3 Events in the Same Time Frame: Removal of the bride, Satan Set Free to Rule as King of the Earth, Two Witnesses in Jerusalem

only change i'd make is us leaving in the 1st harpazo at the 6th seal.(Rev.6:12-7:9) The large multitude is us.

Rev.12 talks about the jewish remnant "woman" who come to know Jesus in the 1st part of the 70th week. They are protected after the A.O.D.

Song of Sol. 2:10-13 talks about the beloved (us) rising up and coming away in the spring. Maybe this ascention day or pentecost?

Maybe it all happens simultaneously: worldwide quake, sun black, moon like blood, stars fall, mountains moved, all men realizing wrath of God is come, Rapture, 144,000 sealed.

I think the 2 witnesses come a little after the 144,000 but idk.

I'm a fool for Christ, whose fool are you?

The Bride of Christ is not described in Rev 12:14, 15 as you stated above. Revelation is a chronological book... the Bride of Christ is taken up by Christ into His heavenly realm at the beginning of Rev, chapter 4, verse 1. In Rev 3:10, He promises to "....keep you (meaning His Bride, His believers in Him as God, as the Messiah) from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world....." We, His believers, are the Bride of Christ and He will rescue us at the point described in Rev 3:10, which is right before the final seven year tribulation. The tribulation is for the salvation of the Jewish nation...Rev 12:14,15 describes the "woman", the Jews....their refuge at the midpoint of the tribulation where they will take refuge, probably in Petra, for the final 3.5 years, preceding the Millenium, the millenial kingdom when Christ will rule the earth in peace.
It does appear that the world is lined up for this scenario!
No man, no angel.... knows the day or hour when His Bride will be rescued by Him, but according to the rest of Scripture, it strongly indicates that it will happen during the Feast of Trumpets, maybe this year....maybe next...but it appears...some year soon, unless the world repents and delays His coming. Presently that doesn't seem likely.
The antichrist will be revealed after the rescue of the Bride. Then 7 years of tribulation; at the middle, Rev 12:14 occurs.

Your reference as to a large multitude - check out Revelation 14:1-5, which refers to the redeemed being a limited number, 144,000, the firstfruits of this generation.

These are wise virgins, Matthew 25:1-10, a remnant of 144,000 who are filled with the oil of the Holy Spirit.

These are not the same as those 144,000 who remain on Earth and who are sealed of the 12 tribes of Israel as given in Revelation 7:1-8.

The multitude found in Heaven are those who were chosen from the foundation of the world.

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Some parts are not strictly chronological, as there are single verses that are inserted in supposedly chronological passages which clearly are not as they even go back thousands of years.


A seven-year tribulation is nowhere mentioned in the book of Revelation. For 3 1/2 years the bride is removed during this period of time, her days upon Earth being shortened.

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Daniel's 70th "week" is 7 years. Now the "great tribulation" is 1/2 of that.

In Jewish custom the bridegroom would be in the "bridal chamber" 7 days.

The multitude that no one can number is the bride.

Rev.15 talks about the tribulation saints are those who got victory over the beasts mark, his image and his name.

Daniel 9:27 describes a SEVEN-YEAR tribulation, WHICH BEGINS AT THE SIGNING OF THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE ANTICHRIST AND ISRAEL, WHICH ACCORDING TO DANIEL IS SEVEN YEARS.

I agree that Rev 12:6, Rev 11:2,3 and Rev 12:14 are the same 3.5 year duration which is the second half of the seven year tribulation.
After the midpoint of the seven years "the woman" Rev 12:6 "fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she might be nourished for 1,260 days (3.5 years).
Daniel 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offerings."in Rev 13:5, at the midpoint of tribulation, the "beast" (anti christ) is given authority to act for 42 months (3.5 years)...Rev 11:3 the witnesses "will prophesy for 1260 days (same 3.5 year duration)
The woman described in Rev 12:6 is not the Bride of Christ!
The Church, not Israel, is Christ's bride, which has been rescued in Rev. 4:1 which will be before or at the beginnning of the seven year tribulation.
The tribulation begins at the signing of this contract, this firm covenant between the antichrist and Israel. Church (bride of Christ) will clearly be rescued (caught up) before he makes that covenant with Israel.
Chapter 11:2 the nations will tread under foot the holy city for 42 months...that is 3.5 years, and then verse 3, the 2 witnesses will prophesy for 3.5 years.

