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Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"

 
Anonymous Coward
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well, did anyone actually find an actual passage in the actual bill that was passed?

If so, please quote that passage and give us the page number and a link. Thank you.
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
Obama Signed the Health Care Bill on 3/23/2010 Federal Medical device registry Effective 3/23/2013

It is being sold now as being cool to get chipped

Wait until there is a national emergency, dollar collapse, false flag attck, real attack, Registry ready to track your every move...certainly the government would never do such a thing or disguise what they are really up to.

[link to eindtijdinbeeld.nl]

pg. 1004

21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection
, the Secretary shall promul23

gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations

That means the National medical device registry be established and operating by 3/23/3013


Pg 1001 - 1002


9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
(21 U.S.C. 360i) is
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry

Pg. 1002

21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety 1002
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

[link to www.fda.gov]
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
Obama Signed the Health Care Bill on 3/23/2010 Federal Medical device registry Effective 3/23/2013

It is being sold now as being cool to get chipped

Wait until there is a national emergency, dollar collapse, false flag attck, real attack, Registry ready to track your every move...certainly the government would never do such a thing or disguise what they are really up to.

[link to eindtijdinbeeld.nl]

pg. 1004

21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection
, the Secretary shall promul23

gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations

That means the National medical device registry be established and operating by 3/23/3013


Pg 1001 - 1002


9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
(21 U.S.C. 360i) is
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry

Pg. 1002

21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety 1002
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

[link to www.fda.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012


yes, that could be useful if one wanted to chip everyone to have a registry, but this is does not say that all Americans must be chipped. thank you for responding.
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05/26/2011 02:24 PM
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One reason why they did the 2010 census at your door with GPS tracker in addition to just having you fill out the form and send in
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344979


What the fucking fuck? They did what? They came to everyone's front door and noted GPS co-ords? I'm sorry bro but I'm gonna need a link for that one. That's just O_O
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1401215


Yes, they came to everyone's door and took the GPS co-ordinates.

I was here when they did it, bro. No link needed, it's well known fact.

It's a good thing my husband was here at the time to control me or the census taker would have been looking down the barrel of my .12 gauge...
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
Obama Signed the Health Care Bill on 3/23/2010 Federal Medical device registry Effective 3/23/2013

It is being sold now as being cool to get chipped

Wait until there is a national emergency, dollar collapse, false flag attck, real attack, Registry ready to track your every move...certainly the government would never do such a thing or disguise what they are really up to.

[link to eindtijdinbeeld.nl]

pg. 1004

21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection
, the Secretary shall promul23

gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations

That means the National medical device registry be established and operating by 3/23/3013


Pg 1001 - 1002


9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
(21 U.S.C. 360i) is
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry

Pg. 1002

21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety 1002
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

[link to www.fda.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012



You people really are paranoid aren't you?


You also really can't read can you? Oh, how the schools have failed you!
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They're going to find it difficult to implant, because the recoil from my rifle will be making it impossible for me to hold still.
 Quoting: Comedian


+1 million

lol

peace
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05/26/2011 02:42 PM
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
Obama Signed the Health Care Bill on 3/23/2010 Federal Medical device registry Effective 3/23/2013

It is being sold now as being cool to get chipped

Wait until there is a national emergency, dollar collapse, false flag attck, real attack, Registry ready to track your every move...certainly the government would never do such a thing or disguise what they are really up to.

[link to eindtijdinbeeld.nl]

pg. 1004

21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection
, the Secretary shall promul23

gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations

That means the National medical device registry be established and operating by 3/23/3013


Pg 1001 - 1002


9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
(21 U.S.C. 360i) is
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry

Pg. 1002

21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety 1002
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

[link to www.fda.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012



You people really are paranoid aren't you?


You also really can't read can you? Oh, how the schools have failed you!
 Quoting: CriticalThought


could you be a litte more specific about my/ our paranoia

where did i go beyond what the bill says, or what the government is capable of doing.

and just because someone is paranoid, that doesn't mean there isn't a luciferian de-population agenda already in progress

flouride - radium - sterilents in vaccines - on and on and on

It is called 'REALITY', something you deny

so tell us why should we trust the government when they have the power to enact draconian measures against the people.

enlighten us , critical thinker 101
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05/26/2011 02:52 PM
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
One reason why they did the 2010 census at your door with GPS tracker in addition to just having you fill out the form and send in
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1344979


What the fucking fuck? They did what? They came to everyone's front door and noted GPS co-ords? I'm sorry bro but I'm gonna need a link for that one. That's just O_O
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1401215


[link to www.wnd.com]

I called BS too but.. it isn't

BTW it took me like 3 seconds to pull a link up for that

you lazy bastard
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
This is beyond Old News...

