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Is Keith Barry's "Deception" on Discovery Channel REAL or FAKE?

 
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Is Keith Barry's "Deception" on Discovery Channel REAL or FAKE?
Simple question.

I can't figure out if the whole thing is staged or not.

If it's NOT, then this is the best show on TV.
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Re: Is Keith Barry's "Deception" on Discovery Channel REAL or FAKE?
Simple question.

I can't figure out if the whole thing is staged or not.

If it's NOT, then this is the best show on TV.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394849


If you are a true conspiracy theorist then his show is a fake and he is a super shill.

True conspiracy theorists cannot believe anything that another individual promulgates, everyone is suspect.
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I watched this last night. The movie theater scene had a continuity error. The first person they interviewed after letting the viewers out into the lobby said something like "it was the funniest thing I've ever scene", but that same person was scene awake during the hypnosis. He was a young male, brown hair, glasses, mid 20's, blue hoodie sweatshirt.
Why would one of the 15% that did not get hypnotized say 'it was funny'. I suppose he never said the movie was funny and was referring to people being hypnotized as funny.
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Simple question.

I can't figure out if the whole thing is staged or not.

If it's NOT, then this is the best show on TV.
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if its true its a good universal trigger?? juss saying lol
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TV= CONTROLLED FAKERY

are you really thinking ANYTHING you see on TV is real and

not controlled?
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TV= CONTROLLED FAKERY

are you really thinking ANYTHING you see on TV is real and

not controlled?
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Get a life, believe me you are wrong
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TV= CONTROLLED FAKERY

are you really thinking ANYTHING you see on TV is real and

not controlled?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270741


Get a life, believe me you are wrong
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Yeah, just believe him. They don't have facts in Ireland so they have to go on gut feelings and women's intuition.
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the guy "john" who he "turned into a sleeper agent" is the same "john" that conan obrian sent to new orleans for mardi gras...I CALL FAKE ON THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anybody notice the toll-free number listed on the license plate frames of the cars in the Car Dealership episode?

1-888-747-3717

I searched it on the internet and it isn't listed to any business, let alone a Gulliver's USA. Haven't tried calling the number, but I just thought that was interesting...
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At about 10 or 11 minutes in the black ops episode right before they go to commercial he shows a small preview of the yellow shirt guy he stops on the street. When Keith Barry takes of the man's blazer you can see a wire go from his collar to his microphone thing on the back of his belt. After the commercial it isn't seen. it was probably a second take or something. I'm not sure if he's fake but this has got me suspicious now.
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I would say that Keith Barry is highly qualified at the following ...

- reading body language
- hypnosis
- human psychology
- misdirection
- power of suggestion (pseudo-hypnosis)

Combining those skills (and a lifetime of experience) he pulls off some amazing stunts.

So in that sense, I absolutely believe the show it is real. It is an exhibition of his skills.

BUT, it is still TV ... which is fake. i.e. They plan out these stunts in advance. They attempt everything multiple times, and cut out the attempts that don't work as expected. They film planned and rehearsed scenes as filler programming, etc.

I agree that it is a great program!! It really opened my eyes to the power of suggestion (where we see things around us and assimilate that information without being aware that we even saw it in the first place!)
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the guy "john" who he "turned into a sleeper agent" is the same "john" that conan obrian sent to new orleans for mardi gras...I CALL FAKE ON THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: dickiebanner 1434009


He's right, it is... how is that possible for this guy to be randomly selected for both shows..? aw man I really liked this show but now... this doesn't make sense.
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TV= CONTROLLED FAKERY

