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***MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT RE: SUN'S 11 YR SUNSPOT CYCLE - MAJOR DROP IN SOLAR ACTIVITY - POSSIBLE ICE AGE??**

 
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I have been very quiet on this forum when it comes to solar activity, even though I watch it continuously and have for the past two years.

However, I have posed a question to those I deem sungods such as sickscent, OTOC and others of the like, and nobody has ever been able to give me an answer. I am no scientist but I would like to put my theory out there.

Today we had an M 1.3:
[link to www.lmsal.com]

I am assuming this is coming from the emerging sunspot which has not yet been given a number and is referenced on spaceweather.com:
[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Here it states a significant sunspot group is emerging over the sun's eastern limb.

Over the past year I have watched as sunspot after sunspot fizzled out as it faced the earth. These same sunspots came to life as they were no longer facing earth, spewing solar flares and CMEs that were expected while the spot was earth facing. Most of the M-class and the two X-class flares we did have were moving away from the earth facing position when they finally decided to show their stuff. I have searched for the answer to this question on GLP for quite some time, with no answer from even the best.

As well, we continuously see storms and solar wind from coronal holes show up with extremely high velocity with little to no density.....over and over again. I know, many will come out and say this is normal, but I beg to differ. I have seen the magnetosphere simulation turn so white it was downright scary, but this last year has been a joke looking at the simulations and charts, even though many sun newbies are freaking out.

My take on this is that the recent lengthy solar minimum has created a weakened earth magnetosphere. I believe that the sun needs a strong earth magnetosphere to interact with to insure a true solar maximum loaded with fantastic sunspots that produce magnificent flares and CMEs and our magnetosphere is no longer in the game with the sun. Every living thing needs interaction - for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction (Newtonian physics). Of course in Quantum physics this is not the case, but I believe our planet still works mostly within Newtonian physics and we are moving from this set of theories to that of higher or more intellegent science.

Then we have the huge CME that blasted out a massive amount of protons a week or so ago. I am questioning this and have to wonder if this sunspot, not having the interaction with earth's magnetosphere, was burning a huge gaping hole in the sun itself, as if the section of the sun was dying. Yet once it began to move away from an earth facing position, it spewed a CME like a volcanic blast. I remember reading that the temperature of this blast had areas that were much cooler than that of the sun.

And then we have fluffy, the magnetic fluff, causing yet even more unusual interaction with the sun. Maybe fluffy is responsible for our lenghty solar minimum or our weakening magnetospher. I'll leave that to sickscent, however, as the resident GLP expert on this subject.

This article posted on this thread does lend the smalles amount of credence to my theories:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

Pay specific attention to items number 2 and 3 towards the bottom of the article.

I know my theories are a bit archaic and elementary to say the least. I am a researcher but not a scientist by far - very much a novice. What I want to say to GLPers is that my theories, no matter how small, came from my own thoughts, coupled with the articles, opinions and ideas of people here on GLP. We are in a period of time in which even NASA is scratching their heads. They change their theories before we can come to terms with their previous ones. We need to work together to bring knowledge to each other, rather than the bickering shilling that goes on continuously. We are in some strange times and we have no one but each other. It would be a shame to let all of this group knowledge go untapped.
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Nostradamus prophesied about the "lowering" of the Sun's brightness (which will be so dim, the Moon will not reflect its light), and associates it with famine and plague:

Nostradamus IV:30
Eleven more times the Moon the Sun will not want,
All raised and lowered by degree:
And put so low that one will stitch little gold:
Such that after famine plague, the secret uncovered.

So it is written, so it shall be done! [link to www.shugborough.info]
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Three words to replace with Global Warming, ABRUPT CLIMATE CHANGE! Global warming was an unintended misnomer but the concept of a stochastic climate change event a brilliant revelation for modern times. Read more and observe your surroundings for truth. Also, understand as the Earth warms it will lead to an asymmetric nonlinear increase in evaporation globally (fluid dynamics, heat and a volatile atmosphere), more clouds, more very unpredictable torrential storms and eventual cooling thus an ice age, key word, eventually. Nonlinear fluid dynamics and stochasm is a bitch!
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Finally! Someone who believes me!

