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Whoa!! CNN Confirms That The Bible As We Know It Has Been MASSIVELY Mistranslated!!

 
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Whoa CNN is like 19th century.

we all know religious books are loads of :bs:


anyone with half a brain knows the monotheistic desert cults are fucking retarded.
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Interesting. I started reading through the Genesis translation and it doesn't really seem that different. The 'Supreme Beings' (God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit) are creating light, seperating land from water, and creating life. It sounds like cave man English, but it's lining up so far.
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The word Moses is not a person it is a group.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402181


The word Moses is an Egyptian word and it means heir or inheritot. Hence some the Pharaohs' name of TutMoses (heir of Toth).


Theologians have known this for years. Loose there jobs if they reported that.

Truman (reluctantly) gave them the palestinian land. Jews were virtually extinct and spread far and wide until then.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402181


It was no palestinian land. It was land which was previously under the control of the Otoman empire. Since the Roman destruction of Judea, never, ever, an autonomous entity existed there, only a succession of passing empires and passing nomads.

Jesus was a myth. His character was a compilation of several good teachings 150 bc.

Bible created by jews to get the romans off their backs. Monotheism caught on.
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Your chronology is VERY flawed. There was no Roman Empire when the main Hebrew texts were written.
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I basically agree with everything your saying, just didn't want to derail this into another debate entirely...

It's my belief that Moses was heading to and talking about the "New World" and my people screwed up and stayed where he died...

It's a main reason I'm not a Zionist
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Nah! Some got to Israel, some not. Portugal is an intrinsically Israelite nation. It is accepted by some here who study these things that a part of the people who came out of Egypt with Moshe headed West through North Africa and upon finding the ocean crossed the columns of Hercules and established themselves in Iberia (Ivria, land of Hebrews).

There are engraven stones here which were read as Hebrew. There is ONE unique building in the center of Portugal which has caused much debate because it shows Egyptian features. And it is situated in a region once known (up to Roman times) as Egytania. You can see several images of the building here:

[link to www.google.pt]


It is known by its Roman name of Centum Cellas.


It really looks like some Egyptian temples.
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Don't disagree with that at all... but I am talking about the intent of Moses, we could go on and on about where people scattered to from that point on.

As I read things the promises were of a very abundant barely if at all inhabited land that certainly doesn't describe anything at the time not populated in the region

Israel simply doesn't fit the bill which brings us back to knowledge of the New World which both of us seem to agree the Egyptians had...

Everything all the way to China was populated, Europe is cold in the North, you could suggest OZ or New Zealand perhaps but that is so far off the beaten path it's infinitely less probable to me

Me think the intended Holy Land, the Land of Milk and Honey... had to range from Brazil to North America

Israel certainly does not fit the bill, they had to kick a lot of ass to hold that place then as well as now
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agreed fully, Hebrew is in some ways to me very Mathematical in nature period and there is a lot to it, mainly Only Hebrew and Chinese are like this Chinese being almost more like Music and Hebrew being more like Math and it actually affects the way you think and what part of the brain you use.

Not a coincidence that these are among our oldest languages

Chinese itself is interesting it is told that during the time before Nimrod and after the flood Moses went East prior to the tower of Babel being destroyed and this is basically the Chinese origin story as well...

The Antediluvian languages were... more advanced I think than our own today
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They were more concentrated, essential, coherent like a laser is.
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The word Moses is not a person it is a group.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402181


The word Moses is an Egyptian word and it means heir or inheritot. Hence some the Pharaohs' name of TutMoses (heir of Toth).


Theologians have known this for years. Loose there jobs if they reported that.

Truman (reluctantly) gave them the palestinian land. Jews were virtually extinct and spread far and wide until then.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402181


It was no palestinian land. It was land which was previously under the control of the Otoman empire. Since the Roman destruction of Judea, never, ever, an autonomous entity existed there, only a succession of passing empires and passing nomads.

Jesus was a myth. His character was a compilation of several good teachings 150 bc.

Bible created by jews to get the romans off their backs. Monotheism caught on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402181



Your chronology is VERY flawed. There was no Roman Empire when the main Hebrew texts were written.
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wow ... you know your stuff...

That's always nice when that actually happens in here

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is thechronicleproject.org down for anyone else?
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is thechronicleproject.org down for anyone else?
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Nevermind, I clicked on a bum link
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agreed fully, Hebrew is in some ways to me very Mathematical in nature period and there is a lot to it, mainly Only Hebrew and Chinese are like this Chinese being almost more like Music and Hebrew being more like Math and it actually affects the way you think and what part of the brain you use.

