You know the Iraq war really was a complete success, both of them. The oil is still in the ground gaining value nicely, we killed a ton of people, and they will never be able to industrialize and refine or even pump their own oil, due to the toxic chemistry of their children's brains. Also we made a shit ton of money on the whole thing, sure allot of debt was created too but that's mostly being passed on to third world countries, and poor Americans who are FROM third world countries.

In Afghanistan we are finally lowering the birth rate, something even the glorious soviets never achieved. From my perspective we are winning. Whose side are you on?