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Just in ! BIG damaginf aftershock in Christchurch New Zealand

 
Una

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06/19/2011 07:02 AM
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It is the shallowness of the quakes that is bothering me... they are mostly under 10km deep.. usually between 5-8
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That really is wafer thin not much back bone between the action, and the city !
and they do appear to becoming closer to the surface
 Quoting: Soon


yes, that is what I have been observing.. and remembering that is in km not miles
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Re: Just in ! BIG damaginf aftershock in Christchurch New Zealand
wish i could leave
i feel doomed
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Are you in Chch ac?
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yes, New Brighton
we had no power or water for 3 weeks after the Feb quake
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06/19/2011 07:06 AM
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wish i could leave
i feel doomed
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Are you in Chch ac?
 Quoting: Una


yes, New Brighton
we had no power or water for 3 weeks after the Feb quake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


I am so sorry ac.. My partner was living in aranui after that quake and I know how hard hit you all were. It was heartbreaking to see when I was there a few weeks after the quake. Now he is living in someone's washhouse/sleepout in Bexley.

I cannot begin to imagine the stress you are living under, and the not knowing. That I suppose is the worst part eh, the not knowing.
hf
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06/19/2011 07:07 AM
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Re: Just in ! BIG damaginf aftershock in Christchurch New Zealand
wish i could leave
i feel doomed
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Are you in Chch ac?
 Quoting: Una


yes, New Brighton
we had no power or water for 3 weeks after the Feb quake
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New Brighton I once lived there Rockinghorse rd you may know of it AC ?

What are the reasons holding you there ?
Una

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"Monday's movement occurred on another hitherto unknown fault, just south of the one at the northern edge of the Port Hills that ruptured on February 22. GNS calculates that the February quake has raised the hills by 25cm and lowered the eastern suburbs where liquefaction is worst.

It is a disgrace that people are still having to live in those suburbs now that winter has arrived. If the areas that will have to be abandoned are "blindingly obvious" to Gerry Brownlee why hasn't it happened?

Every time someone from the Government tries to explain this, they leave the distinct impression that there is something they know that they cannot say out loud.(I think this statement is very telling and the author of the article makes some very valid points)

Brownlee's inconclusive verbiage usually goes in the direction of insurance implications."

[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

my remarks in blue

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wish i could leave
i feel doomed
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Are you in Chch ac?
 Quoting: Una


yes, New Brighton
we had no power or water for 3 weeks after the Feb quake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


New Brighton I once lived there Rockinghorse rd you may know of it AC ?

What are the reasons holding you there ?
 Quoting: Soon


yeah, thats south of New Brighton - Southshore

I'm terrified of staying, only reason I'm staying is because I've got a really good job - if i go to Akl or Tauranga or Nelson will I be able to get a decent job?

Lots of people are going to be VERY upset here soon - 'urban retreat' - huge areas, including Southshore, the land east of the estuary has dropped 2m
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06/19/2011 07:16 AM
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AREAS TO BE ABANDONED

The government is tipped to announce this week which areas of land in Christchurch can be remediated and which areas will need to be abandoned.

Earthquake Minister Gerry Brownlee has refused to publicly commit to a timetable for releasing that information, after missing an earlier deadline of late May, but it is understood a briefing for non-government parties has been set for Tuesday when Prime Minister John Key is due to return from a visit to Australia.

It is understood the government will seek to remove even lightly damaged houses in some areas where wastewater and other services cannot be maintained, land cannot be built on and most houses must be removed.
[link to www.stuff.co.nz]
Una

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06/19/2011 07:19 AM
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yeah, thats south of New Brighton - Southshore

I'm terrified of staying, only reason I'm staying is because I've got a really good job - if i go to Akl or Tauranga or Nelson will I be able to get a decent job?

Lots of people are going to be VERY upset here soon - 'urban retreat' - huge areas, including Southshore, the land east of the estuary has dropped 2m
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


omg that is a huge drop.

