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woe is greece
lets get ready to rumble
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I think I understand. At least what happened in this country. It isn't about countries. It's about banks and the world wide middle class. Governments borrowed for entitlement programs they couldn't afford. The middle class borrowed for luxury items and houses they couldn't afford. The banks kept lending them money and and made money off the interest. then the banks sold the loans because they knew people couldn't afford to pay for stuff they couldn't afford.
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all planed oh canada
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This is the big news I been waiting for all week. Its been kind of quiet lately, no Glp?

And what do you think its just Greece. Look at your own country. The evil bankers run the show. I hope this spreads and we the people can run the show again and expose/stop them.
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If these alegations are anywhere near true it's the equivalent of a father repeatedly raping his daughter and then having others do more of the same for some evil vicarious pleasure of his own...

This deserves a punishment as harsh as one can give...
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op you should know this world ecomic crash ... ie the way it happened, could not be no accident!

ole slew foot Is up to something HUGE
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Capitalism needs to be regulated. It is eating itself, you, me. Time for you working-class boneheads to stop carrying water for the right-wing corporatists and elites and REGULATE THE BANKS TO THE HILT.
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You can't regulate greed. Even YOU. Were you to start up a business in your garage making asomething and it took off and went public big time making you super rich. You'ld be there amongst the bankers grazing and mucking around as they do. It's not the individuals at fault but the system we have chosen which elevates greed and makes it a virtue. The bankers are merely one component of that edifice of greed.
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to quote from the other thread here:
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5/22/2011 12:53 AM
The corruption is an effect not the cause...it's always like this in the end...

The system is the cause...corruption is an effect.

This way all you drones get upset at the effcts...and the cause escapes.

You all think the effect is teh cause...

The system has always been doomed to collapse...teh top know this.

The corruption teh top causes to happen at the end is then used as a scapegoat.

to make it look like a good system turned bad and collapsed.

but it was a bad system all along...that reached maximum potential and collapsed.

but if you all realized that...you would all demand a change to the system or refuse to continue supporting it...

The top does not want that...so in the end the top create massive chaos which is an effect to hide the cause of the collapse of the system which is inevitably dooem to reach maximum potential and implode reguardless of how it is operated.

After it all falls to pieces and the dust settles...the top then hire the bottom to do it all over again...this time without all the corruption...

The system always starts out good looking and ends bad looking.

Because at the start you all compare it to the end...and it always looks better in the beginning than at the end.

The birth and death of the NWO occur at the same point.

The new world order has reached maximum potential and is going to collapse and out of the ashes will rise the new world order.

this has been going on for 1000's of years now.
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The gist of the allegations rest on the charge by Mr. Kammenos, that the Greek Prime Minister, Mr. George Papandreou and members of his team, presided over the sale of 1.3 billion dollars worth of credit default swap contracts (CDS on Greek sovereign debt) on or around December of 2009, shortly after coming to power. The 1.3 billion dollars worth of insurance protecting against a Greek default was bought during the spring and summer of the same year, by the Hellenic Postbank, a public banking arm of the Greek government.

[link to coveringdelta.wordpress.com]
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Kammenos is the greek word for "burnt"
Something to do with this guys brain cells
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The gist of the allegations rest on the charge by Mr. Kammenos, that the Greek Prime Minister, Mr. George Papandreou and members of his team, presided over the sale of 1.3 billion dollars worth of credit default swap contracts (CDS on Greek sovereign debt) on or around December of 2009, shortly after coming to power. The 1.3 billion dollars worth of insurance protecting against a Greek default was bought during the spring and summer of the same year, by the Hellenic Postbank, a public banking arm of the Greek government.

