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How much of the Population today is basically Brainwashed, Conformist Zombies?

 
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I heard some gents discussing the federal reserve and how America is broke as a joke with no more gold in the health food shop today, and it was a refreshing change of pace from overhearing drivel about Kim Kardashian, Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, FarceBook, and blah blah blah. Threw me for a loop.
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The 53% on the government tit are basically Brainwashed Conformist Zombies. They will vote for whatever keeps the checks coming. These are the useless eaters that will not survive the coming apocalypse. I, for one, will not miss them.
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I voted 80%+

I watch people and pay attention to things. most of them don't have a clue. even people that I thought would get it, fight the idea with blind vitriol and stonewalling denial.

I would guess 94%.
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Heres the million dollar question,

Can they wake up? Are they worth waking up if they can be?
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I'm not really sure of that answer, or answers. all I know is that I don't have the energy to do it.

I've tried to wake someone up, before, but it seems that they're grasping at the things that they love, clenching so tightly, that the focus remains right there. and they'll defend it like a mother Mongoose, protecting her young.

that's somebody else's job. I'm just a quiet passenger, along for the ride.
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You're wrong, you see the light and the rest are blind, then it's your responsibility to lead them.

You may get nowhere, but when you do break through to someone and set them on a new path in life, you will feel it was worth the effort.

Don't give up on them yet
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The 53% on the government tit are basically Brainwashed Conformist Zombies. They will vote for whatever keeps the checks coming. These are the useless eaters that will not survive the coming apocalypse. I, for one, will not miss them.
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You just hear this drivel on right wing media's vast stranglehold of television and radio.

It's just bullshit and you're an idiot for believing it.
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I voted 80%+

I watch people and pay attention to things. most of them don't have a clue. even people that I thought would get it, fight the idea with blind vitriol and stonewalling denial.

I would guess 94%.
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applause2

Heres the million dollar question,

Can they wake up? Are they worth waking up if they can be?
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People get violent or just shut down when their views on life are challenged. No one led us to the water, it came from within. WE wanted to seek knowledge. No matter what page we respectively are on, we are generally open minded people here, unafraid to listen to, and share, our own opinions and thoughts that are "outside the box". I'd say it's not even worth wasting yout time. Knowing human nature, they are only going to ignore you, or get angry and throw a fit. Either way, you waste your time.
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I voted 80%+

I watch people and pay attention to things. most of them don't have a clue. even people that I thought would get it, fight the idea with blind vitriol and stonewalling denial.

I would guess 94%.
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applause2

Heres the million dollar question,

Can they wake up? Are they worth waking up if they can be?
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I'm not really sure of that answer, or answers. all I know is that I don't have the energy to do it.

I've tried to wake someone up, before, but it seems that they're grasping at the things that they love, clenching so tightly, that the focus remains right there. and they'll defend it like a mother Mongoose, protecting her young.

that's somebody else's job. I'm just a quiet passenger, along for the ride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138009


You're wrong, you see the light and the rest are blind, then it's your responsibility to lead them.

You may get nowhere, but when you do break through to someone and set them on a new path in life, you will feel it was worth the effort.

Don't give up on them yet
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It gets difficult when people spend so much energy to wake people up and get attacked and ridiculed for it. So i see both viewpoints.
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I voted 80%+

I watch people and pay attention to things. most of them don't have a clue. even people that I thought would get it, fight the idea with blind vitriol and stonewalling denial.

I would guess 94%.
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applause2

Heres the million dollar question,

Can they wake up? Are they worth waking up if they can be?
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People get violent or just shut down when their views on life are challenged. No one led us to the water, it came from within. WE wanted to seek knowledge. No matter what page we respectively are on, we are generally open minded people here, unafraid to listen to, and share, our own opinions and thoughts that are "outside the box". I'd say it's not even worth wasting yout time. Knowing human nature, they are only going to ignore you, or get angry and throw a fit. Either way, you waste your time.
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Bring something as innocuous as this up in a conversation; obvious subliminal and subversive mind-control features in news programs. Repeating buzz words over and over and over within a 60 second block, flashing red and blue, the attention grabbing music and themes on the news shows on the news broadcasts, and they look at you like a deer in headlights. They look at the shit every night, and they still deny it's there and happening. It's impossible.
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I was at a thrift store and came across an old book about the federal reserve so I got in line to buy it. The woman next to me in line noticed the title and started going off about the federal reserve. I told her that I was well aware and she looked surprised that I already knew about it.

