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New Global Warming Denier organisation started in Australia

 
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Some people in Australia have started a new Global Warming Denier organisation, called the Galileo Movement. As you would expect, some people are not very happy about this.


The Galileo Movement.

This group's leaders aren't merely sceptical about mainstream climate science - they outright deny that the world is warming (the thermometers are in the wrong place). They scoff at the idea that human activity can cause warming (carbon dioxide is just plant food); and they even reject that global warming could be harmful (relax, do nothing - it's natural).

Instead, they fervently believe that it's all part of a secret ideological conspiracy by corrupt scientists using fake data to collude with greenies, socialists, libertarians and the United Nations to falsely alarm the gullible and enrich themselves by stealing our money and sovereignty. Fair dinkum.

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06/02/2011 06:32 AM
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How are they deniers? First to deny something it has to be proven with facts beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yet this has never been done, there is no way to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court.
Therefore calling these people deniers is like calling climate change alarmists "promoters" of an ideology.
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06/02/2011 06:33 AM
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Bob Beale aka paid to post reporter.
Send him a bank wire, he will write anything you want him to.
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How are they deniers? First to deny something it has to be proven with facts beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yet this has never been done, there is no way to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court.
Therefore calling these people deniers is like calling climate change alarmists "promoters" of an ideology.
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Look!! They are denying stuff!!!


"Did you know that reports by the UN's climate body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC are the basis of the Rudd-Gillard and Greens climate policies?

* 4,000 scientists did not claim human production of CO2 caused global warming. Only 5 IPCC reviewers endorsed its core claim - and there's doubt they were even scientists;

* For its 1995 report, UN IPCC scientists advised five times there was no evidence of humans causing warming. Yet IPCC politicians' reported to national governments and media: "The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate";

* UN IPCC data on the air's carbon dioxide (CO2) levels show carbon dioxide is a consequence of temperature, not a cause. This is true for every period in Earth's history and over every duration;

* The 2007 report's sole chapter claiming warming and attributing it to humans contains no specific scientifically measured real-world evidence (AR4, chapter 9) for its claim. It relies on computer models programmed to predict warming. Yet cooling has occurred;

* The UN IPCC chairman repeatedly publicly claims the IPCC uses 100% scientifically peer-reviewed literature. Yet its 2007 report cites and relies on 5,587 references not peer-reviewed - including hikers' stories, newspaper articles and political activists' campaign material;"

[link to www.galileomovement.com.au]
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How are they deniers? First to deny something it has to be proven with facts beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yet this has never been done, there is no way to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court.
Therefore calling these people deniers is like calling climate change alarmists "promoters" of an ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393757


Look!! They are denying stuff!!!



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410634


Denying stuff? Or giving their opinion based upon their facts?
How is that denying? Its the same as the other side does, except they use no facts, only propaganda and altered data.
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How are they deniers? First to deny something it has to be proven with facts beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yet this has never been done, there is no way to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court.
Therefore calling these people deniers is like calling climate change alarmists "promoters" of an ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393757


Look!! They are denying stuff!!!


"Did you know that reports by the UN's climate body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC are the basis of the Rudd-Gillard and Greens climate policies?

* 4,000 scientists did not claim human production of CO2 caused global warming. Only 5 IPCC reviewers endorsed its core claim - and there's doubt they were even scientists;

* For its 1995 report, UN IPCC scientists advised five times there was no evidence of humans causing warming. Yet IPCC politicians' reported to national governments and media: "The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate";

* UN IPCC data on the air's carbon dioxide (CO2) levels show carbon dioxide is a consequence of temperature, not a cause. This is true for every period in Earth's history and over every duration;

* The 2007 report's sole chapter claiming warming and attributing it to humans contains no specific scientifically measured real-world evidence (AR4, chapter 9) for its claim. It relies on computer models programmed to predict warming. Yet cooling has occurred;

* The UN IPCC chairman repeatedly publicly claims the IPCC uses 100% scientifically peer-reviewed literature. Yet its 2007 report cites and relies on 5,587 references not peer-reviewed - including hikers' stories, newspaper articles and political activists' campaign material;"

[link to www.galileomovement.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410634


The point is, many of these so called "facts" can be proven to be mostly lies.
They would not stand up in a court of law, they would be disproved and struck out as evidence.
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06/02/2011 06:42 AM
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Denying stuff? Or giving their opinion based upon their facts?
How is that denying? Its the same as the other side does, except they use no facts, only propaganda and altered data.
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They are denying that global warming is real!!!! Surely you know the rules. If somebody says global warming isn't real, they are a DENIER!!!!
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06/02/2011 06:43 AM
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They are denying that global warming is real!!!!
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NO!!! They are stating FACTS!!!
You know the truth? Based on facts?
Remember that? Or have you lived in lies so long you have forgotten what that is?
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Re: New Global Warming Denier organisation started in Australia

Some people in Australia have started a new Global Warming Denier organisation, called the Galileo Movement. As you would expect, some people are not very happy about this.


