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**WARNING** COMING FLOOD...MISSOURI RIVER BASIN...PLEASE HELP!!

 
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The only thing I can say is to keep bumping this 80% of the snow has not melted yet and is still to come.

Flood Warning issued for St.Louis, MO...Jefferson City, MO above flood stage already.

I live near the boothill in Doniphan, MO I am very concerned for the fact that the Missouri River flows into the Mississippi
 Quoting: Lost N Dying World


He is right.. its still melting... LOTS OF IT>>. 42 feet in mountains of colorado
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I'm not sure how much more the dams can take only so much pressure can they handle
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Sorry about three mispelled words posting frim my samsung vibrant
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This is a FUBAR situation. The South is on fire and in drought, while the North is under water. All of this Water is going to all go to the Gulf. And fucking up many States on the way. Not much food is going to be grown this year. Hardly any.

And then on top of that, if one could plant, nothing is growing due to the changes in everything. And how is one to grow in their house, when the grid is unstable, and might crash.

People do not realize that the causes taking place right now are going to equate to very deadly effects later on this summer. And then pile all the other shit on top of that, and we have a full fledged FUBAR.
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ALL repeat ALL hydro blocking man made structures will fail.
It will be catasrophic but know risks were ignored.
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Will someone tell that satanic mason to get off this thread?
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Just curious to what will happen when the rolling blackouts start will they effect the dams
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By early next week, the Omaha metro area should get its first look at the full effects of the peak water releases from Gavins Point Dam.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on Tuesday morning will begin releasing 150,000 cubic feet of water per second from the dam that controls water levels along the Missouri River in Nebraska, Iowa and points south.

At 150,000 cfs, a football field would fill four feet deep in one second.

Normally, water flowing out of Gavins Point takes about two days to reach Omaha.
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Someone please explain this

[link to www.nwd-mr.usace.army.mil]
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Why are they waiting? Wouldn't it be better to begin asap?
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Why are they waiting? Wouldn't it be better to begin asap?
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Thats what I thought why drag it out for so long
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Read this freaking article about the massiveness of the unmelted snow packs in Montana.
Also, both Alberta and Montana are expected to get a huge amount for precipitation for a solid week.

[link to m.bismarcktribune.com]
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Here is the scoop.... for the next 7 days Montana and Alberta have heavy heavy precipitation forecasts. Major precipitation.
Now, after this system passes... if we get a heat wave, which is very likely, it will cause a HUGE melt off of the snow packs. There will be MEGA WATER headed down towards the Fort Peck Dam. MEGA.
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Here is the scoop.... for the next 7 days Montana and Alberta have heavy heavy precipitation forecasts. Major precipitation.
Now, after this system passes... if we get a heat wave, which is very likely, it will cause a HUGE melt off of the snow packs. There will be MEGA WATER headed down towards the Fort Peck Dam. MEGA.
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When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
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DONT KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER SHE WILL HOLD
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As of today's data ( [link to www.nwd-mr.usace.army.mil] ) Fort Peck is now 2.11 feet above it's normal flood control elevation level (of 2250) and went up an additional .18 feet in the last 24 hours (about the same as the day before).

Releases from Fort Peck are now up to 65,400 cf/s which greatly exceeds the fastest release in the past per the reports I read (down around 30,000 cf/s). Inflows over the last 24 hours have been 86,000 cf/s, which is about the same as the day before (which is why the reservoir continues to climb, albeit slowly)

All dams are constructed with a "reserve" capacity that is greater than the flood control height ... but I have not seen anything on the web as to what that "reserve" capacity is for Fort Peck. My best guess is that it would somewhere in the 5 foot to 10 foot range, probably around 8 feet since that is 1/2 more than the difference between the full capacity and the flood capacity level of the reservoir.

Obviously the dam engineers would like to bring the level down to the normal flood control level, but to do that will require inflows to abate somewhat, which they may if further rain does not occure in the watershed (the problem for that dam has been excessive rain in the watershed ... 1 year's worth in a month about 12 inches).

Liquifaction, which is the danger that the one person claimed as a problem for this dam, would imo take some time to develop even with an overfull reservoir since it would take a while for water to force it's way into the interior of the dam, if it can, and weaken it. As I stated a couple of days ago I believe that would take 2 to 3 weeks of a totally flood full/overfull condition before any problems would start to show up ... and then they would ONLY show up if there was an underlying structural defect in the dam (if there is no underlying defect in the dam then they won't show up at all).

Time to watch the weather forcast for that area!! They need a few days of more outflow than inflow to get the Fort Peck dam down to it's normal "flood full" level of 2250.
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That is not going to happen for sure with the weather reports out.
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Here is a nice report update hourly I think showing all the data if you can read it

[link to www.nwd-mr.usace.army.mil]
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why this still isn't pinned i don't know
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why this still isn't pinned i don't know
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why this still isn't pinned i don't know
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I though it met all the criteria for a pin several stars several bumps not to mention several people mentioning a pin not for sure now what qualifies. oh well lets just keep this alive.

Just found some very disturbing news coming out of St.Louis, MO I am working on getting the news report on Youtube and here
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Check this out very disturbing news ST.Louis areas already flooded along with many road closures in that area.

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sorry not quit done yet on youtube got excited.
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sorry not quit done yet on youtube got excited.
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there it is now its up
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Re: **WARNING** COMING FLOOD...MISSOURI RIVER BASIN...PLEASE HELP!!
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PLEASANT HILL HAS ISSUED A

* FLOOD ADVISORY FOR...
EXTREME NORTHWESTERN ATCHISON COUNTY IN NORTHWEST MISSOURI...

* UNTIL 1130 AM CDT WEDNESDAY

* AT 1129 AM CDT...ATCHISON COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE ARMY
CORPS OF ENGINEERS REPORTED A BREACH OF LEVEE NUMBER 575 ALONG
THE MISSOURI RIVER WHICH HAS BEEN GROWN IN SIZE THE PAST 24 HOURS.
THIS BREACH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1/2 MILE SOUTH OF THE IOWA
AND MISSOURI STATE LINE. CURRENTLY RIVER BOTTOM LAND IS FLOODING
AND WILL CONTINUE TO FLOOD UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. THE FLOOD WATERS
ARE EXPECTED TO SPREAD SLOWLY NORTHEAST AND INTO EXTREME
SOUTHWEST IOWA. AFTER COORDINATION WITH ATCHISON COUNTY EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS...THE MAIN IMPACTS WILL BE THE FLOODING OF
AGRICULTURAL LAND IN THE EXTREME NORTHWEST PART OF THE COUNTY.





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