like you said - the point im making is that (like the masonic/egyptian needle behind the whitehouse which focuses the elites control of the grid) there is in the background of this picture a modern army camp (probably government archaeologists) and the camp is st out as a pentacle star within a perfect circle, thereby focusing the energy to the elites aims. i will be looking for the picture to prove this.

Your thoughts as always OP are greatly looked forward to.
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Before I'll answer some of these..I'll write up that part I mentioned about the elite and freemasons..and so on.
I think some of that will connect with parts of what you are mentioning about the degree with the masons.
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Egypt was one of the major centers of learning..this includes arts and science, grid geomancy, and magical practises.

The elite rose up through atlantis and went onto the egyptian culture. They were the black magicians through the infiltration of the mystery's.

They underminded and corrupted the morals of the greater mystery's.
They unsurped the positions of the intiates and gained control of these learning schools. They basically seized the reins of the spiritual goverment.

Black magic dictated the society's and they paralyzed humanity's intelect..The spiritual values were totally corrupted. They made people indoctrinated into there dogma. which was formulated by there priesthood.

Like today's systems, were you have presidents and prime ministers..so called heads of power...the ancient pharoah was just a puppet...these systems are repeated up to this present day.

These elite or sorcerers had began the sytematic destruction of all the key knowledge and ancient wisdom that was evident in our distant past.
Every person who went into these learning centers to become adepts and gain knowledge, had only one choice ...that choice was to go into the only science centers that were controled by them.

In other words..they unknownly became one of there order...the dictated dogma.

By professing to the masses they were preserving the mystery's...they controled how far the initiate would go into the degree of intiation.

This stands up in our world today with the freemasons..they have degrees that brings them up the ladder.
the thing is... that they only get so far because these elements are controled by higher factions.
They rarley let the populance into it's highest realm.

The majority of freemasons are not elite at all...they are just puppets that get dictated to.
A lot of freemasonary is part of the old mystery's...but it's only a shallow shell of it's old self.

The symbolism and it's knowledge has been given false interpretations..in other words all this knowledge has been altered to suit the agenda.

These people have highjacked the science of grid geomancy and spiritual knowledge..they have replaced it with different connotations to suit.

This has confused and deprived humanity to there righful birthplace. These beings are spiritual imposters.

Through atlantis and egypt...they have brought there deceptive black magic into today's world. eveything has risen from these continents.

This is because they were the major learning centers on this planet...a lot of the other cutlures were of shoots from these learning centers.

So it wasn't hard to gain control into the other cultures

Even the qabbalists had a large number of black magicians.
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I'll go through some inside knowledge on these peoples practises.

Being magicians...they work in the invisible realms. They partake in ceremonial practises but they use a higher form of magic.
They converse with the elementals..They gained knowledge through these beings..Some gained an energy form that binds them to these elementals.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread about the ancient egyptian curse in the tombs of kings.

This was put in place by these black magicians by summoning these elemental spirits. As you see they have been doing it since our ancient past.

They opened these doorways through the mystery schools and they unleashed these elementals into our field of consciouness. The corridors of energy between realms can be accessed. That doorway has been opened through our history.
The giza pyramid is a conduit to these realms.
don't get me wrong..the pyramid was the original ceter of learning..to an extent it's highjacked.
They know that people who take drugs...are a good candidate to have these elementals attach themselves to there auric field. the untold damage from this is staggering.

All the set up is elaborate..from drugs, alchol,prescription drugs, certian foods and so on. They bind our auric field to be accessed by these realms of elementals. That's why they are known as magicians.

Magicians work in the invisible realms and know there make up and know what resides in them.
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I'll go through some inside knowledge on these peoples practises.

Being magicians...they work in the invisible realms. They partake in ceremonial practises but they use a higher form of magic.
They converse with the elementals..They gained knowledge through these beings..Some gained an energy form that binds them to these elementals.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread about the ancient egyptian curse in the tombs of kings.

This was put in place by these black magicians by summoning these elemental spirits. As you see they have been doing it since our ancient past.

They opened these doorways through the mystery schools and they unleashed these elementals into our field of consciouness. The corridors of energy between realms can be accessed. That doorway has been opened through our history.
The giza pyramid is a conduit to these realms.
don't get me wrong..the pyramid was the original ceter of learning..to an extent it's highjacked.
They know that people who take drugs...are a good candidate to have these elementals attach themselves to there auric field. the untold damage from this is staggering.

All the set up is elaborate..from drugs, alchol,prescription drugs, certian foods and so on. They bind our auric field to be accessed by these realms of elementals. That's why they are known as magicians.

Magicians work in the invisible realms and know there make up and know what resides in them.
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The other thing that I wanted to bring up is the current full moon. there has been a strong flow of energy that's coming from this shere at the moment.
it's definetely a doorway of energy that's permeating into our field of awareness. it's become stronger just lately.