Not a coincidence that these are among our oldest languages

Chinese itself is interesting it is told that during the time before Nimrod and after the flood Moses went East prior to the tower of Babel being destroyed and this is basically the Chinese origin story as well...

The Antediluvian languages were... more advanced I think than our own today
 Quoting: superdave


They were more concentrated, essential, coherent like a laser is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397295


It really can boggle the mind to think about, most of our science is a direct route upwards from Euclidean geometry yet there are...Thousands of forms of Math on which you can base a technological society, there really is in the end no way to compare or contrast what antediluvian technology was actually like the Pyramids I think can give us some clues maybe but it's very hard to say it's entering the territory of how that man built the coral castle, triangulations and systems of balance points is my guess...
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It seems to me that the person doing the writing on the website (the team bios) is the same person doing the writing that describes the translation of ancient Hebrew and he or she is a very bad writer.

The writing is atrocious and it makes me doubt the sentences they've put together in reconstructing the Bible verses.
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Well if you really no your stuff...

Than you know my sentence was a different issue.

And, you are right about Palestine...but that succession had real live people on that land....call it what you want--if you really know your stuff.
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Well if you really no your stuff...

Than you know my sentence was a different issue.

And, you are right about Palestine...but that succession had real live people on that land....call it what you want--if you really know your stuff.
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This isn't a debate about Israel vs Palestine...In reality by genome much of the worlds people if your dating back to the time of exodous are actually related very closely
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Time to re-write the history books...err....bible folks. Looks like the translators have been getting it wrong from the beginning. This is HUGE!

Think of the implications this will have on any christian based religion if confirmed. Something tells me these guys are going to dissapear ;)

"A research group in Canada, has proved that the Old Testement has been massively mistranslated.
This follows three years of research, which have uncovered the actual system for translating ancient Hebrew.
The group discovered that each letter is not a letter at all, but a full word, and what was believed to be a word, is actually a sentence like description, which supplies the definition of the word. With this discovery, each word can now be properly defined and the results are astounding."



[link to ireport.cnn.com]
 Quoting: discl0sur3 1381826


Isn't it funny how we are so quick to believe a bunch of people with an agenda but we can't believe the bible the way it has been presented to us.lolsign
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Don't disagree with that at all... but I am talking about the intent of Moses, we could go on and on about where people scattered to from that point on.

 Quoting: superdave


I don't agree. If the people didn't go to the Holy Land, there would have been no Temple and the whole world would have been different - and worse.

As I read things the promises were of a very abundant barely if at all inhabited land that certainly doesn't describe anything at the time not populated in the region

Israel simply doesn't fit the bill which brings us back to knowledge of the New World which both of us seem to agree the Egyptians had...

Everything all the way to China was populated, Europe is cold in the North, you could suggest OZ or New Zealand perhaps but that is so far off the beaten path it's infinitely less probable to me

Me think the intended Holy Land, the Land of Milk and Honey... had to range from Brazil to North America

Israel certainly does not fit the bill, they had to kick a lot of ass to hold that place then as well as now
 Quoting: superdave


We are human and humans always did that. There is not ONE single nation on world created without violence. Not ONE.

It is difficult, of course, but what do we want, a highway to Paradise?

AND you are forgetting something. Yehudah is now there in Israel, but the Tribes are out there, here, everywhere. The final congregation, before the change of this cycle, was, IS, promised and it WILL happen. We don't know how, yet. There is mistrust from both sides, but it WILL happen. Both staffs will become one again, I really trust this.

Don't be afraid to be a Zionist, in the full scale of the world, one who longs for Tsion, not what the world supposes it means. Don't you care about what this evil world says, it is on its death throws.

A new horizon will open. Both Jews and Christians will be VERY surprised, you can be sure! The Holy One is not predictable and plus He/She/It has a Great sense of humor!
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You can go to their website and download pdfs of their new translation. How come this thread says "massively mistranslated", but their new version is pretty much the same as the old version?
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They look like Witches in their picture. Nice tits though!
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They are a scary looking crew, especially the women.
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Don't you people realize that this IS the ultimate set up for a one world religion? This is prophecy being fulfilled, watch and see, watch the papacy, they are going to turn this into the standard, any many people are going to follow them!
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THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD!
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who cares. Jesus was a pagan. Following the Old Religion -- The Triple Goddess. Some day it will come out.
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Don't disagree with that at all... but I am talking about the intent of Moses, we could go on and on about where people scattered to from that point on.

