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A must see for you if you live in the US:Civil Forfeiture Highway Shakedowns

 
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Talk about fucked up. The corrupt scum want the dealers to sell the shit for them, and steal the cash afterwards. The sheep will continue to let this type of behavior happen, they deserve all they receive. punch the motherfuckers in the face as soon as they walk up to rob you.

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bump for relevance.

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fuck the south
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 Quoting: Bean There 188611


Thank you!!!!!!!!
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bumpbumpbump
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Suggest to Pin - vids like this needs to be spread out more to wake people up.
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Suggest to Pin - vids like this needs to be spread out more to wake people up.
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+ millions and millions...^This
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AJ is ranting about almost the same thing..bump
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Two states I will never travel through, Tennessee and Indiana.
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REMEMBER: Every "state" in the U.S. is actually a CORPORATION (as is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA). And what is the GOAL of EVERY corporation? To make a profit....
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Its obvious that law enforcement is not what these officers are interested in. They will do whatever they have to do, and whatever the legislators and policeeee makers tell them to do, in order for all of them to keep their jobs. Was driving in Nevada a week ago and a PU truck passed me doing well over the 55 mph speed limit. I was doing 58 mph in cruise control and he passed me like I was standing still. As he approached the top of a rise an NHP officer was parked off to the side of the road with his radar out. The PU truck did not put on his brakes and didn't appear to slow down, yet when I went by doing 58 mph he pulled out and followed me for at least 5 miles. My vehicle has CA plates while the PU had NV plates. Hmmm. Just sayin'.
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Its obvious that law enforcement is not what these officers are interested in. They will do whatever they have to do, and whatever the legislators and policeeee makers tell them to do, in order for all of them to keep their jobs. Was driving in Nevada a week ago and a PU truck passed me doing well over the 55 mph speed limit. I was doing 58 mph in cruise control and he passed me like I was standing still. As he approached the top of a rise an NHP officer was parked off to the side of the road with his radar out. The PU truck did not put on his brakes and didn't appear to slow down, yet when I went by doing 58 mph he pulled out and followed me for at least 5 miles. My vehicle has CA plates while the PU had NV plates. Hmmm. Just sayin'.
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I see your point.bump
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USA! USA! USA!
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USA! USA! USA!
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lol
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IMHO I thought this was a tad bit more important than eating dirt, but who am I anyway..pin fail for the corrupt police state marauders. Guess I'll go eat dirt, seems to be very important beings it's pinned and all.

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 Quoting: Bean There 188611


Thank you!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: deermeat2112

You're welcome.

This Civil Forfeiture racket has been going on a long time. Picked up considerable speed in advent of the "war on drugs" and has spread to many areas.

Down in Louisiana a few years ago a fellow had his car taken because a "dent" in the bottom of his frame "could have been used to smuggle drugs". Could have been used to hit a rock on the back roads too, but Out of State out of Luck.

Somewhere else anyone with over 100 in cash would also have their money taken on the spot. Not even left with the 100 unsuspected dollars.

The Out of State angle is pretty universal. You're not likely to come back to defend. Pay up or show up. Don't show and BINGO! Instant bench warrant.

Also a few years back, fellow was traveling by plane to order and pay for live plant stock for his greenhouse business. No baggage made him a suspect. One way ticket also does the trick. The greens man and produce business is mostly cash and carry. Perishable items and about 40% waste loss in the produce side. Didn't matter to the Cops on the landing site.
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You're welcome.

This Civil Forfeiture racket has been going on a long time. Picked up considerable speed in advent of the "war on drugs" and has spread to many areas.

Down in Louisiana a few years ago a fellow had his car taken because a "dent" in the bottom of his frame "could have been used to smuggle drugs". Could have been used to hit a rock on the back roads too, but Out of State out of Luck.

Somewhere else anyone with over 100 in cash would also have their money taken on the spot. Not even left with the 100 unsuspected dollars.

The Out of State angle is pretty universal. You're not likely to come back to defend. Pay up or show up. Don't show and BINGO! Instant bench warrant.

Also a few years back, fellow was traveling by plane to order and pay for live plant stock for his greenhouse business. No baggage made him a suspect. One way ticket also does the trick. The greens man and produce business is mostly cash and carry. Perishable items and about 40% waste loss in the produce side. Didn't matter to the Cops on the landing site.
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Just simply nut's!

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They're trying to get everyone to stop carrying cash. In a cashless society, they can track every purchase and control you even better than they do now.
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The thing that really show this for what it is is the fact that these "drug dealers" aren't being arrested, they're just having their money taken and then being sent on their way. I just wonder what percentage of the money stolen goes straight into the cop's wallets without being reported to the state (though it's bad enough when it's being turned over to the state).
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The thing that really show this for what it is is the fact that these "drug dealers" aren't being arrested, they're just having their money taken and then being sent on their way. I just wonder what percentage of the money stolen goes straight into the cop's wallets without being reported to the state (though it's bad enough when it's being turned over to the state).
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A shitload...
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I drop in from time to time and add content.