are you really thinking ANYTHING you see on TV is real and

not controlled?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1270741


Almost 100% true.
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Well, the guy was talking about it being the funniest thing he ever saw in the movie, becuase he was specifically talking about the people. Also, lots of things are possible with the Sub-Concience. Like this one time, my sister brought up like a double tailed flying lemur, and an hour later, they were saying how the world would end, and my sister's friend said a double tailed flying lemur, and her friend completely forgot that random mixture of Words, even afterwards. So, I think, it isn't fake, if my sister can do something like that on accident, imagine someone practicing that almost their whole life. Mentalism is just learning the concept. Lots of people think the same way, you just have to figure out what that way is. And he isnt showing us what he does as well as the other things because he doesnt want a guy doing thing like that to random people, not because hes faking it. There is a possibility it's faked, but here's one thing that you can useually tell, the camera. If it is filmed on a set, or it's faked, it usually has the great camera, with perfect graphics. But the camera on this show, is a little dark, some what fuzzy, not very noticeable. And, I think the show is real, not faked.
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I watched this last night. The movie theater scene had a continuity error. The first person they interviewed after letting the viewers out into the lobby said something like "it was the funniest thing I've ever scene", but that same person was scene awake during the hypnosis. He was a young male, brown hair, glasses, mid 20's, blue hoodie sweatshirt.
Why would one of the 15% that did not get hypnotized say 'it was funny'. I suppose he never said the movie was funny and was referring to people being hypnotized as funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1411328


He was talking about the whole situation seeing them get knocked out. that was the funniest thing he ever saw. Not the movie obviously.
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well as i see it, its all fake.

there have been over 100 scientific studies of hypnosis, and they have all been very conclusive on one subject, you can never make someone do something that is against their nature.
Along with that of the studies made hypnosis only works on about 40-50% of the human population and it does not work the way it is showed in the program.
90% of everyone that has been subject to working hypnosis says that it does not resemble sleep at all, nor do you lose consciousness during the "programming" and they do remember what was said during the hypnosis.
there is more to that ofcourse.
to hypnotizise someone will take roughly 30-45 minutes.

now this being an american show (wich does say one hell of a lot about it) we can deduct a few things, what the show is mostly about is forcefeeding you with nonsense, slowing down own thoughts (you are not required to have one single thought during the show) this resembles the majority of american shows ive seen. and here at the end, most of american shows are only there to instill some sort of fear for things no one has to be afraid of.
"monsters inside me" comes to mind.
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regarding my previous post i guess i will be flamed alot, i dont care, you can not hurt me in any way, nor can you make me fear you.

so instead of flaming at me i suggest something new to you guys, critical thinking, try watching a commercial and ask yourself is this true or not, "if i buy this toothpaste will goodlooking persons of the opposite sex swarm around me" answer to that one is ofcourse no
now when you are thinking a bit more criticly ask yourself this question, why are most shows in america like this?
answer, anyone can watch it the dumbest man on earth and also very intelligent people can find shows like this entertaining there is most likely no conspiracy behind it, its about money. what do people want to see.

use your brains instead of zombielike tv-shows
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I would say that Keith Barry is highly qualified at the following ...

- reading body language
- hypnosis
- human psychology
- misdirection
- power of suggestion (pseudo-hypnosis)

Combining those skills (and a lifetime of experience) he pulls off some amazing stunts.

So in that sense, I absolutely believe the show it is real. It is an exhibition of his skills.

BUT, it is still TV ... which is fake. i.e. They plan out these stunts in advance. They attempt everything multiple times, and cut out the attempts that don't work as expected. They film planned and rehearsed scenes as filler programming, etc.

I agree that it is a great program!! It really opened my eyes to the power of suggestion (where we see things around us and assimilate that information without being aware that we even saw it in the first place!)
 Quoting: Gemini420 1437801


i agree just like most magicans and stuff like that

anything on tv is fake.. ever watched bachelor? my gf watches that and she thinks its real.. i tell her... all those people are paid actors.. and even if they get together at teh end of the show, they most likely have to do that for a contract.
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Oh Yeah ofc its real!

The guy tricked entire Discovery to buy that magnician show of his.