 Quoting: superdave


I don't agree. If the people didn't go to the Holy Land, there would have been no Temple and the whole world would have been different - and worse.

As I read things the promises were of a very abundant barely if at all inhabited land that certainly doesn't describe anything at the time not populated in the region

Israel simply doesn't fit the bill which brings us back to knowledge of the New World which both of us seem to agree the Egyptians had...

Everything all the way to China was populated, Europe is cold in the North, you could suggest OZ or New Zealand perhaps but that is so far off the beaten path it's infinitely less probable to me

Me think the intended Holy Land, the Land of Milk and Honey... had to range from Brazil to North America

Israel certainly does not fit the bill, they had to kick a lot of ass to hold that place then as well as now
 Quoting: superdave


We are human and humans always did that. There is not ONE single nation on world created without violence. Not ONE.

It is difficult, of course, but what do we want, a highway to Paradise?

AND you are forgetting something. Yehudah is now there in Israel, but the Tribes are out there, here, everywhere. The final congregation, before the change of this cycle, was, IS, promised and it WILL happen. We don't know how, yet. There is mistrust from both sides, but it WILL happen. Both staffs will become one again, I really trust this.

Don't be afraid to be a Zionist, in the full scale of the world, one who longs for Tsion, not what the world supposes it means. Don't you care about what this evil world says, it is on its death throws.

A new horizon will open. Both Jews and Christians will be VERY surprised, you can be sure! The Holy One is not predictable and plus He/She/It has a Great sense of humor!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397295


There are three "Gods" in the first part of Genesis
The CREATOR
the "Lord Gods" that "made man in their image"
and the "Lord"...that Cain and Abel worshipped (IMO created)

I choose the CREATOR as "my God".
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agreed fully, Hebrew is in some ways to me very Mathematical in nature period and there is a lot to it, mainly Only Hebrew and Chinese are like this Chinese being almost more like Music and Hebrew being more like Math and it actually affects the way you think and what part of the brain you use.

Not a coincidence that these are among our oldest languages

Chinese itself is interesting it is told that during the time before Nimrod and after the flood Moses went East prior to the tower of Babel being destroyed and this is basically the Chinese origin story as well...

The Antediluvian languages were... more advanced I think than our own today
 Quoting: superdave


They were more concentrated, essential, coherent like a laser is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397295


It really can boggle the mind to think about, most of our science is a direct route upwards from Euclidean geometry yet there are...Thousands of forms of Math on which you can base a technological society, there really is in the end no way to compare or contrast what antediluvian technology was actually like the Pyramids I think can give us some clues maybe but it's very hard to say it's entering the territory of how that man built the coral castle, triangulations and systems of balance points is my guess...
 Quoting: superdave


The pyramids were, in all probability, silent, static machines. Polarization and conformation of space/time and, as such, human consciousness.
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Self Defining Hebrew?


LOL you guys are desperate
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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The word Moses is not a person it is a group.

Theologians have known this for years. Loose there jobs if they reported that.

Truman (reluctantly) gave them the palestinian land. Jews were virtually extinct and spread far and wide until then.

Jesus was a myth. His character was a compilation of several good teachings 150 bc.

Bible created by jews to get the romans off their backs. Monotheism caught on.
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clappa
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Time to re-write the history books...err....bible folks. Looks like the translators have been getting it wrong from the beginning. This is HUGE!

Think of the implications this will have on any christian based religion if confirmed. Something tells me these guys are going to dissapear ;)

"A research group in Canada, has proved that the Old Testement has been massively mistranslated.
This follows three years of research, which have uncovered the actual system for translating ancient Hebrew.
The group discovered that each letter is not a letter at all, but a full word, and what was believed to be a word, is actually a sentence like description, which supplies the definition of the word. With this discovery, each word can now be properly defined and the results are astounding."



[link to ireport.cnn.com]
 Quoting: discl0sur3 1381826





A research group in Canaduh?

CNN??


Obviously, very "reliable" sources... lol.

Satan is getting VERY desperate. The sad part, is that there are some people (as evidenced by the recent May 21st nonsense) that are stupid enough to take the bait.
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Don't disagree with that at all... but I am talking about the intent of Moses, we could go on and on about where people scattered to from that point on.

 Quoting: superdave


I don't agree. If the people didn't go to the Holy Land, there would have been no Temple and the whole world would have been different - and worse.

As I read things the promises were of a very abundant barely if at all inhabited land that certainly doesn't describe anything at the time not populated in the region

Israel simply doesn't fit the bill which brings us back to knowledge of the New World which both of us seem to agree the Egyptians had...

