***CHEMTRAIL PLANE BLOWS UP AT CALIFORNIA BASE?***

How do you know they were at the same altitude?

WOOHOO, one down and 200 to go

Thank you for the picture op. I used to work on the KC135 military tanker in the AF. The picture you are showing was the KC10 version which was a DC10 converted into a military tanker. The interesting thing about the video and your picture is they are of a private company contracted to supposedly support the military in their refueling operations. Problem is I don't see the necessary refueling booms. Usually there is a refueling boom on the tail or pods that extend a refueling hose on the wing tips. These A/C have neither. How do you refuel without them? I am always a little suspicious when you use the word government and private company in the same sentence.

See the paranoid rantings of a chemtard pussy.

Notice how many OTHER things this person gets unhinged about. Is there any limit to this persons fear-mongering/paranoia/ignorance?

Doubtful.

[link to www.google.com]

And yet you pass yourself off as an expert on all things chemtrail, like you're privy to all government secrets and know the truth.

Funk off, rabid debunker. This is a discussion for open minds. You don't belong whether you're a shill, a knowitall or just a sheep.

Are you suggesting that the boom doesn't retract into the fuselage?!

never in my childhood do i remember seeing contrails from jets turn into clouds that stay in the sky for hours and hours. please explain how clouds are formed so easily. please explain how soil and water samples show toxic levels of barium and aluminum ect in multiple regions. how can chemtrails not exist if its ADMITTED by uk, germany, us ect?
how come there weren't widespread reports of chemtrails until 1999?

treasonous? who the fuck are you?

Yep, how dare you use the word "learn". Probably lost 50% of them right there. Toss in the word, "facts" and you could nuke this entire thread. Never mind trying to explain "airways" or why they mat see an "S" in the sky to slow down their approach to the destination. As I said earlier, elementary school must've let out early this year.

Liar, I have NEVER claimed to be an "expert" on anything. You obviously have no idea what an expert IS! I'm educated in this subject and understand that you paranoids make mistakes based on your LACK of education.

I AM privy to the fact that I have yet to see any evide3nce of chemicals (other than combustion gases and water vapor) in these trails. Have YOU seen any "chemicals" that you can directly link to the trails without making many assumptions?! NOPE!

My mind is open...I just haven't LOST my mind like you have! All I'm asking for is evidence...and I see NONE! That may be fine with YOU...and enough to condemn others...but I need more than the circumstantial BULLSHIT I see here. You can claim that I'm the sheep...but from where I sit, you are the sheep who follows other paranoid conspiracy nuts..

Also, you are a serious pussy.

Do not mistake us for cristards who see nothing but believe. We see and some see into it more cause of cause and effect.

Actual people are actually suffering the effects of actual barium poisoning with lethal levels of barium in their actual blood ALREADY. Intellhub and actually find your own link.

P E R F E C T

Also, I think most (if not all) chemtrail planes are drones (no-one on board).

so do I.

So has anyone found ant proof or come to a conclusion and has the childish bickering stopped yet. That would be good!

Because you didn't see them, they weren't there? I saw them during the 60's and 70's...lots of them out of Logan International. Don't let the fact that thousands of air routes and airports have been added to the USA over the years which would lead to air traffic over areas that didn't have much in the years before. Just keep pretending that you understand EVERYTHING about aviation. Don't, for a second, entertain the idea that you may not know as much about aviation/atmospheric science as those who disagree with you. You KNOW you're right...right?!

LOL


By the way...aluminum and barium are natural elements...of COURSE they are found in the soil/air/ground water! Please provide evidence that they haven't ALWAYS been found in the concentrations they are found now. Good luck with that! And even if these levels were higher, don't you think that ASSUMING these things came from the trails is just STUPID!?

And no, not a single nation has admitted that the trails you people call "chemtrails" have anything to do with any experimentation/testing/spraying of any kind. It's nothing but ignorant assumption on the part of the chemtards. The trails are contrails...and there isn't the slightest evidence to link them to any of the crap you mentioned. Just because things happen in the sky, doesn't mean they are related in any way whatsoever...but go ahead, make stupid assumptions. I'll keep laughing.

Who the fuck are YOU...Oh yeah, you're just a chemtard...

Russia, China and Germany have already admitted to stratospheric geoengineering, and the US government has plenty of bills that obliquely point to the same. Just because the US government would prefer to keep us n the dark doesn't make it any less real.

And your middle school name calling doesn't identify you as educated as you would have us believe.

TED GUNDERSON TELLS THE TRUTH

THE CHEMICAL DEATH DUMPS ARE KILLING PEOPLE ON PURPOSE!!!

