New FBI Files Alleging AIPAC Theft of Government Property and Israeli Espionage Released

OK, I see business-as-usual in the arena of international affairs where agents of every nation attempt to acheive a position of superiority to every other nation.

What's the education supposed to entail? This is all common knowledge among international strategic thinkers.

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Should all Jews support Israel?

Once again, Comedian, there IS such a thing as HISTORY. It can not be invented, it has to be studied, patiently, and it has to be done in an independant and honest way. Once you have done so, you will realize that modern Zionism is a pure product of the RED SHIELD family and their cronies. And unfortunately, yes, the RED SHIELD (who created and OWN the Federal Reserve System, the BIS, the IMF, and the World Bank Group) are the ABSOLUTE EPITOME of THE BANKSTER CRIMINAL NETWORK. They are the godfathers of it all.

And thanks in advance for not pulling anymore of these strawmen on me. Never have I said that all Zionist and Banksters are Jews. All evidence flies against that. There are many Jews very much against tyranny, the Fed (try Peter Schiff and his father Irwin for good examples, real heroes indeed) and the Bankster network who control most of the world's central banks and financial institutions, and also happen to control most of the illegal global trade of human beings, drugs, weapons, and such. ON RECORD.

So, no, not right, YOU FAIL. Go study and come back when you're better educated. I love your humor, and often laugh at your jokes, but i HATE your ignorance, Comedian. It is a liability to yourself and others.

I can guess:
Because you Joophobics are photocopiers. You never engage a single new video, or supply any new fact, or do anything *interesting*. You are a completely predictable one-note symphony. Same stuff over and over and over. And the 5 of you having 10 proxy IDs each doesn't make you look like a large group of 50 informed thinkers. It makes you look like 5 professional masturbaters with a sock puppet fetish.

In short, you're boring-as-hell bullshitters, and you are only interesting to each other as an echo chamber.

And that is the complete and honest truth. Do with it as you wish.

Are you purposefully dishonest, or are you just deluding yourself to the very core ?

Do you know of any nation wielding even a fraction of the power the lobby wields on US internal and foreign politics ? Do you know of any other so-called "US Ally", whose many front organizations are allowed to spy on the US government, to undermine its institutions and spy on its citizens with a private surveilance network ? Are you aware that the ADL gave a ton of documents about US Civil Rights Activists that they STOLE thanks to their agents to the Apartheid regime of South Africa ? So much for an "anti-racist" organization... I bet you're a big fan of the SPLC too...

Actually I'm a pro-Zionist Christian volunteer. I do this for personal kicks. I don't receive so much as a "Thank you" from any Zionist organizations, all though I do contribute to ZOA.

Join today!
[link to www.zoa.org]

This is what did it for me...

From Wikipedea...

Jonathan Jay Pollard (born August 7, 1954 in Galveston, Texas) is a former civilian intelligence analyst who was convicted of spying for Israel. He received a life sentence in 1987.

Israel granted Pollard citizenship in 1995, while publicly denying, until 1998, that he was an Israeli spy.[1]

Israeli activist groups, as well as high-profile Israeli politicians, have lobbied for his release.[2]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has voiced particularly strong support for Pollard, visiting the convicted spy in prison in 2002.[3][4]

Pollard's case was later linked to that of Ben-Ami Kadish, another U.S. national who pleaded guilty to charges of passing classified information to Israel in the same period.[5][6]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Like most everybody else in my age group, I would listen to arguments as to "why Israel has a right to exist." (Why would anybody have to think why a country should exist?)

Well, I still don't think there's any reason why someone should ponder why a country should exist because there are only two ways out...

1) Claim the country has a right to exist (and then be supporting that country regardless of what it engages in). Or...

2) Claim the country does not have a right to exist causing retailiation or provoking war.

Who came up with that idiot question in the first place?

Based on the above information, I came to the conclusion in the late 80's that the U.S. should not support any country that spies against it.