I've been saying this same thing for 20 years and people look at me like I'm not "up with the times".

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Thank you!
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I have been very quiet on this forum when it comes to solar activity, even though I watch it continuously and have for the past two years.

However, I have posed a question to those I deem sungods such as sickscent, OTOC and others of the like, and nobody has ever been able to give me an answer. I am no scientist but I would like to put my theory out there.

Today we had an M 1.3:
[link to www.lmsal.com]

I am assuming this is coming from the emerging sunspot which has not yet been given a number and is referenced on spaceweather.com:
[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Here it states a significant sunspot group is emerging over the sun's eastern limb.

Over the past year I have watched as sunspot after sunspot fizzled out as it faced the earth. These same sunspots came to life as they were no longer facing earth, spewing solar flares and CMEs that were expected while the spot was earth facing. Most of the M-class and the two X-class flares we did have were moving away from the earth facing position when they finally decided to show their stuff. I have searched for the answer to this question on GLP for quite some time, with no answer from even the best.

As well, we continuously see storms and solar wind from coronal holes show up with extremely high velocity with little to no density.....over and over again. I know, many will come out and say this is normal, but I beg to differ. I have seen the magnetosphere simulation turn so white it was downright scary, but this last year has been a joke looking at the simulations and charts, even though many sun newbies are freaking out.

My take on this is that the recent lengthy solar minimum has created a weakened earth magnetosphere. I believe that the sun needs a strong earth magnetosphere to interact with to insure a true solar maximum loaded with fantastic sunspots that produce magnificent flares and CMEs and our magnetosphere is no longer in the game with the sun. Every living thing needs interaction - for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction (Newtonian physics). Of course in Quantum physics this is not the case, but I believe our planet still works mostly within Newtonian physics and we are moving from this set of theories to that of higher or more intellegent science.

Then we have the huge CME that blasted out a massive amount of protons a week or so ago. I am questioning this and have to wonder if this sunspot, not having the interaction with earth's magnetosphere, was burning a huge gaping hole in the sun itself, as if the section of the sun was dying. Yet once it began to move away from an earth facing position, it spewed a CME like a volcanic blast. I remember reading that the temperature of this blast had areas that were much cooler than that of the sun.

And then we have fluffy, the magnetic fluff, causing yet even more unusual interaction with the sun. Maybe fluffy is responsible for our lenghty solar minimum or our weakening magnetospher. I'll leave that to sickscent, however, as the resident GLP expert on this subject.

This article posted on this thread does lend the smalles amount of credence to my theories:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

Pay specific attention to items number 2 and 3 towards the bottom of the article.

I know my theories are a bit archaic and elementary to say the least. I am a researcher but not a scientist by far - very much a novice. What I want to say to GLPers is that my theories, no matter how small, came from my own thoughts, coupled with the articles, opinions and ideas of people here on GLP. We are in a period of time in which even NASA is scratching their heads. They change their theories before we can come to terms with their previous ones. We need to work together to bring knowledge to each other, rather than the bickering shilling that goes on continuously. We are in some strange times and we have no one but each other. It would be a shame to let all of this group knowledge go untapped.
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Nostradamus prophesied about the "lowering" of the Sun's brightness (which will be so dim, the Moon will not reflect its light), and associates it with famine and plague:

Nostradamus IV:30
Eleven more times the Moon the Sun will not want,
All raised and lowered by degree:
And put so low that one will stitch little gold:
Such that after famine plague, the secret uncovered.

 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


Interesting. Isn't a solar cycle 11 years or am I just really tired now and not thinking clearly. Wonder what the secret is?
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Maybe the idea of more radiation is really just a cover for the crap Fukishima is putting out.
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I have been very quiet on this forum when it comes to solar activity, even though I watch it continuously and have for the past two years.

However, I have posed a question to those I deem sungods such as sickscent, OTOC and others of the like, and nobody has ever been able to give me an answer. I am no scientist but I would like to put my theory out there.

Today we had an M 1.3:
[link to www.lmsal.com]

I am assuming this is coming from the emerging sunspot which has not yet been given a number and is referenced on spaceweather.com:
[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Here it states a significant sunspot group is emerging over the sun's eastern limb.

