Chemtrails in Chicagoland 6-1-2011

Yes they would be gutted not to find anthrax in there no doubt

Simply put, even spaced chemtrail lines or grid.
Unique engineered disperson rates for even coverage.
Throw in the fact it's the same jet going back and forth over busy metroChicago airspce and you've got something.
No crop dusting needed around here.

[link to www.faa.gov]

• Aerosol-cirrus and contrail-cirrus indirect effects
The aerosol and contrail indirect effects on the microphysical and radiative properties of cirrus
clouds are critical, but these effects are complex and difficult to quantify by either in situ observations or
modeling approach. Extensive and systematic in situ measurements of contrail and contrail cirrus have
been extremely limited because of the requirement of high flying aircraft and the development of
accurate and durable sampling instruments. Modeling approaches, on the other hand, are limited by an
insufficient understanding of the physical and chemical processes that control the ice formation in the
presence of aerosols. Satellite remote sensing is a viable alternative to capture the indirect effects, but
research in this area is in its embryonic stage.

Last Edited by George B on 07/06/2011 01:13 PM

Grid line going east-west, north-south? Could these be evenly scheduled flights from point A-B, and C-D coming at even intervals . . .flight times?

Last Edited by George B on 07/06/2011 01:10 PM

Description of 2 Chicago events;
Thread: Chemtrails in Chicagoland 6-1-2011
Thread: Chem Trails in Chicagoland

Very interesting observations . . . if your observations are accurate it would be difficult to say where contrails can or cannot occur due to atmospheric mixing which is always possible, though the air masses can be very stable as well . . . that is the problem with observations . . . you don't have the micro environmental data to correlate with what you witnessed. As to the location of the trail as it comes off the aircraft . . . one has to always worry about vortex trails from control surfaces and edges . . . all together; however, what you have indicated is rather suspicious . . .

[link to www.faa.gov] page 39.

Contrails and the expansion of contrails into cirrus clouds occur in a supersaturated environment.
However, global distributions of supersaturation in the upper troposphere where aviation-produced
cirrus is likely to occur are not well known. MLS (Microwave Limb Sounder), AIRS (Atmospheric
Infrared Sounder) and TOVS (TIROS Operational Vertical Sounder) observations may provide
improved data for supersaturation analysis in the upper troposphere. However, current retrievals that are
adequate for water vapor and temperature measurements under sub-saturated conditions may not be
sufficient for supersaturated cases. Existing satellites do not have the horizontal or vertical resolution to
accurately define the frequency and extent of supersaturated regions. Required in the future is a remote
sounding instrument that measures both temperature and humidity with good vertical resolution and/or
can detect RH directly.

Last Edited by George B on 07/06/2011 02:19 PM

I guess you are the one who decides who is stupid . . .

Last Edited by George B on 07/06/2011 03:55 PM

I was smart enough to know it was you SNAKE . . .

:St Peter:

Newest version of Chemtrals FACT SHEET 6 July 2011. . .

IMO there are at least three types of CHEMTRAILS' . . .

1. Low grade TRAILs are the newer persistent Contrail: Most visible and thus the cause of much emotional responses . . . these are the majority of those seen and responded too. They are caused by long haul aircraft using high efficiency jet engines [link to www.jerryesmith.com] that produce exhaust aerosols higher in relative humidity and at lower temperatures than the older type engines. . [link to contrailscience.com] . . this results in more visible and persistent TRAILS than the earlier versions and along with the relative increase in long haul flights and the steady increase in the high efficiency engines' use the prevalence of the Trails and their public knowledge has also increased. [link to www.sciencedirect.com] This type of Trail follows the same atmospheric laws that contrails do . . . and cannot be distinguished from contrails, except they have a greater chance to be persistent and form cirrus cloud banks. These trails are not all together harmless because they have the potential to change the climate. [link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk] NOTE: They are indistinguishable from contrails. There is much data and knowledge known about this type of TRAIL. They have been studied in detail by IPCC [link to www.raes.org.uk] and [link to www.faa.gov] ,NASA [link to www.areco.org] and [link to afreserve.com] and [link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov] [link to www-pm.larc.nasa.gov] , NOAA [link to www.epa.gov] , and DOE.
[link to stopnwo.com] , The long term affects are the only thing in doubt. [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] and [link to consciouslifenews.com] [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.archive.org] High Efficiency bypass jet engines . . . [link to ozone-uv.defra.gov.uk] Paragraph: 3.3.2

2. Medium grade TRAILs: These TRAILS may or may not be visible (for the most part) and are made up of the aerosols used for cloud seeding [link to www.weathermodification.com] insecticide spraying [link to afreserve.com] , Chaff [link to www.globalsecurity.org] and other known missions of the military, water boards, corporations, etc.
[link to www.weathermodification.org] These are not as emotional usually because few people see them. However, these TRIALS have significant affects. They may result in rain, draughts, floods, high levels of toxic substances [link to www.youngstown.afrc.af.mil] and [link to www.gaylemclaughlin.net] in localized areas, power failures, storm and lightning alteration, etc. [link to maps.google.com] NOTE: There is much data and knowledge known about this type of TRAIL. The long term affects again are the only thing in doubt. Inadequate laws and
treaties make these TRAILS and the
damage they sometimes create very problematic. Courts have been very reluctant to award damages to persons harmed by the use of these aerosols i.e. cloud seeding operations. [link to www.rbs2.com] and [link to www.rbs2.com] and [link to www.whoi.edu]

