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***[WOW]7,000 years older than Stonehenge Site found[Archeology]***

 
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture

As a child, Klaus Schmidt used to grub around in caves in his native Germany in the hope of finding prehistoric paintings. Thirty years later, a member of the German Archaeological Institute, he found something infinitely more important: a temple complex almost twice as old as anything comparable on the planet.

"This place is a supernova," said Schmidt, standing under a lone tree on a windswept hilltop 35 miles north of Turkey's border with Syria. "Within a minute of first seeing it I knew I had two choices: go away and tell nobody, or spend the rest of my life working here.
www dot guardian dot co dot uk/science/2008/apr/23/archaeology.turkey
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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But I'm a bit suspicious for it to be anywhere near on the calender....now please don't which calender!!
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture


The above is a misleading statement by the media in the OP's OP.

The discovery proves that scientists don't know as much as they think they do and that discoveries are still being made. Most likely agriculture came about at a time that scientists are unaware of.

Elaborately carved stones and temples speak of organized religious rites at some point. People with no food cannot sit around carving stones. They would have to expend efforts hunting/growing food.

Good article otherwise. Thanks for posting OP.
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture


The above is a misleading statement by the media in the OP's OP.

The discovery proves that scientists don't know as much as they think they do and that discoveries are still being made. Most likely agriculture came about at a time that scientists are unaware of.

Elaborately carved stones and temples speak of organized religious rites at some point. People with no food cannot sit around carving stones. They would have to expend efforts hunting/growing food.

Good article otherwise. Thanks for posting OP.
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I just hoped if these so called scientists really had a little of yours brain!
Things which are quite obvious do not get into head so obviously!

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Hey how did the bannanas get so big?
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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Pretty much, earth is much older than we are told, and subject to calamity every several thousand years. I think we are there about now. Elites and TPTB know this and they are prepared.
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the dancing bananas are hurting my eyes!!!
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the dancing bananas are hurting my eyes!!!
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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Pretty much, earth is much older than we are told, and subject to calamity every several thousand years. I think we are there about now. Elites and TPTB know this and they are prepared.
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They THINK they are prepared! Just who did they ASK about preps? If 'technology' is their SAVIOR, they WON'T make it!
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Oh the irony...Look at Syria's civilization today. I'm not religious but as far as I am aware, Turkey is where what is believed to be Noah's Ark's resting ground.
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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True...Thats why I sleep better at night now! Cant wait for the show in 2012.
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture

As a child, Klaus Schmidt used to grub around in caves in his native Germany in the hope of finding prehistoric paintings. Thirty years later, a member of the German Archaeological Institute, he found something infinitely more important: a temple complex almost twice as old as anything comparable on the planet.

"This place is a supernova," said Schmidt, standing under a lone tree on a windswept hilltop 35 miles north of Turkey's border with Syria. "Within a minute of first seeing it I knew I had two choices: go away and tell nobody, or spend the rest of my life working here.
www dot guardian dot co dot uk/science/2008/apr/23/archaeology.turkey
[you know how to access that ^^]
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7000 years older than stonehenge ?

peh.

see this :

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

older than 9500 BC, mankind's known oldest place of worship.

and, was the place that was up right before wheat was first domesticated.
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some pictures, and a slightly annoying soundtrack:-
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doh im sorry. apparently that article was about gobeklitepe itself.
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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Pretty much, earth is much older than we are told, and subject to calamity every several thousand years. I think we are there about now. Elites and TPTB know this and they are prepared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1417004


Here's an online copy of Mme Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled, Volume 1.

[link to www.theosociety.org]

Do a keyword search for Aristotle.

At the close of each "great year," called by Aristotle — according to Censorinus — the greatest, and which consists of six sars* our planet is subjected to a thorough physical revolution. The polar and equatorial climates gradually exchange places; the former moving slowly toward the Line, and the tropical zone, with its exuberant vegetation and swarming animal life, replacing the forbidding wastes of the icy poles. This

[[Footnote(s)]] -------------------------------------------------
* Webster declares very erroneously that the Chaldeans called saros, the cycle of eclipses, a period of about 6,586 years, "the time of revolution of the moon's node." Berosus, himself a Chaldean astrologer, at the Temple of Belus, at Babylon, gives the duration of the sar, or sarus, 3,600 years; a neros 600; and a sossus 60. (See, Berosus from Abydenus, "Of the Chaldaean Kings and the Deluge." See also Eusebius, and Cory's MS. Ex. Cod. reg. gall. gr. No. 2360, fol. 154.)