Over the past year I have watched as sunspot after sunspot fizzled out as it faced the earth. These same sunspots came to life as they were no longer facing earth, spewing solar flares and CMEs that were expected while the spot was earth facing. Most of the M-class and the two X-class flares we did have were moving away from the earth facing position when they finally decided to show their stuff. I have searched for the answer to this question on GLP for quite some time, with no answer from even the best.

As well, we continuously see storms and solar wind from coronal holes show up with extremely high velocity with little to no density.....over and over again. I know, many will come out and say this is normal, but I beg to differ. I have seen the magnetosphere simulation turn so white it was downright scary, but this last year has been a joke looking at the simulations and charts, even though many sun newbies are freaking out.

My take on this is that the recent lengthy solar minimum has created a weakened earth magnetosphere. I believe that the sun needs a strong earth magnetosphere to interact with to insure a true solar maximum loaded with fantastic sunspots that produce magnificent flares and CMEs and our magnetosphere is no longer in the game with the sun. Every living thing needs interaction - for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction (Newtonian physics). Of course in Quantum physics this is not the case, but I believe our planet still works mostly within Newtonian physics and we are moving from this set of theories to that of higher or more intellegent science.

Then we have the huge CME that blasted out a massive amount of protons a week or so ago. I am questioning this and have to wonder if this sunspot, not having the interaction with earth's magnetosphere, was burning a huge gaping hole in the sun itself, as if the section of the sun was dying. Yet once it began to move away from an earth facing position, it spewed a CME like a volcanic blast. I remember reading that the temperature of this blast had areas that were much cooler than that of the sun.

And then we have fluffy, the magnetic fluff, causing yet even more unusual interaction with the sun. Maybe fluffy is responsible for our lenghty solar minimum or our weakening magnetospher. I'll leave that to sickscent, however, as the resident GLP expert on this subject.

This article posted on this thread does lend the smalles amount of credence to my theories:
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

Pay specific attention to items number 2 and 3 towards the bottom of the article.

I know my theories are a bit archaic and elementary to say the least. I am a researcher but not a scientist by far - very much a novice. What I want to say to GLPers is that my theories, no matter how small, came from my own thoughts, coupled with the articles, opinions and ideas of people here on GLP. We are in a period of time in which even NASA is scratching their heads. They change their theories before we can come to terms with their previous ones. We need to work together to bring knowledge to each other, rather than the bickering shilling that goes on continuously. We are in some strange times and we have no one but each other. It would be a shame to let all of this group knowledge go untapped.
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Regarding item number 3, they're extrapolating 15+ years based on the past 11 years of a cycle.

The data spread is better illustrated in this article:
[link to search.yahoo.com]

Here's 1992-2003 data:
[link to search.yahoo.com]

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I like Cucumber.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Oh Shit..wrong Forum!?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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More Information on the conference:

SPD Meeting 2011
Las Cruces, NM, USA
June 12-16

[link to astronomy.nmsu.edu]
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The mexican drug cartel will be providing refreshments also.
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Just more bullshit to ask for more funding.
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gotta bolster their "appeal" for heavy duty cap n trade fees/fines/taxes

such as $125.00 per cow

just for starters

now if you plan on breathing that is of course EXTRA
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Sorry I just posted another thread ..couldn't find this at first...

So are we fucked!?
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Here's some info I posted in a 535 thread about a cool, dark sun...

AC 535 said it was pretty close to the truth:

And for what it's worth, 535 AD was a time when the sun dimmed, causing climate change. One hypothesis was that Krakatoa had erupted violently and its ash obscured the sun.

Another article suggests that the sun itself changed:

"Each day, the morning sunrise is taken for granted. Based on the laws of science, it is expected that the sun will rise each day from east to west. Yet, the question must be asked, “what would happen if the sun didn’t rise?” This was the case from AD 535 through AD 546, with the darkest days in AD 536.

“A mighty roar of thunder” came out of the local mountain; there was a furious shaking of the earth, total darkness, thunder and lightning.”1 A Chinese court journal also made mention of “a huge thunderous sound coming from the south west” in February 535.2 And as a Hopi elder had said, thousands of miles away, “When the changes begin, there will be a big noise heard all over the Earth,”3 a low rumble reverberated across the planet.

