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Who were the Lemurians and who were the Atlantians?

 
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Who were the Lemurians and who were the Atlantians?
I always was puzzelled with the ancient people called the Lemurians and the Atlantians. Does anyone know much about these people. Once their Continents existed then I wonder if a Tidal Wave or a massive hurricane worst then Katrina destroyed it? Here on our Planet we see 5 races, Negroes, Caucasians, American Indians, and Orientals. Most likely they are the decendents of the Lemurians and the Atlantians and possibly ETs as well.
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does it hurt when you think?

i mean with that mechanical brain and such thoughts.

no need to reply.
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Atlantis was an advanced civilization that destroyed itself through the use of black magic.
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If you can find a copy of the paperback book "The World Before" by Ruth Montgomery in the New Age section of major bookstores, it will explain those two continents and the people.

The Lemurians were first and were psychic and gentle, non-warlike people. Lemuria (also called Mu and Pan) was a huge continent in the Pacific Ocean. It sank under the ocean about 50,000 years ago .

The civilization of Atlantis was on a continent in the Atlantic Ocean during and after Lemuria was destroyed. Atlantis was destroyed gradually over 3 disasters several thousand years apart, the first was being affected by Lemuria´s sinking, next an event that reduced it to a group of islands, and later a final total destruction.
Whereas Lemuria was destroyed by a huge natural disaster (aided by outside forces according to Oahspe www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/aph.html ) Atlantis was destroyed by its scientists tinkering with dangerous weapon technology that eventually destroyed them. Atlantis was a technologically advanced country with agressive warlike people, unlike the gentle spiritual Lemurians.
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There is a wonderful novel by Taylor Caldwell called "The Romance of Atlantis" that she wrote when she was around 14 years old, telling the story of a ruler of Atlantis during the time of its destruction and giving a very interesting details of its civilization and philosophy.

[link to www.amazon.com]
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From the channeled "Ra Material" Book 1
[link to www.llresearch.org]

The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us first look at the Mu entities.

They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately 53,000 of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere´s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They sent out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians are the descendents of these entities.

The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately 31,000 years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian one until approximately 15,000 of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in an informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well to manipulate greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call negative.

Approximately 11,000 of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to be destroyed. The second and most devasting of the conflicts occurred approximately 10,821 years in the past. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical area before the devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.
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Lemurians were a race of male looking hermephrodites, they had a smallish horn in the middle of their foreheads that was actually a brain extension and enabled them to have telepathic communication.
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the lemurians are a bit more ancient than the atlantians.
atlantians first started out ok-ish but were evil after a while.....think of the USA of now :)
decadance, indulgence, war, consuming, destroying their enviroments etc etc started ruling over atlantis and then it ended.....BAM.

lemuria was also something similar.

it is very funny to see all these new age morons act like they were atlantians in past lives and were so advanced and good while the atlantians were just evil so and sos who murdered many nations.

the leaders had descendants btw, and they still rule over the nations now.
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my friend in the nut house said i am a lemurian
but i really don´t remember

shirley andrews book has some great research in it re: archeology

read interesting thing about AA and the twelve steps being the cure for atlantean syndrome
which consists of always looking for something
external to fill an emptiness that is visceral

i get that
kicked alcohol, other stuff
but die hard nicotine
and nail biter too
must have been that enfamil they told my mom
was better for me than her milk
what a trip
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nearMUse, a nice example of a tool by the ones who rule.
they did a nice job on you son!

baby
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The Atlantis myth has real staying power...it´s been around since the 4th century B.C. We´ll have to wait a couple of millennia to see whether the Lemuria myth, which dates back only to the late 19th century, will be as durable.
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Now we´re on the subject of vanished races/civilisations,anybody any clues on the locations and characteristics of Ultima-Thule and Hyperborea,those mythical lands in ancient times?
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That´s "imaginary", not "vanished".
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Im just amazed! you actually got intelligent responses, Instead of the regular avaturds spaming the shit out of a good thread with dribble.

Heres what I can add to your question:

Lemuria was an ancient civilization which existed prior to and during the time of Atlantis. Physically, it is believed that Lemuria existed largely in the Southern Pacific, between North America and Asia/Australia. Lemuria is also sometimes referred to as Mu, or the Motherland (of Mu). At its peak of civilization, the Lemurian people were both highly evolved and very spiritual. While concrete physical evidence of this ancient continent may be difficult to find, many people "know" that they have a strong connection to Lemuria.
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Haven´t come across Hyperborea much
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Hyperborea


From a 1507 Ruysch map, showing the islands around the North Pole, and the Hyperborean region.

According to Pliny, the Hyperboreans lived beyond the Ripaean mountains (which is a generic term for the mountains of Northern Europe and Russia.) They are a happy race, and "all discord and all sorrow is unknown." The Hyperboreans live to extreme old age, dying by leaping off a certain rock into the sea after having a full life. The sun rises in the midsummer, and then sets in midwinter, and there is a "delightful climate." Pliny goes on to say that "Some authorities have placed these people not in Europe but on the nearest part of the coasts of Asia, because there is a race there with similar customs and a similar location, named the Attaci." (Pliny Book IV, sec 89.) (Rackham, 1942.)
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In other words, Temple Cat, all that we "know" about Lemuria consists of the fantasies of the more-or-less-deranged.
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Lemuria was purely hypothetical. It was proposed by some 19th century scientists to explain similarities between animals in India and Madagascar, hence the name LEMURia, Lemurs are found in Madagascar.