This information about AIPAC could not possibly be surprising to me because, long ago, I became certain of the adage "Power corrupts, absolute power power corrupts absolutely." (Lord Achton)

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I don't know. Before we can have this discussion, we have to agree on definition of terms, so please answer my question first, and feel free to clarify.

Well...you just showed us how much of an ass you really are and enjoy being.

Let's hit the high points first:

1) China is continuously pitched to the sheep as a US ally, when in fact they are the only real US adversary, and since Clinton they have been buying and stealing everything from America in terms of technology, strategy, and economics with the blessings of our treasonous government and its bankster masters.

2) I'd like to see the entire staffs of the ADL and the SPLC kill each other with flamethrowers. They are both Communist front organizations whose goals have more to do with Soviet dogma and destroying America than law, Jewish defamation, or poor people.

Does that help?

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So why are you here? Fuck off, parasite, you're stealing bandwidth from non-crazy people. I the digital sense, if I was the owner of this site, I'd digitally shoot you for trespassing.

But then you Brown Shirt cunts don't have any sense of private property, so I might as well be lecturing in philosophy to a hamster.

In other words, you are one amazingly stupid goyim.

Who was Jesus?
[link to www.noahide.com]

Your only reward for committing treason against the United States of America will be getting nailed to a cross, just like they did to the other fella.

I'm going to engage with you, because you are obviously thoughtful and not hideously illiterate. Also, you've made an excellent distinction I agree with, ie Schiffs (the family have been personal heroes of mine for decades).

And I'm asking you to clarify, so you are barred from saying "FAIL" when I am asking a question.

I really am trying to untangle the position I see all over GLP, which I unaffectionately refer to as "Nazis".

So, you assert that "Zionists" and "Jews" are not synonyms.
I agree.

One of the positions I keep seeing your side push is that there are no real Jews, that the Jews in Israel are some sort of European changeling, Ashkenazi and/or Khazar who have impersonated "real" Jews, and that these impersonators are evil.

Is this a valid description of that portion of your position?

(And for what it's worth, I am on record here as proactively celebrating the inevitable deaths of every member of the globalist bankster cartel, I don't care what race or country they belong to).

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Thanks for making it clear to everyone that you're working as un unpaid shill for the RED SHIELD criminal network, without even knowing who they are, and what they did/do/want. That's just rich. They must love people like you, who don't even realize they're shilling for the people behind the Fed and the bankster criminal network.

I have dozens of books just on the Red Shield subject, written from all perspectives, and I've read most of them. For a "balanced view", I suggest you start with Niall Ferguson. Then you can move on to read how the Zionist colony is a pure creation of "The Family", and how many lives they sacrificed, and how many wars they financed on both sides to reach their goal.

Now, I must state that as things are today, I am NOT for all Jews to be expelled from Israel. What is done is done. The creation of Israel was done on rotten grounds, in a highly hypocritical and despicable way. But I wish no harm to all the innocent Israeli living there. Many of them were born there, and they have a right to live in peace. But, having studied History and what we can learn about hidden agendas, I have to stress that our and their only hope is FOR THE RED SHIELD criminal network pulling their strings to be outed, publicly shamed, arrested, tried before the whole of Humanity (but not in the framework that they and their agents like Soros have established, i.e. the ICC) and ALL OF THEIR ASSETS, their front companies, and their frontmen, SEIZED immediately. That's a very conservative position, considering all the harm they have done all over the globe for the last two centuries and more.

Read Anthony Sutton to discover how Red Shield-backed Wall Street financed Hitler and The Soviets. Read Edwin Black to learn how Red Shield-backed IBM conceived the Hollerith, the Nazis used for the census and deportation of the target populations for their concentration camps (hint: not a banker's hair - i.e. Warburg - was touched). Read the annals of the Versailles Treaty - much more precise references coming your way tonight if you're really interested - to discover how the cartellization of the German Industry - which originated such nazi-backing monsters as I.G. Farben - was ENTIRELY a Rockefeller-RED SHIELD operation. How their factories were NEVER bombed, and how they got ALL THEIR ASSETS back after WWII, with interest, and the engineers who worked for them in Germany were brought to the US. How their German operators got, in the worst case, a slap on their hands at Nuremberg.

