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Police questioned me after an email to my congressman

 
Anonymous Coward
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
if the letter said, 'recently a rapist was let off... now if my daughter was raped, and their attacker was let off, I would kill them and their blood would be on your hands.' does that deserve investigating too? something that every sane parent has said and thought at one point.
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05/31/2011 01:47 PM
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googooflexy (OP)

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OP,

The last part of your letter sounded like you were saying this:

" I just MIGHT go berserk in public, and die in a shootout ".

Now you can see why police spoke to you, and they wanted to see if your REAL last name was Laughner, cousin of Jared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 558159


here is the thing, they GOT the letter obviously, and read it.
now the OP is saying something very basic, as basic as 'rape is wrong' .......

so why send the cops then, instead of a letter back saying we agree this is a serious issue.

that the congressman read his letter and all they did was send the cops after him. that would set a crazy person off even more no doubt.

but what i'm saying is probably too complex for the meat heads here to comprehend. dont worry OP, there are other smart people out there - we just have to dumb ourselves down sometimes to interact with people :-/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367714


Well, I didn't flip out or anything. I calmly explained what I meant and they left within two minutes.

I'm not a crazy person.
...but then again, a crazy person doesn't know they're crazy wink
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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05/31/2011 01:49 PM
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
OP you are a retard. Just cuz you feel that way doesn't mean you need to alert your Congressman of such.
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05/31/2011 01:49 PM
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
You don't "threaten" to defend yourself.

You do sound like a psycho.
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There's a big problem when you do have to. I think that's where we are now as a country.
 Quoting: googooflexy


You didn't think. Just ran your mouth.

That's what got you a visit from the feds.
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
"I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so."

Sorry, OP, but if I was your Congressman and received an email containing that line, I would have called the police, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322813


Exactly. You could say you will "consider" this, but to say you will do so will get you company and in most cases trouble. Got to be careful with the words.
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You didn't think. Just ran your mouth.

That's what got you a visit from the feds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408697


You may be under the impression that I care.

I don't
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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your on the red list dude.... we all are
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05/31/2011 01:55 PM
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They're probably monitoring this now.

Didn't BO just hire a new internet police Czar?

Hope they didn't put you on a "no fly" list.

Is this congressman a Dem or Rep? Can't trust any of them. Ron Paul!
googooflexy (OP)

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OP you are a retard. Just cuz you feel that way doesn't mean you need to alert your Congressman of such.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1165057


If you want representation, that's actually the EXACT thing you need to do.
A congressman's job is to represent the people in his/her region. To get him to do what he's paid to do, you actually do have to alert them on what you feel about their policies.

If either of us is a retard, it's you.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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They're probably monitoring this now.

Didn't BO just hire a new internet police Czar?

Hope they didn't put you on a "no fly" list.

Is this congressman a Dem or Rep? Can't trust any of them. Ron Paul!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384277


"PROBABLY monitoring this now" LOL.

Hell yes they are monitoring this they might have even started the thread!!
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05/31/2011 02:00 PM
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
All you're doing is drawing attention to yourself. Writing a letter won't do anything but get the cops called on you (obviously)

You don't have to be afraid of police, but there's also no practical reason for running your mouth about how not-afraid you are; it's just going to upset them and make you a more visible target, and it WONT ACTUALLY CHANGE ANYTHING (obviously)

If you want to make a difference, help your fellow nonviolent citizens to improve their quality of life on a local, individual level. Even though your ego might get in the way, it would serve you well to try to lay a bit lower.

Not that you have any chance for anonymity now that you've been pinned on GLP for making the cops think you're a terrrrrrrist hahaha
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Red list for sure.

OP go check your mail box for a round sticker and tell us what color it is.

Also if there is a sticker on your mail box I would remove it ASAP.
 Quoting: grrttsgar


Doesnt work. They also spray paint the curb or street.
googooflexy (OP)

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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
They're probably monitoring this now.

Didn't BO just hire a new internet police Czar?

Hope they didn't put you on a "no fly" list.

Is this congressman a Dem or Rep? Can't trust any of them. Ron Paul!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384277


"PROBABLY monitoring this now" LOL.