That was pretty cool.
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Bring something as innocuous as this up in a conversation; obvious subliminal and subversive mind-control features in news programs. Repeating buzz words over and over and over within a 60 second block, flashing red and blue, the attention grabbing music and themes on the news shows on the news broadcasts, and they look at you like a deer in headlights. They look at the shit every night, and they still deny it's there and happening. It's impossible.
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How many go to sleep with the TV on in the background.

The mind is ripe for programming during sleep.

Because your in alpha, or theta state, with the subconscious wide open for anchors.

Conversational hypnosis anyone?
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I was at a thrift store and came across an old book about the federal reserve so I got in line to buy it. The woman next to me in line noticed the title and started going off about the federal reserve. I told her that I was well aware and she looked surprised that I already knew about it.

That was pretty cool.
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Bring something as innocuous as this up in a conversation; obvious subliminal and subversive mind-control features in news programs. Repeating buzz words over and over and over within a 60 second block, flashing red and blue, the attention grabbing music and themes on the news shows on the news broadcasts, and they look at you like a deer in headlights. They look at the shit every night, and they still deny it's there and happening. It's impossible.
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How many go to sleep with the TV on in the background.

The mind is ripe for programming during sleep.

Because your in alpha, or theta state, with the subconscious wide open for anchors.

Conversational hypnosis anyone?
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I've been known to fall asleep with my Adult Swim anime block on. tounge

Some people, don't even seem to be aware that you can use the internet to get free books, free education, breaking news and other gems. It's just a tool to get to their FarceBooks and check their e-mails, and little more.

But... Maybe we are the crazy people, eh?
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Bring something as innocuous as this up in a conversation; obvious subliminal and subversive mind-control features in news programs. Repeating buzz words over and over and over within a 60 second block, flashing red and blue, the attention grabbing music and themes on the news shows on the news broadcasts, and they look at you like a deer in headlights. They look at the shit every night, and they still deny it's there and happening. It's impossible.
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How many go to sleep with the TV on in the background.

The mind is ripe for programming during sleep.

Because your in alpha, or theta state, with the subconscious wide open for anchors.

Conversational hypnosis anyone?
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I've been known to fall asleep with my Adult Swim anime block on. tounge

Some people, don't even seem to be aware that you can use the internet to get free books, free education, breaking news and other gems. It's just a tool to get to their FarceBooks and check their e-mails, and little more.

But... Maybe we are the crazy people, eh?
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They don't care enough to be aware.
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I think you would be quite suprised how many aren't.
Is this the population of the world or just the USA?
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Bring something as innocuous as this up in a conversation; obvious subliminal and subversive mind-control features in news programs. Repeating buzz words over and over and over within a 60 second block, flashing red and blue, the attention grabbing music and themes on the news shows on the news broadcasts, and they look at you like a deer in headlights. They look at the shit every night, and they still deny it's there and happening. It's impossible.
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How many go to sleep with the TV on in the background.

The mind is ripe for programming during sleep.

Because your in alpha, or theta state, with the subconscious wide open for anchors.

Conversational hypnosis anyone?
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I've been known to fall asleep with my Adult Swim anime block on. tounge

Some people, don't even seem to be aware that you can use the internet to get free books, free education, breaking news and other gems. It's just a tool to get to their FarceBooks and check their e-mails, and little more.

But... Maybe we are the crazy people, eh?
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Do you have any hemi-sync type tracks ?
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I think you would be quite suprised how many aren't.
Is this the population of the world or just the USA?
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The poll is for the World.

However i noticed your from Australia and would like to know your opinion on the US and Australia.

Thanks!
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I was at a thrift store and came across an old book about the federal reserve so I got in line to buy it. The woman next to me in line noticed the title and started going off about the federal reserve. I told her that I was well aware and she looked surprised that I already knew about it.