Business as usual ? Me Not Think So. And if that was really BAU, why are you supporting the criminals behind the Fed, Madoff, and so many other scams ?

You think our arguments are lacking ground ? Think again.

Ouch, that's quite a coherent and non-stupid refutation of Christianity from a Tulmudic POV.

I haven't had time to study Shlomo Sand's position, the Historical record and genetic profiling of Ashkenazi Jews to be able to say anything conclusive about the matter. The Khazar kindgom existed, and its population converted massively to Judaism, that is a fact. But I can't yet say if there is truth to what some say about most of today's Ashkenazim being descendants of the Khazar. I consider this a secondary, ultimately divisive issue, as I wish no one any harm based on its genetic makeup. I wish the BANKSTERS (RED SHIELD network) MUCH HARM as a repayment for all their crimes, and the sorry state of the world, in which my studies have led me to conclude that they played a major role, within and outside of their secretive corruption networks, elitist families, and so on. These things exist. If you look hard enough (not for long), and investigate honestly, you'll know in your heart that things are much more complicated that they seem. And you'll be overwhelmed. As I was, being a neocon from 2001 to 2007. And then I discovered the Fed, who was behind it, and so many things I had started studying before suddenly made a lot more sense...

You must think you are smart but in reality you are really one dumb fuck! Sad....

Not "just", I posted this thread in April:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

^ See, this is the level of intellect I've come to expect from you Joophobics ^

And having professed yourself to be one of those despised Christians, what do you do now.

Your heroes hate you. Your heroes think your god is a witch, and a servant of Satan.

Your heroes think you deserve to be put to death for worshiping a false god.

And you support these people.

Not only are you a traitor to your country, you are self admitted traitor to your own god.

Um, no.
That website is the product of a single individual, or group which itself is a tiny subsection ( [link to www.noahide.com] of a tiny subsection (Hasidic Gentiles?) of a small religion (Judaism), and I see no reason to artificially enlarge the perceived intersectional set of individuals who are:
A) Jewish
B) Hasidic
C) Subscribers to the belief in the thoughts expressed on [link to www.noahide.com]

I mean really, dude, that site is probably one angry fake rabbi.

Now I know that Jews see Christians (silly heresy) in a less favorable light than, say, Christians see Jews (incomplete and blind).

But this is a theological difference which indicts neither Jews nor Zionists.

Who Was Jesus?

The Bible gave a warning about a dangerous, false prophet who would arise to test our faith in G-d. In Deuteronomy 13, G-d describes this false prophet as a member of the Jewish people (v. 2, 7) who would tell true prophecies and would have the power of miracles. G-d Himself would give this false prophet the power to perform miracles and reveal prophecy, but the false prophet would try to seduce the people away from G-d's Law and towards strange gods unknown to Judaism. The purpose would be to test whether we are truly committed to living under the Law, or whether we will be dazzled and fall for the temptation to join a false path to salvation (v. 3-6, 7-8, 11). In this Biblical passage, G-d repeatedly commands the Jews to kill this false prophet, lest the evil spread and destroy many souls.

To be accepted by the people, the false prophet would sometimes pretend to be a righteous Jew who fulfills the Law, but at key moments he would turn against certain details of the Law in order to make the breach (v. 6, 7). This is the reason that verse 1 commands us not to add or subtract any details from the Law, and verse 5 warns us to remain steadfast with all the traditions of the Law.