Hell yes they are monitoring this they might have even started the thread!!
 Quoting: Gandhi


Oh shit...

You caught me!

I guess I'll hafta go to another pond to phish for angry responses. All is well, I've added plenty of names to my list

rofl
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
Just minutes ago, the police left my house. They were "investigating" an email that I sent to my congressman. To give some context, I was reading an article here on GLP about police shooting up a neighorhood in NJ to kill a neighborhood dog : Thread: Police Fire Off 33 Rounds to Kill Dog, Bullets Hit Houses and Cars
My post is on page 2


I was frustrated and sent this email to my congressman (as I've done many times):


Good afternoon Congressman Mulvaney,

It has come to my attention that this nation needs a big change concerning law enforcement. It's not only cases such as the one in NJ recently about officers firing 33 rounds into homes and cars to kill a neighborhood dog, but personal cases of my own that I've actually witnessed here in SC.
The fact that police can use this excessive force whenever they want is unacceptable. I'm personally looking to YOU to help us change this. Not just in SC, but across the nation.
I should NEVER be afraid to speak to, see, or be around a police officer, but I am. In fact, every one of my peers feels the same way. As a 22 year old fresh out of college, the burden to sustain this country is going to be on MY shoulders soon. I will NOT have the only entity that can legally deprive its citizens of their life, liberty, and property free to run amok in this manner. It's a power that should be SEVERELY limited, and I certainly hope that you would agree.
Mick Mulvaney, my blood will be on your hands if a police officer acts in this way in my neighborhood. I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so. It's unfortunate that this is the nature of things these days and I certainly hope that you can help. Your job depends on it.

Thanks for your time,
-Cameron


A few moments ago, police knocked on my door to question me about it. I actually thought they were going to question me about an incident in the neighborhood recently, but to my surprise, mentioned my letter to Mick Mulvaney. They said that it sounded threatening and they were coming to just check on things...
One of the officers was actually a guy I went to highschool with, so I didn't make a scene or anything. I just thought that it was kind of strange that they'd be so on edge about this. I wonder if they investigate every irate citizen's emails to their congressmen...
 Quoting: googooflexy


I am sure your congressman forwarded this to your local police. And for good reason. Some of your words, and most of your overall tone, were of a threatening nature.

Save your emails to officals as a draft. Come back and re read them a day later, after you have calmed down.

And you are probably on a list now, with others deemed wacko and will be for a while.
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No, only that I'm not willing to discuss this on the internet. Why do you think they are trying to shut sites like this down. We must learn to be a little "smarter" with our wording.

I'm not afraid, but I'm not going to give them a reason.
 Quoting: Gandhi


i think you are afraid. Afraid of giving them a reason...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367950


I don't threaten violence on the internet or in letters to congressmen, just a personal thing. You can do what you want, tough guy.

I am watching the system implode (without any violence from me) and what good would I do any cause if I die in its infancy?
 Quoting: Gandhi


you think gandhi would have achieved anything by just watching?
You are watching the system implode, without any action from you.
You are a good slave to the system, just as the police men abusing their powers are.
googooflexy (OP)

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05/31/2011 02:03 PM
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All you're doing is drawing attention to yourself. Writing a letter won't do anything but get the cops called on you (obviously)

You don't have to be afraid of police, but there's also no practical reason for running your mouth about how not-afraid you are; it's just going to upset them and make you a more visible target, and it WONT ACTUALLY CHANGE ANYTHING (obviously)

If you want to make a difference, help your fellow nonviolent citizens to improve their quality of life on a local, individual level. Even though your ego might get in the way, it would serve you well to try to lay a bit lower.

Not that you have any chance for anonymity now that you've been pinned on GLP for making the cops think you're a terrrrrrrist hahaha
 Quoting: Mr Reasonable 1367016


The cool thing about not caring is; I don't care.