Everything all the way to China was populated, Europe is cold in the North, you could suggest OZ or New Zealand perhaps but that is so far off the beaten path it's infinitely less probable to me

Me think the intended Holy Land, the Land of Milk and Honey... had to range from Brazil to North America

Israel certainly does not fit the bill, they had to kick a lot of ass to hold that place then as well as now
 Quoting: superdave


We are human and humans always did that. There is not ONE single nation on world created without violence. Not ONE.

It is difficult, of course, but what do we want, a highway to Paradise?

AND you are forgetting something. Yehudah is now there in Israel, but the Tribes are out there, here, everywhere. The final congregation, before the change of this cycle, was, IS, promised and it WILL happen. We don't know how, yet. There is mistrust from both sides, but it WILL happen. Both staffs will become one again, I really trust this.

Don't be afraid to be a Zionist, in the full scale of the world, one who longs for Tsion, not what the world supposes it means. Don't you care about what this evil world says, it is on its death throws.

A new horizon will open. Both Jews and Christians will be VERY surprised, you can be sure! The Holy One is not predictable and plus He/She/It has a Great sense of humor!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397295


There are three "Gods" in the first part of Genesis
The CREATOR
the "Lord Gods" that "made man in their image"
and the "Lord"...that Cain and Abel worshipped (IMO created)

I choose the CREATOR as "my God".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777624


Once again, you are basing yourself on translations and ignoring the completely different structure and meaning of Hebrew, with the correspondingly different processes of thought.

Furthermore, the Torah is not a book of moral, a manual for good behavior, although a correct conduct naturally flows from it.
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who cares. noone believes in any of that stuff anyway..

this is 2011.
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Well, there IS a reason for concern.As his time draws shorter, Satan is going to FORCE you to not believe in "that stuff".
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Self Defining Hebrew?


LOL you guys are desperate
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What are you talking about?
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Self Defining Hebrew?


LOL you guys are desperate
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What are you talking about?
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Read the specifics of this so-called research group in the OP..they use an "invented" system called Self Defining Hebrew to get their results..but you can buy their products online...lol
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Don't disagree with that at all... but I am talking about the intent of Moses, we could go on and on about where people scattered to from that point on.

 Quoting: superdave


I don't agree. If the people didn't go to the Holy Land, there would have been no Temple and the whole world would have been different - and worse.

As I read things the promises were of a very abundant barely if at all inhabited land that certainly doesn't describe anything at the time not populated in the region

Israel simply doesn't fit the bill which brings us back to knowledge of the New World which both of us seem to agree the Egyptians had...

Everything all the way to China was populated, Europe is cold in the North, you could suggest OZ or New Zealand perhaps but that is so far off the beaten path it's infinitely less probable to me

Me think the intended Holy Land, the Land of Milk and Honey... had to range from Brazil to North America

Israel certainly does not fit the bill, they had to kick a lot of ass to hold that place then as well as now
 Quoting: superdave


We are human and humans always did that. There is not ONE single nation on world created without violence. Not ONE.

It is difficult, of course, but what do we want, a highway to Paradise?

AND you are forgetting something. Yehudah is now there in Israel, but the Tribes are out there, here, everywhere. The final congregation, before the change of this cycle, was, IS, promised and it WILL happen. We don't know how, yet. There is mistrust from both sides, but it WILL happen. Both staffs will become one again, I really trust this.

Don't be afraid to be a Zionist, in the full scale of the world, one who longs for Tsion, not what the world supposes it means. Don't you care about what this evil world says, it is on its death throws.

A new horizon will open. Both Jews and Christians will be VERY surprised, you can be sure! The Holy One is not predictable and plus He/She/It has a Great sense of humor!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1397295


There are three "Gods" in the first part of Genesis
The CREATOR
the "Lord Gods" that "made man in their image"
and the "Lord"...that Cain and Abel worshipped (IMO created)

I choose the CREATOR as "my God".

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 777624


Once again, you are basing yourself on translations and ignoring the completely different structure and meaning of Hebrew, with the correspondingly different processes of thought.

Furthermore, the Torah is not a book of moral, a manual for good behavior, although a correct conduct naturally flows from it.
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I am not "basing myself on translations".
Just happen to KNOW the Creator.

Why do YOU think the "Lord Gods" said it was "sin" to partake in the "knowledge of good and evil"????
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WOW...THEY really are TRYING hard to make Christians lose their faith. Christianity must be a huge threat to them.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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