In Deuteronomy 17, this false prophet is also described as someone who would rebel against the authority of the judges of the Jewish people, and who should be put to death for his rebelliousness (v. 8-13, esp. v. 12). Who are the judges? The highest court in Israel was the Sanhedrin, which was established by Moses (Exodus 18:13-26; Numbers 11:16-29), and which lasted more than 15 centuries. The members of the Sanhedrin were the rabbis known as "Pharisees" (Pirushim, "those with the explanation"). G-d gave permanent authority to these judges to interpret the Law and G-d's Word, and it is a commandment to follow their decisions without turning even slightly to the right or the left (Deut. 17:11). But the false prophet would challenge the authority of the Sanhedrin, thus revealing himself to be an evil man.

In the book of the prophet Daniel, this false prophet is described as a king (the eleventh horn on a terrible beast) who would wage war against the Jews (the "holy ones"; see Deut. 14:2 on this term) and would change the Law including the calendar and the holidays (Daniel 7:8, 20-25). Elsewhere, this false prophet is described as a king who would disregard the G-d of his fathers, exalting himself as a god and giving honor to this new god-head (Daniel 11:36-39).

The man known today as "Jesus" fulfilled all these prophecies. He became a "king" (over the Christian church) who changed the original Law, doing away with the Hebrew calendar and the Biblical holidays (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Sukkos the Festival of Tabernacles, Passover, etc.). He disregarded the one, infinite G-d of the Hebrew Bible in favor of a new "trinity" that included himself. And he repeatedly broke the Law by committing terrible sins, while openly challenging the G-d-given authority of the rabbis of the Sanhedrin.

Naturally, Jesus did sometimes pretend to respect the Law, but whenever he thought he could get away with it, he turned right around and broke that same Law. In Matthew 5:17-19, he declared that he came to fulfill the Law, and in Matthew 23:1-3 he defended the authority of the rabbis. But the rest of the time, he rebelled against the Law—thus showing that his occasional words of piety were meant only to hide his evil agenda. The following sins of Jesus are recorded in the "New Testament":

Jesus repudiated the laws of kosher food (Mark 7:18-19). [Compare this to the prophet Daniel's strict adherence to kashrus, in Daniel chapter 1.]
He repudiated the laws of honoring one's parents, and called on his followers to hate their parents; he also dishonored his own mother (Matthew 10:34-36; Matthew 12:46-50; Luke 14:26).
He violated the Sabbath by picking grain, and incited his disciples to do the same (Matthew 12:1-8; Mark 2:23-26).
4) He again violated the Sabbath by healing a man's arm, which was not a matter of saving a life, and he openly defied the rabbis in his total repudiation of the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-13; Mark 3:1-5). [Compare this to G-d's view of violating the Sabbath, in Numbers 15:32-36, Nehemiah 10:30-32, and dozens of other places throughout the Bible.]
Jesus brazenly defied and disobeyed the rabbis of the Sanhedrin, repudiating their authority (This is recorded in many places throughout the New Testament, but look especially at Matthew 23:13-39 and John 8:44-45).

The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":

He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

The false, rebellious message of Jesus has been thoroughly rejected by the vast majority of the Jewish people, as G-d commanded. Unfortunately, however, this same message has brought a terrible darkness upon the world; today, over 1.5 billion gentiles believe in Jesus. These lost souls mistakenly think they have found salvation in Jesus; tragically, they are in for a rude awakening. Truth and eternal life are found directly from G-d, through performing His Law. Any "mediator" only separates man from G-d:

