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**Ahmadinejad's Team Expects Arrival Of 12th Imam On June 5th**(Same Day As The Naksa Protests)

 
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you certainly won't like where this is heading to. but whatever...
in upcoming 20 years, everything will change so radically, your finite mind cannot even imagine it.
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20 Years? More like 7-10. damned
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I agree except it will start anytime now and last that long

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you certainly won't like where this is heading to. but whatever...
in upcoming 20 years, everything will change so radically, your finite mind cannot even imagine it.
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20 Years? More like 7-10. damned
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I agree except it will start anytime now and last that long
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Agreed.
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12th Imam is the Reptilian Dark Overlordmonster
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great, world peace on my birthday.

so the 12th is kinda like jesus, but not....
i dont get it
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I wish to offer my opinion concerning this by relating that this fits perfectly in line with the prophecies of the apocalypse. the false prophet who is symbolically identified as a lamb speaking with the voice of a dragon having two horns is a refrence directly to iran. i arrive at this interpretation by understanding that the symbology of revelations is derived directly from daniel 8.

Dan 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.



though the details have changed the players stay the same. in daniel the ram symbolizes the persians in revelations it symbolizes the persians. and we can further elborate that the persian false prophet will deal in witchcraft.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.


I would like to take note that ahmijendad is accused of witchcraft, which the false prophet here exercises himself in.

this "image of the beast" could be this covert emergence, which will signal the arrival of the anti-christ after three years. as with most prophecy scholars of today we don't realize that the countdown to the rapture and millenium comes not from a seven year peace treaty, but with the arrival of four people. the two witnesses, the beast, and the false prophet. the seven year peace treaty is a misunderstanding of a historic prophecy concerning antiochous epiphanes from the years 170 b.c. to 164 b.c. in which after onias III was slain AEIV punished the rival priesthood for killing the righteous man. after which at around 167 b.c. he broke the peace he had with the jews and the purging of judaism began. antiochous is typical of the ant-christ/mahdi, but the details and arrival are not the same.

now finally i would like to point out that the angel of the bottomless pit is identified with the ant-christ, first beast. take note the mahdi descendes from a well, and when the apocalypse speaks of a bottomless pit the greek word strongs g5421 pherar means quite litreally, well.

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This seems to answer my question from earlier where the Mahdi will either say he is Jesus or be Lieutenant of Satan, it seems he is just a prelude to the instead of Christ.
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
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Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
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Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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They do. That's why I think the Mahdi will be the false prophet and the one claiming to be Jesus will be the AC. He is the one that will sit on the temple mount because so many will believe that he is the son of god.
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pajamasmedia huh? WTF's WND and newsmax???

lmao neocon horseshitter!!! lol
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
 Quoting: Godsontoo


Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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They do. That's why I think the Mahdi will be the false prophet and the one claiming to be Jesus will be the AC. He is the one that will sit on the temple mount because so many will believe that he is the son of god.
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Ah..ok, gotcha. That makes sense. The Muslims seem to have a great deal of respect for Jesus but they must be off-base not accepting Him as the Son of God.

But what you say makes sense. The Muslims will believe they have the real Jesus on their hands teaming up with the Mahdi, but it won't be the real Jesus.

Man, I've just prayed all of my life to not be tricked in the end. I try to keep in mind that Christ will return like lightening zooming across the sky from east to west...or whatever direction it is. And it will be completely unannounced and unexpected...like a thief in the night, baby!

So I guess as long as I keep that in mind, I won't be tricked. I've never been one to go along with the crown anyway so if everyone's thinking this fake AC is Jesus, I'd be naturally skeptical anyway. This is really getting exciting. I wish my health were better. Truth is, I'm just barely hanging on and keep hanging on just so I can be here when Jesus comes. I do love Jesus!
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crown should be crowd
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
 Quoting: Godsontoo


Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 317023


They do. That's why I think the Mahdi will be the false prophet and the one claiming to be Jesus will be the AC. He is the one that will sit on the temple mount because so many will believe that he is the son of god.
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Ah..ok, gotcha. That makes sense. The Muslims seem to have a great deal of respect for Jesus but they must be off-base not accepting Him as the Son of God.