If the plane was overloaded, they HAD to have known that with the fueling process.

So, what do we have here?

A tanker plane, so overloaded with fuel that it can't lift off and ends up skidded off the runway when the takeoff is aborted.

Why was extra fuel loaded on the plane?

Only reason that makes sense is for the tanker to return from a long delivery flight.

Cross-country?

Or, another country?

The B-team is doing something they're not supposed to be doing.

Actually, it's not perfect..it's quite stupid. When the planes hit the buildings, the fuel was spilled out and atomized.

OOPS! You didn't think about that, did you!?

Comparing a plane that slides off a runway and breaks open to a plane that disintegrates as it slams into a building at hundreds of miles an hour, is comparing apples and wheelchairs!

The situations are NOTHING like each other...but how could YOU know that, you're just a chemtard AND a 9/11 "truther" (LOL).

You people couldn't be more ignorant about airplanes if you wanted to be.

Look at the picture again. It has the pods right on the wingtips. If they use them primarily for the Navy they wouldn't need the boom.

So? He's just another chemtard. He's just as educated in this matter as you people. Being the head of the FBI gives him no access to any information about this subject than you or I have.

Add the FBI to things you are ignorant about.

Gunderson is a nobody...

I put this on par with Prince making a fool of himself about the subject of "chemtrails".

From the Omega website:

At maximum landing weight, Omega can land with about 100k of fuel, so unless the flight is very short or has a low planned offload, Omega can usually takeoff with full fuel. On a 10,000 ft. sea level runway, Omega can takeoff with full fuel up to about 85 degrees F.

but in this case it did not, wonder what happened?

So now you're an expert on crash investigation, architecture and engineering?

These learned individuals think you're just an amateur:

"1,502 verified architectural and engineering professionals and 12,059 other supporters
have signed the petition demanding of Congress
a truly independent investigation. "

[link to www.ae911truth.org]

On that same page it says a full fuel load is between 156 and 160 thousand pounds. So it was NOT overloaded when the original article said it had about 150,000 pounds of fuel.

Hmmm...mechanical failure?

It blew some tires?

The runway failed?

Or...it has something to do with "chemtrails"....because chemtards believe it...it must be so!

From the company website:

Over the past seven years the OARS/Omega Air Team has flown over 2,500 missions and 8,500 hours, while offloading over 90 million pounds of fuel and 23,000 plugs, while maintaining an exceptional 98 % Mission Completion Rate.

Slightly under 98% now...

I would say 3 tankers above could supply the fast ones that deliver above enuff easily over there desired target and well it changes every day cause they are dreaming if they can do it worldwide, hardy har har har am i a chemtard?

What does that have to do with the fact that the evil security chief and his traitor brother moved the regular personnel out of ENTIRE floors and halliburton explosives were planted the week BEFORE???

rumsfield annouces "lost" money on the day before and over 5000 pentagon pedophiles who download kiddy porn refuse to talk about 3000 ACTUAL Americans favoring butt photos and stolen funds instead. The chinese had trillions of their dollars stolen by wire transfers ILLEGALLY the morning of 9111 and

the evil lyin pos LIEburrman still has "no evidence" of bldg 7 so it never existed it never fell and you are crazy to investigate EVIL silverstein pulling a bldg previously wired for contruction implosion...


YOU LIAR FROM THE PIT OF HELL

protecting murderers and traitors
while condemning the innocent

REMEMBER USS LIBERTY

I know plenty about planes and boats and TRAITORS.

Our government officials have admitted that there are chemtrails, Ron Paul is one of them. Laughing? Wow! Really? You don't wonder why you see a plane fly through the air and the trail seems to multiply. I challenge you. It has nothing to do with increased air traffic. Its usually 2 or 3 planes doing it together. I have watched them, sitting outside, on my property, I have seen it happen. I thought it was crazy too, til I started looking. They will be flying in a grid like pattern, usually on the most beautiful, sunny day. The grid thickens, and turns into streams of smokey looking clouds, and then before you know it, you can no longer see the sky, only the clouds the planes have left behind. Never in my life have I seen anything like that. It's nothing natural going on. Then there's Bill Gates. He's throwing quite a bit of money into some wierd cloud project himself. The silver lining cloud whitening project. I think. You'll have to search to be sure, don't go off that, because I may be wrong on the name. It's very concerning. Just saying, my upper respiratory problems have increased so much in the last 10 years, and I'm an athlete, doesn't run in my gene pool. Something's going on, and if you don't see it, maybe you're not looking in the right places.??? JMHO~