“The sun began to go dark, rain poured red, as if tinted by blood. Clouds of dust enveloped the earth… Yellow dust rained down like snow. It could be scooped up in handfuls,”5 wrote The Nan Shi Ancient Chronicle of Southern China, referring to the country’s weather in November and December 535.

Darkness followed making the day indistinguishable from the night. “There was a sign from the Sun, the likes of which had never been seen or reported before. The Sun became dark, and its darkness lasted for about 18 months. Each day, it shone for about four hours and still this light was only a feeble shadow. Everyone declared that the Sun would never recover its full light again. The fruits did not ripen and the wine tasted like sour grapes,”6 John of Ephesus, a Syrian bishop and contemporary writer, wrote in describing the unending darkness. “The sun became dim… for nearly the whole year… so that the fruits were killed at an unseasonable time,” John Lydus added, which was further confirmed by Procopius, a prominent Roman historian who served as Emperor Justinian’s chief archivist and secretary, when he wrote of 536, “…during this year a most dread portent took place. For the sun gave forth its light without brightness, like the Moon, during this whole year… and it seemed exceedingly like the sun in eclipse, for the beams it shed were not clear.”7 “The sun… seems to have lost its wonted light, and appears of a bluish color. We marvel to see no shadows of our bodies at noon, to feel the mighty vigor of the sun’s heat wasted into feebleness,”8 Flavius Cassiodorus, another Roman historian wrote. Reports even indicated that midday consisted of “almost night-like darkness.”9

A cold then gripped the world as temperatures declined. “We have had a winter without storms…”10 “a spring without mildness [and] a summer without heat… The months which should have been maturing the crops have been chilled by north winds,”11 wrote Cassiodorus. “When can we hope for mild weather, now that the months that once ripened the crops have become deadly sick under the northern blasts? …Out of all the elements, we find these two against us: perpetual frost and unnatural drought,”12 he added,13 while in China, it was written, “the stars were lost from view for three months. The sun dimmed, the rain failed, and snow fell in the summertime. Famine spread, and the emperor abandoned his capital…”14 Other Chinese records referred to a “‘dust veil’ obscuring the sky” while Mediterranean historians wrote about a “‘dry fog’ blocking out much of the sun’s heat for more than year.”15 The sun was so ineffective that snow even fell during August in southern China and in every month of the year in northern Europe."

[link to ezinearticles.com]

Interesting in light of what 535 said about the sun entering Stage III.


Food for thought?
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Indeed! But 536 AD was also the year when a comet struck and nearly destroyed Britain, its path extending to Bolivia. In short, there was more going on than volcanic outbursts and this year started the Dark Ages, a period to go on for some 300 years.

mclinking
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And as a Hopi elder had said, thousands of miles away, “When the changes begin, there will be a big noise heard all over the Earth,” a low rumble reverberated across the planet.
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The heavenly sign of Revelation 12 speaks about hearing the "cries of a pregnant woman" coming from the constellation Virgo (the woman) where the sun will be when this celestial event happens.

Revelation 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
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And as a Hopi elder had said, thousands of miles away, “When the changes begin, there will be a big noise heard all over the Earth,” a low rumble reverberated across the planet.
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The heavenly sign of Revelation 12 speaks about hearing the "cries of a pregnant woman" coming from the constellation Virgo (the woman) where the sun will be when this celestial event happens.

Revelation 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
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This September maybe ?

It's near the 'Elenin' time frame, along with the Mayan calendar date and the Edgar Casey map is starting to piece itself together as well.
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Just refound this thread....Very interesting and with other current topics fits in nicely with what we are saying here, i.e something is happening with the Sun , BUT it aint what they are saying!
Thread: Russian Scientist Alexey Demetriev: Doomsday Coming, NASA Knows It!
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This thread by Sickscent is the same and even better:

<<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" *** Do You Want to Know How it ALL Ends

Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment
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Thanks I forgot about Boeing guy! Look like he was/is onto something? My hypothesis...What if a massive solar flare knocks out all the infrastructure (as many say will happen) then due to this we would be returned to a very dark time(literally) later due to this and a solar minimum we would expect a large scale natural die-off of a large percentage of the population through a mini ice-age. Coupled with earthquakes, volcanoes and radiation, I think we are getting there and they are just giving those that listen a chance to prepare! Sounds just as feasible as other SCIENTIFIC theories no?
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Three words to replace with Global Warming, ABRUPT CLIMATE CHANGE! Global warming was an unintended misnomer but the concept of a stochastic climate change event a brilliant revelation for modern times. Read more and observe your surroundings for truth. Also, understand as the Earth warms it will lead to an asymmetric nonlinear increase in evaporation globally (fluid dynamics, heat and a volatile atmosphere), more clouds, more very unpredictable torrential storms and eventual cooling thus an ice age, key word, eventually. Nonlinear fluid dynamics and stochasm is a bitch!
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Finally! Someone who believes me!

I've been saying this same thing for 20 years and people look at me like I'm not "up with the times".

blink

Thank you!
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THIS STATEMENT REALLY SHOWS THEY'RE ON THE BALL?!?!?!

"Cycle 24 started out late and slow and may not be strong enough to create a rush to the poles, indicating we'll see a very weak solar maximum in 2013, if at all," Altrock said. "If the rush to the poles fails to complete, this creates a tremendous dilemma for the theorists, as it would mean that Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions. … No one knows what the sun will do in that case."
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During a solar maximum, the magnetic poles of the sun does a flip:
[link to science.nasa.gov]

This means that if "Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions", then during the solar miximum of Cycle 24 (which happens in 2013), we will have two magnetic fields in the sun having reversed directions!

And when the slow moving magnetic field of Cycle 24 reaches the polar regions while the magnetic filed of Cycle 23 is still there, then we will see the merging of like magnetic poles from two different magnetic fields, and this could result to tne Sun turning into a magnetic monopole!

As you know, like magnetic poles from two magnetic fields will repel each other, so when the like poles of Cycle 23 and Cycle 24 merges, material from the Sun will be expelled. The material that will be expelled will be magnetic monopoles as well, having the like magnetic pole that merged, leaving the rest of the Sun having the magnetic pole that did not merge.
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Excellent information! Thank you

Here's some info I posted in a 535 thread about a cool, dark sun...

AC 535 said it was pretty close to the truth:

And for what it's worth, 535 AD was a time when the sun dimmed, causing climate change. One hypothesis was that Krakatoa had erupted violently and its ash obscured the sun.

Another article suggests that the sun itself changed:

"Each day, the morning sunrise is taken for granted. Based on the laws of science, it is expected that the sun will rise each day from east to west. Yet, the question must be asked, “what would happen if the sun didn’t rise?” This was the case from AD 535 through AD 546, with the darkest days in AD 536.

“A mighty roar of thunder” came out of the local mountain; there was a furious shaking of the earth, total darkness, thunder and lightning.”1 A Chinese court journal also made mention of “a huge thunderous sound coming from the south west” in February 535.2 And as a Hopi elder had said, thousands of miles away, “When the changes begin, there will be a big noise heard all over the Earth,”3 a low rumble reverberated across the planet.

“The sun began to go dark, rain poured red, as if tinted by blood. Clouds of dust enveloped the earth… Yellow dust rained down like snow. It could be scooped up in handfuls,”5 wrote The Nan Shi Ancient Chronicle of Southern China, referring to the country’s weather in November and December 535.

Darkness followed making the day indistinguishable from the night. “There was a sign from the Sun, the likes of which had never been seen or reported before. The Sun became dark, and its darkness lasted for about 18 months. Each day, it shone for about four hours and still this light was only a feeble shadow. Everyone declared that the Sun would never recover its full light again. The fruits did not ripen and the wine tasted like sour grapes,”6 John of Ephesus, a Syrian bishop and contemporary writer, wrote in describing the unending darkness. “The sun became dim… for nearly the whole year… so that the fruits were killed at an unseasonable time,” John Lydus added, which was further confirmed by Procopius, a prominent Roman historian who served as Emperor Justinian’s chief archivist and secretary, when he wrote of 536, “…during this year a most dread portent took place. For the sun gave forth its light without brightness, like the Moon, during this whole year… and it seemed exceedingly like the sun in eclipse, for the beams it shed were not clear.”7 “The sun… seems to have lost its wonted light, and appears of a bluish color. We marvel to see no shadows of our bodies at noon, to feel the mighty vigor of the sun’s heat wasted into feebleness,”8 Flavius Cassiodorus, another Roman historian wrote. Reports even indicated that midday consisted of “almost night-like darkness.”9