For all those 'visual' learners out there...the End Times illustrated.

[link to www.yeshuatyisrael.com]

Daniel 9:14 "Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city...."

sevens of years (70 weeks of 7 years each)

verse 27 occurs at the midpoint of the last 7 years of God's dealing with them.... "the tribulation is for the salvation of the Jewish nation." there will be 7 years!

Yes anonymous coward 1342137.... Clarence Larkin's charts are correct....and exactly what I was saying!

Yes, I agree w/ this except i think Daniels 70th week starts Rev.6 at 6th seal, when we're raptured. But thats a minor difference.

Thanks for this thread op. This is one of my fav.sites for understanding the bride and the bridal week of 7 yrs. If you have time check it out.

[link to www.bibleprophesy.org]

Daniel's 70th week = 70ad = destruction of the temple

fulfilled long ago

Oops.. anonymous coward 1342137.. my response to you...
I just glanced at the chart and it LOOKED like one that Clarence Larkin had done. Someone redid it...but basically, right in that the Bride of Christ will be rescued, afterwards the 7 year tribulation.....

No sir! Partial fulfillment. Jacob's trouble's are coming and will be so horrific that if God doesn't shorten the days, all flesh could be destroyed.

Another good site

[link to unveilingthebride.com]

anonymous 1405966
nope.... hasn't been fulfilled.
in AD 70, that temple was destroyed....it will be rebuilt...

Refers to those within Jerusalem's walls at the time, there was no food due to the siege.


"Every day is Judgment Day in the Crucible of Time."

GLOW-reh!

Are u kidding? You don't want to be here for "The great day of His Wrath". It aint just like any other day.

o.k. ....ac34 1st the rolling pin, now the GLOW -reh. That's o.k. it shows your curiosity i hope.

I think the tribulation final 3.5 years starts in April 2012. April 11 to be precise. See Pastor Mark Biltz timeline, see Ron Reese website thefinalsevenyearsareherenow.com for more info about this. That is why all the disasters, because we are already in the first 3.5 years, called the beginning of sorrows.

I believe as you describe except from my reading and understanding it (Rapture) will most likely occur during the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) and not the Jewish New Year. Sukkot this year (2011) is on October 12 and goes through October 19.

Rebuild the temple for the anti-christ so that christ can return and destroy it all over again?

That is satan's plan, not God's will.

We can not be in the first 3.5 years of the Seventieth week because the Bride (true Church) has not been Raptured yet.

In order for Christ to return at the end of the seven years with his Bride (true Church), it must first be 'caught up' with Him before the 7 years begins.

We are seeing a buildup to the final seven years which will make today seem like paradise.

I disagree and so do the Prophecies.

Not even to walk through it with your fellow human being? Ease a little of the "unimaginable" suffering in some small, humble way?

"For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John."

Take it up with Jesus.

I already have.

70 AD was prophecized and happened.
The Roman period was the Iron legs of Nebuchadnezzar's Collosus. Titus fulfilled this prophecy when he destroyed the temple in AD 70.

What of the feet of iron and clay?

If you place one of Daniel's weeks = 7 years you'll see it aligns perfectly with the 4 kingdoms that have come and passed (Babalonian(Gold), Medo-Persian(Silver), Greecian(Brass), and Iron(Roman). There still remains the feet of Iron and Clay (and the Ten Toes (kingdoms)).


Do you ignore the rest of the prophecies?

Look further and pray.

If you believe it's already happened, then you must believe that from 70 AD to 1070 AD was the Millinneal Kingdom of Christ. Is that what you believe?

Hey....ac34, do you have a bible? Read Revelation chapters 6 on. It's real and its almost here. I don't want you or anyone else here for that.

Romans 5:9 says we can escape God's wrath if make peace with him through Jesus. Jesus Kept all the commandments and he credits his perfection to our account when we give him all our sins. He was judged for all our sins when God the Father judged Him in our place at the cross.

It's a great deal. Our sins placed on Jesus and His perfect righteousness given to our account. He took the punishment for sin and in turn gave us the righteousness needed to enter heaven.

Think and pray about it awhile. :)