2009 Link
Thread: OBAMACARE = RFID CHIP
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05/26/2011 03:26 PM
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This is my country and I will not be leaving it nor will I be chipped like a farm animal.
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I guarantee that Obama could openly state in a national address "I plan to implant RFID chips in all citizens in order to protect us from (identity theft, terror, etc.)" and he'd still get close to half the popular vote.

Sadly, he WILL be reelected. It's all staged, just like in the past. The GOP will put forth another campaign just like McCain/Palin and hand a second term over to Obama. He will be the last "President of the United States of America".
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[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Thank you.

HR 3590.

Posted mysterious page 503 of 3590 and when it didn't confirm the wingnuts claims they tried saying it was the wrong bill. lol.
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
Obama Signed the Health Care Bill on 3/23/2010 Federal Medical device registry Effective 3/23/2013

It is being sold now as being cool to get chipped

Wait until there is a national emergency, dollar collapse, false flag attck, real attack, Registry ready to track your every move...certainly the government would never do such a thing or disguise what they are really up to.

[link to eindtijdinbeeld.nl]

pg. 1004

21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection
, the Secretary shall promul23

gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations

That means the National medical device registry be established and operating by 3/23/3013


Pg 1001 - 1002


9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
(21 U.S.C. 360i) is
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry

Pg. 1002

21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety 1002
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

[link to www.fda.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012



You people really are paranoid aren't you?


You also really can't read can you? Oh, how the schools have failed you!
 Quoting: CriticalThought


could you be a litte more specific about my/ our paranoia

where did i go beyond what the bill says, or what the government is capable of doing.

and just because someone is paranoid, that doesn't mean there isn't a luciferian de-population agenda already in progress

flouride - radium - sterilents in vaccines - on and on and on

It is called 'REALITY', something you deny

so tell us why should we trust the government when they have the power to enact draconian measures against the people.

enlighten us , critical thinker 101
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012


Well first of all...you go way beyond what the bill says when you start talking about flouride, radium, sterilents, luciferian de-population. Could you show me that in the bill?

Let's take one example - vaccines. The original paper that started the vaccine scare was a fraud. But one example: [link to www.cbsnews.com] Countless studies have confirmed this. You're still going on about vaccines.

Where is your proof, hell where is your evidence?


By the way...very poor straw man argument. I never said or suggested that you, I or anyone else should trust the government.

Typical sheeple-shill move...no facts, no capacity to make an intellectual argument so muddy the issue, set up a straw man argument to make yourself look good...about one step away from outright name calling.

Yeah "REALITY" ... before you start accusing others of denying reality you might want to make sure you can back up claims of "luciferian de-population agendas already in progress." Seriously, are you just another religious nut or do you spend all day beating off to Glenn Beck?

Last Edited by CriticalThought on 05/26/2011 03:42 PM
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IT IS MUCH WORSE

1: They have developed a blood test for cancer [link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

2: In all reality, we all get cancer every day, thus this will detect Cancer in all but the absolute healthiest youngest people

3: Most of those people would never have gotten Cancer anyway

4: However, Fukushima basically guarantees we all have some detectable cancer levels in our bodies

5: You will be on mandatory Insurance

6: Cancer will of course be a "reason" to chip you

7: If you reproduce you have no escape because you will be mandated to have insurance for your kids and they wont insure your kids anymore unless you have insurance too

8: Say hi to eternal slavery kept alive in a torturous state always paying into the system monthly, monitored and controlled
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. He will be the last "President of the United States of America".
 Quoting: Unknown Subject


That is scary...with the way things are going its probably true
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The most important realization...EVER.

The seal on Obama's short form COLB was not raised and embossed, after all. It's stunning.

The media and obots called anyone who questioned the first COLB a racist because they said Obama's short form COLB had a raised seal like the law requires. Turns out THEY were wrong.

It doesn't!

It's a debossed, lowered seal and Factcheck.org took a photo of the back of it IN REVERSE and captioned it as being a 'raised seal.'