A cold then gripped the world as temperatures declined. “We have had a winter without storms…”10 “a spring without mildness [and] a summer without heat… The months which should have been maturing the crops have been chilled by north winds,”11 wrote Cassiodorus. “When can we hope for mild weather, now that the months that once ripened the crops have become deadly sick under the northern blasts? …Out of all the elements, we find these two against us: perpetual frost and unnatural drought,”12 he added,13 while in China, it was written, “the stars were lost from view for three months. The sun dimmed, the rain failed, and snow fell in the summertime. Famine spread, and the emperor abandoned his capital…”14 Other Chinese records referred to a “‘dust veil’ obscuring the sky” while Mediterranean historians wrote about a “‘dry fog’ blocking out much of the sun’s heat for more than year.”15 The sun was so ineffective that snow even fell during August in southern China and in every month of the year in northern Europe."

[link to ezinearticles.com]

Interesting in light of what 535 said about the sun entering Stage III.


Food for thought?
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This means that if "Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions", then during the solar miximum of Cycle 24 (which happens in 2013), we will have two magnetic fields in the sun having reversed directions!

And when the slow moving magnetic field of Cycle 24 reaches the polar regions while the magnetic filed of Cycle 23 is still there, then we will see the merging of like magnetic poles from two different magnetic fields, and this could result to tne Sun turning into a magnetic monopole!

As you know, like magnetic poles from two magnetic fields will repel each other, so when the like poles of Cycle 23 and Cycle 24 merge, material from the Sun will be expelled. The material that will be expelled will be magnetic monopoles as well, having the like magnetic pole that merged, leaving the rest of the Sun having the magnetic pole that did not merge.
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The material from the Sun which will be expelled will be magnetic monopoles, which Dr. Dave Goldberg believe are dark matter as well:
[link to io9.com]

This dark matter is undetectable by emitted or scattered electromagnetic radiation (light):
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And this could be the darkness "that can be felt" which God used to plague Egypt at the time of Moses:

Exodus 10:21-23, NAS 21 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand toward the sky, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even a darkness which may be felt.” 22 So Moses stretched out his hand toward the sky, and there was thick darkness in all the land of Egypt for three days. They did not see one another, nor did anyone rise from his place for three days, but all the sons of Israel had light in their dwellings.

Any source of light will be useless when one is enveloped by dark matter.

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Here's some info I posted in a 535 thread about a cool, dark sun...

AC 535 said it was pretty close to the truth:

And for what it's worth, 535 AD was a time when the sun dimmed, causing climate change. One hypothesis was that Krakatoa had erupted violently and its ash obscured the sun.

Another article suggests that the sun itself changed:

"Each day, the morning sunrise is taken for granted. Based on the laws of science, it is expected that the sun will rise each day from east to west. Yet, the question must be asked, “what would happen if the sun didn’t rise?” This was the case from AD 535 through AD 546, with the darkest days in AD 536.

“A mighty roar of thunder” came out of the local mountain; there was a furious shaking of the earth, total darkness, thunder and lightning.”1 A Chinese court journal also made mention of “a huge thunderous sound coming from the south west” in February 535.2 And as a Hopi elder had said, thousands of miles away, “When the changes begin, there will be a big noise heard all over the Earth,”3 a low rumble reverberated across the planet.

“The sun began to go dark, rain poured red, as if tinted by blood. Clouds of dust enveloped the earth… Yellow dust rained down like snow. It could be scooped up in handfuls,”5 wrote The Nan Shi Ancient Chronicle of Southern China, referring to the country’s weather in November and December 535.