Be entertained thats what it´s for.
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I watched the first episode last week. I noticed something contradictory. In the scene with the shooter who fired in a target with a real body size, Keith first touched his left arm, then his chest and his head. After the shots, they both were talking about right arm. That's why I think that all is just a nice illusion show, but nothing real. The same as Chris Angel's show.
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It's possible that it is true. EVERYTHING that he does on that show is possilbe. I do it with people. (sometimes to get girls) It is called mentalism. The most well known truth of this is that when you lie you fidget and have certain other tells. (like i said fidgeting, looking in a certain direction, avoiding eye contact, sweating, general anxiety, etc...)
I do not know that the show is true and I do not endorse it or deny it, BUT I am able to do many of the cheap tricks he does and have done them before. (I use them a lot to help people nearby deal with trauma or distress such as relationship issues or what not.)
Point is that this show is PLAUSIBLY true and real.
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It's possible that it is true. EVERYTHING that he does on that show is possilbe. I do it with people. (sometimes to get girls) It is called mentalism. The most well known truth of this is that when you lie you fidget and have certain other tells. (like i said fidgeting, looking in a certain direction, avoiding eye contact, sweating, general anxiety, etc...)
I do not know that the show is true and I do not endorse it or deny it, BUT I am able to do many of the cheap tricks he does and have done them before. (I use them a lot to help people nearby deal with trauma or distress such as relationship issues or what not.)
Point is that this show is PLAUSIBLY true and real.
 Quoting: Anony 1554472


It's possible that it is true. EVERYTHING that he does on that show is possilbe. I do it with people. (sometimes to get girls) It is called Masturbation. The most well known truth of this is that when you cum you fidget and have certain other tells. (like i said fidgeting, looking in a certain direction, avoiding eye contact, sweating, general anxiety, etc...)
I do not know that the show is true and I do not endorse it or deny it, BUT I am able to do many of the cheap tricks he does and have done them before. (I use them a lot to help people nearby deal with trauma or distress such as relationship issues or what not.Really!)
Point is that this show is PLAUSIBLY true and real like my story.
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This show is boring. They presume that viewers are naive or idiots.
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The "Black Ops" episode was shown here in the UK the other day...

the guy "john" who he "turned into a sleeper agent" is the same "john" that conan obrian sent to new orleans for mardi gras...I CALL FAKE ON THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: dickiebanner 1434009


He's right, it is... how is that possible for this guy to be randomly selected for both shows..? aw man I really liked this show but now... this doesn't make sense.
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It's not a case of "random selection" at all. Conan's show is filmed in LA, right? So was this episode of "Deception" (maybe they all are?).

Keith Barry stated that he put out an ad asking for men between 20 and 25 yrs old to take part in a psychological test for a TV show about sleep.

It's not unlikely that a guy who has already put himself up for being on Conan as a 'fan correspondent' would also respond to another ad which involves him being on TV.

Furthermore, if Conan's team selected him from a group of applicants, it's not so unlikely that Keith Barry's team might see the same qualities in John that they are looking for...

Anybody notice the toll-free number listed on the license plate frames of the cars in the Car Dealership episode?

1-888-747-3717

I searched it on the internet and it isn't listed to any business, let alone a Gulliver's USA. Haven't tried calling the number, but I just thought that was interesting...
 Quoting: RandomWorld 1434066


This is a TV show - while much of what we see may be real, changing visible phone numbers and other such sensitive information is not unusual.

The dealership may well not have wanted people all over the world to know how to contact them. They just want to sell cars, not field calls from people asking them if the show is real or faked.

At about 10 or 11 minutes in the black ops episode right before they go to commercial he shows a small preview of the yellow shirt guy he stops on the street. When Keith Barry takes of the man's blazer you can see a wire go from his collar to his microphone thing on the back of his belt. After the commercial it isn't seen. it was probably a second take or something. I'm not sure if he's fake but this has got me suspicious now.
 Quoting: rigger106 1436220


The clip before the ad is just a longer edit - the one in the next part is edited tighter so the line under his shirt is not as obvious since we don't have as long to see it. If you look closely, it is visible in both edits. What it is, I have no idea but there is no "microphone thing on the back of his belt" visible in either edit. The point I'm making is that, while you might suspect that to be a microphone cable, that's no reason to invent supporting evidence such as the idea there was more than one take of that scene or that the guy had a radio mic box on his trouser belt.