[link to coveringdelta.wordpress.com]
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Kammenos is the greek word for "burnt"
Something to do with this guys brain cells
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I like him though
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05/31/2011 06:01 AM
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i actually knew this happened...poor greece...i feel so sorry for them...their economy is going to absorb a disproportionate amount of suffering due to this CDS catastrophe...
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Capitalism needs to be regulated. It is eating itself, you, me. Time for you working-class boneheads to stop carrying water for the right-wing corporatists and elites and REGULATE THE BANKS TO THE HILT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266549


You can't regulate greed. Even YOU. Were you to start up a business in your garage making asomething and it took off and went public big time making you super rich. You'ld be there amongst the bankers grazing and mucking around as they do. It's not the individuals at fault but the system we have chosen which elevates greed and makes it a virtue. The bankers are merely one component of that edifice of greed.
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to quote from the other thread here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1311260
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5/22/2011 12:53 AM
The corruption is an effect not the cause...it's always like this in the end...

The system is the cause...corruption is an effect.

This way all you drones get upset at the effcts...and the cause escapes.

You all think the effect is teh cause...

The system has always been doomed to collapse...teh top know this.

The corruption teh top causes to happen at the end is then used as a scapegoat.

to make it look like a good system turned bad and collapsed.

but it was a bad system all along...that reached maximum potential and collapsed.

but if you all realized that...you would all demand a change to the system or refuse to continue supporting it...

The top does not want that...so in the end the top create massive chaos which is an effect to hide the cause of the collapse of the system which is inevitably dooem to reach maximum potential and implode reguardless of how it is operated.

After it all falls to pieces and the dust settles...the top then hire the bottom to do it all over again...this time without all the corruption...

The system always starts out good looking and ends bad looking.

Because at the start you all compare it to the end...and it always looks better in the beginning than at the end.

The birth and death of the NWO occur at the same point.

The new world order has reached maximum potential and is going to collapse and out of the ashes will rise the new world order.

this has been going on for 1000's of years now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311260

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 898442




both of the above are great qoutes and insights... i will use thm to bump this thread, because the discussion in here is awesome... no accusations flinging around, overal consent WITHOUT a main theme...i love it, keep them comming
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Capitalism needs to be regulated. It is eating itself, you, me. Time for you working-class boneheads to stop carrying water for the right-wing corporatists and elites and REGULATE THE BANKS TO THE HILT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266549


You can't regulate greed. Even YOU. Were you to start up a business in your garage making asomething and it took off and went public big time making you super rich. You'ld be there amongst the bankers grazing and mucking around as they do. It's not the individuals at fault but the system we have chosen which elevates greed and makes it a virtue. The bankers are merely one component of that edifice of greed.
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to quote from the other thread here:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1311260
Canada
5/22/2011 12:53 AM
The corruption is an effect not the cause...it's always like this in the end...

The system is the cause...corruption is an effect.

This way all you drones get upset at the effcts...and the cause escapes.

You all think the effect is teh cause...

The system has always been doomed to collapse...teh top know this.

The corruption teh top causes to happen at the end is then used as a scapegoat.

to make it look like a good system turned bad and collapsed.

but it was a bad system all along...that reached maximum potential and collapsed.

but if you all realized that...you would all demand a change to the system or refuse to continue supporting it...

The top does not want that...so in the end the top create massive chaos which is an effect to hide the cause of the collapse of the system which is inevitably dooem to reach maximum potential and implode reguardless of how it is operated.

After it all falls to pieces and the dust settles...the top then hire the bottom to do it all over again...this time without all the corruption...

The system always starts out good looking and ends bad looking.

Because at the start you all compare it to the end...and it always looks better in the beginning than at the end.

The birth and death of the NWO occur at the same point.