I can sense these things and when i go out side and view it..I can feel these energy's coming our way.
The moon has always had an effect on our field and it's not one that's made to up lift our awareness.
These magicians are up to something.
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(I'm pasting from the primal grid thread, look forward to your thoughts)



Hi OP I'm back again, haven't posted here in a very long time, remember i was talking to you about starfire? well i think I've joined a few more dots.

Must remember where I learned this, but apparently (remember the watchers you told me about) well those negative entities/fallen angels/ aliens/ demons/ annunaki/ you know who im talking about, well anyway they apparently to intermarry with the earths population, they had to drink blood to become 'human' or mortal so to speak

(i remember where i heard this, look up 98th degree mason on youtube, man with white beard)

as i was saying, yes they needed human blood to become and stay human as they are not of our form. this originated in Sumer (remember I read up on this history quite a lot i told you before) well this is what the sumerians referred to when they were talking about their ancestors. Well more interestingly, over time (due to the silk road and the trade routes to armenia and eventually eastern europe such as romania region) these 'people' who drank blood aka starfire settled in that region -hence the whole vampire mythology, so simple when you think about it, and why in mythology the locals rebuking these negative/demonic beings would mention a positive entity such as jesus etc to get rid of them.

anyway, these 'people' because of their original and literally other worldy superior intellect would become trade masters i.e. the black nobility, this is why their families have so many serpent symbols associated with themselves. This is who the elite are, if you look at a recent example google 'flemish cabinet in holyrood house' i was watching a bbc programme on this and saw this chest, inside it has a black and white!!! checkerboard enclave and above it is a reversed pentacle star, this was treasured by queen victoria (prince albert, mason built balmoral remember - the uk equivalent of the mothers of darkness castle and the 'pink ballets' remember i was telling you about) anyway look at this cabinet, i have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this is in actual fact an altar of sorts, this ties into the fact that elite and starfire if you trace back to egyptian times were so closely connected.

im sorry for this rather haphazard prose, but i obviously havent told anyone this information and i have a discernment that this is inportant.

Where was I, yes as parallels are drawn with religions which try to explain this eg. muslims and jinns christians and fallen angels etc this is why in religious texts it is forbidden to drink blood, this also makes sense now. now fastrack to the present goals of the elite, they are interested in altering DNA to become in effect immortal, like those negative entities who drank starfire, this the explanation of the blood facility you are talking about.

OP this is all beginning to fit, more dots are being connected, its quite sickening when you think about it.

Now finally, the reason im quoting you here is, at Bitsun there is an inscription in rock in one of the books im reading, this is a higly significant site in mesopotamia (iraq) which explains why the invasion of iraq commenced - about wars to control the grid like you said - the point im making is that (like the masonic/egyptian needle behind the whitehouse which focuses the elites control of the grid) there is in the background of this picture a modern army camp (probably government archaeologists) and the camp is st out as a pentacle star within a perfect circle, thereby focusing the energy to the elites aims. i will be looking for the picture to prove this.

Your thoughts as always OP are greatly looked forward to.
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A lot of what you have mentioned is connected to these people..I've put parts of this through the thread.

That picture in iraq...in the middle there looks like there is a water pond of sorts..then you have what looks like corridors that go into different directions.
I know it resembles a pentacle but i think it's more than that.
It symbolises a device of sorts. The water is a conduit..maybe a vortex point?
The corridors are ley lines that crisscross at it's point...maybe i'm wrong..but that's what i think it resembles to me.

The round barrels of sorts that line up along the corridors must have a significance to. There are fifty of them.
Something to explore.
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Yes regarding that iraq picture (persepolis) of the pentacle, apparently it is a recently constructed site of tents that archaeoligists have installed to bring to life a sense of the historic city.

oh yes i know not all factions would use blood/starfire etc but Egyptian and Persian history is very closely related as Xerxes or Darius (can't remember which Persian king) conquored Egypt, then placed into power Cambyses (remember the bent pyramid he constructed.) this is why i believe that the mystery schools of both cultures are related, and remember too that Persians were Zoroastrians, an interesting religion to research, the use of magic is present (they are known as Magi)

oh what i said about hercules aka heracles (same god, just romans changed the greek names) anyway, i have been to the vatican in rome, and i was perplexed at the amount of egyptian mummies and statutes of gods they had thinking why would a christian church have these things in their possession (so clear now as they are the corrupted mystery schools!!) yes well, hercules is always depicted with a club (like apollo had a lyre, neptune had a trident etc) basically every god had an accessory to identify themselves, really easy to affirm this on google,

so why would the statute of hercules have a bowl, especially since it was carved by the greeks, the makers of this god myth to celebrate trade between greece and iraq/iran!!



