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Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?

 
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Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Think about it.

In a real SHTF scenario what is gold worth when there is no monetary system and everyone is on survival mode full blast? I would think most places that get looted people would be taking as much coffee as they can (use/shelf-life/trade value, etc.)

So do you think it is a good idea to start stocking/freezing bulk cans of coffee?

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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
I think coffee will have a worth as a luxury type item, yes.

Food and clean water of course will be the first need.

Things like coffee,tobacco,booze, will definitely have a high value.

Gold wont do shit until there is some kind of community stability.

People that say things like , "Well I'll just buy your farm with my gold har har" will likely end up full of another metal, lead.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Alcohol for sure.... Coffee is a good one... Porn is another... All way under-rated...

Then again who in there right mind would let this system crash when you have all these kids as slaves through college loans?

I certainly wouldnt crash this system or let it fail, period... Id make you all pay it back, with interest.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Agreed.

I have stocked up on instant coffee myself.

Ready to go with the least effort. Great for trading as well.

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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
I think coffee will have a worth as a luxury type item, yes.

Food and clean water of course will be the first need.

Things like coffee,tobacco,booze, will definitely have a high value.

Gold wont do shit until there is some kind of community stability.

People that say things like , "Well I'll just buy your farm with my gold har har" will likely end up full of another metal, lead.
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cheers

Yes, smokes and booze as well! In a way you are reverting back to what has most value in prison/in the commisary. It would be nice to have an extra supply of these items in case food/water is hard to come by and you could hopefully trade for it peacefully.

"People that say things like , "Well I'll just buy your farm with my gold har har" will likely end up full of another metal, lead."

Indeed, lol. That will not work out too well in their favor...
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Coffee is on the Nice to Have list.

Not a necessity. Sure you can trade with it but people who you trade with will want the necessities first.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
all the basic things we take for granted today will become luxury items post SHTF. take toilet paper for instance, imagine life with NO TP to wipe your ass, and baths/showers few and far between.


collect big fat phone books for free now, they make good TP later!
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Alcohol for sure.... Coffee is a good one... Porn is another... All way under-rated...

Then again who in there right mind would let this system crash when you have all these kids as slaves through college loans?

I certainly wouldnt crash this system or let it fail, period... Id make you all pay it back, with interest.
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I never thought about Pornography magazines because they just seemed irrelevant with the internet/cheap DVDs etc. I have even seen often people throwing these out all the time during trash days. May have to collect huge boxes of porn to trade later, ha. Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
alcohol will be worth about what it is now
with unless most people are as retarded as you folk seem to be
(you can make the stuff at home for a few dollars a gallon)
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all the basic things we take for granted today will become luxury items post SHTF. take toilet paper for instance, imagine life with NO TP to wipe your ass, and baths/showers few and far between.


collect big fat phone books for free now, they make good TP later!
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I love the GLP effect, so many great ideas. Love the one about the phone book. When I used to hike often in the woods/mountains and ran out I would use soft leaves, which were not too bad. I would have absolutely preferred phone book paper. Nice one!

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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Lack of coffee = gaah

But most people will survive their withdrawl.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
alcohol will be worth about what it is now
with unless most people are as retarded as you folk seem to be
(you can make the stuff at home for a few dollars a gallon)
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In a SHTF scenario you wont worry about the Federal Ban on home Ethanol Production.

So keep a still in storage. Use some sourdough starter to get a yeast culture going and mash up some cattails from the swamp.

Add some sugar and soon you will have fuel to Cook with, run some engines, generate power, disinfect cuts, and get drunk !
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Lack of coffee = gaah

But most people will survive their withdrawl.
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I know right? I personally would not like that game.

Is it proven that caffeine is more addicting than alcohol/nicotine or? I am not sure of the research on that...
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Caffeine is the sneaky addiction...most people don't realize they're addicted...until they're cut off from it.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
alcohol will be worth about what it is now
with unless most people are as retarded as you folk seem to be
(you can make the stuff at home for a few dollars a gallon)
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In a SHTF scenario you wont worry about the Federal Ban on home Ethanol Production.

So keep a still in storage. Use some sourdough starter to get a yeast culture going and mash up some cattails from the swamp.