I'm not saying the show isn't faked - I find it difficult to believe much of what Keith Barry claims to be doing in the shows. However, I've not yet seen anything in the shows themselves, other than the very idea of mind control, that suggests to me that it's not real. Which is what you'd expect from a well made show - real or fake.

This is why the show is appealing to me - I'm really not sure whether to believe it or not.

Oh, one last thing - T H E M O O N I S C L E A R...
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The show was aired in hong kong these few weeks. One thing I believe is plausible- if sleeper agent via hypnosis can be produced, that would explain why lee Harvey Oswald was not able to rem that he ever shot JFK. It's said that Oswald had visited his psychiatrist forbtreatment in the past and this might explain the sleeper agent creation theory.
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the guy "john" who he "turned into a sleeper agent" is the same "john" that conan obrian sent to new orleans for mardi gras...I CALL FAKE ON THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: dickiebanner 1434009
yah!! i am a watcher of his show and sleeper agent is the coolest thing he'd ever done and I think it is true but the free movie where he took a sleep of all the audience,, the black american girl with curly hair is not asleep but laughing but after the fake film she told she was asleep!! WEIRD! evidence
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the guy "john" who he "turned into a sleeper agent" is the same "john" that conan obrian sent to new orleans for mardi gras...I CALL FAKE ON THIS SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: dickiebanner 1434009
yah!! i am a watcher of his show and sleeper agent is the coolest thing he'd ever done and I think it is true but the free movie where he took a sleep of all the audience,, the black american girl with curly hair is not asleep but laughing but after the fake film she told she was asleep!! WEIRD! evidence
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Since both the QQers about FAKE!!! and the belivers, with the "im not sure" ppl watching it (the LOT ppl with us all), and makes u think about the show, i find that it has 100% success.
Many things what he said was in other show on Discovery Channel. If that other show was real, then in this show are real things, the other part may be fake, may be real. I'm sure that Keith knows the truth.
As I said, since we all watched it, and thinking about it, the show is a success, and imo thats the real point of the show... to be a success.
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The show can be FAKE, as its a TV show which is edited and rehearsed but some of the street tricks he did about asking the address and asking for time is real, I am evidence of such incident and even heard of such instances of robbery in my town, these tricks has been used for pickpocket and small kind of robberies.
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Well, the episodes were aired here last week ... and I've been thinking abt them since the week-end .... and looking out for future episodes (are there any more?) .... SO in that sense ... the show is surely a success!!

And more so as I'm a skeptic.

As for the reality part ... surely some things are plausible and possible .... reading eye movements, body language, sense of touch (reading palms to improve ur chances to get laid!) .... I dont think one needs Kieth Barry to teach u these things!

The power of suggestion (3 of diamonds for a class of psycology students etc), playing tricks using peripheral vision, tunnel vision and pseudo-hynosis (by creating confusion, distraction etc) .... these are also pretty well documented too.

Add a few more in the reality kart .... those like the "street magic" stuff.

But hypnosis .... well thats debatable ... sleeper agents!! (if only it was that easy, we wouldnt need CIA or ISI farms for agents or suicide terrorists (resp). And surely the chinks would've discovered it by now.
I absolutely dont believe, its possible to "hypnotise" someone in 5 seconds flat and make him beg or (worse) drop cash in a trash can. For that matter, no matter how well practised an eye u have, you cnnot judge the ladies choice of flower by observing her for two minutes (and the colour of the damn flower too!)

To be fair, even he concedes that its not possible to "read" or hypnotise everyone. Infact, I must remark that its rather easy to fall into a peaceful sleep by the methods shown in such shows (relax ur body, trance like sermon, feel the relaxation in ur toes etc). Incidently, my wife is taking yoga lessons and has reported that there were a few instances where while doing meditation, she went into a "blacked out" state. (But it only happened to three out of twenty or so present). So while hypnosis may be a reality, it probably doesnot affect the vast majority of us and certainly not as dramatically as they show.

My final answer - The easy parts are REAL ... and the other (read 'FAKE') parts are cleverly staged. But the show is certainly entertaining (and thats why its on TV!!).

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