Believe it or not I do more than just write nasty emails to my congressmen.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
Just minutes ago, the police left my house. They were "investigating" an email that I sent to my congressman. To give some context, I was reading an article here on GLP about police shooting up a neighorhood in NJ to kill a neighborhood dog : Thread: Police Fire Off 33 Rounds to Kill Dog, Bullets Hit Houses and Cars
My post is on page 2


I was frustrated and sent this email to my congressman (as I've done many times):


Good afternoon Congressman Mulvaney,

It has come to my attention that this nation needs a big change concerning law enforcement. It's not only cases such as the one in NJ recently about officers firing 33 rounds into homes and cars to kill a neighborhood dog, but personal cases of my own that I've actually witnessed here in SC.
The fact that police can use this excessive force whenever they want is unacceptable. I'm personally looking to YOU to help us change this. Not just in SC, but across the nation.
I should NEVER be afraid to speak to, see, or be around a police officer, but I am. In fact, every one of my peers feels the same way. As a 22 year old fresh out of college, the burden to sustain this country is going to be on MY shoulders soon. I will NOT have the only entity that can legally deprive its citizens of their life, liberty, and property free to run amok in this manner. It's a power that should be SEVERELY limited, and I certainly hope that you would agree.
Mick Mulvaney, my blood will be on your hands if a police officer acts in this way in my neighborhood. I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so. It's unfortunate that this is the nature of things these days and I certainly hope that you can help. Your job depends on it.

Thanks for your time,
-Cameron


A few moments ago, police knocked on my door to question me about it. I actually thought they were going to question me about an incident in the neighborhood recently, but to my surprise, mentioned my letter to Mick Mulvaney. They said that it sounded threatening and they were coming to just check on things...
One of the officers was actually a guy I went to highschool with, so I didn't make a scene or anything. I just thought that it was kind of strange that they'd be so on edge about this. I wonder if they investigate every irate citizen's emails to their congressmen...
 Quoting: googooflexy


You probably should have left out the last paragraph.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408340


Yep that last para on a pschyc valution would have got you locked up.
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
"I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so."

Sorry, OP, but if I was your Congressman and received an email containing that line, I would have called the police, too.
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Agreed. Why is this pinned??
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is self defense illegal in canada, NWO gobblinbot?
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"Mick Mulvaney, my blood will be on your hands if a police officer acts in this way in my neighborhood. I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so."

Good one, dumbass.

Without the grand Drama Queen sentence duo there, your letter sounded legitimate and convincing.

With the inclusion, it sounds like you're trying to arrange a death-by-cop.
Don't run. You'll just die tired.
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OP will probably be under surveillance for awhile. You will see unmarked cars passing you on the highway. Also watch out for the newpaper delivery guys at 6am. They arent really delivering papers. They are watching your routine to fill out a file on you.
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
Let me get this straight...

You have a college education, but didn't understand that the last paragraph was easily interpreted as your intent to kill law enforcement and die in the process?

You did have to take some English classes right?

Try to remember to proof read any correspondence you write to ANYONE in the future, and try to read it from the perspective of it's intended recipient.

Keep in mind that you are now on record for sending a letter mentioning violent intentions to a Government Official.

If you strike out again, you very well may have any number of charges laid down on you.

I suggest you put the pen down, and look to others to author your frustrations for you.

You showed very poor judgment in writing and sending this letter with that last paragraph included.

Good luck in your future endeavors.

resist
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OP did not threaten anyone dumb ass. enjoy your slavery coward.
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"Mick Mulvaney, my blood will be on your hands if a police officer acts in this way in my neighborhood. I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so."

Good one, dumbass.

Without the grand Drama Queen sentence duo there, your letter sounded legitimate and convincing.

With the inclusion, it sounds like you're trying to arrange a death-by-cop.
 Quoting: Comedian


lmao

I kind of liked it myself.
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
did the congressman send them your way, or did they intercept this email?
 Quoting: Josiv


I don't think the congressman ever saw it actually.

You probably should have left out the last paragraph.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408340


Yeah dude you shouldnt mention your gonna die and your blood is on his hands...

Durrrrrrrrrrrrr
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1165831


"I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so."

Sorry, OP, but if I was your Congressman and received an email containing that line, I would have called the police, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322813


I want to make sure you've all read the article that I was referring to when I posted this.
Police put 33 bullet holes in houses and cars in a crowded neighborhood to shoot a non-threatening neighborhood dog.
So...YES, I'll shoot back if that happens in my neighborhood. AND I'll likely die from it. When bullets are coming through your windows and drywall, what will your reaction be? It's simple fight or flight...I choose to fight.
THAT'S what I mean by the statement.