May 28, 2003 incident to August 8/19/2006 date of decision.

From : theNewspaper.com - A journal of the politics of driving.
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Federal Appeals Court: Driving With Money is a Crime
Eighth Circuit Appeals Court ruling says police may seize cash from motorists even in the absence of any evidence that a crime has been committed.

A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that if a motorist is carrying large sums of money, it is automatically subject to confiscation. In the case entitled, "United States of America v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit took that amount of cash away from Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez, a man with a "lack of significant criminal history" neither accused nor convicted of any crime.

On May 28, 2003, a Nebraska state trooper signaled Gonzolez to pull over his rented Ford Taurus on Interstate 80. The trooper intended to issue a speeding ticket, but noticed the Gonzolez's name was not on the rental contract. The trooper then proceeded to question Gonzolez -- who did not speak English well -- and search the car. The trooper found a cooler containing $124,700 in cash, which he confiscated. A trained drug sniffing dog barked at the rental car and the cash. For the police, this was all the evidence needed to establish a drug crime that allows the force to keep the seized money.

Comment- Most every used bill in circulation in USA has dog sniffable traces of cocaine or amphetamines. Cops can and have been caught training their K9’s to “signal” on secret command.

Something a little newer from Journalgazette.net- March 22, 2009
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No charges, but police can keep the cash


Going 62 in a 50-mph zone, a Jeep barreled west on a slippery, snow-covered Airport Expressway on Valentine’s Day and blew past an Allen County sheriff’s squad car.

One traffic stop later, two men inside the Jeep were outside being patted down by officers. They acted nervous, according to a police report. At one point they looked as if they wanted to fight; at another they looked as if they wanted to flee.

In the Jeep’s back seat, police found more than $26,000 in cash wrapped in a stocking cap.

Though officers held the two men for a short time in squad cars, they were eventually released without charges, save for the driver receiving a citation for driving with a suspended license. * * *

And at least one local agency, the Allen County Prosecutor’s Office, has taken a more aggressive approach in forfeiture cases, with the amount of money in its state seizure fund growing from more than $53,000 in 2004 to more than $105,000 in 2008, according to Allen County’s Chief Deputy Prosecutor Michael McAlexander.

“We’ve gotten a little more aggressive,” said McAlexander, citing better communication with police in how confiscations work locally. “We’ve created a better process.”

Comment- Suspended and speeding sounds like your possible suspect to me. One of the regular Phuck Ups in the neighborhood. Can’t trust a cops statement as they have been given a green light in the courts to lie. No speeding charge is also a little suspicious to me, but I guess the cop was giving him a break. lol
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OK, Banned Content due to copyright infringement threats. 17 August 2009- otherwise piss on the Limeys publication.

Too bad cause it told the American Chemical Society found traces on up to 90% of bills tested in USA.

Of course with Washington D.C. being so cool and all, it was 93%.

A little on the dog sniffing money situation from Open Jurist- Argued and Submitted Jan. 31, 1994.
Decided Nov. 8, 1994.
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39 F.3d 1039 - 63 USLW 2351

UNITED STATES of America, Plaintiff-Appellant,
v.
U.S. CURRENCY, $30,060.00, Defendant.
Albert Joseph Alexander, Claimant-Appellee.


11- The government emphasizes the narcotics detection dog's positive alert to Alexander's large sum of money and the plastic bag in which that money was contained. We have previously found such an alert to be "strong evidence" when making a probable cause determination. United States v. $215,300 U.S. Currency, 882 F.2d 417, 419 (9th Cir.1989), cert. denied, 497 U.S. 1005 (1990). In recent years, however, subsequent courts, including our own, have questioned the probative value of positive dog alerts due to the contamination of America's paper money supply with narcotics residue. See $191,910 in U.S. Currency, 16 F.3d 1051, 1062 n. 21 (9th Cir.1994) (expressing concern that currency contamination may affect the probative value of a narcotics detection dog's positive alert in currency forfeiture cases); United States v. $53,082 in U.S. Currency, 985 F.2d 245, 250 n. 5 (6th Cir.1993) (same); United States v. $639,558 in U.S. Currency, 955 F.2d 712, 714 n. 2 (D.C.Cir.1992) (same); see also Jones v. Drug Enforcement Admin., 819 F.Supp. 698, 719-21 (M.D.Tenn.1993) (rejecting the probative value of a narcotics detection dog's positive alert to seized currency on the basis of evidence of widespread currency contamination); United States v. $80,760 in U.S. Currency, 781 F.Supp. 462, 475-76 (N.D.Texas 1991), aff'd, 978 F.2d 709 (5th Cir.1992) (table) (same).