Darkness followed making the day indistinguishable from the night. “There was a sign from the Sun, the likes of which had never been seen or reported before. The Sun became dark, and its darkness lasted for about 18 months. Each day, it shone for about four hours and still this light was only a feeble shadow. Everyone declared that the Sun would never recover its full light again. The fruits did not ripen and the wine tasted like sour grapes,”6 John of Ephesus, a Syrian bishop and contemporary writer, wrote in describing the unending darkness. “The sun became dim… for nearly the whole year… so that the fruits were killed at an unseasonable time,” John Lydus added, which was further confirmed by Procopius, a prominent Roman historian who served as Emperor Justinian’s chief archivist and secretary, when he wrote of 536, “…during this year a most dread portent took place. For the sun gave forth its light without brightness, like the Moon, during this whole year… and it seemed exceedingly like the sun in eclipse, for the beams it shed were not clear.”7 “The sun… seems to have lost its wonted light, and appears of a bluish color. We marvel to see no shadows of our bodies at noon, to feel the mighty vigor of the sun’s heat wasted into feebleness,”8 Flavius Cassiodorus, another Roman historian wrote. Reports even indicated that midday consisted of “almost night-like darkness.”9

A cold then gripped the world as temperatures declined. “We have had a winter without storms…”10 “a spring without mildness [and] a summer without heat… The months which should have been maturing the crops have been chilled by north winds,”11 wrote Cassiodorus. “When can we hope for mild weather, now that the months that once ripened the crops have become deadly sick under the northern blasts? …Out of all the elements, we find these two against us: perpetual frost and unnatural drought,”12 he added,13 while in China, it was written, “the stars were lost from view for three months. The sun dimmed, the rain failed, and snow fell in the summertime. Famine spread, and the emperor abandoned his capital…”14 Other Chinese records referred to a “‘dust veil’ obscuring the sky” while Mediterranean historians wrote about a “‘dry fog’ blocking out much of the sun’s heat for more than year.”15 The sun was so ineffective that snow even fell during August in southern China and in every month of the year in northern Europe."

[link to ezinearticles.com]

Interesting in light of what 535 said about the sun entering Stage III.


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>>>>> ”1 A Chinese court journal also made mention of “a huge thunderous sound coming from the south west” <<<<

535AD has nothing to do with solar cycle...

It was one of the big ones (south west of china)..
from Indonesia, maybe Krakatoa, mt Tambora or another one.

The signs, dust, dru fog,cold snow in summer (nuclear winter
from the dust on the atmosphere) are all of a Big Volcano eruption. A Big Normal Volcano.

If it was a supervolcano (Toba, Lake Taupo or another one)
we would not be here today to talk.
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I don't know about you guys but since that announcement yesterday, the temperature here in Western NC has dropped about 20 degrees from the day before. Maybe this was their way of warning about an ice age without coming right out and saying it. Either way, the cooler temperature is much preferred so no complaints!
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Maybe this was their way of warning about an ice age without coming right out and saying it.
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I'm beginning to think they are warning us little by little.
I came across this article today.

Rocky Mountain Snowpack Declines Are Unusual
Partnering with the Universities of Arizona, Washington, Wyoming, and Western Ontario, the USGS led a study evaluating the recent declines in the snowpack by investigating 66 tree-ring chronologies which looked back 500 to more than 1,000 years.

Throughout that time, with a few exceptions in the mid-14th and early 15th centuries, the snowpack reconstructions showed that the northern Rocky Mountains experience large snowpacks when the southern Rocky Mountains experience smaller ones, and vice versa.

However, since the 1980s there have been simultaneous declines along the entire length of the Rocky Mountains, with unusually dramatic declines in the north.
[link to uk.ibtimes.com]




The Little Ice Age is a period between about 1300 and 1870 during which Europe and North America were subjected to much colder winters than during the 20th century. The period and can be divided in two phases, the first beginning around 1300 and continuing until the late 1400s. [link to www.eh-resources.org]
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‘Major Result’ on Sunspot Cycle is a Diversion Away from this Increasingly Wild Solar Maximum


What the? ‘Major Result’ on Sunspot Cycle made us all look last Tuesday and see what the fuss was about. And then the report came: Sun’s Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity. What a piece of garbage projected fairy tale. They want you to skip thinking about the running up CURRENT solar activity to solar maximum from 2011 to 2014 and project that the decades after that will be all quiet, quiet, quiet…. What the?

