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>>>>>The Sun is in the Wrong Location !!!!! PROOF SUN SETS IN NORTHWEST NOW/// ----> is this normal??????

 
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The Birds are lost and dying .. whales are beaching .. airports in Florida are making new run ways to recalculate the pole shift .. come on man !!

I'm a golfer not a scientist. But golfers do pay attention to the sun, probably more than you think. I should be a scientist though..
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So, what is your point? The sun should set due west every day all year round?
And today it didn't. Is that the problem?
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Threads like this are the best on GLP.
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I like to scare people .. i also like to scare myself .. so fun.
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I'll post a video of the Sun on that Mountain every day if I have to.. Perfect land point to use as visual aid. no one else is caring .. i'll save the world
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The moon is Low too ... lol. Better have your tin foil hat ready.
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aghhhhhhh.. what a crap.
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It did seem a bit off to me last night, but the easiest test will be on the summer solstice. Find a street that runs East- West and the sun should rise and set directly in line with the street.
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WRONG!

The true east-west test occurs on two dates: March 20/21 and September 20/21.

I find it amazing all of the 'tards that did nothing all of their lives other than watch the boob tube and play computer games, are now suddenly awaking and saying "what is that bright orange thing in the sky? It doesn't look right."

Yet these are the same people who insist that chemtrails are plain old contrails, and even when both contrails and chemtrails are in the sky at the same time refuse to see the difference.
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Yep. And it will move further North for one more month. It's called Summer in the Northern hemisphere.

Amazing, uh?
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Then why haven't any other summers made the sun do this??? I live near mountains for a perfect visual in the sun set.. and I play golf too much so I know the Sun !! Every knows the earth spins, it's on a tilt, it has a wobble.. Hey just Shut the F up you F hole

>Bane him for actin dumb
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If they banned the dummies from GLP, most people would be gone....including you.
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Threads like this are the best on GLP.
 Quoting: MrZephyros


I like to scare people .. i also like to scare myself .. so fun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1383437


That's all there is; you're a sadomasochist.

Suntards, instead of keep on crying “the world’s on fire” why don’t you rather use a program - like for instance this one [link to www.pveducation.org] - and compass and check deviation between the actual and calculated solar azimuth at you place and report it here.

The deviation at my place: 0 degree.

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Yep. And it will move further North for one more month. It's called Summer in the Northern hemisphere.

Amazing, uh?
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Then why haven't any other summers made the sun do this??? I live near mountains for a perfect visual in the sun set.. and I play golf too much so I know the Sun !! Every knows the earth spins, it's on a tilt, it has a wobble.. Hey just Shut the F up you F hole

>Bane him for actin dumb
macgun
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If they banned the dummies from GLP, most people would be gone....including you.
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Yup, GLP might turn from a looney into a lonely place.

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Re: >>>>>The Sun is in the Wrong Location !!!!! PROOF SUN SETS IN NORTHWEST NOW/// ----> is this normal??????
BTW, I live in upstate NY. How late does it stay bright in the summer?

Unfortunately there is a large hill due west of me that makes my "sunset" a bit earlier than those on the other side that can see down the valley. But still, for me the sun always dips below the horizon in June and July around the 8:20-8:30 time frame.

Then there is still plenty of light to continue working outside in brightness until 9:00 pm. And even then, twilight is bright enough to still do a few chores, pick up the gardening tools and then come inside around 9:30.

Have been doing that all of my life.
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I am on the fence about the sun's movement at the moment. I have noticed the sun appearing too far north for the date, but to check that I will keep watching the declination through june and july. If the sun moved further northwest after the japan quake it should be further northwest at the solstace.

To me the sun seems to be further north at sunrise, but I have no proof as in pics of sunrise from the same position last year.

To the QM TBAR84 who posted the video showing sun tables you are probably right, but can you check with a sextant for me? I would be anxious to know if your findings match the almanac. I was not a quartermaster, but I was an opticalman and used to repair and collimate your equipment so I am familiar with sextants, compasses etc.

Note that if the true magnetic north has moved using a compass will not be useful for those almanac charts. A sextant using known stars would be best. If you could verify the almanac for me I would appreciate it.

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I'm telling you the sun is setting further west than it ever has before. Check the next sunset. You'll see I'm right.
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I'm telling you the sun is setting further west than it ever has before. Check the next sunset. You'll see I'm right.
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How can it possibly set FURTHER WEST? That statement makes no sense.
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More Proof !! This is the video of me driving to a clearance to be able to see the sunset. I'm telling you the streets of the entire Valley is built on a grid.


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rofl

At 57 seconds in - "the sun would normally set over that mountain right in front of you, okay? Every single day for the last..who knows how long" Ummmm since the start of time?

Honestly, people like you should have all of their video recording devices confiscated.
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Of all the kinds of posts on GLP, these that prove that people can live their whole life and never look at the sky or the horizon, and never understand the concepts of orbits and axis tilts and seasons, are the most retarded.