But what you say makes sense. The Muslims will believe they have the real Jesus on their hands teaming up with the Mahdi, but it won't be the real Jesus.

Man, I've just prayed all of my life to not be tricked in the end. I try to keep in mind that Christ will return like lightening zooming across the sky from east to west...or whatever direction it is. And it will be completely unannounced and unexpected...like a thief in the night, baby!

So I guess as long as I keep that in mind, I won't be tricked. I've never been one to go along with the crown anyway so if everyone's thinking this fake AC is Jesus, I'd be naturally skeptical anyway. This is really getting exciting. I wish my health were better. Truth is, I'm just barely hanging on and keep hanging on just so I can be here when Jesus comes. I do love Jesus!
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You won't be tricked follow your heart that is the where the spirit makes it's temple. Our minds are whacked but with god in our hearts all is well.
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Ahmadinejad’s Team Expects Arrival of 12th Imam … on June 5
Reports claim his team believes a covert emergence will commence on the 14th of Khordaad (June 5) in Medina, setting the stage for the announcement of the actual emergence in the next few years.


May 23, 2011 - 10:06 am - by 'Reza Kahlili' Page

Increasing tensions between Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad intensified when hardline clerics exerted pressure on Ahmadinejad to obey the supreme leader as the ultimate authority. Those tensions were exacerbated with the arrest of over 25 of Ahmadinejad’s associates and loyalists, along with a high-level member of his inner circle. Supporters of the supreme leader are referring to Ahmadinejad’s group as “The Deviant Movement.”

This “group” has announced that within the upcoming weeks a monumental event will turn the tide to their advantage.

Based on a report from Iran’s Ayandeh, one of the officials within “The Deviant Movement” has informed his confidants that certain sources close to the “Mahdi’s Emergence Movement” have stated that an important event will soon change the course of operations to Ahmadinejad’s favor. According to interpretations offered by Ahmadinejad’s team, a high-ranking member of the Islamic Republic will meet with a climactic incident. This in turn will build up to the announcement of the “covert emergence” of the Twelfth Imam (or Mahdi) in Medina, Saudi Arabia.

Hardliners critical of Ahmadinejad maintain that his team believes a covert emergence will commence on the 14th of Khordaad (June 5) in Medina, setting the stage for the announcement of the actual emergence in the next few years.

[link to pajamasmedia.com]
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well TX you didn't title the thread right! Try that one again, since you are a paid member. And BLESS that man as he is not about to give up to the "supreme leader", who is a very small man. Ahmadinejad knows the Truth TX.
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Basicly, muslims belive that the 12th Imam is gonna lead them in a great war against "kuffar" (non muslims) so now you know what Ahmadinejad is going to do with the nukes.
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Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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They do. That's why I think the Mahdi will be the false prophet and the one claiming to be Jesus will be the AC. He is the one that will sit on the temple mount because so many will believe that he is the son of god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394396



Ah..ok, gotcha. That makes sense. The Muslims seem to have a great deal of respect for Jesus but they must be off-base not accepting Him as the Son of God.

But what you say makes sense. The Muslims will believe they have the real Jesus on their hands teaming up with the Mahdi, but it won't be the real Jesus.

Man, I've just prayed all of my life to not be tricked in the end. I try to keep in mind that Christ will return like lightening zooming across the sky from east to west...or whatever direction it is. And it will be completely unannounced and unexpected...like a thief in the night, baby!

So I guess as long as I keep that in mind, I won't be tricked. I've never been one to go along with the crown anyway so if everyone's thinking this fake AC is Jesus, I'd be naturally skeptical anyway. This is really getting exciting. I wish my health were better. Truth is, I'm just barely hanging on and keep hanging on just so I can be here when Jesus comes. I do love Jesus!
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You won't be tricked follow your heart that is the where the spirit makes it's temple. Our minds are whacked but with god in our hearts all is well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394396


Amen brother, I've always believed that but you know, you're right about the mind. I do feel like mine has been under some kind of attack for awhile now.