But I can certainly see how someone who didn't read the article I was referring to could take it badly. "My blood is on your hands" may have been a bit much lol, but honestly this is not that much worse than any of the others I've sent which includes large amounts of swearing, etc...
 Quoting: googooflexy


No matter how you FEEL about the situation, you should have left out the last paragraph.

Just a little advice ....Never show your cards.
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
You didn't think. Just ran your mouth.

That's what got you a visit from the feds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408697


You may be under the impression that I care.

I don't
 Quoting: googooflexy


If they would have hauled you downtown and worked your ass over to get it through to you it would have sunk in.

They will next time and you'll be whining about it again.

And I won't care.
googooflexy (OP)

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"Mick Mulvaney, my blood will be on your hands if a police officer acts in this way in my neighborhood. I WILL take action against an oppressive power of this nature, and will likely die doing so."

Good one, dumbass.

Without the grand Drama Queen sentence duo there, your letter sounded legitimate and convincing.

With the inclusion, it sounds like you're trying to arrange a death-by-cop.
 Quoting: Comedian


Can't say that I disagree with what it sounds like, but let me explain...

No knock raids and open gunfire in neighborhoods leads to deaths. That can't be argued. It does.

If it happens to me, I'll fight back. And since I'm fighting against the police, I'm guarunteed to die. I'm remarking on the unfortunate state of things...not inciting death-by-cop. It may sound that way, but it's not.

This is why I said "IF A POLICE OFFICER ACTS THIS WAY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD"
That part's pretty key.

I'll never be afraid to defend myself or to announce that I will.
Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
-Bill Hicks
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No, only that I'm not willing to discuss this on the internet. Why do you think they are trying to shut sites like this down. We must learn to be a little "smarter" with our wording.

I'm not afraid, but I'm not going to give them a reason.
 Quoting: Gandhi


i think you are afraid. Afraid of giving them a reason...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367950


I don't threaten violence on the internet or in letters to congressmen, just a personal thing. You can do what you want, tough guy.

I am watching the system implode (without any violence from me) and what good would I do any cause if I die in its infancy?
 Quoting: Gandhi


you think gandhi would have achieved anything by just watching?
You are watching the system implode, without any action from you.
You are a good slave to the system, just as the police men abusing their powers are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367950


Gandhi didn't have to worry about the CIA, NSA,......... and modern surveillance techniques.cool2
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
OP, stop.

Don't try to play sane moderator all of the sudden.

Especially after what happened to Giffords, I think it's entirely reasonable that police would come check on someone who wrote an unbalanced letter mentioning dying in the act of taking action... I think that's suggestive of a certain mindset that could be assumed to be on the edge or just plain coo coo crazy.

You went over a line, lost your cool, whatever. As a citizen and a father, I'm frankly glad you were questioned. Looking at the big picture, I too am upset when police abuse their powers - but hostile, angry youth tend to ignore every beneficial act performed by law enforcement and end up with a skewed perspective. Law enforcement mostly does good - like keeping tabs on someone who is in a mental state where they may do harm to themselves or someone else.

I mean really, what's your argument here? You were just angry and irrational but not really suicidal or homicidal? You aren't coming off very well here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408609


YOU'RE A MORAN. THE MAN CLEARLY STATED HIS CASE IN HIS OP. WHY ARE YOU COWARDS TRYING TO TELL HIM NOT TO STAND UP FOR HIS FREEDOM?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408673


People would rather remark on the severity of violent words to their gov. No wonder we're in the situation that we are. Fear seems to be rampant in this country.

Thanks for the support. hf
 Quoting: googooflexy


You self-righteous little twit. This isn't about whatever point you may or may not have had lost in your irrational tirade... It's about the fact you lost your cool and became a problem in your own right while trying to ineffectively deal with another problem. More than anything, this is about maturity more than rights.
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Re: Police questioned me after an email to my congressman
Chew on this for a while:

In war one of the most critical thing is intel. If you know your enemy better than he knows you, you can overcome great odds.

The guy who said - "don't show your cards" nailed it.

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