That was pretty cool.
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banana2
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You know, to make the argument that more and more people are waking up all the time, look at the increase in the listenership of Coast to Coast AM. That show went from being on short wave radio with Art Bell to being on major radio stations, syndicated natinally and internationally. The number of people who tune in is said the be in the millions.

Maybe more people are waking up all the time.

On another note, I have to wonder if, as one wakes up, there is a grieving process that we go through. Learning that the economy really is collapsing, that those in power are greedy with no regard for human life or the health of the environment (let alone the future of mankind or the planter). Learning that the system is in place not to help or protect, but to control us. It's not easy to cope with this change in your understanding of the nature of the world you live in.

Maybe the 80+% that are still asleep just choose to stay in the denial stage of the grieving process....
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I was at a thrift store and came across an old book about the federal reserve so I got in line to buy it. The woman next to me in line noticed the title and started going off about the federal reserve. I told her that I was well aware and she looked surprised that I already knew about it.

That was pretty cool.
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banana2
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You know, to make the argument that more and more people are waking up all the time, look at the increase in the listenership of Coast to Coast AM. That show went from being on short wave radio with Art Bell to being on major radio stations, syndicated natinally and internationally. The number of people who tune in is said the be in the millions.

Maybe more people are waking up all the time.

On another note, I have to wonder if, as one wakes up, there is a grieving process that we go through. Learning that the economy really is collapsing, that those in power are greedy with no regard for human life or the health of the environment (let alone the future of mankind or the planter). Learning that the system is in place not to help or protect, but to control us. It's not easy to cope with this change in your understanding of the nature of the world you live in.

Maybe the 80+% that are still asleep just choose to stay in the denial stage of the grieving process....
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Good points. Sure people choose to stay asleep, they admit it often. There like the guy in the Matrix that didn't want reality he felt better in the illusion and sold out his friends to get it back.

Imagine if you were raised a Christian, you felt you knew the truth and was very passionate about your beliefs. Then you find out most of the Beliefs of the Christian religion are based on older versions of Paganism, Astrology and other Secret Orders. And the people that started the Church designed it for control and unrest.

If your Christian i am not knocking your beliefs, everyone has their own path.
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I was at a thrift store and came across an old book about the federal reserve so I got in line to buy it. The woman next to me in line noticed the title and started going off about the federal reserve. I told her that I was well aware and she looked surprised that I already knew about it.

That was pretty cool.
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banana2
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You know, to make the argument that more and more people are waking up all the time, look at the increase in the listenership of Coast to Coast AM. That show went from being on short wave radio with Art Bell to being on major radio stations, syndicated natinally and internationally. The number of people who tune in is said the be in the millions.

Maybe more people are waking up all the time.

On another note, I have to wonder if, as one wakes up, there is a grieving process that we go through. Learning that the economy really is collapsing, that those in power are greedy with no regard for human life or the health of the environment (let alone the future of mankind or the planter). Learning that the system is in place not to help or protect, but to control us. It's not easy to cope with this change in your understanding of the nature of the world you live in.

Maybe the 80+% that are still asleep just choose to stay in the denial stage of the grieving process....
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Good points. Sure people choose to stay asleep, they admit it often. There like the guy in the Matrix that didn't want reality he felt better in the illusion and sold out his friends to get it back.

Imagine if you were raised a Christian, you felt you knew the truth and was very passionate about your beliefs. Then you find out most of the Beliefs of the Christian religion are based on older versions of Paganism, Astrology and other Secret Orders. And the people that started the Church designed it for control and unrest.

If your Christian i am not knocking your beliefs, everyone has their own path.
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I also have to wonder if, for those of us who are awake or in the waking up process, if being in those stages of grief is why so many of us seem to have a hard time coping in the world. Does that make sense?
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Brainwashing Techniques

In the late 1950s, psychologist Robert Jay Lifton studied former prisoners of Korean War and Chinese war camps. He determined that they'd undergone a multistep process that began with attacks on the prisoner's sense of self and ended with what appeared to be a change in beliefs. Lifton ultimately defined a set of steps involved in the brainwashing cases he studied:

1. Assault on identity
2. Guilt
3. Self-betrayal
4. Breaking point
5. Leniency
6. Compulsion to confess
7. Channeling of guilt
8. Releasing of guilt
9. Progress and harmony
10. Final confession and rebirth

We can roughly divide the process Lifton identified into three stages: breaking down the self, introducing the possibility of salvation, and rebuilding the self.

