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So Did Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley Really Open a Portal Where Area 51 Now Is???

 
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Does anyone here know anything about this story?

I've heard that Jack Parsons, the guy who a crater in the Moon is named after, did a magickal ceromony in the Nevada desert either with Aleister Crowley or maybe not... I don't have anymore information.

Wtf is the truth?
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Most probably not
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They did it with pizazz.
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Sure they did. They also had to have homosexual sex to do it. It was part of the power ritual. But occultists have been doing this since they got to Philadelphia. The question is what came over, how long was it able to stay and what exactly did it do/say. Who knows what the truth is.

Crowley then went on to create witchcraft light for the lazy (AKA Wicca) because most people are way to lazy to participate in witchcraft proper.
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Sure they did. They also had to have homosexual sex to do it. It was part of the power ritual. But occultists have been doing this since they got to Philadelphia. The question is what came over, how long was it able to stay and what exactly did it do/say. Who knows what the truth is.

Crowley then went on to create witchcraft light for the lazy (AKA Wicca) because most people are way to lazy to participate in witchcraft proper.
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Ok so what about the portal? What was/is it?

Is that why the Area 51 installation was built there, on top of the portal?

Sounds right to me because we are not dealing with physical space aliens from some planet, we're dealing with extradimensional entities from another dimension.
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Sure they did. They also had to have homosexual sex to do it. It was part of the power ritual. But occultists have been doing this since they got to Philadelphia. The question is what came over, how long was it able to stay and what exactly did it do/say. Who knows what the truth is.

Crowley then went on to create witchcraft light for the lazy (AKA Wicca) because most people are way to lazy to participate in witchcraft proper.
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Ok so what about the portal? What was/is it?

Is that why the Area 51 installation was built there, on top of the portal?

Sounds right to me because we are not dealing with physical space aliens from some planet, we're dealing with extradimensional entities from another dimension.
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Parsons did it, I think it was called (my google thumb is sore) the 'Babylon Working' or some such thing. But it wasn't homosexual, I think it was done with his female lover who left him for L.Ron Hubbard.
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Sure they did. They also had to have homosexual sex to do it. It was part of the power ritual. But occultists have been doing this since they got to Philadelphia. The question is what came over, how long was it able to stay and what exactly did it do/say. Who knows what the truth is.

Crowley then went on to create witchcraft light for the lazy (AKA Wicca) because most people are way to lazy to participate in witchcraft proper.
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Ok so what about the portal? What was/is it?

Is that why the Area 51 installation was built there, on top of the portal?

Sounds right to me because we are not dealing with physical space aliens from some planet, we're dealing with extradimensional entities from another dimension.
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Parsons did it, I think it was called (my google thumb is sore) the 'Babylon Working' or some such thing. But it wasn't homosexual, I think it was done with his female lover who left him for L.Ron Hubbard.
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In my studies they (Parsons and Crowley) used an old sex magic ritual that one of them had located and evidently it worked.
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Sure they did. They also had to have homosexual sex to do it. It was part of the power ritual. But occultists have been doing this since they got to Philadelphia. The question is what came over, how long was it able to stay and what exactly did it do/say. Who knows what the truth is.

Crowley then went on to create witchcraft light for the lazy (AKA Wicca) because most people are way to lazy to participate in witchcraft proper.
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Ok so what about the portal? What was/is it?

Is that why the Area 51 installation was built there, on top of the portal?

Sounds right to me because we are not dealing with physical space aliens from some planet, we're dealing with extradimensional entities from another dimension.
 Quoting: BigBalla


Parsons did it, I think it was called (my google thumb is sore) the 'Babylon Working' or some such thing. But it wasn't homosexual, I think it was done with his female lover who left him for L.Ron Hubbard.
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In my studies they (Parsons and Crowley) used an old sex magic ritual that one of them had located and evidently it worked.
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Not one, or 'with' each other though. Crowley was too old and besotted at that point to travel. Plus he was on prescribed heroin. I'm pretty sure the 'act' was done with Parsons mistress 'the whore of Babylon. She was in a film...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Hubbard kept notes, Parsons and Marjorie fucked and the 'new age' was 'ushered in'. Then she ran off with Hubbard and Parsons blew up in a suspicious explosion...
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"In my studies they (Parsons and Crowley) used an old sex magic ritual that one of them had located and evidently it worked."

what evidence, please expand if you will, thanks
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Aleister Crowley was a sick occultist who unfortunately spawned a legion of miscreants..the only portal he opened was when he bent over and took it up the ass.
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Aleister Crowley was a sick occultist who unfortunately spawned a legion of miscreants..the only portal he opened was when he bent over and took it up the ass.
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Actually his penchant was for sticking his in others.
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Hmmmmm wtf... so does anyone have some kind of source for this information? What was the point of the portal?
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Hmmmmm wtf... so does anyone have some kind of source for this information? What was the point of the portal?
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I'll dig up some, tomorrow1
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They wanted to manifest the whore in physical form, and also to jumpstart the Babalon-whore consciousness within humanity.