Once we understood plate techtonics we realised that no continent existed between India and Madagascar, the similarities in the animals is because they were once joined together directly.
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Dweller on Two Planets by Phylos the Tibetan is a great book. Very interesting to read and from all I have read and studied it seems to be an accurate depiction of life on Atlantis.

The Lemurians lived long, long ago and I don´t know much about them.
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Hadn´t heard of these before. I guess when civilizations fall, people still remember and talk about them. And that they were in areas that are now completely different climates - maybe there was a poleshift that moved the area from warm to frozen and thus destroyed the civilizaton.

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Thule

Also called Tile or Ultima Thule.

To the ancient Greeks, Thule was the northernmost habitable region of the world. One of the first recorded sea journeys in the Atlantic was by Pytheas of Massalia, who sailed to England in about 330 B.C. from his Greek colony in what is now Marseilles, France (although he probably traveled over land to the port of Corbilo and sailed from there.) He wrote about his voyage in a book called About the Ocean of which no copies exist, but he is quoted in other works. Pytheas visited Britan, where tin was traded, and possibly Ireland, the Hebrides, and the Orkneys. Then he went to "Thule" which was described as the outermost of all countries, where the night was very short- 2 or 3 hours long. It could be reached by sailing north from Britan for six days. Pytheas was told that north of Thule the sea was solid and there was no night in the summer. In this area, the ocean is kind of substance resembling "sea-lungs" (jellyfish) where the earth, sea and air all blend together. Pliny adds that one day´s sail from Thule is the Cronian Sea (the frozen ocean.)

On maps, Thule usually appears north or northwest of England and Ireland or in the northernmost parts of Asia. It has been associated with early reports of Iceland, or the Shetland Islands, but could have been Trondheim in Norway as well.
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Hi Dr.P,actually today I was wondering whether you´d abandoned us and there you are,correcting my question,ain´t that a coincidence!? If apparently Pliny( Plinius) in ancient times referred to the Hyperborean race,would he be referring to a myth or a legend?As you know,it´s not quite the same.
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From what I understand there was no continent in the middle of the Atlantic -- where would it be? Pangea, the original single continent, split leaving Europe/Africa and North/South America with what appears to be, and is, a near-perfect puzzle fit.

Apparently there was an island, or a portion of a continent, in the Mediterranean which did go under at one time, probably due to volcanic activity, which led to the myths and legends that have been passed down.

I´ve never even heard of a fabled continent that sank in the Pacific.

As far as races go, it´s my understanding that Caucasoids, Negroids and Mongoloids are descendents of Shem, Ham and Japheth -- Noah´s sons. They split off and went in different directions to form distinctive societies. Native Americans are Mongoloids who passed over the Sebring land bridge during the ice age when sea levels were lower.

There may have been many more races before the Flood, but naturally only the survivors´ genes were passed on.

By the way, if the Bible story is accurate, every descendent of Cain was killed in the flood. Noah and his family are direct descendents of Seth, Adam & Eve´s third son.


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The capital of Atlantis as described by Plato.

The story of the lost continent of Atlantis starts in 355 B.C. with the Greek philosopher Plato. Plato had planned to write a trilogy of books discussing the nature of man, the creation of the world, and the story of Atlantis, as well as other subjects. Only the first book was ever completed. The second book was abandoned part way through, and the final book was never even started.

Plato used a series of dialogues to express his ideas. In this type of writing, the author´s thoughts are explored in a series of arguments and debates between various characters in the story. Plato often used real people in his dialogues, such as his teacher, Socrates, but the words he gave them were his own.

A character named Kritias tells an account of Atlantis that has been in his family for generations. According the character the story was originally told to his ancestor Solon, by a priest during Solon´s visit to Egypt.

According to the dialogues, there had been a powerful empire located to the west of the "Pillars of Hercules" (what we now call the Straight of Gibraltar) on an island in the Atlantic Ocean. The nation there had been established by Poseidon, the God of the Sea. Poseidon fathered five sets of twins on the island. The firstborn, Atlas, had the continent and the surrounding ocean named for him. Poseidon divided the land into ten sections, each to be ruled by a son, or his heirs.

The capital city of Atlantis was a marvel of architecture and engineering. The city was composed of a series of concentric walls and canals. At the very center was a hill, and on top of the hill a temple to Poseidon. Inside was a gold statue of the God of the Sea showing him driving six winged horses.

About 9000 years before the time of Plato, after the people of Atlantis became corrupt and greedy, the Gods decided to destroy them. A violent earthquake shook the land, giant waves rolled over the shores, and the island sank into the sea never to be seen again.

So is the story of Atlantis just a fable used by Plato to make a point? Or is there some reason to think he was referring to a real place? Well, at numerous points in the dialogues Plato´s characters refer to the story of Atlantis as "genuine history" and it being within "the realm of fact." Plato also seems to put into the story a lot of detail about Atlantis that would be unnecessary if he had intended to use it only as a literary device.

If we make the assumption that Atlantis was a real place it seems logical we should find it west of the Straight of Gibraltar near the Azores Islands (some have suggested that the Azores are what are left of Atlantis´s highest mountain peaks).
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