It was an illusion.

Every. Fucking. Person. Fell for it.

Genius. This is a MUST-READ.

[link to obamasgarden.wordpress.com]
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So Obama will have us all chipped and tagged, so we do belong to him then?
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Re: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants"
Obama Signed the Health Care Bill on 3/23/2010 Federal Medical device registry Effective 3/23/2013

It is being sold now as being cool to get chipped

Wait until there is a national emergency, dollar collapse, false flag attck, real attack, Registry ready to track your every move...certainly the government would never do such a thing or disguise what they are really up to.

[link to eindtijdinbeeld.nl]

pg. 1004

21 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the
22 enactment of this subsection
, the Secretary shall promul23

gate regulations for establishment and operation of the
24 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations

That means the National medical device registry be established and operating by 3/23/3013


Pg 1001 - 1002


9 Subtitle C—National Medical
10 Device Registry
11 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY.
12 (a) REGISTRY.—
13 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal
14 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
(21 U.S.C. 360i) is
20 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry

Pg. 1002

21 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med22
ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the
23 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety 1002
1 ‘‘(B) is—
2 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or
3 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable,

[link to www.fda.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012



You people really are paranoid aren't you?


You also really can't read can you? Oh, how the schools have failed you!
 Quoting: CriticalThought


could you be a litte more specific about my/ our paranoia

where did i go beyond what the bill says, or what the government is capable of doing.

and just because someone is paranoid, that doesn't mean there isn't a luciferian de-population agenda already in progress

flouride - radium - sterilents in vaccines - on and on and on

It is called 'REALITY', something you deny

so tell us why should we trust the government when they have the power to enact draconian measures against the people.

enlighten us , critical thinker 101
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012


Well first of all...you go way beyond what the bill says when you start talking about flouride, radium, sterilents, luciferian de-population. Could you show me that in the bill?

Let's take one example - vaccines. The original paper that started the vaccine scare was a fraud. But one example: [link to www.cbsnews.com] Countless studies have confirmed this. You're still going on about vaccines.

Where is your proof, hell where is your evidence?


By the way...very poor straw man argument. I never said or suggested that you, I or anyone else should trust the government.

Typical sheeple-shill move...no facts, no capacity to make an intellectual argument so muddy the issue, set up a straw man argument to make yourself look good...about one step away from outright name calling.

Yeah "REALITY" ... before you start accusing others of denying reality you might want to make sure you can back up claims of "luciferian de-population agendas already in progress." Seriously, are you just another religious nut or do you spend all day beating off to Glenn Beck?
 Quoting: CriticalThought


Urrrrhm

Lay off the guy

I am sure within the body politic and the public a Million reasons for all of this as "helping" could be defined

But the bottom line and I say this as an ex Biologist, Modern Medicine sucks ass... Cancer treatment sucks ass, Most of my friends who are doctors are just ass holes like anyone else, I get high with these guys They are mainly more about money than continued education

and no, Armageddon or the rest aside..I would NEVER want any typical appointed half ass physician or hospital staff making decisions FOR ME in regards to my health

Now

Is that real for most Americans... NO

Most Americans are retarded and would be better off listening to their doc, 95% of the time...

I however study everyday and prefer to make my own choices and these bills are very, very intimidating to me

Particularly as I posted above, in regards to cancer which i think holds the highest potential to see me stuck on tubes and poisoned for no reason what so ever

the next is the simple fact of life... LET ME DIE IF I WANT TO

My grandfather always called MD's practitioners...because they Practice on you

He lived to the age of 97, his 2 sisters, 102 and 104 respectively, all died of natural causes in their sleep

I prefer my route, I don't want their help on the particular issue of cancer which I believe I can avoid simply by following their methods... Low caloric intake and a lot of daily sweat

If I did get it..I want to tackle it myself

My Mother who was an idiot smoker... spent 5 years on forms of support slowly cut to pieces over time and irradiated

I don't want that

It ate my families money to the bone, this will likely given toxicity in our environment be the END of inherited wealth

I don't think the system has any goal other than draining those with money of it quite frankly and that somewhere in here is entrapment for finance

Like all things

even if the "chipping" is skewed just like our constitution and civil liberties over time reason after reason WILL be found to mandate the chips... by LAW

It might take 20-30 years, but we will all find ourselves with these chips if we don't ACT to impose laws that would prevent this NOW

and... again as a Biologist I would like to make ONE singular point


There IS already a cure for Cancer...