yes what you say about persepolis and the vortex corridor sounds right, as soon as i saw the picture in the book it stood out like a sore thumb!

your writings are very informative, and totally bang on. oh look up on youtube this ex 98th degree mason, he was also a druid/magician sorry i dont know enough to categorise which branch he was from, anyway he explains a great deal and im sure this will be especially interesting to you, he mentions a lot of technical stuff. (its easy to find on youtube, guy with white hair and white beard.) he also mentions that the 360 degree masons (known as olympians) are 'kings' of the illumaniti and it is those 13 which sit on the council of thirteen, apparently at the mothers of darkness castle, and the high priestess sits on a crescent throne there. (from what i recall.) anyway this ex mason guy talks extensively about how he used to summon up beings or whatever they are and all the ceremonys he used to do. il find the video now and put it in a link!
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forgot to say, when you were talking about the moon, is the field of our awareness increasing? as in positive action or do you mean the 'elite' are trying to reduce our awareness? funny you should say this because its only the start of this week i remembered about this thread (been busy with work and forgot!)

also when you mentioned those beings in the pyramid, alister crowley spent the night there too, and i remember reading how he drew a picture of one of the things that was talking to him, looked stunningly similar to a grey. now i absolutely thought the whole alien mumbo jumbo thing was ridiculous a year ago, but now i am begining to see that 'aliens' can be also termed 'demons' or negative entities, your views??

thanks! always look forward to seeing your posts every day!
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here's the mason guy i was telling you about, if you go to youtube he has several videos, let me know what you think esp regarding magicians as you know infinately more than me, would like to see if his story stacks up!

[/liveleak][youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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here's the mason guy i was telling you about, if you go to youtube he has several videos, let me know what you think esp regarding magicians as you know infinately more than me, would like to see if his story stacks up!

[/liveleak][youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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VERY important!!! he mentions at his highest degree, he had to drink the blood of what he calls a fallen angel, starfire reference, this is when he was told to join a vampiric cult.
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here's the mason guy i was telling you about, if you go to youtube he has several videos, let me know what you think esp regarding magicians as you know infinately more than me, would like to see if his story stacks up!

[/liveleak][youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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I'll look at this over the weekend. Thanks for posting it.
bit busy at the moment and i'll look forward to seeing the video.
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forgot to say, when you were talking about the moon, is the field of our awareness increasing? as in positive action or do you mean the 'elite' are trying to reduce our awareness? funny you should say this because its only the start of this week i remembered about this thread (been busy with work and forgot!)

also when you mentioned those beings in the pyramid, alister crowley spent the night there too, and i remember reading how he drew a picture of one of the things that was talking to him, looked stunningly similar to a grey. now i absolutely thought the whole alien mumbo jumbo thing was ridiculous a year ago, but now i am begining to see that 'aliens' can be also termed 'demons' or negative entities, your views??

thanks! always look forward to seeing your posts every day!
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I've got a good sense of energy that I can pick up on.
It's almost like a beam of energy that's constricted.
In other words...it's a restricted numbing sense of energy.
it's directed at the earth..not necessarily from the elite, but an energy that's controlled.

The pyramid has a vast portal that's been toned down. It's still strong enough to have an open doorway into the ethric worlds.
These beings.. that have been seen...range from demons..genni's, aliens and so on.

The aliens are not necessarily alien from other worlds. These demons or genni's can shape shift in the ethric worlds of energy. They can appear to be something there not.

Aliens exist in other dimensions...not like we think, on other worlds.

There are infinite numbers of entity's in the manifested worlds. Everything is possible..don't discount anything you come across.

I'll tell you a story about when I went to egypt, when I was young. As soon as I got near the pyramid in the mini bus, I felt an energy that was so strong, I haven't felt anything like it since.

It virtually was all around me..it felt gentle and strong in the fact, it became part of me at that point.

Being young and inexperienced..I didn't know better at that point.

The things that happened over a week...was quiet extraodinary to say the least.

The next few days I went into shops that had jewlery incased in glass casings...when I was in the first one..the glass casing on top just collapsed and broke into a million pieces...on to the jewlery. I didn't think much of it at the time, until the next day I went into another one and the same thing happened. This occured three times.

It had to do with the energy's there...the thing was, I didn't know how to control it. That's the only answer that made sense.

We went back to the pyramid with a taxi driver we hired for the day...we decided to climb the small pyramid.
As we were half way up there, we heard the car horn go of from the taxi. I thought what the hell does he want.

He must be trying to get our attention. We could see him coming out of the car and throwing his hands in the air.
being out of the car the horn just keeped blowing..he eventually disconnected it.