[[Vol. 1, Page]] 31 THE NEROSES, YUGAS AND KALPAS.
change of climate is necessarily attended by cataclysms, earthquakes, and other cosmical throes.* As the beds of the ocean are displaced, at the end of every decimillennium and about one neros, a semi-universal deluge like the legendary Noachian flood is brought about. This year was called the Heliacal by the Greeks; but no one outside the sanctuary knew anything certain either as to its duration or particulars. The winter of this year was called the Cataclysm or the Deluge, — the Summer, the Ecpyrosis. The popular traditions taught that at these alternate seasons the world was in turn burned and deluged. This is what we learn at least from the Astronomical Fragments of Censorinus and Seneca. So uncertain were the commentators about the length of this year, that none except Herodotus and Linus, who assigned to it, the former 10,800, and the latter 13,984, came near the truth.** According to the claims of the Babylonian priests, corroborated by Eupolemus,*** "the city of Babylon, owes its foundation to those who were saved from the catastrophe of the deluge; they were the giants and they built the tower which is noticed in history."**** These giants who were great astrologers and had received moreover from their fathers, "the sons of God," every instruction pertaining to secret matters, instructed the priests in their turn, and left in the temples all the records of the periodical cataclysm that they had witnessed themselves. This is how the high priests came by the knowledge of the great years. When we remember, moreover, that Plato in the Timaeus cites the old Egyptian priest rebuking Solon for his ignorance of the fact that there were several such deluges as the great one of Ogyges, we can easily ascertain that this belief in the Heliakos was a doctrine held by the initiated priests the world over.
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Still think the war in Iraq was about oil? If so, why was the first thing that was accomplished there the looting of the museum. Perhaps Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' wasn't about Saddam or ruling Iraq, but was a secret message to the elites that they'd managed to find or hide or destroy what they needed to.
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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Pretty much, earth is much older than we are told, and subject to calamity every several thousand years. I think we are there about now. Elites and TPTB know this and they are prepared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1417004


Here's an online copy of Mme Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled, Volume 1.

[link to www.theosociety.org]

Do a keyword search for Aristotle.

At the close of each "great year," called by Aristotle — according to Censorinus — the greatest, and which consists of six sars* our planet is subjected to a thorough physical revolution. The polar and equatorial climates gradually exchange places; the former moving slowly toward the Line, and the tropical zone, with its exuberant vegetation and swarming animal life, replacing the forbidding wastes of the icy poles. This

[[Footnote(s)]] -------------------------------------------------
* Webster declares very erroneously that the Chaldeans called saros, the cycle of eclipses, a period of about 6,586 years, "the time of revolution of the moon's node." Berosus, himself a Chaldean astrologer, at the Temple of Belus, at Babylon, gives the duration of the sar, or sarus, 3,600 years; a neros 600; and a sossus 60. (See, Berosus from Abydenus, "Of the Chaldaean Kings and the Deluge." See also Eusebius, and Cory's MS. Ex. Cod. reg. gall. gr. No. 2360, fol. 154.)

[[Vol. 1, Page]] 31 THE NEROSES, YUGAS AND KALPAS.
change of climate is necessarily attended by cataclysms, earthquakes, and other cosmical throes.* As the beds of the ocean are displaced, at the end of every decimillennium and about one neros, a semi-universal deluge like the legendary Noachian flood is brought about. This year was called the Heliacal by the Greeks; but no one outside the sanctuary knew anything certain either as to its duration or particulars. The winter of this year was called the Cataclysm or the Deluge, — the Summer, the Ecpyrosis. The popular traditions taught that at these alternate seasons the world was in turn burned and deluged. This is what we learn at least from the Astronomical Fragments of Censorinus and Seneca. So uncertain were the commentators about the length of this year, that none except Herodotus and Linus, who assigned to it, the former 10,800, and the latter 13,984, came near the truth.** According to the claims of the Babylonian priests, corroborated by Eupolemus,*** "the city of Babylon, owes its foundation to those who were saved from the catastrophe of the deluge; they were the giants and they built the tower which is noticed in history."**** These giants who were great astrologers and had received moreover from their fathers, "the sons of God," every instruction pertaining to secret matters, instructed the priests in their turn, and left in the temples all the records of the periodical cataclysm that they had witnessed themselves. This is how the high priests came by the knowledge of the great years. When we remember, moreover, that Plato in the Timaeus cites the old Egyptian priest rebuking Solon for his ignorance of the fact that there were several such deluges as the great one of Ogyges, we can easily ascertain that this belief in the Heliakos was a doctrine held by the initiated priests the world over.
 Quoting: isis unveiled


Still think the war in Iraq was about oil? If so, why was the first thing that was accomplished there the looting of the museum. Perhaps Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' wasn't about Saddam or ruling Iraq, but was a secret message to the elites that they'd managed to find or hide or destroy what they needed to.
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some pictures, and a slightly annoying soundtrack:-

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gotta admit the soundtrack is really annoying
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please, dont propagate your middle eastern religious shit over this. this is an important find for humanity.

there is no place for fucked up middle eastern cults like islam or christianity in this.
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Keep digging on this one.