"With God in our hearts, all is well." I like that! Thanks.
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Basicly, muslims belive that the 12th Imam is gonna lead them in a great war against "kuffar" (non muslims) so now you know what Ahmadinejad is going to do with the nukes.
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well he's sure not gonna use em as a snowcone maker tounge
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Basicly, muslims belive that the 12th Imam is gonna lead them in a great war against "kuffar" (non muslims) so now you know what Ahmadinejad is going to do with the nukes.
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well he's sure not gonna use em as a snowcone maker tounge
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lol
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We need that GLP Well-Cam!!!!!
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It says he's going to show up in a "covert emergence." What fun is that, Mahmoud? It doesn't really count if he doesn't crawl out of the well, right?

Does this so-called covert Mahdi of yours have a birth certificate. Trust but verify, ya know?
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chuckle
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Hmm, wonder how many will convert to Islam if this "prediction" comes to pass.
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Only the damned.
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bump
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Hmm, wonder how many will convert to Islam if this "prediction" comes to pass.
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Only the damned.
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bump x2
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bump x2
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you certainly won't like where this is heading to. but whatever...
in upcoming 20 years, everything will change so radically, your finite mind cannot even imagine it.
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20 Years? More like 7-10. damned
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I agree except it will start anytime now and last that long
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I agree,except I think it started this year.
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
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Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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Not the real Jesus.
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
 Quoting: Godsontoo


Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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Not the real Jesus.
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^^That
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Basicly, muslims belive that the 12th Imam is gonna lead them in a great war against "kuffar" (non muslims) so now you know what Ahmadinejad is going to do with the nukes.
 Quoting: -Freak-


Is there any chance that their perceived enemy is the same enemy that has taken over our country and controls the banks and uses the IMF and World Bank to destroy countries and create poverty, etc., etc.? Just wondering. I've met a couple of Muslims when I lived in Baltimore and they were real friendly guys and never brought up religion and certainly never tried to get me to convert to Islam. For all I know, they didn't even do the regular Muslim thing like praying 5 times a day, etc.

But it does seem like the evil they criticize is actually the same evil that I find myself criticizing. All I know is I'm sticking with Jesus and I don't like the bastards that have taken over my country, my Congress, our financial system, our media, etc.
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What's the odds of the Mahdi eventually claiming to be Jesus or do you think the Mahdi is just one of Satan's lieutenants paving the way for him to slither in.
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Actually, don't the Muslims believe that their Mahdi will team up with Jesus when He returns?
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Not the real Jesus.
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^^That
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Got it, thanks for the clarification.
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Basicly, muslims belive that the 12th Imam is gonna lead them in a great war against "kuffar" (non muslims) so now you know what Ahmadinejad is going to do with the nukes.
 Quoting: -Freak-


Is there any chance that their perceived enemy is the same enemy that has taken over our country and controls the banks and uses the IMF and World Bank to destroy countries and create poverty, etc., etc.? Just wondering. I've met a couple of Muslims when I lived in Baltimore and they were real friendly guys and never brought up religion and certainly never tried to get me to convert to Islam. For all I know, they didn't even do the regular Muslim thing like praying 5 times a day, etc.

But it does seem like the evil they criticize is actually the same evil that I find myself criticizing. All I know is I'm sticking with Jesus and I don't like the bastards that have taken over my country, my Congress, our financial system, our media, etc.
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The Jesuits in Rome??pope2

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Nice, one more date for the world to contemplate.

If not now, then. If not then, shortly. If not shortly, soon....

Wow, it's unreal! hf
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Don't let ICE see this thread ..... !!!!

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Basicly, muslims belive that the 12th Imam is gonna lead them in a great war against "kuffar" (non muslims) so now you know what Ahmadinejad is going to do with the nukes.
 Quoting: -Freak-


Is there any chance that their perceived enemy is the same enemy that has taken over our country and controls the banks and uses the IMF and World Bank to destroy countries and create poverty, etc., etc.? Just wondering. I've met a couple of Muslims when I lived in Baltimore and they were real friendly guys and never brought up religion and certainly never tried to get me to convert to Islam. For all I know, they didn't even do the regular Muslim thing like praying 5 times a day, etc.