"G-d is not a man, who can lie, nor the son of man, who relents... He has not beheld iniquity in Jacob, nor has He seen perverseness in Israel" (Numbers 23:19).
Speaking prophetically of the Christian church, Moses declared, "For their 'rock' is not like our Rock... Where is their god, in whom they trusted?" (Deut. 32:31, 37).
"'See now that I, only I, am He, and there is no god with Me. I kill, and I bring to life; I wound, and I heal, and there is none who can rescue from My Hand...' Sing songs of joy, gentiles, with His people, for He will avenge the blood of His servants, and will take vengeance on His enemies, and will forgive His land and His people" (Deut. 32:39, 43).
"I, only I am Hashem (the L-rd), and besides Me there is no savior" (Isaiah 43:11).
"I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god... Is there a god besides Me? There is no rock; I do not know any" (Isaiah 44:6).
"Israel is saved in Hashem with an eternal salvation... Assemble yourselves and come, come near together, you gentiles who have escaped [the judgment]. (They have no knowledge, those who carry wooden sculptures and who pray to a god that does not save.) Announce and bring near, even take counsel together: Who declared this from ancient times, and announced it from then? Is it not I, Hashem? And there are no other gods beside Me, nor any righteous and saving god other than Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all ends of the earth, for I am G-d and there is none else. By Myself I swore, a righteous word went out of my mouth and it will not be withdrawn, that to Me every knee will bow and every tongue will swear" (Isaiah 45:17, 20-23).

What is the true key to salvation? Those who return to the Law (the Seven Commandments for the Children of Noah, according to the eternal covenant made with Noah in Genesis 9) and who assist the Jewish people (Isaiah 60, 61, 66) will be saved and will participate in the miracles and revelations, including worshipping in the Third Temple, under the kingship of the Messiah. As described in many places, including Jeremiah 16:19-21 and Zechariah 8:20-23, all the old gentile religions of the world will disappear, and their followers will turn to the Jews for spiritual leadership. Until then, Christians are spiritually blinded, and cannot yet understand G-d's wisdom in the Bible.

Ours is the last generation of the era of sin and evil and the first of the Messianic Era. Indeed, for the first time in history, there is a growing consensus of leading rabbis willing to name the man most suited to be the Messiah, and they are agreeing that he is the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The Rebbe is the spiritual leader of our generation, having boldly stirred up controversy over vital issues in which other leaders have remained tragically silent or have even caved in to the growing forces of darkness. He has upheld the Law perfectly and has worked mightily to strengthen the observance of the Law by Jews, as well as the observance of the Noachide Law by gentiles. Through his teaching of chasidus (Jewish mystical teachings, preserved from Moses and Mount Sinai), he has taught the world that G-d is One, the Infinite Who renews creation at every moment. The Rebbe is a direct descendant of King David and has received a true prophecy from G-d that we who are alive in this generation shall be the first in history to see the coming of the true messiah. Many Jews are eagerly anticipating the Rebbe's resurrection from the grave, ready to re-establish the Sanhedrin and anoint the king.

Our job is to finish preparing the way, by announcing the truth and bringing all of mankind back to the Law immediately. Through our divinely mandated efforts, we shall now clear the path for the return of the Garden of Eden and the establishment of the eternal sinless world promised by Isaiah and the other Biblical prophets.

Thanks for the link, OP. AIPAC is dangerous. The more that know, the better.

Suit yourself, pal.

You're the one who's going to have to explain all this to your god, not me. Just enjoy your bag of shiny golden shekels.

Oh yeah, that's right. Your Jew buddies aren't even paying you for committing treason. You're doing it for free. You're actually giving THEM money.

They don't call you a goyim for nothing.

great, so the clown decided to show his true colors ... gtfo israhell shill, gtfo of our country too while youre at it!

[NOTICE: I WAS BANNED AGAIN... not for saying anything racist, but for saying the truth about the actions of this criminal network. Comedian, I suspect you're not behind my banning. Now, wonder: why would they ban me from posting when I am argumentative, but I used some solid logic and references, yet let all the racist-BS spewing nazis just run around like it's 1933 ? Anyway, here's the answer I wanted to write to you, Comedia. It might be erased in the blink of an eye. If so, I hope someone gets the time to read it, and maybe save it.]

Looks I've been flagged to the point that I can no more post my answer at all.

as i said, this thread is proof positive of an israhell ran covert psyop against the american people, the clown exposed himself some time back as well as he knows their time is coming up...