YOU

In every single study ever done... there is ALWAYS a degree be it 2% or 10% of Placebo effect

In other words a drug is Tested... it works for 63% of people for example, the other half of the control group gets a Placebo and...16% cure cancer or whatever too

hrrrrrrrmmmm

In other words, the MIND can cure anything if it BELIEVES

while drugs and treatments come and go...

The PLACEBO effect is constant, I don't know of any study EVER in which some portion of the hopeful Placebo group did not find some people cured

so

I know my Mind and belief system and... I'd prefer they NEVER FUCK WITH MY HEALTH by any form of mandate EVER
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[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Thank you.

HR 3590.

Posted mysterious page 503 of 3590 and when it didn't confirm the wingnuts claims they tried saying it was the wrong bill. lol.
 Quoting: CriticalThought


I'm all for pointing stuff out that are NOT in our interests, but this is BS.

FYI though, I did see the original health care bill that WAS completely thrown out and rewritten to its current state. That original bill DID have the RFID related subject matter in there. I do not know where the original copy that was thrown out long ago actually is...maybe it simply isn't anywhere OR it is the copy we are all seeing right now plastered all over this thread and the internet.
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...



You people really are paranoid aren't you?


You also really can't read can you? Oh, how the schools have failed you!
 Quoting: CriticalThought


could you be a litte more specific about my/ our paranoia

where did i go beyond what the bill says, or what the government is capable of doing.

and just because someone is paranoid, that doesn't mean there isn't a luciferian de-population agenda already in progress

flouride - radium - sterilents in vaccines - on and on and on

It is called 'REALITY', something you deny

so tell us why should we trust the government when they have the power to enact draconian measures against the people.

enlighten us , critical thinker 101
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012


Well first of all...you go way beyond what the bill says when you start talking about flouride, radium, sterilents, luciferian de-population. Could you show me that in the bill?

Let's take one example - vaccines. The original paper that started the vaccine scare was a fraud. But one example: [link to www.cbsnews.com] Countless studies have confirmed this. You're still going on about vaccines.

Where is your proof, hell where is your evidence?


By the way...very poor straw man argument. I never said or suggested that you, I or anyone else should trust the government.

Typical sheeple-shill move...no facts, no capacity to make an intellectual argument so muddy the issue, set up a straw man argument to make yourself look good...about one step away from outright name calling.

Yeah "REALITY" ... before you start accusing others of denying reality you might want to make sure you can back up claims of "luciferian de-population agendas already in progress." Seriously, are you just another religious nut or do you spend all day beating off to Glenn Beck?
 Quoting: CriticalThought


Urrrrhm

Lay off the guy

I am sure within the body politic and the public a Million reasons for all of this as "helping" could be defined

But the bottom line and I say this as an ex Biologist, Modern Medicine sucks ass... Cancer treatment sucks ass, Most of my friends who are doctors are just ass holes like anyone else, I get high with these guys They are mainly more about money than continued education

and no, Armageddon or the rest aside..I would NEVER want any typical appointed half ass physician or hospital staff making decisions FOR ME in regards to my health

Now

Is that real for most Americans... NO

Most Americans are retarded and would be better off listening to their doc, 95% of the time...

I however study everyday and prefer to make my own choices and these bills are very, very intimidating to me

Particularly as I posted above, in regards to cancer which i think holds the highest potential to see me stuck on tubes and poisoned for no reason what so ever

the next is the simple fact of life... LET ME DIE IF I WANT TO

My grandfather always called MD's practitioners...because they Practice on you

He lived to the age of 97, his 2 sisters, 102 and 104 respectively, all died of natural causes in their sleep

I prefer my route, I don't want their help on the particular issue of cancer which I believe I can avoid simply by following their methods... Low caloric intake and a lot of daily sweat

If I did get it..I want to tackle it myself

My Mother who was an idiot smoker... spent 5 years on forms of support slowly cut to pieces over time and irradiated

I don't want that

It ate my families money to the bone, this will likely given toxicity in our environment be the END of inherited wealth

I don't think the system has any goal other than draining those with money of it quite frankly and that somewhere in here is entrapment for finance

Like all things

even if the "chipping" is skewed just like our constitution and civil liberties over time reason after reason WILL be found to mandate the chips... by LAW

It might take 20-30 years, but we will all find ourselves with these chips if we don't ACT to impose laws that would prevent this NOW

and... again as a Biologist I would like to make ONE singular point


There IS already a cure for Cancer...