No human bones at the site. No human tools. Depictions of humans decapitated. A "theme" of aggressive animals. The nearby human settlement had what can be described as pits for humans to be kept and slaughtered, babies found in jars, and evidence of roasting people in bronze pans.

Then, whoever built and ran this site, intentionally buried it with tonnes of sand. Keeping it a secret.

Who were they and what were they doing?

Were they the "gods" to the local humans? And did they eat people?
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Keep digging on this one.

No human bones at the site. No human tools. Depictions of humans decapitated. A "theme" of aggressive animals. The nearby human settlement had what can be described as pits for humans to be kept and slaughtered, babies found in jars, and evidence of roasting people in bronze pans.

Then, whoever built and ran this site, intentionally buried it with tonnes of sand. Keeping it a secret.

Who were they and what were they doing?

Were they the "gods" to the local humans? And did they eat people?
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dont forcibly jack up fucked up conspiracy theories.

read and learn first

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it was abandoned/buried, and revisited over and over over a course of thousands of years starting 9500 bc. it is probable that there were gatherings there before 9500 bc too.

that age was an age at which all mankind was migratory. only permanent societies were ones who lived near always readily available sources of food.

apparently you are not able to fathom what 'BEFORE domestication of wheat' means.

back then people had to migrate to eat food in winter/summer. you couldnt stay in one place for long.

and during migrations, best way to hide something is to bury it, if you know its place to uncover it later.
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After every pole shift we basically have to start over...once you realize that, it all starts to make sense...
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This...we sure live in interesting times.
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture


The above is a misleading statement by the media in the OP's OP.

The discovery proves that scientists don't know as much as they think they do and that discoveries are still being made. Most likely agriculture came about at a time that scientists are unaware of.

Elaborately carved stones and temples speak of organized religious rites at some point. People with no food cannot sit around carving stones. They would have to expend efforts hunting/growing food.

Good article otherwise. Thanks for posting OP.
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These circles may not be what everyone thinks. Check out this article about a new solar energy station that works at night:

....looks like a giant art project. But this symmetrical, circular pattern of mirrored panels is the world's first solar power station that generates electricity at night.
The Gemasolar Power Plant near Seville in southern Spain consists of an incredible 2,650 panels spread across 185 hectares of rural land.
The mirrors - known as heliostats - focus 95 per cent of the sun's radiation onto a giant receiver at the centre of the plant.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Look at the picture - maybe the ancients had similar technology once.
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture

As a child, Klaus Schmidt used to grub around in caves in his native Germany in the hope of finding prehistoric paintings. Thirty years later, a member of the German Archaeological Institute, he found something infinitely more important: a temple complex almost twice as old as anything comparable on the planet.

"This place is a supernova," said Schmidt, standing under a lone tree on a windswept hilltop 35 miles north of Turkey's border with Syria. "Within a minute of first seeing it I knew I had two choices: go away and tell nobody, or spend the rest of my life working here.
www dot guardian dot co dot uk/science/2008/apr/23/archaeology.turkey
[you know how to access that ^^]
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Awesome pictures too.
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Keep digging on this one.

No human bones at the site. No human tools. Depictions of humans decapitated. A "theme" of aggressive animals. The nearby human settlement had what can be described as pits for humans to be kept and slaughtered, babies found in jars, and evidence of roasting people in bronze pans.
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and back in neolithic, people were burying their dead in big jars/pots. that was the highest available form of technology back then.

'evidence of roasting people in bronze pans', has probably snuck up into your ass when you took crap last time. since you pulled it out there.
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Keep digging on this one.

No human bones at the site. No human tools. Depictions of humans decapitated. A "theme" of aggressive animals. The nearby human settlement had what can be described as pits for humans to be kept and slaughtered, babies found in jars, and evidence of roasting people in bronze pans.

Then, whoever built and ran this site, intentionally buried it with tonnes of sand. Keeping it a secret.

Who were they and what were they doing?