If you can't even dig why the days get longer in the summer and shorter in the winter, how can you understand ANYTHING?
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+1
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Re: >>>>>The Sun is in the Wrong Location !!!!! PROOF SUN SETS IN NORTHWEST NOW/// ----> is this normal??????
Link shows a WOBBLE graph from 2006 (no wobble) to the present.



[link to hpiers.obspm.fr]
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No wobble?

If there was no wobble the 2010 and 2011 pole positions should line up pretty damn close. If you look at the position now from last year you can see a trend developing in the last 3 months.

[link to hpiers.obspm.fr]
I had to go to combined series EOP CO4, POLHODY X/Y, and the last 365 days.

The image should be a rough circle with the two dates meeting on the circle if there is no change in declination or wobble. They are not even close. Most of the change happened last month and this month.

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Of all the kinds of posts on GLP, these that prove that people can live their whole life and never look at the sky or the horizon, and never understand the concepts of orbits and axis tilts and seasons, are the most retarded.

If you can't even dig why the days get longer in the summer and shorter in the winter, how can you understand ANYTHING?
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Just like the people who hate Daylight Savings Time, because they believe the extra hour of sunlight will burn their lawns!
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Re: >>>>>The Sun is in the Wrong Location !!!!! PROOF SUN SETS IN NORTHWEST NOW/// ----> is this normal??????
Link shows a WOBBLE graph from 2006 (no wobble) to the present.



[link to hpiers.obspm.fr]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275013


No wobble?

If there was no wobble the 2010 and 2011 pole positions should line up pretty damn close. If you look at the position now from last year you can see a trend developing in the last 3 months.

[link to hpiers.obspm.fr]
I had to go to combined series EOP CO4, POLHODY X/Y, and the last 365 days.

The image should be a rough circle with the two dates meeting on the circle if there is no change in declination or wobble. They are not even close. Most of the change happened last month and this month.
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So how close is this morning's position at the end of the spiral from last year's position at the other end?

The X co-ordinate shifted ~ 10 mas toward the Greenwich Meridian, while the Y co-ordinate shifted ~ 50 mas toward the perpendicular meridian at 90° east longitude. The distance along the hypotenuse would then also be roughly 50 milli-arc-seconds.

One degree of arc, measured from the center of the earth along a longitudinal meridian, covers approximately 60 nautical miles. One arc-minute, being one-sixtieth of that angle, would be approximately one nautical mile. And one arc-second, being one sixtieth of an arc-minute, would be approximately one sixtieth of a nautical mile, or roughly 100 feet. Multiplying by 50 gives us a positional shift on the earth's polar surface of not quite one statute mile.

If someone had stuck a flag and a GPS beacon at last year's rotational pole site, it would've drifted farther than that with the ice pack. But if the ice had stayed put, and the air were clear, the top of last-year's flagstaff would still be visible with a good pair of binoculars.

Isn't that pretty damm close?



Besides, the spiral got tighter this winter, with the biggest apparent shift occurring at the end of January rather than in March. That's not quite what I expected.
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There is no way known the sun itself has moved or the earth has tilted on it's axis.

I have to say that there have been quiet a few people being aware of the suns positon being altered. Not just on GLP.

I'm no expert but there can only be one answer that fits this scenario.
Has the eliptical path of the earth around the sun altered.
IT MIGHT HAVE GONE IN A LOWER ELIPTICAL POSITION?

Maybe it happens over time and we haven't got records that go back that far.

That is the only explanation that fits in with the sun being viewed in a different position.
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Link shows a WOBBLE graph from 2006 (no wobble) to the present.



[link to hpiers.obspm.fr]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 275013


No wobble?

If there was no wobble the 2010 and 2011 pole positions should line up pretty damn close. If you look at the position now from last year you can see a trend developing in the last 3 months.

[link to hpiers.obspm.fr]
I had to go to combined series EOP CO4, POLHODY X/Y, and the last 365 days.

The image should be a rough circle with the two dates meeting on the circle if there is no change in declination or wobble. They are not even close. Most of the change happened last month and this month.
 Quoting: onecraftydude


So how close is this morning's position at the end of the spiral from last year's position at the other end?

The X co-ordinate shifted ~ 10 mas toward the Greenwich Meridian, while the Y co-ordinate shifted ~ 50 mas toward the perpendicular meridian at 90° east longitude. The distance along the hypotenuse would then also be roughly 50 milli-arc-seconds.

One degree of arc, measured from the center of the earth along a longitudinal meridian, covers approximately 60 nautical miles. One arc-minute, being one-sixtieth of that angle, would be approximately one nautical mile. And one arc-second, being one sixtieth of an arc-minute, would be approximately one sixtieth of a nautical mile, or roughly 100 feet. Multiplying by 50 gives us a positional shift on the earth's polar surface of not quite one statute mile.