Ac, I understand your reluctance to leave, especially considering the job situation in NZ, however: if you can leave please do consider it. I am truely concerned for everyone living in chch.hf
Una

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06/19/2011 07:22 AM
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AREAS TO BE ABANDONED

The government is tipped to announce this week which areas of land in Christchurch can be remediated and which areas will need to be abandoned.

Earthquake Minister Gerry Brownlee has refused to publicly commit to a timetable for releasing that information, after missing an earlier deadline of late May, but it is understood a briefing for non-government parties has been set for Tuesday when Prime Minister John Key is due to return from a visit to Australia.

It is understood the government will seek to remove even lightly damaged houses in some areas where wastewater and other services cannot be maintained, land cannot be built on and most houses must be removed.
[link to www.stuff.co.nz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


what is particularly scary for me in that comment is the area I have highlighted. What passes for lightly damaged? superficial cracking in plaster that does not affect the structural integrity? A fence that toppled over? What? What constitutes light damage and who decides this?

edited to add:
It seems to me that this is just an excuse to forcibly remove people from otherwise sound homes, so they can clear entire suburbs.

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06/19/2011 07:23 AM
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Let our lord have mercy. BTW I will pray too.
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06/19/2011 07:33 AM
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Re: Just in ! BIG damaginf aftershock in Christchurch New Zealand
wish i could leave
i feel doomed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


Are you in Chch ac?
 Quoting: Una


yes, New Brighton
we had no power or water for 3 weeks after the Feb quake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


I am so sorry ac.. My partner was living in aranui after that quake and I know how hard hit you all were. It was heartbreaking to see when I was there a few weeks after the quake. Now he is living in someone's washhouse/sleepout in Bexley.

I cannot begin to imagine the stress you are living under, and the not knowing. That I suppose is the worst part eh, the not knowing.
hf
 Quoting: Una


If the Waitangi day prophecy/prediction come to pass before the end of June, then it will make the previous quakes and aftershocks look like nothing. Stay safe.
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06/19/2011 07:41 AM
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Are you in Chch ac?
 Quoting: Una


yes, New Brighton
we had no power or water for 3 weeks after the Feb quake
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426127


I am so sorry ac.. My partner was living in aranui after that quake and I know how hard hit you all were. It was heartbreaking to see when I was there a few weeks after the quake. Now he is living in someone's washhouse/sleepout in Bexley.

I cannot begin to imagine the stress you are living under, and the not knowing. That I suppose is the worst part eh, the not knowing.
hf
 Quoting: Una


If the Waitangi day prophecy/prediction come to pass before the end of June, then it will make the previous quakes and aftershocks look like nothing. Stay safe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1151390


Times running out on that one, but yeah it could jump out on the 30th and bite a few bums
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06/19/2011 07:44 AM
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wellington nz.

a maori elder stunned a nz national day prayer service by saying he had a vision of a great eq and tsunami devastating the capital city of wellington .i have had seen houses on the hills of wellington some of them disappear .kere tia toe told dignitaries inc prime minister john key at a service at waitangi in the bay of islands.i have seen the roof of the beehive lying in the debris of the streets of wellington .tia toe claimed he had his vision 38 years ago .he said he did not know what year the catastrophe would accure but believed the month of june.
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wellington nz.

a maori elder stunned a nz national day prayer service by saying he had a vision of a great eq and tsunami devastating the capital city of wellington .i have had seen houses on the hills of wellington some of them disappear .kere tia toe told dignitaries inc prime minister john key at a service at waitangi in the bay of islands.i have seen the roof of the beehive lying in the debris of the streets of wellington .tia toe claimed he had his vision 38 years ago .he said he did not know what year the catastrophe would accure but believed the month of june.
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06/19/2011 07:46 AM
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could he have ment cc??

and to say june??
Una

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If the Waitangi day prophecy/prediction come to pass before the end of June, then it will make the previous quakes and aftershocks look like nothing. Stay safe.
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I found the video of his speech and uploaded it to youtube...
Una

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cc? oh duh.. christchurch...