It doesn't stop there..I went out for the day by myself and I got back late..I hadn't eaten and the dinning room was closed.
I asked if I could get some food...they said it was not a problem and i could eat in the dinning room.
I was the only one there...plus the waiter that stood at the doorway.
The lights had gone out in the whole block and they were useing candles.

I don't know what came over me...but I started focusing on one of the candles across the room.
All of a sudden the light from the candle must of shot up about a good foot. It started crackling and sparkling as it shot up.
I looked back at the waiter with a smile and he looked at me and looked back at the candle and he ran out of the room screaming.

Next day he must of told everyone and they started to look at me strangley. Cutting the story short..I had to get out of there..the egyptians are very superstitious.

I haven't told this story to anyone before..but the jist of it was, I must have tapped into the energy's that were around that region..
The problem was...I didn't know how to control them.

We can all tap into these energy's..it showed me that we have great accesse into these realms of energy.
It's a matter that we need to reconect to these dormant energy's.
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thanks for sharing that with me, yes you must definately have tapped into some energy. just wondering, is your third eye open and was it open when you went to Egypt? funnily enough one of my cousins went to the pyramids a month ago, I really must get over there.

oh the video is quite long, but it explains pretty much everything about the elites, well worth sitting through it!
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hi again OP!

Hope you get time to comment back here. I have just come across a very interesting piece of information. I wondered why lately the markets have gone crazy over the price of gold, and I've picked up along the way that gold is important in some capacity, not just in monetary value. So I did some research...

You know the way the great experiment of the masons and the elite is to alter human DNA to create immortal humans, thereby achieving godlike status? Well I have researched this further, and as Im sure you are aware to do this a hybrid must come about, aka what is referred to as the antichrist. Well, to create this hybrid I have found out that triple strand DNA is needed (this is what the elites refer to as the holy grail) and I'm sure your thinking how does this relate to gold? Well look at this link!

[liveleak] [link to www.scientificamerican.com]

"Peptide nucleic acid (gold) readily enters DNA's major groove to form triple-stranded and other structures with DNA, allowing it to modify the activity of genes in new ways."
"Drugs based on PNA would achieve therapeutic effects by binding to specific base sequences of DNA or RNA, repressing or promoting the corresponding gene.
Some researchers working to construct artificial life-forms out of mixtures of chemicals are also considering PNA as a useful ingredient for their designs.
PNA-like molecules may have served as primordial genetic material at the origin of life."

your thoughts as always OP.
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OP, thank you for sharing all this great info. Im a bit perplexed about a few things.
Many people want doom. They want the reset button. Many are committing suicide at an alarming rate. These people are really genuine good folks who just cant adjust to this increasingly darkening world.
Short of a catastrophe or a global miracle, none of us will be released from the bindings of this reality and gaining access to our truth both personally and collectively.
At this rate, we will never be connected as a species. Too many divisions amongst us to make it happen organically in the blink of an eye.
You state it will change in our lifetime, maybe after yet another pope. You have also stated that no one will help us out of this situation we are in, humanity has to help themselves and has to realize its powers.

1. How are we all supposed to get on the same page with all the divisions amongst us? That would take another 200 years...maybe.

2.How can this ontinue without intervention of some sort?

3.How are we supposed to learn that which we were never taught in an increasingly polluted psychic atmosphere to regain our powers?

3.What about these ET races that are supposed to be showing up soon....is that a lie as well?

Thank you in advance.
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OP, thank you for sharing all this great info. Im a bit perplexed about a few things.
Many people want doom. They want the reset button. Many are committing suicide at an alarming rate. These people are really genuine good folks who just cant adjust to this increasingly darkening world.
Short of a catastrophe or a global miracle, none of us will be released from the bindings of this reality and gaining access to our truth both personally and collectively.
At this rate, we will never be connected as a species. Too many divisions amongst us to make it happen organically in the blink of an eye.
You state it will change in our lifetime, maybe after yet another pope. You have also stated that no one will help us out of this situation we are in, humanity has to help themselves and has to realize its powers.

1. How are we all supposed to get on the same page with all the divisions amongst us? That would take another 200 years...maybe.

2.How can this ontinue without intervention of some sort?

3.How are we supposed to learn that which we were never taught in an increasingly polluted psychic atmosphere to regain our powers?

3.What about these ET races that are supposed to be showing up soon....is that a lie as well?

Thank you in advance.
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I wrote this thread about doom.. Thread: Why has mind in humans turned to doom?

What do you think?


On the last page..a guy posted a great write up on our upbringing..I think you'll find this to be a great summary on our current status.


I've got some issues with this bloody internet provider on my computer.
For some reason it keeps dropping out.
As soon as I get this fixed, I'll get around to answering some of your questions.
I'll have a look at that video to.

Should be the next couple of days.

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