Supposedly, according to them, they accomplished both. This is and will always be entirely anecdotal.
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Geez Jack Parsons is a dead ringer for Howard Hughes!
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Conjecture and B.S. You will never know the true mediums of inter-dimensional transference . Those folks work behind closed doors.
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Re: So Did Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley Really Open a Portal Where Area 51 Now Is???
So what exactly are we talking about when we say Babylon?

I thought Babylon was an ancient civilization, but I always hear the word being used in different ways, like to describe the global conspiracy as "Mystery Babylon." This reggae band I listen to is always referring to Babylon and how Babylon is their foe.
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Conjecture and B.S. You will never know the true mediums of inter-dimensional transference . Those folks work behind closed doors.
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Never say never...
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Re: So Did Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley Really Open a Portal Where Area 51 Now Is???
Does anyone here know anything about this story?

I've heard that Jack Parsons, the guy who a crater in the Moon is named after, did a magickal ceromony in the Nevada desert either with Aleister Crowley or maybe not... I don't have anymore information.

Wtf is the truth?
 Quoting: BigBalla


The religion also emphasizes the ritual practice of Magick.

Magick is divine code for illicit sexual activity.



"and the magical....The sleeper must awaken"

Awakening from magick means abandoning sexual transgression.

Portals are a reference to the space-time portal our spirits pass through after death. Given that Crowley was according to Wiki a passive participant in anal sex it's very likely that he died due to sin.

Hence the reference to aliens and area 51.

Demons are aliens. 6 is numeric symbolism for alien behavior or sin.

If you don't awaken from spiritual sleep according to your allotted time to stay in transgression it can get you killed, hence you pass through the stargate or portal.

Due to Crowley's passive participation in anal sex I'd say it's a safe bet that he probably did open a portal due to transgression.
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So what exactly are we talking about when we say Babylon?

I thought Babylon was an ancient civilization, but I always hear the word being used in different ways, like to describe the global conspiracy as "Mystery Babylon." This reggae band I listen to is always referring to Babylon and how Babylon is their foe.
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Babalon is a divine feminine archetype in the Thelema religion. It's basically the liberated female sex impulse. Remember Lilly (Lileth) from the (complete) Old Testament? Babalon. An aspect of Shakti.

This also ties into the whole Aeon of Horus stuff peddled around in Thelemic circles. In this sense Babalon is also an actual woman holding with an important role in ushering in the "new aeon."

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Re: So Did Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley Really Open a Portal Where Area 51 Now Is???
Does anyone here know anything about this story?

I've heard that Jack Parsons, the guy who a crater in the Moon is named after, did a magickal ceromony in the Nevada desert either with Aleister Crowley or maybe not... I don't have anymore information.

Wtf is the truth?
 Quoting: BigBalla


The religion also emphasizes the ritual practice of Magick.

Magick is divine code for illicit sexual activity.



"and the magical....The sleeper must awaken"

Awakening from magick means abandoning sexual transgression.

Portals are a reference to the space-time portal our spirits pass through after death. Given that Crowley was according to Wiki a passive participant in anal sex it's very likely that he died due to sin.

Hence the reference to aliens and area 51.

Demons are aliens. 6 is numeric symbolism for alien behavior or sin.

If you don't awaken from spiritual sleep according to your allotted time to stay in transgression it can get you killed, hence you pass through the stargate or portal.

Due to Crowley's passive participation in anal sex I'd say it's a safe bet that he probably did open a portal due to transgression.
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Wtf?
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So what exactly is an archetype?

An actual entity who exists in another dimension or something?

Or is it just a fictional thing made up by humans?
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So what exactly are we talking about when we say Babylon?


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Babylon is the empire. A reference to the hidden mechanisms the beast uses to try to establish world domination like he almost accomplished with Hitler.

Well, maybe not almost, but he definitely stirred a shitstorm, took a lot of lives, and drew many nations to battle.

Not bad for a spiritual entity with no power over the physical realm except through means of using people as portals to act upon the physical world.
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So what exactly is an archetype?

An actual entity who exists in another dimension or something?

Or is it just a fictional thing made up by humans?
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We could be talking in a psychological sense or a cosmological sense here. Take your pick.

Psychological archetypes are something like symbols that have been in the human unconscious since the time of our origins. Cosmological archetypes we might imagine to be transcendental "forces" or "elements" of the very nature of Nature itself.

Both are simply ideas (fictional things) made up by humans trying to conceptualize a reality that transcends the conceptual mode of the mind.
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So what exactly are we talking about when we say Babylon?


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Babylon is the empire. A reference to the hidden mechanisms the beast uses to try to establish world domination like he almost accomplished with Hitler.

Well, maybe not almost, but he definitely stirred a shitstorm, took a lot of lives, and drew many nations to battle.