The new world order has reached maximum potential and is going to collapse and out of the ashes will rise the new world order.

this has been going on for 1000's of years now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311260

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 898442




both of the above are great qoutes and insights... i will use thm to bump this thread, because the discussion in here is awesome... no accusations flinging around, overal consent WITHOUT a main theme...i love it, keep them comming
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bump for Greece. rockon
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well well well. what do we have here... demonstrators and protesters bumrush the parliament and entrap all the congresmen... police is rather helpless... (scroll down its the last vid)

Things getting interresting here... if this should work, then please copycat us and kick out your cleptocrats and banksters out of the holy temple which is human society



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well well well. what do we have here... demonstrators and protesters bumrush the parliament and entrap all the congresmen... police is rather helpless... (scroll down its the last vid)

Things getting interresting here... if this should work, then please copycat us and kick out your cleptocrats and banksters out of the holy temple which is human society



[link to cosmo.gr]
 Quoting: Dynamitrios


China and India (and the other largely undeveloped zones on this planet) are the elephants in the room of any meaningful replacement of capitalism. They will HAVE to go through the process of full urbanisation for there to be sufficient disequilibrium in order for the transition to the next, necessary state. Anything in the interim will be largely cosmetic until these significant sources of labour value (surplus) are finally exhausted.

There is always the risk that climate breakdown will bypass this evolutionary process, in essence removing human kind from the bio-sphere. Capitalism's spread carries with it significant bio-sphere reconfiguration.
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Par for the course here in America.

During the 2nd invasion of Iraq, most of the Bush Jr. Administration had stock in defense or security contractors.

As did many of the Congressmen that appropriated funds and awarded the contracts.

To this very day U.S. congressmen either own part of the companies they award contracts via a no bid process or are employed by those companies immediately after their terms are up.

The same companies are often the main contributers to the political campaigns these politicians run to be elected.

In many cases the politicians are able to spend these donations on lavish luxury items and keep a certain portion of the donations, effectively making them legal bribes.

While in office these politicians then kick back exemption clauses or vote in favor of issues that are in the interest of those campaign contributors.

A recent law passed that gives corporations the same rights as a human being, the problem is that since most corporations have more funds and can employ full time lobbyists this law actually grants the corporations more rights and influence than most grass roots organizations comprised of normal citizens.

The corruption is actually legal and right in your face in America and paid shills defend it's virtues valiantly.

I hope they hang the fucker, and all those like him.

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Don't forget, Afghanistan has lobbyist in the US government too.



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well well well. what do we have here... demonstrators and protesters bumrush the parliament and entrap all the congresmen... police is rather helpless... (scroll down its the last vid)

Things getting interresting here... if this should work, then please copycat us and kick out your cleptocrats and banksters out of the holy temple which is human society



[link to cosmo.gr]
 Quoting: Dynamitrios


China and India (and the other largely undeveloped zones on this planet) are the elephants in the room of any meaningful replacement of capitalism. They will HAVE to go through the process of full urbanisation for there to be sufficient disequilibrium in order for the transition to the next, necessary state. Anything in the interim will be largely cosmetic until these significant sources of labour value (surplus) are finally exhausted.

There is always the risk that climate breakdown will bypass this evolutionary process, in essence removing human kind from the bio-sphere. Capitalism's spread carries with it significant bio-sphere reconfiguration.
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Capitalism cannot work without hte "human factor",... removing human kind removes capitalism (as well as any other -ism), so these that wnat capitalism to continue wont destroy what they think "assets", and thats were we get them by the balls because in the end WE are the machine AND the ghost in the machine

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Im bumping this with the link to the blog that reports about the protests... vids there too...

Right now it really looks like an experiment in immediate democracy, people in my city have squatted the White-tower square, and have formed a think-tank where EVERYONE can state his/her feelings/thoughts and proposals... it s a great feeling, everyone is equal, no parties or unions are involved... and yesterday night, the "mob" (^^) bumrushed the parliament and entrapped the congresmen there... the police tried to funnel them through the park behind the parliament but failed miserably... every politician who tried to leave was greated by the mob, berated badly and forced to hide inside the parliament... no injuries though, just a display of "dont anger the people or you ll enter a world of hurt"... it was hillarious to watch... if this government and their banking cronies gets thrown out, then please do the same in your country... dont listen to the propaganda, listen to your hearts...
A few hours later the people cleared the parliament and the politicians left with their tails under their legs... it was glorious... and a cool message "we are watching you, and you are OUR servants, not the other way round" was spread...


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