YOU

In every single study ever done... there is ALWAYS a degree be it 2% or 10% of Placebo effect

In other words a drug is Tested... it works for 63% of people for example, the other half of the control group gets a Placebo and...16% cure cancer or whatever too

hrrrrrrrmmmm

In other words, the MIND can cure anything if it BELIEVES

while drugs and treatments come and go...

The PLACEBO effect is constant, I don't know of any study EVER in which some portion of the hopeful Placebo group did not find some people cured

so

I know my Mind and belief system and... I'd prefer they NEVER FUCK WITH MY HEALTH by any form of mandate EVER
 Quoting: superdave


Superdave...I quite like your thoughts on the subject and the way you expressed them.

People should listen to their medical doctors, by all means try other things as well but do your research.


My real beef is that there used to be forums where people actually presented evidence for what they believed, or at least a well thought out argument/presentation. Now...someone says anything...no facts...it gets pinned and the paranoid sheeple start saying yup, yup, yup. This thread is the perfect example...countless people have debunked it and the folds making the claim have yet to produce evidence of mandatory microchipping. Americans are dumb. It's not the powers that be who are the problem...it's Joe Q Citizen.
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[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


my bad, looks like the ammended version if that is the actual final draft, it does not have the same registry provisions as it did, still nothing changes, the registry requirements are with the FDA.

From pg. 745 is the only mention of class ii devices and no mention of registry for such, that i can find

(1) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘‘medical device sales’’ means
sales for use in the United States of any medical device, other
than the sales of a medical device that—
(A) has been classified in class II under section 513 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.

pg. 746

(3) MEDICAL DEVICE.—For purposes of paragraph (1), the
term ‘‘medical device’’ means any device (as defined in section
201(h) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.
321(h))) intended for humans.

searched section 513
of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.)

[link to www.medcitynews.com]

SEC. 513. [21 USC §360c] Classification of Devices Intended for Human Use; Device Classes

Prepared by:
Eastern Research Group, Inc.
110 Hartwell Avenue
Lexington, MA 02421


March 22, 2006

The health care bill signed 3/22/2010

[link to www.fda.gov]

SECTION FIVE CONCLUSIONS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL GOVERNMENT
ROLE IN UNIQUE DEVICE IDENTIFICATION

05/25/2011
Eastern Research Group, Inc. Wins $6,291,470 Federal Modification Contract for Research and Development Services

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[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Thank you.

HR 3590.

Posted mysterious page 503 of 3590 and when it didn't confirm the wingnuts claims they tried saying it was the wrong bill. lol.
 Quoting: CriticalThought


I'm all for pointing stuff out that are NOT in our interests, but this is BS.

FYI though, I did see the original health care bill that WAS completely thrown out and rewritten to its current state. That original bill DID have the RFID related subject matter in there. I do not know where the original copy that was thrown out long ago actually is...maybe it simply isn't anywhere OR it is the copy we are all seeing right now plastered all over this thread and the internet.
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Yeah, EVERY bill goes through that process.


And those DRAFTS are available. Which one are you looking for, maybe there was something RFID related in one of them:

HR 3962 Affordable Health Care for America Act (Unsuccessful)

HR 4872 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act
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[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


my bad, looks like the ammended version if that is the actual final draft, it does not have the same registry provisions as it did, still nothing changes, the registry requirements are with the FDA.

From pg. 745 is the only mention of class ii devices and no mention of registry for such, that i can find

(1) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘‘medical device sales’’ means
sales for use in the United States of any medical device, other
than the sales of a medical device that—
(A) has been classified in class II under section 513 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.

pg. 746

(3) MEDICAL DEVICE.—For purposes of paragraph (1), the
term ‘‘medical device’’ means any device (as defined in section
201(h) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.
321(h))) intended for humans.

searched section 513
of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.)