3. High grade TRAILs: These TRAILS in my opinion (IMO) may or may not be visible but are released by methods to keep them camouflaged or invisible to the average citizen. IMO they would be dispersed at night or above heavy cloud cover, etc. and usually at rather high altitudes. These are used as countermeasures or detection systems to electromagnetic weather modification weapons (these weapons were mentioned by Secretary of Defense Cohen [link to en.wikipedia.org] and [link to www.fas.org] during the Clinton Administration), communication enhancements for over the horizon communication and surveillance. [link to www.scribd.com] . Other
possible uses are protection from EMP from solar storms , geoengineering operations or experiments [link to real-agenda.com] and [link to www.cfr.org] and experimentation for Riot Control over large areas of the country (which is permissible under US Code with informed consent . . really [link to en.wikipedia.org] ). NOTE: There is little or no hard
evidence known about this type of TRAIL . . . IMO there is a high probability they exist based upon inference because of history [link to en.wikipedia.org] , capability [link to www.youtube.com] , budget, patents [link to patft.uspto.gov]
Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrch​num.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5003186.PN.&OS=PN/5003186&RS=PN/50031​86 , scientific symposia [link to www.metatronics.net] , research [link to www.met.reading.ac.uk] , etc. The long term affects are completely unknown. [link to www.youtube.com]

Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2011 07:57 AM

So you don't feel you have accomplished your goal unless you get banned . . . that is real smart . . . and you call everyone else stupid . . .

The Internet Trolls post pseudoscience.

I have to wonder why I am not banned from posting the truth here like everywhere else on the Internet.

Hum... Maybe because I have pictures of everything I posted before they were removed.

@ George B, About your "High Grade Chemtrails"...
These are NOT the weapons Sec of Def Cohen was talking about.
Read the context again [link to www.fas.org]
He was warning about the danger of false scares.

You posting this (High Grade Chemtrails) is exactly what he was warning us about.

See [link to metabunk.org] for a complete discussion about the misuse of Cohen's words.

Do you see the irony about this?

This has all been explained to George.

He doesn't care.

I do not agree . . . There is a difference between listing threats which are potentially real and imaginary threats. . . .Secretary Cohen was listing threats which the Department of Defense would be required to take seriously . . . Ones which countermeasures and research in methods of defense would be appropriate and even required under the mission of the Department of Defense. Good analysis done by your source . . . However, I feel there are several ways the entire statement can be dissected and interpreted . . .I think Cohen was mixing several thoughts within his answer. . . .some speculative about intelligence sources . . .some speculative about technical threats . . . Some fear about real or potential threats. . . .. . . That is why I gave the source to let the reader decide . . .

Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2011 07:25 AM

See?

The statement says these weapons were mentioned by Secretary of Defense Cohen. . . . With a source of the entire transcript. . . .SNAKE . . . Give it up . . .

Yes the UN did . . . They drafted and ratified a treaty just for that reason. . . .

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Funny only states signed the treaty. . . . Not corporations, rogue scientists or terrorists groups . . .exactly as Cohen was referring!!!!!!

Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2011 08:07 AM

Who cares? I asked about the title of this thread.

Is that why the Member states of the UN signed a Treaty in 1978 because these threats were imaginary? So I am sure Secretary Cohen would not consider terrorist or rogue states capable of such abilities . . . . [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2011 08:23 AM

This thread/title isn't about whether or not someone believes it or whether or not chemtrails even exist. They do. I'm looking for new info about 1 or 2 documented Chicago chemtrail events that occurred.

As the OP I do control this thread, off-topic stuff will just be deleted.

George This contrail/chemtrail stuff is not that complicated is it?

Anyone who cannot discern a engine exhaust contrail from a wing aerosol spray pattern(chemical trail), shouldn't be involved here.

[Got Nothing]

If you have the visual aids to determine the source of the trail and can identify the engine configuration and air frame . . . I would say one can make certain assumptions.. . . would love to see someone be able to do just that . . .and document it with photos. . . .

Last Edited by George B on 07/07/2011 10:17 PM

I want to suggest to the Chemtrail believers since it has been banned and hammered on by the Internet Trolls.

What do you think about UAV's or drones doing the Chemtrails?

Also, if we really had any real people who fly airplanes they would tell us that prop-airplanes use different fuel than jets. The fuel is RED in color and needs a different fuel tanker.

And, if you are a FAA flight controller make sure you know what SF6 and chaff are! Come on.... You see that crap on radar to track those chemtrails.

And, talk about the FAA flight block list where you replace the call-sign and call-number with something else and release it to the public so we can not tell what flight did the chemtrails!

Us chemtrail believers read those GOV & MIL pdfs....

So, when people talk about airplanes they must know their stuff or call them out.

That is right I got nothing but the truth. Where are your pictures of chemtrails or the quotes of the people you talked to at NASA or the FAA.

Thanks for waiting up for me your shift ends soon. Do you work with Dianna too?

To your question of why us Chemtrail beliver's do thing is because:

WE WANT THE TRUTH ABOUT CHEMTRAILS. POST IT!

(1) Chemtrails are real but their are hired Internet Trolls and dis-prover's that tell us that we are crazy.

(2) What is this crap you spray and is it making us sick! Why do you do it and lie to us?

Nice.... Like I said before... Still no phone call?

You can make this all go away,

Waiting...

Don't disappoint me. I can track that information within a few minutes if I were you.

I might have to take your job because you suck; that is your motivation.

And track all the jpg's I posted.

Like I said, there are paid Internet Trolls and dis-information agents everywhere to tell you that you are crazy.

People wake up that CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL; LOOK UP AT THE SKY. Those trails that last for hours are chemtrials.

START THE CEHMTRAIL REVOLUTION

By a digital camera and a spotting scope at least 60x75mm to spot those planes and post the pictures on the Internet.

No communication and no love; maybe someday.

No real people or real clear blue skys.

Do not think you are alone chemtrail believers because we know the truth.