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~Andariel~ (OP) User ID: 1422577 Canada 06/14/2011 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I continue to advance the theory that the world's food supply is artificially enhanced by technology beyond the capability of same to weather these types of events. Quoting: WaterbugIn other words, more people than food in a crisis. Some say that the world can feed up to 50 billion people. Do you believe it? Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
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Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 06/14/2011 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I continue to advance the theory that the world's food supply is artificially enhanced by technology beyond the capability of same to weather these types of events. Quoting: WaterbugIn other words, more people than food in a crisis. Some say that the world can feed up to 50 billion people. Do you believe it? Not if it is a function of corporate greed. The advances made in seed modification and hybrid promotion are bad science IMHO. They depend on this and artificial enhancement of soil which is not conducive to long-term soil health or natural process. If the local industries were allowed to compete I believe each locality would balance the food needs of it's inhabitants with good agricultural practices ensuring future success without the need for these measures. The surpluses garnered in this way would be a boon to each local area, boosting morale, and supplying locales with better food and a better economy while taking the decision-making out of the hands of corporate entities which are not consumer-friendly. We have gone from an agrarian society to metro in a matter of little more than a hundred years. The fact is, some areas are not meant to be inhabited. These and the over-population in major metropolitan areas are the strain on the system. An interruption in the food-supply chain for any reason will send the whole system into free-fall and many will starve. 3 days until the grocery stores close without continuous supply. It's only a matter of when, in my opinion. |
~Andariel~ (OP) User ID: 1422577 Canada 06/14/2011 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I continue to advance the theory that the world's food supply is artificially enhanced by technology beyond the capability of same to weather these types of events. Quoting: WaterbugIn other words, more people than food in a crisis. Some say that the world can feed up to 50 billion people. Do you believe it? Not if it is a function of corporate greed. The advances made in seed modification and hybrid promotion are bad science IMHO. They depend on this and artificial enhancement of soil which is not conducive to long-term soil health or natural process. If the local industries were allowed to compete I believe each locality would balance the food needs of it's inhabitants with good agricultural practices ensuring future success without the need for these measures. The surpluses garnered in this way would be a boon to each local area, boosting morale, and supplying locales with better food and a better economy while taking the decision-making out of the hands of corporate entities which are not consumer-friendly. We have gone from an agrarian society to metro in a matter of little more than a hundred years. The fact is, some areas are not meant to be inhabited. These and the over-population in major metropolitan areas are the strain on the system. An interruption in the food-supply chain for any reason will send the whole system into free-fall and many will starve. 3 days until the grocery stores close without continuous supply. It's only a matter of when, in my opinion. However it all comes down to water supply. No water = no crops. Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 06/14/2011 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been raining all week.. go figure. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1427995Really? Apparently France has it worst!! maybe they can just take their three months of vacation and just worry about it later... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Resister User ID: 669410 United States 06/14/2011 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Last summer it was massive fires burning grain crops in Russian, now Western Europe. ... not enough water to keep cooling nuclear power plants "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 06/14/2011 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I continue to advance the theory that the world's food supply is artificially enhanced by technology beyond the capability of same to weather these types of events. Quoting: WaterbugIn other words, more people than food in a crisis. Some say that the world can feed up to 50 billion people. Do you believe it? The fact is, some areas are not meant to be inhabited. However it all comes down to water supply. No water = no crops. Yes. |
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~Andariel~ (OP) User ID: 1422577 Canada 06/14/2011 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am fuckin parched ! we've had 4 humid days sigh but us europians are used to rain so were kinda happy,but yeah big drought across france the famers will lose out i plan a gourmande summer ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400141Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 06/14/2011 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the ability to go to the grocery store and get your food is taken for granted by most. In the event of a disaster such as Katrina, anarchy is almost instant. The same could be said for any large city. These people are in the dark for the most part, as far as knowing what could happen or what they would do. The government is not able or willing to address this scenario and a large segment of the population will suffer. I don't know what would happen in Europe and elsewhere. I suspect the same types of things. |