Were they the "gods" to the local humans? And did they eat people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185535


dont forcibly jack up fucked up conspiracy theories.

read and learn first

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it was abandoned/buried, and revisited over and over over a course of thousands of years starting 9500 bc. it is probable that there were gatherings there before 9500 bc too.

that age was an age at which all mankind was migratory. only permanent societies were ones who lived near always readily available sources of food.

apparently you are not able to fathom what 'BEFORE domestication of wheat' means.

back then people had to migrate to eat food in winter/summer. you couldnt stay in one place for long.

and during migrations, best way to hide something is to bury it, if you know its place to uncover it later.
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I've read more on this than you know and have gone beyond getting my info from Wiki. But you can believe that people with stone axes wearing animal skins built this all by themselves for religious purposes if you like, just like the Nazca lines are nothing more than labyrinths made for meditative purposes and the purpose of pyramids was simply to bury the dead. ;)
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Circles of elaborately carved stones from about 9,500BC predate even agriculture


The above is a misleading statement by the media in the OP's OP.

The discovery proves that scientists don't know as much as they think they do and that discoveries are still being made. Most likely agriculture came about at a time that scientists are unaware of.

Elaborately carved stones and temples speak of organized religious rites at some point. People with no food cannot sit around carving stones. They would have to expend efforts hunting/growing food.

Good article otherwise. Thanks for posting OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1414128


These circles may not be what everyone thinks. Check out this article about a new solar energy station that works at night:

....looks like a giant art project. But this symmetrical, circular pattern of mirrored panels is the world's first solar power station that generates electricity at night.
The Gemasolar Power Plant near Seville in southern Spain consists of an incredible 2,650 panels spread across 185 hectares of rural land.
The mirrors - known as heliostats - focus 95 per cent of the sun's radiation onto a giant receiver at the centre of the plant.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Look at the picture - maybe the ancients had similar technology once.
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hahahahahahahahahahaah


awww mannn. come OOOOOOOOOOOON.


you people really crack me up with excessive forcing out of conspiracy theories sometimes.

not EVERYthing is a conspiracy.

this, was a fucking worship site of migratory neolithic people, who hunted/gathered for food.

in case you didnt notice, the T shaped statues are actually statues of people. there are arm like carvings extending from their top, and they seem to be carrying various hunted animals under their arms.

you shouldnt attribute silly stuff to these. the people are represented as Ts, because this was the highest form of articulate art back 9500 bc.

yes, there has been local cultures which had higher accomplishments in portraying people and objects. but, that was not a common feat.
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I've read more on this than you know and have gone beyond getting my info from Wiki. But you can believe that people with stone axes wearing animal skins built this all by themselves for religious purposes if you like, just like the Nazca lines are nothing more than labyrinths made for meditative purposes and the purpose of pyramids was simply to bury the dead. ;)
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you didnt read more than this than me, moron.

i LIVE in this country, and i have HAD saw/read/learned/visited much more than what you can read from fucking web.

yes, people with stone axes wearing animal skins built ALL these. they built a lot of other stuff too.

not everything you see is an ancient lost civilization/conspiracy.

yes, neolithic cultures were advanced enough to carve fucking stones into T shapes to portray humans.

it is as much art as they could, and you will see the same kind of artistic capacity in the carvings of milo venuses etc from the same neolithic periods.

i know that because these seem like distant, mystic stuff to most of you living overseas, and hence kicks up your imagination.

but when you actually visit the places which these were found, the caves, structures, clay houses etc, and see such stuff in places where they were in ACTUAL use (ie in small stands/altars in clay houses), and see the shit of the people living there 6000 years ago by the same place, frozen in time for eternity, you know that these were not overarching lost civilizations or conspiracies.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: ***[WOW]7,000 years older than Stonehenge Site found[Archeology]***
A bit of info on Cayonu, Turkey- near Gobekli Tepe:

[link to www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk]

'In Çayönü from the earliest monumental buildings, or special buildings it is clear that they were doing something with some kind of liquid. As for the earliest one, the Flagstone Building, it is certain that the floor was polished and even in order to get some kind of flooding, and also in the Sandstone Building there was a water channel going through it, and the Terrazzo Building also had a kind of channel drainage. So was it blood, or water or wine? It is difficult to say, but considering the presence of the Skull Building it seems more the nastier end of the story than the nicer end. Also in Çayönü, we had in one building these parts of a burial – not a complete skeleton – intentionally put in a clay coffin above the ground, with some tools associated. It was the strangest grave we got and it must have had something to do with the function of that building'. (3)


Gobekli is also in the region where the Sumerians later claimed the gods came down from the mountains.
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Re: ***[WOW]7,000 years older than Stonehenge Site found[Archeology]***
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

catalhoyuk is a city/settlement from 7500 BC. it is only 2000 years younger than gobeklitepe, which the article that this thread talks about describes.

this is just a few thousand years (or maybe even at most 1.5 k years) after domestication of wheat.

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