If someone had stuck a flag and a GPS beacon at last year's rotational pole site, it would've drifted farther than that with the ice pack. But if the ice had stayed put, and the air were clear, the top of last-year's flagstaff would still be visible with a good pair of binoculars.

Isn't that pretty damm close?



Besides, the spiral got tighter this winter, with the biggest apparent shift occurring at the end of January rather than in March. That's not quite what I expected.
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If you like wobble graphs, you should look at the whole record. [link to hpiers.obspm.fr] has wobble tracings going back all the way to December 1996.

So why stop at 365 days back? Try 730 days and see the spiral tightening for the last two years, or even 4383 for the last dozen years. You too might find that what you see isn't what you've been led to expect.
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LOL I live right by where he is and the sun always sets right there this time of year. This is obviously someone is trying to scare the sheep or is a complete idiot and has no idea where it is suppose to be this time of year.

Come on guys this is nothing but fear mongering to lower our immune system so that when the NWO releases the virus our bodies slurp it in like Big Gulp from 7-11 on a hot summer day. banana2
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Re: >>>>>The Sun is in the Wrong Location !!!!! PROOF SUN SETS IN NORTHWEST NOW/// ----> is this normal??????
There is no way known the sun itself has moved or the earth has tilted on it's axis.

I have to say that there have been quiet a few people being aware of the suns positon being altered. Not just on GLP.

I'm no expert but there can only be one answer that fits this scenario.
Has the eliptical path of the earth around the sun altered.
IT MIGHT HAVE GONE IN A LOWER ELIPTICAL POSITION?

Maybe it happens over time and we haven't got records that go back that far.

That is the only explanation that fits in with the sun being viewed in a different position.
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Ok now I know this is difficult for some to grasp ..but, if the sun was not setting in it's proper position all kinds of things would be FUCKED UP. Thousands of telescopes that use polaris (north star) for an alignment would not be working and they would be FREAKING OUT in mass. Also if the sun was setting any where but where it should be, any future solar eclipse paths predicted since the fucking Mayans would be off and people round the world would be FREAKING OUT.

So you idiots really need to read up on some astronomy so that maybe you don't look so fucking stupid.

But I'm sure some of you will never get it.
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You seem like a nice enough kid, just a little confused.

Go to NOAA Sunrise/Sunset Calculator and you will see the sun is right where it should be, and where it always has been this time of year.
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It did seem a bit off to me last night, but the easiest test will be on the summer solstice. Find a street that runs East- West and the sun should rise and set directly in line with the street.
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When is the summer Solsitce?

Also, is it possible to get some glp'ers, both who believe its moving and those who dont, and video the sun rising and setting on the summer solstice?

To my mind this would be the only way to provide significant evidence. When both sides have the same video either showing its not rising and setting, due east and due west on the summer solstice then we will have the proof to either prove or disprove whats occuring..

For a conspiracy site, people are sorely lacking investigative skills ..
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It does seem as if we are all living in different dimentions in the same world and each one of us has a different sun.
I am in UK and love my garden. I plant different types of veg and position od the sun is really important for a climate such as UK.
For example cuecumbers will not grow in the shade with the cold weather we are having in May now. So they have to be in a sunny position. I have allocated cartain part of the garden for different veg. I know that from a certain day in May onwards the sun will be shining on certain part of my garden be the wall. From that day onwards i bring out my cuecumbers from green house and put them outside in that position.
I can tell you this as pure fact. Cuecumbers have gone in the same position within the last 8 to 10 years. Every year the sun reaches the exact spot on the same day in May (+ or - one day). So at least for UK we have been having the same sun without any change at all.
I really don't know where you all get your info from.
You must all be living in a different world with a different sun.
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Yep. And it will move further North for one more month. It's called Summer in the Northern hemisphere.

Amazing, uh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1392879


What's even more amazing is that the days seem to be getting longer.

Has anyone noticed that it's light out until almost 9 p.m. now?? That can't be normal.

Some "experts" predict that this will only be the case until around June 21st...then the days will magically start getting shorter again.

This has now happened every summer for the last...well, for several million years, actually.

I blame HAARP...and BP.
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YOU are an idiot.

I began noticing this in the mid 1990's. In addition, the property line that runs due East and West on my woods, is now offset, and the sun sets NW from where it used to.
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I have been trying to convince my husband of this and he insists it where it is supposed to be. It is further west, even accounting for the season.
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How much further west could west get?

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It did seem a bit off to me last night, but the easiest test will be on the summer solstice. Find a street that runs East- West and the sun should rise and set directly in line with the street.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396190


When is the summer Solsitce?

Also, is it possible to get some glp'ers, both who believe its moving and those who dont, and video the sun rising and setting on the summer solstice?

To my mind this would be the only way to provide significant evidence. When both sides have the same video either showing its not rising and setting, due east and due west on the summer solstice then we will have the proof to either prove or disprove whats occuring..

For a conspiracy site, people are sorely lacking investigative skills ..
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For suntards summer solstice is February 30th

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