The Galileo Movement.

This group's leaders aren't merely sceptical about mainstream climate science - they outright deny that the world is warming (the thermometers are in the wrong place). They scoff at the idea that human activity can cause warming (carbon dioxide is just plant food); and they even reject that global warming could be harmful (relax, do nothing - it's natural).

Instead, they fervently believe that it's all part of a secret ideological conspiracy by corrupt scientists using fake data to collude with greenies, socialists, libertarians and the United Nations to falsely alarm the gullible and enrich themselves by stealing our money and sovereignty. Fair dinkum.

[link to www.smh.com.au]
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There is no doubt that our planet is going through what we call global warming but if it is caused by mans impact on the enviornment why are most of the planets in our solar system also in the process of global warming
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How are they deniers? First to deny something it has to be proven with facts beyond a reasonable doubt.
Yet this has never been done, there is no way to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court.
Therefore calling these people deniers is like calling climate change alarmists "promoters" of an ideology.
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clappa

This is one of the most intelligent comments I have read this am!
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Some people in Australia have started a new Global Warming Fact Stating organisation, called the Galileo Movement.
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Now now, that's better, don't you think?
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06/02/2011 06:50 AM
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Why would there be a group like this when it is still to be proven.

The earth is getting colder on a global scale not hotter.

Ice core samples taken from the north pole tells the story of a cycle, we have been here before. So did they burn fossil fuels way back then?

Prove it to me and then maybe I will join in the denying.
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Some people in Australia have started a new Global Warming Fact Stating organisation, called the Galileo Movement.
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Now now, that's better, don't you think?
 Quoting: BIG DOG 1411192


You like facts? You said Richard Linden resigned from some panel because he was ashamed of telling lies. Which panel, and where is his resignation so we can read it?
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Denying stuff? Or giving their opinion based upon their facts?
How is that denying? Its the same as the other side does, except they use no facts, only propaganda and altered data.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393757

They are denying that global warming is real!!!! Surely you know the rules. If somebody says global warming isn't real, they are a DENIER!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410634


NO! YOU ARE THE DENYER THAT WE ARE PART OF A MUCH LARGER NATURAL CYCLE.

YOU are the denyer matey.
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Its not just Australia where there are "Skeptics".

[link to www.climatescience.org.nz]

And as for the term "Denier", isn't that a jewish thing used to stop people from asking questions ?.....I don't trust anyone who uses that terminology.
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06/02/2011 06:55 AM
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Why would there be a group like this when it is still to be proven.
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Because they are just stating facts, that it is not proven, because it is not.
Yet how do they get labelled as denying something, that has not yet been established as a proven fact?
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Its not just Australia where there are "Skeptics".
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How can you be a skeptic of something unless its already been proven 100% to be factual?
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OP IS DEFINATELY A PAID GOVERNMENT SHILL!!!!!

ATM WE ARE HAVING A HEATED DEBATE ABOUT A CARBON TAX AND THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!

GIVE US A REFERENDUM YOU SCUM SUCKING LIZZARD FREAKS!!

WHY DO I BOTHER YOU WILL RIG ANY VOTE BECAUSE YOU KEEP IT A SECRET BALLOT!! ASSHOLES.
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NO! YOU ARE THE DENYER THAT WE ARE PART OF A MUCH LARGER NATURAL CYCLE.