12- In addition, this court has never held that the mere fact of a narcotics dog's positive alert to a large sum of money constitutes sufficient evidence to establish probable cause for forfeiture. Rather, probable cause is established only when an "aggregate" of facts--over and beyond the positive dog alert to a large sum of money--demonstrate the money's connection to drugs, with no single fact being dispositive. See $215,300 U.S. Currency, 882 F.2d at 419; United States v. $5,644,540 in U.S. Currency, 799 F.2d at 1363 (finding that no single fact was dispositive with regard to a probable cause determination). We decline to expand the holding of $215,300 U.S. Currency to encompass the instant case, where the aggregate of facts do not demonstrate the money's connection to drugs, and where Alexander has documented through uncontradicted evidence that greater than seventy-five percent of all circulated currency in Los Angeles is contaminated with the residue of cocaine or other controlled substances.

Comment- With 60 large I would think the "Defendant" would have been able to hire a good (sic) lawyer. So since the courts have rendered contaminated money is not grounds for probable cause, they write a few laws to allow your money to be arrested on “suspicion”.
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Here’s some earlier ones from Freedom Daily at fff.org
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How Police Confiscation Is Destroying America, Part 1- October 1993
by Jarret B. Wollstein, Associate Editor of The Financial Privacy Report.

From Part 1.


Throughout America, police are now seizing cars, houses and bank accounts — without trial . . . and killing innocent Americans.

The police now have the legal power to confiscate anything and everything that you own. Without trial, conviction, or even indictment, police are seizing cars, bank accounts, homes, and businesses from at least 5,000 innocent Americans every week. If you resist a police confiscation, they can even cripple or kill you with impunity.

Do you want proof? Every Wednesday, Section D of USA Today newspaper lists the latest confiscations by the Drug Enforcement Administration. There, in tiny 7-point type, you will find the latest list of weekly seizures of pocket cash, bank accounts, cars, and homes, by just this one government agency. * * *

Robbing Innocent Motorists

If you are stopped by police in Volusia County, Florida for a minor traffic violation, it may cost you a lot more than a $100 ticket. If Volusia police stop you on I-95, they ask, "How much cash are you carrying?" If your answer is more than a few hundred dollars, they routinely seize it.

Volusia police say that carrying more cash is "suspicious behavior." Under current laws, suspicion is all they need to confiscate your property.

If you are also carrying valuables — such as jewelry, or driving an up-scale car, they often confiscate that as well. In the last four years, these legalized highway robberies have brought in $8 million for Volusia County.

Similar car confiscations are taking place throughout America. In Houston, over 4,000 cars a year are confiscated. In New York, it's over 10,000 cars. Police car confiscation squads now operate in Louisiana, New Jersey, Alabama, Arizona, California, Texas, and many other states.

Janitor's Life Savings Confiscated


In 1989, police stopped 49-year old Ethel Hylton at Houston's Hobby Airport and told her she was under arrest because a drug dog had scratched at her luggage. Agents searched her bags and strip-searched her. They found no drugs. They did find $39,110 in cash, money she received from an insurance settlement and her life savings. Ms. Hylton had accumulated this money through over 20 years of hard, physical work, as a hotel housekeeper and hospital janitor.

Ethel Hylton completely documented where she got her money. She was never charged with a crime. But police kept her money anyway. Nearly four years later, she has little hope of ever getting her money back.

The Drug Enforcement Administration and the police now operate surveillance units at all major U.S. airports. Virtually everyone you deal with at an airport — from the ticket clerks to the baggage handlers — is paid 10% bounties for turning you in to the DEA if you buy a ticket with cash of if you look "suspicious."

Investigative reporters from 60 Minutes recently checked out reports of DEA airport confiscation squads in Atlanta, New York and other cities. In every case, within minutes of a well-dressed black undercover reporter buying a ticket for cash, a DEA agent came out and confiscated all of the money in his wallet.

DEA surveillance operations are expanding. DEA units have now been established at some major hotels, particularly in "drug centers" like Los Angeles, Miami, and New York. The DEA has even installed surveillance cameras at some agricultural supply houses, and requires salesmen to record the name, address and social security number of anyone who buys grow lights.

From Part 2.

Confiscating Property for Personal Use


State and federal asset-forfeiture laws allow police and government agencies to appropriate confiscated property for their own use so long as it is in "the line of duty."

A whole industry is evolving around asset confiscation. Police and government agencies love it because it is a cheap and easy way to increase their revenues. Informants and crooks love it — some of them now make up to $780,000 a year entrapping and turning in neighbors and former friends. Judges love it because they typically get 20% of the forfeited property for their courts. Sheriffs and DEA agents love it because they get first pick of confiscated assets.

More and more police chiefs these days are driving around in confiscated Jaguars, BMWs and Mercedes. Confiscated country clubs have been turned into "police training facilities." Confiscated cash and expensive stereos and TVs tend to disappear quickly from police lockers.

It not surprising that civil-asset confiscations are now doubling every year. In 1985, the government seized $27 million in property. In 1992, they seized $1.2 billion. That's an increase of 4,400% in seven years. At the current rate of growth of confiscations, all property in America will belong to the state within seventeen years.

Comment- 3 more years to go. Man I shoulda got into the law racket when I had the chance.
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