Me thinks this is to cover up the 2011 running up… waking up of the Sun. The big M2 solar flare last June 7 and the “mistakenly” reported X20 solar flare last June 8. European and American dailies were full of scares of blackouts and auroras. Public was waking up to observe the sun, observe the sun. Where there is increasing solar activity, there is increasing tornadoes, typhoons, hurricanes, earthquakes. Of course June 7 there was a lot of planetary alignments with the Sun and which included comet Elenin in the picture.

This ‘Major Result’ was intended to make the public fall asleep on the issue again. The drum up to Solar Maximum is NOW! 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014. What that ‘Major article wants to do is put you to sleep and not mind the PRESENT. Geezzzz… And I lost sleep last night waiting for it. Grrr…..

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‘Major Result’ on Sunspot Cycle is a Diversion Away from this Increasingly Wild Solar Maximum


What the? ‘Major Result’ on Sunspot Cycle made us all look last Tuesday and see what the fuss was about. And then the report came: Sun’s Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity. What a piece of garbage projected fairy tale. They want you to skip thinking about the running up CURRENT solar activity to solar maximum from 2011 to 2014 and project that the decades after that will be all quiet, quiet, quiet…. What the?

Me thinks this is to cover up the 2011 running up… waking up of the Sun. The big M2 solar flare last June 7 and the “mistakenly” reported X20 solar flare last June 8. European and American dailies were full of scares of blackouts and auroras. Public was waking up to observe the sun, observe the sun. Where there is increasing solar activity, there is increasing tornadoes, typhoons, hurricanes, earthquakes. Of course June 7 there was a lot of planetary alignments with the Sun and which included comet Elenin in the picture.

This ‘Major Result’ was intended to make the public fall asleep on the issue again. The drum up to Solar Maximum is NOW! 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014. What that ‘Major article wants to do is put you to sleep and not mind the PRESENT. Geezzzz… And I lost sleep last night waiting for it. Grrr…..

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Also could be a cheap way for the petroleum industry and war makers to say we will need to increase greenhouse gases to warm the atmosphere in the future. Pay off a few solar scientists. Its alot easier than paying off the entire scientific community, and it is hard to disprove since sun spot activity predictions are akin to reading tea leaves.
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I don't know about you guys but since that announcement yesterday, the temperature here in Western NC has dropped about 20 degrees from the day before. Maybe this was their way of warning about an ice age without coming right out and saying it. Either way, the cooler temperature is much preferred so no complaints!
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Same thing happened in southeastern PA. Funny thing too is that the skys are clear....no chemtrails, almost no clouds. It's odd how one notices a clear day. Meanwhile, I am enjoying the cool air.

and then again...where is our jetstream?
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I don't know about you guys but since that announcement yesterday, the temperature here in Western NC has dropped about 20 degrees from the day before. Maybe this was their way of warning about an ice age without coming right out and saying it. Either way, the cooler temperature is much preferred so no complaints!
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Same thing happened in southeastern PA. Funny thing too is that the skys are clear....no chemtrails, almost no clouds. It's odd how one notices a clear day. Meanwhile, I am enjoying the cool air.

and then again...where is our jetstream?
[link to images.intellicast.com]
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I beleieve the jet stream has now been sufficiently damaged by ash clouds in chile heading north, coupled with the ecological and ambiental damage in the gulf of mexico to function as before. The heat just aint coming form the south as much as it should'looks like an early (likely severe) winter for you ...

(nice tune too)


Gulf stream all awry

You are Godlike unto your domain, did you forget that - or did you just choose to ignore it?...

See you on the other side :)

1...million...souls...
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Well there´s three possibilities here, either....

#1 they are going to announce some boring technical crap about sunspots.

#2 Inform us we are all going to die by the sun kicking out some heavy shit.

#3 Inform us that we are in danger due to an upcoming massive solar storm or flare and we should all hide in caves for a while.


Seeing as #2 and #3 would cause mayhem, looting, riots and religous nuts claiming the comming of some god and probably end up topping themselves, the first one looks favourite.
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