[link to www.medcitynews.com]

SEC. 513. [21 USC §360c] Classification of Devices Intended for Human Use; Device Classes

Prepared by:
Eastern Research Group, Inc.
110 Hartwell Avenue
Lexington, MA 02421


March 22, 2006

The health care bill signed 3/22/2010

[link to www.fda.gov]

SECTION FIVE CONCLUSIONS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL GOVERNMENT
ROLE IN UNIQUE DEVICE IDENTIFICATION

05/25/2011
Eastern Research Group, Inc. Wins $6,291,470 Federal Modification Contract for Research and Development Services

a1 b2 c3 - z26

sixteen hundred pennsylvania 322

military industrial complex 322

Solar Cycle 24 - Flare X 2.2 sunspot 1158 Location: S20W15

south twenty west fifteen 322

pro-democracy demonstrations 322

Georgia Guidestones christened 3/22/1980



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012


Thank you for that rambling bit of nonsense centered around "22"

Unfortunately, the health care bill wasn't signed on the 22nd.

So much for your research. So much for your Gematria.

The President signed it into law on March 23.

Not the 22.

Neither the House nor the Senate passed the bill on the 22.

22 has nothing to do with this.

You freaks don't even get the most basic facts right!!!

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[link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov]

Above is the actual text of the actual bill that passed.

It is from this site: [link to www.govtrack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Thank you.

HR 3590.

Posted mysterious page 503 of 3590 and when it didn't confirm the wingnuts claims they tried saying it was the wrong bill. lol.
 Quoting: CriticalThought


I'm all for pointing stuff out that are NOT in our interests, but this is BS.

FYI though, I did see the original health care bill that WAS completely thrown out and rewritten to its current state. That original bill DID have the RFID related subject matter in there. I do not know where the original copy that was thrown out long ago actually is...maybe it simply isn't anywhere OR it is the copy we are all seeing right now plastered all over this thread and the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178



Yeah, EVERY bill goes through that process.


And those DRAFTS are available. Which one are you looking for, maybe there was something RFID related in one of them:

HR 3962 Affordable Health Care for America Act (Unsuccessful)

HR 4872 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act
 Quoting: CriticalThought


Thanks for the help.
I'm not sure what the old bill was actually called.
I do know that it was rewritten.
It's not as important as what truly IS.
So, I will focus on that for now.
Thanks again.
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Thank you.

HR 3590.

Posted mysterious page 503 of 3590 and when it didn't confirm the wingnuts claims they tried saying it was the wrong bill. lol.
 Quoting: CriticalThought


I'm all for pointing stuff out that are NOT in our interests, but this is BS.

FYI though, I did see the original health care bill that WAS completely thrown out and rewritten to its current state. That original bill DID have the RFID related subject matter in there. I do not know where the original copy that was thrown out long ago actually is...maybe it simply isn't anywhere OR it is the copy we are all seeing right now plastered all over this thread and the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178



Yeah, EVERY bill goes through that process.


And those DRAFTS are available. Which one are you looking for, maybe there was something RFID related in one of them:

HR 3962 Affordable Health Care for America Act (Unsuccessful)

HR 4872 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act
 Quoting: CriticalThought


Thanks for the help.
I'm not sure what the old bill was actually called.
I do know that it was rewritten.
It's not as important as what truly IS.
So, I will focus on that for now.
Thanks again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Not problem. Like I said if you find something RFID related in an earlier draft post it for us.

I don't remember where but I know earlier versions of bills are available. I think it's a dot gov site but not sure.
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I'm all for pointing stuff out that are NOT in our interests, but this is BS.

FYI though, I did see the original health care bill that WAS completely thrown out and rewritten to its current state. That original bill DID have the RFID related subject matter in there. I do not know where the original copy that was thrown out long ago actually is...maybe it simply isn't anywhere OR it is the copy we are all seeing right now plastered all over this thread and the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178



Yeah, EVERY bill goes through that process.


And those DRAFTS are available. Which one are you looking for, maybe there was something RFID related in one of them:

HR 3962 Affordable Health Care for America Act (Unsuccessful)

HR 4872 Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act
 Quoting: CriticalThought


Thanks for the help.
I'm not sure what the old bill was actually called.
I do know that it was rewritten.
It's not as important as what truly IS.
So, I will focus on that for now.
Thanks again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Not problem. Like I said if you find something RFID related in an earlier draft post it for us.

I don't remember where but I know earlier versions of bills are available. I think it's a dot gov site but not sure.
 Quoting: CriticalThought


Ok...I found it in the second one, HR 4872, on page 1014.
All I did was search for the word "implantable" and that would be the section 2521 they are all referencing.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


my bad, looks like the ammended version if that is the actual final draft, it does not have the same registry provisions as it did, still nothing changes, the registry requirements are with the FDA.