YOU are the denyer matey.
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NO Matey, no!! I'm not denying anything!!! This is a fact, there is a story in the newspaper about a new Global Warming Denier Organisation!!! FACT!!!1
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Some people in Australia have started a new Global Warming Fact Stating organisation, called the Galileo Movement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410634


Now now, that's better, don't you think?
 Quoting: BIG DOG 1411192


You like facts? You said Richard Linden resigned from some panel because he was ashamed of telling lies. Which panel, and where is his resignation so we can read it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393757


HE DID!!! And so did 3000 other scientists!!!
And the IPCC still published the lies with their names on it!!
And some of them even took them to court and had them ordered to take their names off it!!
The scientists did not right the IPCC report, it was written by 4-5 people on the payroll of the bankers.
And they left out and edited all the scientific information from these scientists.
And make it into a report stating climate change was real.
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NO! YOU ARE THE DENYER THAT WE ARE PART OF A MUCH LARGER NATURAL CYCLE.

YOU are the denyer matey.
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NO Matey, no!! I'm not denying anything!!! This is a fact, there is a story in the newspaper about a new Global Warming Fact Stating Organisation!!! FACT!!!1
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That's better im really getting sick of correcting your mistakes you know?
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Its not just Australia where there are "Skeptics".
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How can you be a skeptic of something unless its already been proven 100% to be factual?
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EASY!! Do you believe that space aliens visit us in UFOs? It hasn't been proven 100% that they do! Do you believe that they do, or are you SKEPTICAL???
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Now now, that's better, don't you think?
 Quoting: BIG DOG 1411192


You like facts? You said Richard Linden resigned from some panel because he was ashamed of telling lies. Which panel, and where is his resignation so we can read it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1393757


HE DID!!! And so did 3000 other scientists!!!
And the IPCC still published the lies with their names on it!!
And some of them even took them to court and had them ordered to take their names off it!!
The scientists did not right the IPCC report, it was written by 4-5 people on the payroll of the bankers.
And they left out and edited all the scientific information from these scientists.
And make it into a report stating climate change was real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410634


So if anybody asks, can we quote you on that? You were just complaining about people telling stories with no facts!!

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS???

* which panel???

* where is the resignation where he said he is resigning because of the lies?????

* play by your own rules!!! Post the FACTS!!!!!!1
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[link to www.climatedepot.com]

More than 1,000 dissenting scientists (updates previous 700 scientist report) from around the globe have now challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.
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There is ONE REASON to deny it. That is being trapped by corporate and big oil to believe their bullshit. I would not even trust government in the US about it since they wholly are dependable on the petro dollar.

Climate change has a human factor driving it. It is not the only thing influecing it, but it is there. Burning oil that has been forming over tens of thousands of years, releasing it all in hundred years in our environent.....ofcourse it has an affect.

There is a motivation NOT TO BELIEVE in it. The motivation is greed and fuckedup policy of the energy industry and US government.
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That's better im really getting sick of correcting your mistakes you know?
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I haven't made any mistakes!!! You assume I'm some sort of global warming believer just because I posted a story about the new Global Warming Denier Organisation, Galileo Movement!! That's a non sequitur!!!
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You like facts? You said Richard Linden resigned from some panel because he was ashamed of telling lies. Which panel, and where is his resignation so we can read it?
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HE DID!!! And so did 3000 other scientists!!!
And the IPCC still published the lies with their names on it!!
And some of them even took them to court and had them ordered to take their names off it!!
The scientists did not right the IPCC report, it was written by 4-5 people on the payroll of the bankers.
And they left out and edited all the scientific information from these scientists.
And make it into a report stating climate change was real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1410634


So if anybody asks, can we quote you on that? You were just complaining about people telling stories with no facts!!

WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS???

* which panel???

* where is the resignation where he said he is resigning because of the lies?????

* play by your own rules!!! Post the FACTS!!!!!!1
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IPCC report dummy.
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IPCC report criticized by one of its lead authors
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Just another front for the same right wing loonies. To them its not about climate science at all, it's about opposing anything promoted by the left or the greens.
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I haven't made any mistakes!!!
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Yes you HAVE!!!
You are calling people "deniers" of something that has never yet been established as a proven fact.
This is incorrect.
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Climate change has a human factor driving it. It is not the only thing influecing it, but it is there. Burning oil that has been forming over tens of thousands of years, releasing it all in hundred years in our environent.....ofcourse it has an affect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Of course it has an effect! It makes cars and trucks and trains and planes move! It makes electricity!!

Hey where did all that oil and coal come from anyway?
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Just another front for the same right wing loonies. To them its not about climate science at all, it's about opposing anything promoted by the left or the greens.
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Is that because everything, E V E R Y T H I N G, promoted by the left and the greens is a lie based on agendas for minority groups and socialist communist homosexual mental people?

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