Not bad for a spiritual entity with no power over the physical realm except through means of using people as portals to act upon the physical world.
 Quoting: Tyranny of Evil Men


So when you say beast you mean the devil aka Satan?

Babylon is the conspiracy behind the New World Order, and Satan the beast is behind it all?
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So what exactly is an archetype?

An actual entity who exists in another dimension or something?

Or is it just a fictional thing made up by humans?
 Quoting: BigBalla


We could be talking in a psychological sense or a cosmological sense here. Take your pick.

Psychological archetypes are something like symbols that have been in the human unconscious since the time of our origins. Cosmological archetypes we might imagine to be transcendental "forces" or "elements" of the very nature of Nature itself.

Both are simply ideas (fictional things) made up by humans trying to conceptualize a reality that transcends the conceptual mode of the mind.
 Quoting: Advaita Vedantist


So it's all bullshit then?

Everyone doing all this "magick" and trying to summon "Demons of the Goetia" and all that crap are just wasting their time?

Do we have souls? That is the million dollar question.
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So what exactly is an archetype?

An actual entity who exists in another dimension or something?

Or is it just a fictional thing made up by humans?
 Quoting: BigBalla


We could be talking in a psychological sense or a cosmological sense here. Take your pick.

Psychological archetypes are something like symbols that have been in the human unconscious since the time of our origins. Cosmological archetypes we might imagine to be transcendental "forces" or "elements" of the very nature of Nature itself.

Both are simply ideas (fictional things) made up by humans trying to conceptualize a reality that transcends the conceptual mode of the mind.
 Quoting: Advaita Vedantist


So it's all bullshit then?

Everyone doing all this "magick" and trying to summon "Demons of the Goetia" and all that crap are just wasting their time?

Do we have souls? That is the million dollar question.
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Since the idea of bullshit is also a fictional construct of the mind, no, it's not all bullshit.
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So what exactly is an archetype?

An actual entity who exists in another dimension or something?

Or is it just a fictional thing made up by humans?
 Quoting: BigBalla


We could be talking in a psychological sense or a cosmological sense here. Take your pick.

Psychological archetypes are something like symbols that have been in the human unconscious since the time of our origins. Cosmological archetypes we might imagine to be transcendental "forces" or "elements" of the very nature of Nature itself.

Both are simply ideas (fictional things) made up by humans trying to conceptualize a reality that transcends the conceptual mode of the mind.
 Quoting: Advaita Vedantist


So it's all bullshit then?

Everyone doing all this "magick" and trying to summon "Demons of the Goetia" and all that crap are just wasting their time?

Do we have souls? That is the million dollar question.
 Quoting: BigBalla


Since the idea of bullshit is also a fictional construct of the mind, no, it's not all bullshit.
 Quoting: Advaita Vedantist


Ok, are you trying to say that if I imagine a Unicorn inside of my head right now that literally makes it "real" because the thought of it is real?

I understand that concept, but c'mon now, I just want to know if spirits and demons and other dimensions actually exist or if they're just a bunch of things made up in the minds of humans.
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These occult bastards are so tricky, can never get any real answers out of them lol... They love to feel mysterious and important...
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For those that are calling Crowley a miscreant. I cant argue. But he was genius none the less. If you remove his fucked up "religion with a twist" ideologies that colored all his arcane scientific knowledge/insight. You see brilliance. Several of his humanity concepts were not tied down by his personal ideal/moral/religious coloring either. Which were absolute truth. Crowley was all about Will. And we are so far removed from the discipline we have no idea the difference between it and desire.

I dont idolize the guy or anything rarely even think about him ever, unless the philosophical mood is right. My signature boasts one of his greatest quotes that apply to this setting here at GLP. He just nailed some core realities for me. Being some one who dissected/analyzed him from an unbiased perspective and tore away the warped personality behind the brain. i kind of take him for the Einstein of the religiously oppressed.

If you read the book "Diary of a drug fiend" it will explain to you what happiness is and how to achieve it. But you wont know what to do with the information.

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For those that are calling Crowley a miscreant. I cant argue. But he was genius none the less. If you remove his fucked up "religion with a twist" ideologies that colored all his arcane scientific knowledge/insight. You see brilliance. Several of his humanity concepts were not tied down by his personal ideal/moral/religious coloring either. Which were absolute truth. Crowley was all about Will. And we are so far removed from the discipline we have no idea the difference between it and desire.

I dont idolize the guy or anything rarely even think about him ever, unless the philosophical mood is right. My signature boasts one of his greatest quotes that apply to this setting here at GLP. He just nailed some core realities for me. Being some one who dissected/analyzed him from an unbiased perspective and tore away the warped personality behind the brain. i kind of take him for the Einstein of the religiously oppressed.

If you read the book "Diary of a drug fiend" it will explain to you what happiness is and how to achieve it. But you wont know what to do with the information.
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Didn't Crowley advocate sacrificing young boys, and most likely did it himself??

Fuck Aleister Crowley, and anyone who supports his pseudo-magic bullshit.

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