From pg. 745 is the only mention of class ii devices and no mention of registry for such, that i can find

(1) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘‘medical device sales’’ means
sales for use in the United States of any medical device, other
than the sales of a medical device that—
(A) has been classified in class II under section 513 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.

pg. 746

(3) MEDICAL DEVICE.—For purposes of paragraph (1), the
term ‘‘medical device’’ means any device (as defined in section
201(h) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.
321(h))) intended for humans.

searched section 513
of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C.)

[link to www.medcitynews.com]

SEC. 513. [21 USC §360c] Classification of Devices Intended for Human Use; Device Classes

Prepared by:
Eastern Research Group, Inc.
110 Hartwell Avenue
Lexington, MA 02421


March 22, 2006

The health care bill signed 3/22/2010

[link to www.fda.gov]

SECTION FIVE CONCLUSIONS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL GOVERNMENT
ROLE IN UNIQUE DEVICE IDENTIFICATION

05/25/2011
Eastern Research Group, Inc. Wins $6,291,470 Federal Modification Contract for Research and Development Services

a1 b2 c3 - z26

sixteen hundred pennsylvania 322

military industrial complex 322

Solar Cycle 24 - Flare X 2.2 sunspot 1158 Location: S20W15

south twenty west fifteen 322

pro-democracy demonstrations 322

Georgia Guidestones christened 3/22/1980



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370012


Thank you for that rambling bit of nonsense centered around "22"

Unfortunately, the health care bill wasn't signed on the 22nd.

So much for your research. So much for your Gematria.

The President signed it into law on March 23.

Not the 22.

Neither the House nor the Senate passed the bill on the 22.

22 has nothing to do with this.

You freaks don't even get the most basic facts right!!!
 Quoting: CriticalThought


actually what i mixed up is something i posted earlier in this thread, where i have the signing date correct 3/23, it is 1260 days from the day obama was given a prize on 10/09/2009 until 3/22/2013

the 1260 day being the Point, considering its significance in the scripture.

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one thousand two hundred sixty = 365

10/09/2009 BHO awarded nobel peace prize

October ninth two thousand nine = 345

345th vs. "Genesis 14:8 fourteen eight = 231

Vs. where the white horse rider is given prize "Revelation 6:2 six two =231

gematria obama's acceptance speech 231662

this is just the beginning, so, yes i mixed up what i already posted, you really have no idea how deep this goes, no idea.

[link to hoshanarabbah2009.blogspot.com]

far beyond the health care bill
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I just read back on this, and checked the source and I must say... YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!

Nowhere does it say anything like this, you just don't know how to read professional documents...

The Class II implantable device includes many things but HR 3200 Section 2521, Pg. 1001, paragraph 1 says "a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining"... This is talking about many things, including RFID that is currently in use but it doesn't talk anywhere about implanting the populous--this is mostly talking about things like artificial body parts, pace-makers, ventilators, etc, etc...

... Later on it DOES SAY: "encourage, as appropriate, the development and use of clinical registries and the development of clinical effectiveness research data networks from electronic health records, post marketing drug and medical device surveillance efforts"...

... But again, don't twist this in your head!!!

... "DRUG AND MEDICAL DEVICE SURVEILLANCE EFFORTS" what does this mean? It means they want to keep track of their damn medical devices, and drugs, not medical surveilance devices--I've never even heard of one of those!

That whole section of H.R.3200 is about creating a better system of managing medical equipment that is sent home with patients as well as reporting on the risks and benefits of their uses!

I'm a systems analyst... Unfortunately, MARK OF THE BEAST DOOM HAS BEEN DELAYED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
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bump
Total Protonic Reversal...
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Do not take the chip/mark of the beast. Obvious who the beast is.
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Biggest deception going is that the 'beast' is a 'he' or 'him'! The 'beast' is the 'carnal spirit', the 'devil, incarnate' that rules the hearts of humanity. The writer of the book of Revelation, John, mentioned two beasts, not one! One rises up out of the 'sea', and the other rises up out of the 'earth'! The 'sea' in symbolic terms is the collective imagination of humanity joined together and ruled by the 'carnal spirit'! The 'earth' stands for all of carnally minded mankind as conscious beings who are in a constant state of conflict and spiritual revolt, given over to sublimation and perversion, controlled by the 'passions'!

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