~Andariel~ (OP) User ID: 1422577 Canada 06/14/2011 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the ability to go to the grocery store and get your food is taken for granted by most. In the event of a disaster such as Katrina, anarchy is almost instant. Quoting: WaterbugThe same could be said for any large city. These people are in the dark for the most part, as far as knowing what could happen or what they would do. The government is not able or willing to address this scenario and a large segment of the population will suffer. I don't know what would happen in Europe and elsewhere. I suspect the same types of things. The world as we know it today is absolutely dependent on daily food delivery. If the chain of our food supply breaks, chaos and anarchy will be rampant. I would say that 20% of people would die within the first month alone!! Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 06/14/2011 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the ability to go to the grocery store and get your food is taken for granted by most. In the event of a disaster such as Katrina, anarchy is almost instant. Quoting: WaterbugThe same could be said for any large city. These people are in the dark for the most part, as far as knowing what could happen or what they would do. The government is not able or willing to address this scenario and a large segment of the population will suffer. I don't know what would happen in Europe and elsewhere. I suspect the same types of things. The world as we know it today is absolutely dependent on daily food delivery. If the chain of our food supply breaks, chaos and anarchy will be rampant. I would say that 20% of people would die within the first month alone!! My advice to anyone in these uncertain times would be to get out of the city if possible and become reasonably self-sufficient. |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 06/14/2011 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone know a specific date? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1418110For? Isn't everyday a specific date? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
~Andariel~ (OP) User ID: 1422577 Canada 06/14/2011 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the ability to go to the grocery store and get your food is taken for granted by most. In the event of a disaster such as Katrina, anarchy is almost instant. Quoting: WaterbugThe same could be said for any large city. These people are in the dark for the most part, as far as knowing what could happen or what they would do. The government is not able or willing to address this scenario and a large segment of the population will suffer. I don't know what would happen in Europe and elsewhere. I suspect the same types of things. The world as we know it today is absolutely dependent on daily food delivery. If the chain of our food supply breaks, chaos and anarchy will be rampant. I would say that 20% of people would die within the first month alone!! My advice to anyone in these uncertain times would be to get out of the city if possible and become reasonably self-sufficient. That, my friend is not possible anymore for the vast majority of people. Dependency and complete lack of real world skills, aka. agriculture and tools manufacturing, make most people vulnerable to the situation we have been discussing. Furthermore, most cultivable land is already taken and also remember that some areas are season dependent, like here in Canada. We only have roughly 8 months out of the year to be able to produce what we need, the other 4 months everything is frozen solid. Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
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~Andariel~ (OP) User ID: 1422577 Canada 06/14/2011 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1395541I live in an agricultural area, loads of crops, turning nicely, all looks ok. Already had rapeseed (yellow peril). Andariel,why have you got a chip basket on your head? Hahaha. Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1372955 United States 06/14/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I continue to advance the theory that the world's food supply is artificially enhanced by technology beyond the capability of same to weather these types of events. Quoting: WaterbugIn other words, more people than food in a crisis. Some say that the world can feed up to 50 billion people. Do you believe it? provide empirical data please most of the "Peak Food" reports showed we passed the feeding capacity of this planet over 25 years, and closer to 30 years ago. The numbers of starving people since then back that summation up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1372955 United States 06/14/2011 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I continue to advance the theory that the world's food supply is artificially enhanced by technology beyond the capability of same to weather these types of events. Quoting: WaterbugIn other words, more people than food in a crisis. Some say that the world can feed up to 50 billion people. Do you believe it? provide empirical data please most of the "Peak Food" reports showed we passed the feeding capacity of this planet over 25 years, and closer to 30 years ago. The numbers of starving people since then back that summation up. Clarification, by sustainable and as close to organic means. Technologies concerning mass hydroponics (which i designed a basic one...in 1985) can increase that...but not to 50B people...there isn't enough potable water...not even close. |