But it does seem like the evil they criticize is actually the same evil that I find myself criticizing. All I know is I'm sticking with Jesus and I don't like the bastards that have taken over my country, my Congress, our financial system, our media, etc.
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The Jesuits in Rome??pope2
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I don't know, if they're the ones running the show from behind the scenes, then I suppose yes. But it certainly appears to be some other group that is controlling everything. Of course, that could be some kind of illusion or something. Things obviously are not as clear cut as we might hope. That's why I just trust in Jesus. The only being that I believe has never, ever told a lie.
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Don't let ICE see this thread ..... !!!!

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let me be a tad more clear on what i think the bible is saying. the mahdi will most likely be the christian anti-christ, with the persian false prophet being a type of jesus to the muslims. the two witnesses will be the anti-christ of the muslism called the dajull. the mahdi will raise an army against the witness and their converts the 144,000. i pointed out that the angel of the bottomless pit is described as arriving out of the pit. the mahdi is supposedly in occulation in a well, whether that be the jamdan well or the well beneath the kaaba. he will arise out of the well which is exactly what

Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon

this angel arises out of the bottomless pit with the locust army( note that the apocalypse mimics hebrew poetry of the ot prophets, when is speaks of locust it is using similiee and hyperbole to describe an actually human army, see book of joel to see where this symbology comes from) the angel of the bottomless pit is not the same as the star who comes out of the pit in verse 1. the star is someone or something else i don't think that there is enough information to identify who are what that is. now furthermore, the anti-christ/mahdi, will spur an army of jihadist to toture men 5 months aka. the locust army but i do not believe that he will at this time be in direct spotlight.

so let me focus in on the anti-christ. i believe that much diservice has been done to the scriptures by modern bible prophecy teachers in identifying who or what the anti-vchrist will do. this due to the fact that they have failed in properly interpreting the book of daniel. the book of daniel has only two prophetic passages that deal directly with the end times. Dan 8:23-25 and 11:40-12:13.

the rest of the prophetic passages deal with the immediate future in daniels day. they are prophetic of the final days of the persian empire, and the grecian empire as it reached its zenith under the seleucids at the reign of antiochous epiphanes. these two passages go beyond te era of 164 b.c. into describing a king who will reign as succesor to the selecuid. according to how you interpret this passage will be key to indetifuing who the antichrist is.

Dan 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at HIM: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

look at the "HIM" in capotals. this verse is tricky because you can either interpret it in to ways. either him refers to a third party just recently intorduced or it refers to the king of syria. the latter interpretation is more probable since the whole text is interchangebly describing the reigns of the king of the south and the king of north, so why introduce a third party? so knowing that the passages before 11:35 are describing antiochous epihanes and the other seulucids. this northern king who is a latter times sucessor to antiochous will defeat egypt and take control of libya and sudan. the king of the north is who ever controls syria which is the capital of the old seleucid.. even damascus which is called am sham the " northern city". so the anti-christ is a syrian or of syriac origin. this is also attested to by isaiah and micaiah who speak of the assyrian. mic 5:5, this could simply mean that he is syriac in ethnicity or even language.

now i will offend many of you, but i must. there will be no and i do mean no third temple until jesus returns in my opinion. firstly there is confusion in regard to what paul and jesus meant when describing the abomination of desolation being set up. nowhere does it say in the nt passages that the abomination of desolation in the end times stops sacrifice and offerings. that was antiouchohs epiphanes in 170 b.c. to 167 b.c.. there is no temple sacrifices in the end times because there is no temple. othrodox judaism holds that the temple will not be rebuilt by none other than messaiah himself. they will not see the anti-chridt as messiah nor be in allegiance with him. the messiah will visciously attack the jews in a plot to rid the world of them. now what of paul when he says the anti-christ exalts himself as GOD and sits in the temple of God? isn't that proof that there will be a future temple? no. i will show you that part of the temple can be considered as the temple.

Dan 9:27 And on the wing of the templehe will set up an abomination that causes desolations this refers to antiouchous epihpanes descrating the temple as does dan 11:31 and several other verse. in 11:31 it seems to show the the whole temple was descrated but instead it becomes clear that only a wing of the temple was where the actual abomination of desolation is set up. so here we read paul and what does he mean? does the whole temple have to exist for this abomination to occur. no only a wing or more specifically a wailing wall.





GLP