No, he specifically states seeing the beehive on the ground.

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wellington nz.

a maori elder stunned a nz national day prayer service by saying he had a vision of a great eq and tsunami devastating the capital city of wellington .i have had seen houses on the hills of wellington some of them disappear .kere tia toe told dignitaries inc prime minister john key at a service at waitangi in the bay of islands.i have seen the roof of the beehive lying in the debris of the streets of wellington .tia toe claimed he had his vision 38 years ago .he said he did not know what year the catastrophe would accure but believed the month of june.
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 Quoting: Una


now that gave me the shivers .
Una

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06/19/2011 07:53 AM
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yeah you could hear the fear in his voice, and it took some balls for him to speak up about it like that in that environment as well.
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yeah you could hear the fear in his voice, and it took some balls for him to speak up about it like that in that environment as well.
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38 years he has had this vision .3 and 8 ,11 and he told us about his vision in the year 2011.
Una

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yeah that is a long time to have to hold that inside of him.

I also was told in around 85 that "catastrophic changes were about to hurl themselves upon humanity" That there would be a major quake that would cause wellington to disassociate from the island itself. I believe it will happen, it is only a matter of when, not if.
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if the insurance companies would hurry and pay the people out then the people could move .some people have been waiting since sep .when the call the insurance com up they say the will call back and they never do.
Una

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if the insurance companies would hurry and pay the people out then the people could move .some people have been waiting since sep .when the call the insurance com up they say the will call back and they never do.
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yes, you are right about that. I get the feeling they are stalling.
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06/19/2011 08:09 AM
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so Blenheim is stuffed, Picton too and possibly if there is spill over the spit Mot as well... wow
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NZs second largest city has a chance to completely relocate to a safer ground, we dont need municipal utility`s like electricity, or sewerage, here is a great chance to build a green city free of these outdated, costly items that are no longer necessary as each home could generate its own power requirements, and with composting toilets no need for drainpipes that are prone to breaking after quakes.
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NZs second largest city has a chance to completely relocate to a safer ground, we dont need municipal utility`s like electricity, or sewerage, here is a great chance to build a green city free of these outdated, costly items that are no longer necessary as each home could generate its own power requirements, and with composting toilets no need for drainpipes that are prone to breaking after quakes.
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yeah I like that idea.
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don't get me wrong I am all for respecting nature and keeping the environment clean and green. But

"composting toilets"????


Nah, "New Christchurch" on "New^2 Zealand" will be a modern city once the change is complete.
Una

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06/19/2011 08:36 AM
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Composting toilets are a brilliant idea. You can get ones that actually burn the sewerage to a sterile dust that can be used as fertiliser on gardens.
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06/19/2011 09:55 AM
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A thought, if you let the Quake Map simulator run out from September 4th to the present time (sticky dots option selected), the result appears like a river feeding from the Waimak. in the north and the Rakaia in the south, running through Christchurch and opening to the sea at the estuary.

[link to www.christchurchquakemap.co.nz]



Plus groundwater references, interesting to know of any role of aquifers and underground water flows in the present situation.

[link to www.cpwl.co.nz]

[link to keithwoodford.wordpress.com]

[link to info.ngwa.org]
Una

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A thought, if you let the Quake Map simulator run out from September 4th to the present time (sticky dots option selected), the result appears like a river feeding from the Waimak. in the north and the Rakaia in the south, running through Christchurch and opening to the sea at the estuary.

[link to www.christchurchquakemap.co.nz]



Plus groundwater references, interesting to know of any role of aquifers and underground water flows in the present situation.

[link to www.cpwl.co.nz]

[link to keithwoodford.wordpress.com]

[link to info.ngwa.org]
 Quoting: dave444 1429228


that is a very interesting observation Dave. thanks for that.

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