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FDA US marshals seize elderberry juice concentrate- 'unapproved drug' | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243516  United States06/07/2011 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Enchanted Wanderer  User ID: 1408268  Australia06/07/2011 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have got to be kidding... its going to get to the point that anything that is good for you is going to be banned because they do not want healthy, intelligent people wandering around.. We all need to just get off at the next stop.. Time for a new reality [link to www.thevenusproject.com] Get A Kit, Make A Plan, Be Prepared. Zombie Apocalypses Do Happen! "whoever forgets his history is condemned to repeat it" “The Sun of Light shines in the Heart as Love.” The Truth of Life descends from the world of Eternal Light {the sun} to illuminate the minds, regenerate the hearts, raise and renew the souls of all the sons of Truth destined to constitute the nucleus of the new humanity - Peter Deunov "Knowledge is the Great Endowment of the Creator that lives within you and allows you to experience & express humanity’s One Spirituality, beyond all divisions of race, culture, nation & religion. Knowledge alone has the power both to guide and protect the individual and to unite and enable humanity to chart a new way forward" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1418319 United States06/07/2011 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have got to be kidding... its going to get to the point that anything that is good for you is going to be banned because they do not want healthy, intelligent people wandering around.. Quoting: Enchanted WandererWe all need to just get off at the next stop.. That's the plan. The next stop. [link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com] |
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| anonimalle User ID: 1418331 United States06/07/2011 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FDA US marshals seize elderberry juice concentrate- 'unapproved drug' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243516Wyldewood Cellars, a Kansas-based producer and distributor of elderberry juice, is the latest raid target of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which recently sent US marshals to the company's winery in Mulvane to confiscate the "unapproved drug." According to the rogue agency, Wyldewood had violated provisions in the US Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FFDCA) that restrict health claims for food items, warranting the sudden invasion. continues at: [link to myhealthytown.com] Bastards Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 767699 United States06/07/2011 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| tinygreenac User ID: 427545 United States06/07/2011 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's all part of codex alimentarius. gotta keep the useless eaters from preventing disease and staying healthy. health food stores are scheduled for demolition.  'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.' (sapp vs tallahassee) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1385576  Slovakia06/07/2011 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1415858 United States06/07/2011 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... better stock-up on Elderberry wine! ... . ... use that when the flu is attacking ... . ... Elderberry wine is NOT a wine for enjoyment! ... . ... better guard your elderberry plants! ... they are probably next on the hit list! ... . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1418366 United States06/07/2011 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1243516 United States06/07/2011 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That makes perfect sense! Has this been brought up in a court case? You can't make health claims for things like this, that is illegal. They broke the law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7444021st amendment protects true speech no matter what the FDA goons say. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403720 United States06/07/2011 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Prisoner of Technology User ID: 792783 United States06/07/2011 10:35 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are. Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points. |
| Obama/Biden 2012! User ID: 1418319 United States06/07/2011 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can't make health claims for things like this, that is illegal. They broke the law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7444021st amendment protects true speech no matter what the FDA goons say.  Oh, dat sooo funny! |
| Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States06/07/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if it is back up by science, then is it legal? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243516You can't make health claims for things like this, that is illegal. They broke the law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744402No, it's NOT LEGAL to make claims EVEN ones backed by science. It must be FDA approved claims, meaning you must pay for the privilege of making the claim. In many cases, you can't even link to studies about it. Fucking FDA is a criminal cartel.  No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 794320  Canada06/07/2011 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States06/07/2011 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELDERBERRY IS NOT ILLEGAL. The law they broke was MAKING MEDICAL CLAIMS which then turns the thing they make the claim about, into "a drug". You can sell all the elderberry you want... so long as you post disclaimers that "this is not intended to diagnose, cure, or treat any disease" blah blah blah. A disclaimer could have saved their asses. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1418430 United States06/07/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Karu User ID: 826286 United States06/07/2011 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELDERBERRY IS NOT ILLEGAL. Quoting: Sandi_TThe law they broke was MAKING MEDICAL CLAIMS which then turns the thing they make the claim about, into "a drug". You can sell all the elderberry you want... so long as you post disclaimers that "this is not intended to diagnose, cure, or treat any disease" blah blah blah. A disclaimer could have saved their asses. It's the same as this popular anti-virus product: [link to www.sambucolusa.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1243516 United States06/07/2011 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to the article, they confiscated the elderberry. That is pretty harsh for an identically legal substance that has different packaging. ELDERBERRY IS NOT ILLEGAL. Quoting: Sandi_TThe law they broke was MAKING MEDICAL CLAIMS which then turns the thing they make the claim about, into "a drug". You can sell all the elderberry you want... so long as you post disclaimers that "this is not intended to diagnose, cure, or treat any disease" blah blah blah. A disclaimer could have saved their asses. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 794320 Canada06/07/2011 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ELDERBERRY IS NOT ILLEGAL. Quoting: Sandi_TThe law they broke was MAKING MEDICAL CLAIMS which then turns the thing they make the claim about, into "a drug". You can sell all the elderberry you want... so long as you post disclaimers that "this is not intended to diagnose, cure, or treat any disease" blah blah blah. A disclaimer could have saved their asses. It is illegal to say food is healthy. Get with the program terrorist! OBEY! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1333003 United States06/07/2011 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1243516 United States06/07/2011 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you read the article they worked with an FDA consultant to only say the right things.... Didn't they claim to cure diabetes, cancer, flu, and aids? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1333003If so how can anyone be shocked they were taken down? Making those kind of claims is just irresponsible and yes criminal. |
| tinygreenac User ID: 427545 United States06/07/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when they start going after honey and butter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1418430they have been after raw milk for quite some time also. 'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.' (sapp vs tallahassee) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1418624 United States06/07/2011 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Emerge~n~See User ID: 1086801 United States06/07/2011 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the good of Humanity, the FDA must cease to exist. They are worthless corrupt slaves to the pharmaceutical agenda and truly care nothing for our health... it's all about power and greed for those fucks ! <> * <> * <> * <8> * <> * <> * <> ~Instead of claiming the "mantle" of victimhood, seek to relieve the suffering around you and your own pain will diminish ~ <> * <> * <> * <8> * <> * <> * <> |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1338052 United States06/07/2011 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How dare anyone sells a NATURAL HEALTHY health supplement and put Big Pharma out of business. This is why Marijuana is illegal. Big Phamra cannot PATENT naturally occurring plants or minerals so they will just BAN IT. Next thing you know, Tea and herbal supplemental will be illegal. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1243516 United States06/07/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It used to boggle my mind that such things could happen: ban plants that grow in your own backyard (no I am not refering to the Marijuana!). But things lik raw almonds, and Amish farmers selling raw milk, on and on. Is it going to get worse or are people going to stand up and say no? Which side do you think is going to win? How dare anyone sells a NATURAL HEALTHY health supplement and put Big Pharma out of business. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1338052This is why Marijuana is illegal. Big Phamra cannot PATENT naturally occurring plants or minerals so they will just BAN IT. Next thing you know, Tea and herbal supplemental will be illegal. |