[link to health.howstuffworks.com]

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Brainwashing Techniques

In the late 1950s, psychologist Robert Jay Lifton studied former prisoners of Korean War and Chinese war camps. He determined that they'd undergone a multistep process that began with attacks on the prisoner's sense of self and ended with what appeared to be a change in beliefs. Lifton ultimately defined a set of steps involved in the brainwashing cases he studied:

1. Assault on identity
2. Guilt
3. Self-betrayal
4. Breaking point
5. Leniency
6. Compulsion to confess
7. Channeling of guilt
8. Releasing of guilt
9. Progress and harmony
10. Final confession and rebirth


We can roughly divide the process Lifton identified into three stages: breaking down the self, introducing the possibility of salvation, and rebuilding the self.

[link to health.howstuffworks.com]

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It's all so goddamn silly.

People are complacent and pacified, not because of some grand conspiracy, but because they have everything they need to live and survive. There is nothing else for a man to conquer once he has a house, food, and protection. The entertainment industry is a result of the lack of pursuit of anything else.

You have these also - yet, your greed and ego desires something more! There has to be something more! Living peacefully and having a home and job just isn't enough! You have to tear it all down out of some narcissic barbarism. You want the world to end because you hate it. You're a nilihist that seeks spirituality in destruction.
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It's all so goddamn silly.

People are complacent and pacified, not because of some grand conspiracy, but because they have everything they need to live and survive. There is nothing else for a man to conquer once he has a house, food, and protection. The entertainment industry is a result of the lack of pursuit of anything else.

You have these also - yet, your greed and ego desires something more! There has to be something more! Living peacefully and having a home and job just isn't enough! You have to tear it all down out of some narcissic barbarism. You want the world to end because you hate it. You're a nilihist that seeks spirituality in destruction.
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Here in Northern CA (San Jose) it seems that only about maybe 10% are aware. Of those, few will dare speak.

There is much hatred of the truth.

My boss will still fire me and ruin my career if he hears me talking about WTC7 again!
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Tell your "Boss" that some anonymous guy on the internet
(who lives in his moms basement) thinks that (whoever your boss is) is a braindead PIECE OF SHIT COCKSUCKER. (not that there's anything wrong with it)
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Here in Northern CA (San Jose) it seems that only about maybe 10% are aware. Of those, few will dare speak.

There is much hatred of the truth.

My boss will still fire me and ruin my career if he hears me talking about WTC7 again!
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Tell your "Boss" that some anonymous guy on the internet
(who lives in his moms basement) thinks that (whoever your boss is) is a braindead PIECE OF SHIT COCKSUCKER. (not that there's anything wrong with it)
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Brainwashing Techniques

We can roughly divide the process Lifton identified into three stages: breaking down the self, introducing the possibility of salvation, and rebuilding the self.

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sounds like basic training to me.
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Brainwashing Techniques

We can roughly divide the process Lifton identified into three stages: breaking down the self, introducing the possibility of salvation, and rebuilding the self.

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sounds like basic training to me.
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Here in Northern CA (San Jose) it seems that only about maybe 10% are aware. Of those, few will dare speak.

There is much hatred of the truth.

My boss will still fire me and ruin my career if he hears me talking about WTC7 again!
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yeap silicon valley tards need to slave away to pay their still inflated housing, no time to think
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Here in Northern CA (San Jose) it seems that only about maybe 10% are aware. Of those, few will dare speak.

There is much hatred of the truth.

My boss will still fire me and ruin my career if he hears me talking about WTC7 again!
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yeap silicon valley tards need to slave away to pay their still inflated housing, no time to think
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What happens when more people default on their mortgage then pay it ?
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