Add some sugar and soon you will have fuel to Cook with, run some engines, generate power, disinfect cuts, and get drunk !
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This is what I was thinking, I know quite a few already who make and sell their own moonshine all the time here. I am more a plant person, but yea it may be prudent to print out directions for a home still production even for trade basis alone. Nice!
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
alcohol will be worth about what it is now
with unless most people are as retarded as you folk seem to be
(you can make the stuff at home for a few dollars a gallon)
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No shit, I never said I would be buying it.chuckle
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
uh.. no..

it's fucking COFFEE!!

have a cup and

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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
the real gold post SHTF will be the gold horders' trophy wives and hot daughters.

PMs will be worthless but that supple white flesh will be priceless. and they will have to trade it for all the shit they didnt buy cuz they were busy buying PMs.
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uh.. no..

it's fucking COFFEE!!

have a cup and

cupofjoe
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Liquor, coffee and CIGARETTES.

Fuck the gold and silver.
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Liquor, coffee and CIGARETTES.

Fuck the gold and silver.
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Dry Food stuffs, Ammunition and Medical supplies if you wanna live.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
alcohol will be worth about what it is now
with unless most people are as retarded as you folk seem to be
(you can make the stuff at home for a few dollars a gallon)
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In a SHTF scenario you wont worry about the Federal Ban on home Ethanol Production.

So keep a still in storage. Use some sourdough starter to get a yeast culture going and mash up some cattails from the swamp.

Add some sugar and soon you will have fuel to Cook with, run some engines, generate power, disinfect cuts, and get drunk !
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Yeah, but you can't make a good bourbon so some bottles of Jim Beam would be an excellent investment.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
the real gold post SHTF will be the gold horders' trophy wives and hot daughters.

PMs will be worthless but that supple white flesh will be priceless. and they will have to trade it for all the shit they didnt buy cuz they were busy buying PMs.
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It is overwhelming for me to process all of that, I know it would be happening often. I can see many sick and desperate people selling out their daughters and even their wives for just a couple weeks rations. It kinda scares the fuck out of me. I am sure there will be some honorable people left in the world, but with societal breakdown it will not be many.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Liquor, coffee and CIGARETTES.

Fuck the gold and silver.
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Dry Food stuffs, Ammunition and Medical supplies if you wanna live.
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I believe the topic is barter items.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Liquor, coffee and CIGARETTES.

Fuck the gold and silver.
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Dry Food stuffs, Ammunition and Medical supplies if you wanna live.
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I believe the topic is barter items.
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People will be short on these Necessities. Thus they will be the Primary Barter Items.
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
the problem with the logic of coffee = gold because of caffeine addiction runs into a problem in that tea is fairly easy to grow far more plentiful and iirc can actually contain more caffeine (or at least more than enough to get a fix)

so i cant see coffee going up
the people saying porn have a solid point
if youre looking for investments i would go with small things that cant be made personally and help make life easier
like electronics machinery and tools
youre going to want to bury the electronics (anything that can transmit or receive flashlights crank generators etc.)
machinery like lathes presses looms etc.
and any tools you can get your hands on
these things
will be worth more than you can imagine (assuming a global disaster strikes were production stops entirely and the population doesnt decrese straight away.... if the population falls straight away there will be an abundance of all things and investments will be.... worthless)
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Re: Is COFFEE the real GOLD in a SHTF scenario? Can you eat/drink Gold Bullion??? What other items are good to barter with?
Liquor, coffee and CIGARETTES.

Fuck the gold and silver.
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Dry Food stuffs, Ammunition and Medical supplies if you wanna live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1204287


I believe the topic is barter items.
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People will be short on these Necessities. Thus they will be the Primary Barter Items.
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I can see where you are coming from, in a way though they seem like something I would not trade no matter what. Especially the med supplies and ammo. Food though yes, you really don't need as much food as you think. Water though yes.

I have been planting wild edible plants and wild potatoes all up and down a major river bed by me. Most of these people would have no idea it is even food and it's off the beaten path. I would suggest others do the same in case you need an emergency source of food. (PS I have no land of my own to do this that is why)

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coffee,medicine(pain killers etc),tobacco,footwear,clothing,battery's will probably be big SHTF items
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Toilet paper/feminine napkins. Try wiping your butt with junk mail for a month, then switch to a roll of John Wayne TP -it'll feel like angels caressing your sphincter. noshit
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Chocolate!

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Don't forget Chapstick. It's cheap and last forever (sort of). That's something that will really be missed.
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